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Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:44 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"cnltnn" cnltnn
The one thing a really miss about my ancient Palm PDA is being able to write without a keyboard and it save as text. I can live without it, but I miss it.
I noticed there are some apps that do just that, but they were not free. Before I spend money, does anyone have an app for handwriting recognition that they like or dislike?
Thanks,
Carrie
I noticed there are some apps that do just that, but they were not free. Before I spend money, does anyone have an app for handwriting recognition that they like or dislike?
Thanks,
Carrie
Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:22 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
You did not tell us what device you want to use this on.
Apple has or had an app called Inkwell that would do handwriting recognition to some extent for the Mac. You can find reference to it at Apple for those with special needs, in a document dated 2011.
On Aug 13, 2013, at 5:44 AM, cnltnn wrote:
The one thing a really miss about my ancient Palm PDA is being able to write without a keyboard and it save as text. I can live without it, but I miss it.
I noticed there are some apps that do just that, but they were not free. Before I spend money, does anyone have an app for handwriting recognition that they like or dislike?
Thanks,
Carrie
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Apple has or had an app called Inkwell that would do handwriting recognition to some extent for the Mac. You can find reference to it at Apple for those with special needs, in a document dated 2011.
On Aug 13, 2013, at 5:44 AM, cnltnn wrote:
The one thing a really miss about my ancient Palm PDA is being able to write without a keyboard and it save as text. I can live without it, but I miss it.
I noticed there are some apps that do just that, but they were not free. Before I spend money, does anyone have an app for handwriting recognition that they like or dislike?
Thanks,
Carrie
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:10 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"James Robertson" jamesrob328i
On Aug 13, 2013, at 4:13 AM, Bob Cook <cookrd1@discoveryow
> JS exploits are more of a problem on Windows, and email is used quite a bit
> as the attack vector - a vulnerable computer only has to open an email, and
> some email programs don't let you delete an email unless you open it first.
> Such as the default mail program on my Windows tablet.
May I ask how one defines "opening" an email in Mac Mail.app?
Sometimes my ISP categorizes mail as "possible spam" and puts it in a "Graymail"
Sometimes Mac Mail catches similar messages and puts them in a "Junk" folder.
Sometimes Mac Mail categorizes similar messages as "Junk"
I have no idea how Mac Mail or my ISP makes those decisions, but in each case it's difficult to delete obvious spam, much of it somehow containing malware payloads without "seeing" the text in the message body.
In the default screen setup for Mail.app (current version), the extreme left pane is a list of folders; to the right is a list of mail messages in the folder highlighted at the left, with a snippet of the body text displayed. To the right of that is a pane where the messages themselves are displayed, with threaded messages in a scrolling fashion, each message looking like a floating piece of paper.
However, if I CLICK on one of the messages in the middle pane, the thread opens into a separate Mac OS window.
So far as I can tell, there's no way for me to discard a single message from the list in the middle pane without also seeing its contents (other than embedded links unless I click them) in the "reading pane" on the right. Does creating a Mac OS window by double-clicking a message potentially create more risk for me? (I know the mantra: "there are no Mac viruses, and virtually all of the malware delivered by email targets Windows OS computers," but I'm not certain what's different about seeing a message'
(I'll ask another question of the list regarding the actual structure/contents of those messages, for my own edification)
--
Jim Robertson
__o
_-\<,
(*)/ (*)
````````````
My other car is an S-Works Roubaix
Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:20 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Bob Cook" cookrd1
I don't use the Mac mail app. But, I didn't make myself clear on my last
post. If you keep your Mac up to date, you don't have to worry about
exploits EXCEPT installing questionable apps you didn't get from the Apple
app store AND being careful of privacy attacks such as phishing that are
easily avoided with proper use of a good password nanager.
This is the main reason I use a Mac. Virtually no malware worries. You
can't even say that for Linux these days.
Bob
On Aug 13, 2013 9:11 AM, "James Robertson" <jamesrob@sonic.net > wrote:
> **
>
>
>
> On Aug 13, 2013, at 4:13 AM, Bob Cook <cookrd1@discoveryowners.com > wrote:
>
> > JS exploits are more of a problem on Windows, and email is used quite a
> bit
> > as the attack vector - a vulnerable computer only has to open an email,
> and
> > some email programs don't let you delete an email unless you open it
> first.
> > Such as the default mail program on my Windows tablet.
>
> May I ask how one defines "opening" an email in Mac Mail.app?
>
> Sometimes my ISP categorizes mail as "possible spam" and puts it in a
> "Graymail"; folder.
>
> Sometimes Mac Mail catches similar messages and puts them in a "Junk"
> folder.
>
> Sometimes Mac Mail categorizes similar messages as "Junk", but they're
> still routed to my In Basket.
>
> I have no idea how Mac Mail or my ISP makes those decisions, but in each
> case it's difficult to delete obvious spam, much of it somehow containing
> malware payloads without "seeing" the text in the message body.
>
> In the default screen setup for Mail.app (current version), the extreme
> left pane is a list of folders; to the right is a list of mail messages in
> the folder highlighted at the left, with a snippet of the body text
> displayed. To the right of that is a pane where the messages themselves are
> displayed, with threaded messages in a scrolling fashion, each message
> looking like a floating piece of paper.
>
> However, if I CLICK on one of the messages in the middle pane, the thread
> opens into a separate Mac OS window.
>
> So far as I can tell, there's no way for me to discard a single message
> from the list in the middle pane without also seeing its contents (other
> than embedded links unless I click them) in the "reading pane" on the
> right. Does creating a Mac OS window by double-clicking a message
> potentially create more risk for me? (I know the mantra: "there are no Mac
> viruses, and virtually all of the malware delivered by email targets
> Windows OS computers," but I'm not certain what's different about seeing a
> message's contents (which the program literally forces me to do) just by
> selecting a message (single click in the middle pane) from seeing a message
> after DOUBLE-clicking it to open it into a separate window. For example,
> This response is generated by selecting a snippet of your text from a
> message in the scrolling threaded reading pane; I could also have responded
> to it after double clicking the message. I can click on links in the
> reading pane, and they'll be executed. I don't need to double-click an HTML
> message in order to see its graphical elements, etc.
>
> (I'll ask another question of the list regarding the actual
> structure/contents of those messages, for my own edification).
>
> --
> Jim Robertson
> __o
> _-\<,_
> (*)/ (*)
> ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````
> My other car is an S-Works Roubaix
>
>
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
post. If you keep your Mac up to date, you don't have to worry about
exploits EXCEPT installing questionable apps you didn't get from the Apple
app store AND being careful of privacy attacks such as phishing that are
easily avoided with proper use of a good password nanager.
This is the main reason I use a Mac. Virtually no malware worries. You
can't even say that for Linux these days.
Bob
On Aug 13, 2013 9:11 AM, "James Robertson" <jamesrob@sonic.
> **
>
>
>
> On Aug 13, 2013, at 4:13 AM, Bob Cook <cookrd1@discoveryow
>
> > JS exploits are more of a problem on Windows, and email is used quite a
> bit
> > as the attack vector - a vulnerable computer only has to open an email,
> and
> > some email programs don't let you delete an email unless you open it
> first.
> > Such as the default mail program on my Windows tablet.
>
> May I ask how one defines "opening" an email in Mac Mail.app?
>
> Sometimes my ISP categorizes mail as "possible spam" and puts it in a
> "Graymail"
>
> Sometimes Mac Mail catches similar messages and puts them in a "Junk"
> folder.
>
> Sometimes Mac Mail categorizes similar messages as "Junk"
> still routed to my In Basket.
>
> I have no idea how Mac Mail or my ISP makes those decisions, but in each
> case it's difficult to delete obvious spam, much of it somehow containing
> malware payloads without "seeing" the text in the message body.
>
> In the default screen setup for Mail.app (current version), the extreme
> left pane is a list of folders; to the right is a list of mail messages in
> the folder highlighted at the left, with a snippet of the body text
> displayed. To the right of that is a pane where the messages themselves are
> displayed, with threaded messages in a scrolling fashion, each message
> looking like a floating piece of paper.
>
> However, if I CLICK on one of the messages in the middle pane, the thread
> opens into a separate Mac OS window.
>
> So far as I can tell, there's no way for me to discard a single message
> from the list in the middle pane without also seeing its contents (other
> than embedded links unless I click them) in the "reading pane" on the
> right. Does creating a Mac OS window by double-clicking a message
> potentially create more risk for me? (I know the mantra: "there are no Mac
> viruses, and virtually all of the malware delivered by email targets
> Windows OS computers," but I'm not certain what's different about seeing a
> message'
> selecting a message (single click in the middle pane) from seeing a message
> after DOUBLE-clicking it to open it into a separate window. For example,
> This response is generated by selecting a snippet of your text from a
> message in the scrolling threaded reading pane; I could also have responded
> to it after double clicking the message. I can click on links in the
> reading pane, and they'll be executed. I don't need to double-click an HTML
> message in order to see its graphical elements, etc.
>
> (I'll ask another question of the list regarding the actual
> structure/contents of those messages, for my own edification)
>
> --
> Jim Robertson
> __o
> _-\<,
> (*)/ (*)
> ````````````
> My other car is an S-Works Roubaix
>
>
>
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Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:28 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
Here is an excellent site to learn about computing hazards on a Mac.
http://www.thesafemac.com/
Reed Thomas is very knowledgable on the subject, and even explains it so that even I can usually follow along. He even has an article about Java and JavaScript.
Brent
On Aug 12, 2013, at 10:23 PM, Dave C wrote:
I'm following a discussion regarding search engines and security. Someone made this statement:
"Seems pretty clear to me. You get anonymized if you go through the proxy, but not if you don't. It [a proxy] also disables javascript so the website you reach via proxy can't run code on your machine and potentially get information that way."
Filtering out the pros and cons of proxies, I thought maybe the author of that statement meant java, not javascript?
The risks of enabling java on personal computers is well-known. Is javascript also insecure? Or is that statement wrong?
Thanks,
Dave
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http://www.thesafem
Reed Thomas is very knowledgable on the subject, and even explains it so that even I can usually follow along. He even has an article about Java and JavaScript.
Brent
On Aug 12, 2013, at 10:23 PM, Dave C wrote:
I'm following a discussion regarding search engines and security. Someone made this statement:
"Seems pretty clear to me. You get anonymized if you go through the proxy, but not if you don't. It [a proxy] also disables javascript so the website you reach via proxy can't run code on your machine and potentially get information that way."
Filtering out the pros and cons of proxies, I thought maybe the author of that statement meant java, not javascript?
The risks of enabling java on personal computers is well-known. Is javascript also insecure? Or is that statement wrong?
Thanks,
Dave
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Tue Aug 13, 2013 12:13 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Carol" floridabouvs
I mostly use an iPad and iMac for writing, but sometimes I would like to use a Windows 7 PC laptop because it is portable.
Is there a way I can write in Word and then continue to work it in Pages on the Mac?
It would be way easier to work on a laptop than on the iPad.
Thanks,
Carol
Is there a way I can write in Word and then continue to work it in Pages on the Mac?
It would be way easier to work on a laptop than on the iPad.
Thanks,
Carol
Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:56 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
Carol,
Look at Pages. It can save as Word doc and it can open a Word doc.
On Aug 13, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Carol wrote:
I mostly use an iPad and iMac for writing, but sometimes I would like to use a Windows 7 PC laptop because it is portable.
Is there a way I can write in Word and then continue to work it in Pages on the Mac?
It would be way easier to work on a laptop than on the iPad.
Thanks,
Carol
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Look at Pages. It can save as Word doc and it can open a Word doc.
On Aug 13, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Carol wrote:
I mostly use an iPad and iMac for writing, but sometimes I would like to use a Windows 7 PC laptop because it is portable.
Is there a way I can write in Word and then continue to work it in Pages on the Mac?
It would be way easier to work on a laptop than on the iPad.
Thanks,
Carol
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Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:34 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
> Holy moly I had to check that as I couldn't believe that DW is now $100. Glad I bought a used disk for $20 and upgraded from that!
It cost me $60 in December 2006. I can't remember whether that was a first-time, original purchase, or some sort of discount deal.
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com
It cost me $60 in December 2006. I can't remember whether that was a first-time, original purchase, or some sort of discount deal.
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.
Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:41 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"HAL9000" jrswebhome
Did console provide a clue as to what happened? I've seen Poltergeist on TV lately and mosquitoes are rough right now.
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Denver Dan <denver.dan@...> wrote:
>
> Good idea. Forgot about checking console.
>
>
> [|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|]
> iSent from iDan's iPad
>
> On Aug 12, 2013, at 11:44 PM, "HAL9000" <jrswebhome@...> wrote:
>
> > Never heard of this, and can't explain. CONSOLE could tell you what and when it occurred.
> >
> > --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Denver Dan <denver.dan@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Howdy.
> >>
> >> This is a major mystery!
> >>
> >> I have had 6 or 7 folders on my Desktop for a long time.
> >>
> >> This morning I noticed that they have all, somehow, been renamed and
> >> not by me.
> >>
> >> An example is a folder I created when I downloaded an app named Icon
> >> Creator.
> >>
> >> This folder has a zip file in it.
> >>
> >> This morning the folder name was:
> >>
> >> Icon Creator>>EMPTY<<==EMPTY==
> >>
> >> Several other folder have the same >>EMPTY<<==EMPTY== added to end of
> >> the original folder name.
> >>
> >> The folders open, still have content, and were backed up by Time
> >> Machine.
> >>
> >> None of my other hard drives have any folders with the name EMPTY
> >> added.
> >>
> >> Only folders on my Desktop boot drive were renamed.
> >>
> >> What's going on?
> >>
> >> I have no idea what did this and can't find any answers.
> >>
> >> Any thoughts by group members?
> >>
> >> Sign me
> >> Denver Dan stumped
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Group FAQ:
> > <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/macsupportcentral/files/faq.htm >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> Good idea. Forgot about checking console.
>
>
> [|][|][|][|]
> iSent from iDan's iPad
>
> On Aug 12, 2013, at 11:44 PM, "HAL9000" <jrswebhome@
>
> > Never heard of this, and can't explain. CONSOLE could tell you what and when it occurred.
> >
> > --- In macsupportcentral@
> >>
> >> Howdy.
> >>
> >> This is a major mystery!
> >>
> >> I have had 6 or 7 folders on my Desktop for a long time.
> >>
> >> This morning I noticed that they have all, somehow, been renamed and
> >> not by me.
> >>
> >> An example is a folder I created when I downloaded an app named Icon
> >> Creator.
> >>
> >> This folder has a zip file in it.
> >>
> >> This morning the folder name was:
> >>
> >> Icon Creator>>
> >>
> >> Several other folder have the same >>EMPTY<
> >> the original folder name.
> >>
> >> The folders open, still have content, and were backed up by Time
> >> Machine.
> >>
> >> None of my other hard drives have any folders with the name EMPTY
> >> added.
> >>
> >> Only folders on my Desktop boot drive were renamed.
> >>
> >> What's going on?
> >>
> >> I have no idea what did this and can't find any answers.
> >>
> >> Any thoughts by group members?
> >>
> >> Sign me
> >> Denver Dan stumped
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------
> >
> > Group FAQ:
> > <http://tech.
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:24 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
Not a clue in Console and in any log I checked. I used the search
function to try and find reference to several of the folders with the
name changes.
Mystery deepens.
Denver Dan
On Tue, 13 Aug 2013 23:41:13 +0000, HAL9000 wrote:
> Did console provide a clue as to what happened? I've seen Poltergeist
> on TV lately and mosquitoes are rough right now.
Not a clue in Console and in any log I checked. I used the search
function to try and find reference to several of the folders with the
name changes.
Mystery deepens.
Denver Dan
On Tue, 13 Aug 2013 23:41:13 +0000, HAL9000 wrote:
> Did console provide a clue as to what happened? I've seen Poltergeist
> on TV lately and mosquitoes are rough right now.
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