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Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:49 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Hester Reik" drhester_06107
Hello Gurus,
Sorry in advance for the length of this email. I have a 2009 MBP, 4 G Ram,
2.26, Snow Leopard...and I remember nothing else (and it's not here for me
to look at specs). I bought it March/April 2010
Yesterday morning it had a melt down. Within the span of 2 minutes it went
from not loading some webpages, to reloading (after a shut down) to an
incomplete desktop (icons on right top were gone) to being unresponsive to
PRAM reset, to finally never getting to the desktop.
The laptop was 3-4 months out of warranty. Before sending it off to CA or
OWC (I called them) I took it to the genius bar.
It is likely a bad drive, possibly a software issue. They called me last
night that they had done an archive re-install but it was still horribly
slow.
Every week I back up using Shirt pocket and Time Machine. In fact, I had
backed up the morning before the meltdown.
If my hard drive has to be replaced, should I restore from Time Machine or
Shirt pocket, and can anyone walk me through the steps I need to do that?
Please? I know the Genius @ Apple thinks I can do it from TM, but I recall
reading on list that TM does not back up all applications. Or perhaps I am
recalling that you cannot boot from TM back ups.
Thank you in advance for the help.
Sorry this is so long. ANd where is Harry Flaxman??
hester
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Sorry in advance for the length of this email. I have a 2009 MBP, 4 G Ram,
2.26, Snow Leopard...and I remember nothing else (and it's not here for me
to look at specs). I bought it March/April 2010
Yesterday morning it had a melt down. Within the span of 2 minutes it went
from not loading some webpages, to reloading (after a shut down) to an
incomplete desktop (icons on right top were gone) to being unresponsive to
PRAM reset, to finally never getting to the desktop.
The laptop was 3-4 months out of warranty. Before sending it off to CA or
OWC (I called them) I took it to the genius bar.
It is likely a bad drive, possibly a software issue. They called me last
night that they had done an archive re-install but it was still horribly
slow.
Every week I back up using Shirt pocket and Time Machine. In fact, I had
backed up the morning before the meltdown.
If my hard drive has to be replaced, should I restore from Time Machine or
Shirt pocket, and can anyone walk me through the steps I need to do that?
Please? I know the Genius @ Apple thinks I can do it from TM, but I recall
reading on list that TM does not back up all applications. Or perhaps I am
recalling that you cannot boot from TM back ups.
Thank you in advance for the help.
Sorry this is so long. ANd where is Harry Flaxman??
hester
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Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:38 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
Assuming that your SuperDuper backup is a full bootable clone, I'd do the
following:-
1. Install the new drive in the Mac;
2. Connect the external containing the clone using USB or FW;
3. Hold down the option key while booting the Mac;
4. Choose the external clone and allow startup to complete;
5. The Mac should now be running from the clone;
6. Log in and ensure things look OK;
7. Format (Erase) the new internal drive as Mac OS Extended (Journaled);
7. Using SuperDuper, clone the external (which you are running from) to the
new internal drive;
8. From System Preferences > Startup Disk, choose the internal drive and
restart;
9. Log in, check that you are running from the internal drive, and that
everything is OK;
10. Restore any additional files using TM. I doubt there'd be many of these.
Otto
On 15 August 2013 12:49, Hester Reik <dhreik@gmail.com > wrote:
> Hello Gurus,
>
> Sorry in advance for the length of this email. I have a 2009 MBP, 4 G Ram,
> 2.26, Snow Leopard...and I remember nothing else (and it's not here for me
> to look at specs). I bought it March/April 2010
>
> Yesterday morning it had a melt down. Within the span of 2 minutes it went
> from not loading some webpages, to reloading (after a shut down) to an
> incomplete desktop (icons on right top were gone) to being unresponsive to
> PRAM reset, to finally never getting to the desktop.
>
> The laptop was 3-4 months out of warranty. Before sending it off to CA or
> OWC (I called them) I took it to the genius bar.
>
> It is likely a bad drive, possibly a software issue. They called me last
> night that they had done an archive re-install but it was still horribly
> slow.
>
> Every week I back up using Shirt pocket and Time Machine. In fact, I had
> backed up the morning before the meltdown.
>
> If my hard drive has to be replaced, should I restore from Time Machine or
> Shirt pocket, and can anyone walk me through the steps I need to do that?
> Please? I know the Genius @ Apple thinks I can do it from TM, but I recall
> reading on list that TM does not back up all applications. Or perhaps I am
> recalling that you cannot boot from TM back ups.
>
> Thank you in advance for the help.
>
> Sorry this is so long. ANd where is Harry Flaxman??
>
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following:-
1. Install the new drive in the Mac;
2. Connect the external containing the clone using USB or FW;
3. Hold down the option key while booting the Mac;
4. Choose the external clone and allow startup to complete;
5. The Mac should now be running from the clone;
6. Log in and ensure things look OK;
7. Format (Erase) the new internal drive as Mac OS Extended (Journaled);
7. Using SuperDuper, clone the external (which you are running from) to the
new internal drive;
8. From System Preferences > Startup Disk, choose the internal drive and
restart;
9. Log in, check that you are running from the internal drive, and that
everything is OK;
10. Restore any additional files using TM. I doubt there'd be many of these.
Otto
On 15 August 2013 12:49, Hester Reik <dhreik@gmail.
> Hello Gurus,
>
> Sorry in advance for the length of this email. I have a 2009 MBP, 4 G Ram,
> 2.26, Snow Leopard...and I remember nothing else (and it's not here for me
> to look at specs). I bought it March/April 2010
>
> Yesterday morning it had a melt down. Within the span of 2 minutes it went
> from not loading some webpages, to reloading (after a shut down) to an
> incomplete desktop (icons on right top were gone) to being unresponsive to
> PRAM reset, to finally never getting to the desktop.
>
> The laptop was 3-4 months out of warranty. Before sending it off to CA or
> OWC (I called them) I took it to the genius bar.
>
> It is likely a bad drive, possibly a software issue. They called me last
> night that they had done an archive re-install but it was still horribly
> slow.
>
> Every week I back up using Shirt pocket and Time Machine. In fact, I had
> backed up the morning before the meltdown.
>
> If my hard drive has to be replaced, should I restore from Time Machine or
> Shirt pocket, and can anyone walk me through the steps I need to do that?
> Please? I know the Genius @ Apple thinks I can do it from TM, but I recall
> reading on list that TM does not back up all applications. Or perhaps I am
> recalling that you cannot boot from TM back ups.
>
> Thank you in advance for the help.
>
> Sorry this is so long. ANd where is Harry Flaxman??
>
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Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:14 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
A questions for knowledgeable gurus.
As you know, the Lion and Mountain Lion Recovery "partition" does not
show up in Disk Utility with some kind of Disk Identifier number.
We call it an invisible partition.
Is it possible that the Recovery partition is really a form of
compressed Disk Image File sitting somewhere on the Lion/ML boot drive
but not in a true separate partition and that when one boots into
Recovery partition this Disk Image File is opened and is then assigned
a temporary Disk Identifier number??
Denver Dan
A questions for knowledgeable gurus.
As you know, the Lion and Mountain Lion Recovery "partition&quo
show up in Disk Utility with some kind of Disk Identifier number.
We call it an invisible partition.
Is it possible that the Recovery partition is really a form of
compressed Disk Image File sitting somewhere on the Lion/ML boot drive
but not in a true separate partition and that when one boots into
Recovery partition this Disk Image File is opened and is then assigned
a temporary Disk Identifier number??
Denver Dan
Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:12 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Barry Austern" barryaus
On Aug 15, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Denver Dan wrote:
> Howdy.
>
> A questions for knowledgeable gurus.
>
> As you know, the Lion and Mountain Lion Recovery "partition&quo
> show up in Disk Utility with some kind of Disk Identifier number.
>
> We call it an invisible partition.
>
> Is it possible that the Recovery partition is really a form of
> compressed Disk Image File sitting somewhere on the Lion/ML boot drive
> but not in a true separate partition and that when one boots into
> Recovery partition this Disk Image File is opened and is then assigned
> a temporary Disk Identifier number??
>
Bill Fuller, toward the end of June, on the Mac-L list showed how to put a debug menu into Disk Utility. This will allow invisible partitions to show. Quoting from his message:
Quit Disk Utility if it is open. In the Terminal type:
defaults write com.apple.DiskUtili
Next time you open DU the menu should be there. As with any hidden feature, be careful what you do with it, but showing all partitions is really helpful to avoid confusion.
>
>
>
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.
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Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:24 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
> The Lion and Mountain Lion Recovery "partition" does not show up in Disk Utility with some kind of Disk Identifier number.
>
> We call it an invisible partition.
>
> Is it possible that the Recovery partition is really a form of compressed Disk Image File sitting somewhere on the Lion/ML boot drive but not in a true separate partition and that when one boots into Recovery partition this Disk Image File is opened and is then assigned a temporary Disk Identifier number?
iPartition sees the Recovery partition *as* a partition.
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com
>
> We call it an invisible partition.
>
> Is it possible that the Recovery partition is really a form of compressed Disk Image File sitting somewhere on the Lion/ML boot drive but not in a true separate partition and that when one boots into Recovery partition this Disk Image File is opened and is then assigned a temporary Disk Identifier number?
iPartition sees the Recovery partition *as* a partition.
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.
Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:29 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
Thanks for the info.
Very interesting.
Yes, the Terminal command works and I now have a Debug menu in Disk
Utility.
One of the many commands under Debug is "Show Every Partition."
Just did that. Took about 4 to 6 seconds and then an extra partition
showed up for every HD.
For the boot HD, two new partitions appeared and one is the Recovery HD
partition.
For several HDs (it's a MacPro with 4 internal HDs) two partitions
showed up including a partition for the external HDs I backup to using
SilverKeeper backup utility.
Very interesting, Watson, as Sherlock taps out his pipe and takes off
his deerstalker.
I assume that the SilverKeeper backup program makes an invisible
partition that tracks what has been backed up.
Each HD has a partition named, as an example, disk3s1. The info about
this partition calls it an EFI Partition Type. Meaning Extensible
Firmware Interface.
Well. I'm learning stuff but would still like to figure out if the
Recovery partition is really a Disk Image File that when booted into
acts like a partition.
Denver Dan
p.s. headed to Colorado tomorrow for a ten day vacation and a little
work. Back on August 26 and won't be looking at too many
MacSupportCentral posts while gone.
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 15:11:58 -0400, Barry Austern wrote:
>
> On Aug 15, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Denver Dan wrote:
>
>> Howdy.
>>
>> A questions for knowledgeable gurus.
>>
>> As you know, the Lion and Mountain Lion Recovery "partition" does not
>> show up in Disk Utility with some kind of Disk Identifier number.
>>
>> We call it an invisible partition.
>>
>> Is it possible that the Recovery partition is really a form of
>> compressed Disk Image File sitting somewhere on the Lion/ML boot drive
>> but not in a true separate partition and that when one boots into
>> Recovery partition this Disk Image File is opened and is then assigned
>> a temporary Disk Identifier number??
>>
> Bill Fuller, toward the end of June, on the Mac-L list showed how to
> put a debug menu into Disk Utility. This will allow invisible
> partitions to show. Quoting from his message:
> Quit Disk Utility if it is open. In the Terminal type:
>
> defaults write com.apple.DiskUtility DUDebugMenuEnabled 1 (and hit
> return, of course)
>
> Next time you open DU the menu should be there. As with any hidden
> feature, be careful what you do with it, but showing all partitions
> is really helpful to avoid confusion.
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Barry Austern
Thanks for the info.
Very interesting.
Yes, the Terminal command works and I now have a Debug menu in Disk
Utility.
One of the many commands under Debug is "Show Every Partition."
Just did that. Took about 4 to 6 seconds and then an extra partition
showed up for every HD.
For the boot HD, two new partitions appeared and one is the Recovery HD
partition.
For several HDs (it's a MacPro with 4 internal HDs) two partitions
showed up including a partition for the external HDs I backup to using
SilverKeeper backup utility.
Very interesting, Watson, as Sherlock taps out his pipe and takes off
his deerstalker.
I assume that the SilverKeeper backup program makes an invisible
partition that tracks what has been backed up.
Each HD has a partition named, as an example, disk3s1. The info about
this partition calls it an EFI Partition Type. Meaning Extensible
Firmware Interface.
Well. I'm learning stuff but would still like to figure out if the
Recovery partition is really a Disk Image File that when booted into
acts like a partition.
Denver Dan
p.s. headed to Colorado tomorrow for a ten day vacation and a little
work. Back on August 26 and won't be looking at too many
MacSupportCentral posts while gone.
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 15:11:58 -0400, Barry Austern wrote:
>
> On Aug 15, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Denver Dan wrote:
>
>> Howdy.
>>
>> A questions for knowledgeable gurus.
>>
>> As you know, the Lion and Mountain Lion Recovery "partition&quo
>> show up in Disk Utility with some kind of Disk Identifier number.
>>
>> We call it an invisible partition.
>>
>> Is it possible that the Recovery partition is really a form of
>> compressed Disk Image File sitting somewhere on the Lion/ML boot drive
>> but not in a true separate partition and that when one boots into
>> Recovery partition this Disk Image File is opened and is then assigned
>> a temporary Disk Identifier number??
>>
> Bill Fuller, toward the end of June, on the Mac-L list showed how to
> put a debug menu into Disk Utility. This will allow invisible
> partitions to show. Quoting from his message:
> Quit Disk Utility if it is open. In the Terminal type:
>
> defaults write com.apple.DiskUtili
> return, of course)
>
> Next time you open DU the menu should be there. As with any hidden
> feature, be careful what you do with it, but showing all partitions
> is really helpful to avoid confusion.
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Barry Austern
Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:31 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
Jim, see the response I just finished sending to Barry and his Debug
menu for Disk Utility command.
Ciao ragazzi!
Denver Dan
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 17:24:43 -0400, Jim Saklad wrote:
>> The Lion and Mountain Lion Recovery "partition" does not show up in
>> Disk Utility with some kind of Disk Identifier number.
>>
>> We call it an invisible partition.
>>
>> Is it possible that the Recovery partition is really a form of
>> compressed Disk Image File sitting somewhere on the Lion/ML boot
>> drive but not in a true separate partition and that when one boots
>> into Recovery partition this Disk Image File is opened and is then
>> assigned a temporary Disk Identifier number?
>
> iPartition sees the Recovery partition *as* a partition.
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim
Jim, see the response I just finished sending to Barry and his Debug
menu for Disk Utility command.
Ciao ragazzi!
Denver Dan
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 17:24:43 -0400, Jim Saklad wrote:
>> The Lion and Mountain Lion Recovery "partition&quo
>> Disk Utility with some kind of Disk Identifier number.
>>
>> We call it an invisible partition.
>>
>> Is it possible that the Recovery partition is really a form of
>> compressed Disk Image File sitting somewhere on the Lion/ML boot
>> drive but not in a true separate partition and that when one boots
>> into Recovery partition this Disk Image File is opened and is then
>> assigned a temporary Disk Identifier number?
>
> iPartition sees the Recovery partition *as* a partition.
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim
Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:41 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
Ask WikiPedia and ye shall be informed.
About the EFI Partition
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EFI_System_partition >
On Macintosh/Intel, the EFI partition (usually about 290 MB in size) is
empty. It is used for firmware updates when a piece of software is
installed in this partition that helps the computer boot after the
firmware update is finished running.
Apparently on a Windows computer it has a different use but somewhat
similar.
Denver Dan
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 17:29:44 -0400, Denver Dan wrote:
> Howdy.
>
> Thanks for the info.
>
> Very interesting.
>
> Yes, the Terminal command works and I now have a Debug menu in Disk
> Utility.
>
> One of the many commands under Debug is "Show Every Partition."
>
> Just did that. Took about 4 to 6 seconds and then an extra partition
> showed up for every HD.
>
> For the boot HD, two new partitions appeared and one is the Recovery HD
> partition.
>
> For several HDs (it's a MacPro with 4 internal HDs) two partitions
> showed up including a partition for the external HDs I backup to using
> SilverKeeper backup utility.
>
> Very interesting, Watson, as Sherlock taps out his pipe and takes off
> his deerstalker.
>
> I assume that the SilverKeeper backup program makes an invisible
> partition that tracks what has been backed up.
>
> Each HD has a partition named, as an example, disk3s1. The info about
> this partition calls it an EFI Partition Type. Meaning Extensible
> Firmware Interface.
>
> Well. I'm learning stuff but would still like to figure out if the
> Recovery partition is really a Disk Image File that when booted into
> acts like a partition.
>
> Denver Dan
>
> p.s. headed to Colorado tomorrow for a ten day vacation and a little
> work. Back on August 26 and won't be looking at too many
> MacSupportCentral posts while gone.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 15:11:58 -0400, Barry Austern wrote:
>>
>> On Aug 15, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Denver Dan wrote:
>>
>>> Howdy.
>>>
>>> A questions for knowledgeable gurus.
>>>
>>> As you know, the Lion and Mountain Lion Recovery "partition" does not
>>> show up in Disk Utility with some kind of Disk Identifier number.
>>>
>>> We call it an invisible partition.
>>>
>>> Is it possible that the Recovery partition is really a form of
>>> compressed Disk Image File sitting somewhere on the Lion/ML boot drive
>>> but not in a true separate partition and that when one boots into
>>> Recovery partition this Disk Image File is opened and is then assigned
>>> a temporary Disk Identifier number??
>>>
>> Bill Fuller, toward the end of June, on the Mac-L list showed how to
>> put a debug menu into Disk Utility. This will allow invisible
>> partitions to show. Quoting from his message:
>> Quit Disk Utility if it is open. In the Terminal type:
>>
>> defaults write com.apple.DiskUtility DUDebugMenuEnabled 1 (and hit
>> return, of course)
>>
>> Next time you open DU the menu should be there. As with any hidden
>> feature, be careful what you do with it, but showing all partitions
>> is really helpful to avoid confusion.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Barry Austern
>
Ask WikiPedia and ye shall be informed.
About the EFI Partition
<http://en.wikipedia
On Macintosh/Intel, the EFI partition (usually about 290 MB in size) is
empty. It is used for firmware updates when a piece of software is
installed in this partition that helps the computer boot after the
firmware update is finished running.
Apparently on a Windows computer it has a different use but somewhat
similar.
Denver Dan
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 17:29:44 -0400, Denver Dan wrote:
> Howdy.
>
> Thanks for the info.
>
> Very interesting.
>
> Yes, the Terminal command works and I now have a Debug menu in Disk
> Utility.
>
> One of the many commands under Debug is "Show Every Partition."
>
> Just did that. Took about 4 to 6 seconds and then an extra partition
> showed up for every HD.
>
> For the boot HD, two new partitions appeared and one is the Recovery HD
> partition.
>
> For several HDs (it's a MacPro with 4 internal HDs) two partitions
> showed up including a partition for the external HDs I backup to using
> SilverKeeper backup utility.
>
> Very interesting, Watson, as Sherlock taps out his pipe and takes off
> his deerstalker.
>
> I assume that the SilverKeeper backup program makes an invisible
> partition that tracks what has been backed up.
>
> Each HD has a partition named, as an example, disk3s1. The info about
> this partition calls it an EFI Partition Type. Meaning Extensible
> Firmware Interface.
>
> Well. I'm learning stuff but would still like to figure out if the
> Recovery partition is really a Disk Image File that when booted into
> acts like a partition.
>
> Denver Dan
>
> p.s. headed to Colorado tomorrow for a ten day vacation and a little
> work. Back on August 26 and won't be looking at too many
> MacSupportCentral posts while gone.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 15:11:58 -0400, Barry Austern wrote:
>>
>> On Aug 15, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Denver Dan wrote:
>>
>>> Howdy.
>>>
>>> A questions for knowledgeable gurus.
>>>
>>> As you know, the Lion and Mountain Lion Recovery "partition&quo
>>> show up in Disk Utility with some kind of Disk Identifier number.
>>>
>>> We call it an invisible partition.
>>>
>>> Is it possible that the Recovery partition is really a form of
>>> compressed Disk Image File sitting somewhere on the Lion/ML boot drive
>>> but not in a true separate partition and that when one boots into
>>> Recovery partition this Disk Image File is opened and is then assigned
>>> a temporary Disk Identifier number??
>>>
>> Bill Fuller, toward the end of June, on the Mac-L list showed how to
>> put a debug menu into Disk Utility. This will allow invisible
>> partitions to show. Quoting from his message:
>> Quit Disk Utility if it is open. In the Terminal type:
>>
>> defaults write com.apple.DiskUtili
>> return, of course)
>>
>> Next time you open DU the menu should be there. As with any hidden
>> feature, be careful what you do with it, but showing all partitions
>> is really helpful to avoid confusion.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Barry Austern
>
Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:45 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
> p.s.
> headed to Colorado tomorrow for a ten day vacation and a little work. Back on August 26 and won't be looking at too many MacSupportCentral posts while gone.
Say hello to Denver, Dan....
But don't Settle in there.
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com
> headed to Colorado tomorrow for a ten day vacation and a little work. Back on August 26 and won't be looking at too many MacSupportCentral posts while gone.
Say hello to Denver, Dan....
But don't Settle in there.
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.
Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:49 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
It is a partition/volume. You can see this in Terminal by using the command
diskutil list
Mine looks like this
----
MacBook-Pro:~ ottonikolaus$ diskutil list
/dev/disk0
#: TYPE NAME SIZE
IDENTIFIER
0: GUID_partition_scheme *500.1 GB disk0
1: EFI 209.7 MB disk0s1
2: Apple_HFS Macintosh HD 499.2 GB disk0s2
3: Apple_Boot Recovery HD 650.0 MB disk0s3
----
Otto
On 15 August 2013 19:14, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net > wrote:
> Howdy.
>
> A questions for knowledgeable gurus.
>
> As you know, the Lion and Mountain Lion Recovery "partition" does not
> show up in Disk Utility with some kind of Disk Identifier number.
>
> We call it an invisible partition.
>
> Is it possible that the Recovery partition is really a form of
> compressed Disk Image File sitting somewhere on the Lion/ML boot drive
> but not in a true separate partition and that when one boots into
> Recovery partition this Disk Image File is opened and is then assigned
> a temporary Disk Identifier number??
>
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diskutil list
Mine looks like this
----
MacBook-Pro:
/dev/disk0
#: TYPE NAME SIZE
IDENTIFIER
0: GUID_partition_
1: EFI 209.7 MB disk0s1
2: Apple_HFS Macintosh HD 499.2 GB disk0s2
3: Apple_Boot Recovery HD 650.0 MB disk0s3
----
Otto
On 15 August 2013 19:14, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.
> Howdy.
>
> A questions for knowledgeable gurus.
>
> As you know, the Lion and Mountain Lion Recovery "partition&quo
> show up in Disk Utility with some kind of Disk Identifier number.
>
> We call it an invisible partition.
>
> Is it possible that the Recovery partition is really a form of
> compressed Disk Image File sitting somewhere on the Lion/ML boot drive
> but not in a true separate partition and that when one boots into
> Recovery partition this Disk Image File is opened and is then assigned
> a temporary Disk Identifier number??
>
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Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:52 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Thanks Jim. Wish I could re-settle there. I like Denver! Wow! You
should see the new passenger rail terminal at Denver International
Airport. Like Buck Rogers meets Star Trek.
Denver Dan
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 17:45:09 -0400, Jim Saklad wrote:
>> p.s.
>> headed to Colorado tomorrow for a ten day vacation and a little
>> work. Back on August 26 and won't be looking at too many
>> MacSupportCentral posts while gone.
>
> Say hello to Denver, Dan....
> But don't Settle in there.
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Saklad
should see the new passenger rail terminal at Denver International
Airport. Like Buck Rogers meets Star Trek.
Denver Dan
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 17:45:09 -0400, Jim Saklad wrote:
>> p.s.
>> headed to Colorado tomorrow for a ten day vacation and a little
>> work. Back on August 26 and won't be looking at too many
>> MacSupportCentral posts while gone.
>
> Say hello to Denver, Dan....
> But don't Settle in there.
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Saklad
Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:54 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
Yes but . . . .
If your HD is 500 GB and if the Apple HFS partition is 499.2 GB the
650.0 MB Recovery partition couldn't exist in that amount of space so
perhaps it isn't really a partition until you boot into it?
Denver Dan
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 22:49:22 +0100, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
> It is a partition/volume. You can see this in Terminal by using the command
> diskutil list
> Mine looks like this
> ----
> MacBook-Pro:~ ottonikolaus$ diskutil list
> /dev/disk0
> #: TYPE NAME SIZE
> IDENTIFIER
> 0: GUID_partition_scheme *500.1 GB disk0
> 1: EFI 209.7 MB disk0s1
> 2: Apple_HFS Macintosh HD 499.2 GB disk0s2
> 3: Apple_Boot Recovery HD 650.0 MB disk0s3
> ----
> Otto
Yes but . . . .
If your HD is 500 GB and if the Apple HFS partition is 499.2 GB the
650.0 MB Recovery partition couldn't exist in that amount of space so
perhaps it isn't really a partition until you boot into it?
Denver Dan
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 22:49:22 +0100, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
> It is a partition/volume. You can see this in Terminal by using the command
> diskutil list
> Mine looks like this
> ----
> MacBook-Pro:
> /dev/disk0
> #: TYPE NAME SIZE
> IDENTIFIER
> 0: GUID_partition_
> 1: EFI 209.7 MB disk0s1
> 2: Apple_HFS Macintosh HD 499.2 GB disk0s2
> 3: Apple_Boot Recovery HD 650.0 MB disk0s3
> ----
> Otto
Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:22 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
This is a pretty good article on the new Apple campus in Cupertino.
Rumors are flying that ground is being broken now and that part of is
is an older Hewlett-Packard building.
Apple Insider Article
<http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/08/15/structures-getting-demolished-as-apple-campus-2-guts-the-remains-of-hp >
The article has several maps and graphics and an architectural drawing
of the new doughnut/spaceship structure.
Denver Dan
This is a pretty good article on the new Apple campus in Cupertino.
Rumors are flying that ground is being broken now and that part of is
is an older Hewlett-Packard building.
Apple Insider Article
<http://appleinsider
The article has several maps and graphics and an architectural drawing
of the new doughnut/spaceship structure.
Denver Dan
Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:33 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"missladybee" missladybee
I have had this update problem with every app I have tried to update for the past few weeks. I click "Upload All", think they will upload automatically like they used to, but they don't.
What I've done is first mark "Update All" in the App Store app then individually go to each app that should be updating and click once on the app for "waiting" or "paused" then a second time for ""loading". Then keep checking back.
I don't know what is causing this problem, but I hope they get it fixed soon. Its kind of a nuisance.
Barbara
iPhone 4S
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , "LouisD" <lou@...> wrote:
>
> I bought the Pages app for my ipad and it downloaded fine. My iPhone, on the same account, is trying to download Pages too, but it has been stuck for hours. The icon says "waiting" and the progress bar is at zero. I powered off the phone and started it back up, but it is still stuck on waiting.
>
> This is thenfirstmtime I've had this problem. Earlier today, I successfully downloaded the Numbers app and it downloaded fine to both devices.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lou
>
What I've done is first mark "Update All" in the App Store app then individually go to each app that should be updating and click once on the app for "waiting" or "paused" then a second time for ""
I don't know what is causing this problem, but I hope they get it fixed soon. Its kind of a nuisance.
Barbara
iPhone 4S
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> I bought the Pages app for my ipad and it downloaded fine. My iPhone, on the same account, is trying to download Pages too, but it has been stuck for hours. The icon says "waiting" and the progress bar is at zero. I powered off the phone and started it back up, but it is still stuck on waiting.
>
> This is thenfirstmtime I've had this problem. Earlier today, I successfully downloaded the Numbers app and it downloaded fine to both devices.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lou
>
Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:15 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Pat Taylor" pat412255
Have you rebooted your phone by holding down the On/Off & Home buttons until the Apple logo appears on the screen since this situation began? That might help & can't hurt anything. App updates on all of my devices are installing normally.
On Aug 15, 2013, at 12:33 PM, missladybee <beadedimages@earthlink.net > wrote:
> I have had this update problem with every app I have tried to update for the past few weeks. I click "Upload All", think they will upload automatically like they used to, but they don't.
>
> What I've done is first mark "Update All" in the App Store app then individually go to each app that should be updating and click once on the app for "waiting" or "paused" then a second time for ""loading". Then keep checking back.
>
> I don't know what is causing this problem, but I hope they get it fixed soon. Its kind of a nuisance.
>
> Barbara
> iPhone 4S
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , "LouisD" <lou@...> wrote:
> >
> > I bought the Pages app for my ipad and it downloaded fine. My iPhone, on the same account, is trying to download Pages too, but it has been stuck for hours. The icon says "waiting" and the progress bar is at zero. I powered off the phone and started it back up, but it is still stuck on waiting.
> >
> > This is thenfirstmtime I've had this problem. Earlier today, I successfully downloaded the Numbers app and it downloaded fine to both devices.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Lou
> >
>
>
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On Aug 15, 2013, at 12:33 PM, missladybee <beadedimages@
> I have had this update problem with every app I have tried to update for the past few weeks. I click "Upload All", think they will upload automatically like they used to, but they don't.
>
> What I've done is first mark "Update All" in the App Store app then individually go to each app that should be updating and click once on the app for "waiting" or "paused" then a second time for ""
>
> I don't know what is causing this problem, but I hope they get it fixed soon. Its kind of a nuisance.
>
> Barbara
> iPhone 4S
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@
> >
> > I bought the Pages app for my ipad and it downloaded fine. My iPhone, on the same account, is trying to download Pages too, but it has been stuck for hours. The icon says "waiting" and the progress bar is at zero. I powered off the phone and started it back up, but it is still stuck on waiting.
> >
> > This is thenfirstmtime I've had this problem. Earlier today, I successfully downloaded the Numbers app and it downloaded fine to both devices.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Lou
> >
>
>
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