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Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:01 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"hester" drhester_06107
Thank you very much, Otto. Very helpful.
hester
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:
>
> Assuming that your SuperDuper backup is a full bootable clone, I'd do the
> following:-
>
> 1. Install the new drive in the Mac;
> 2. Connect the external containing the clone using USB or FW;
> 3. Hold down the option key while booting the Mac;
> 4. Choose the external clone and allow startup to complete;
> 5. The Mac should now be running from the clone;
> 6. Log in and ensure things look OK;
> 7. Format (Erase) the new internal drive as Mac OS Extended (Journaled);
> 7. Using SuperDuper, clone the external (which you are running from) to the
> new internal drive;
> 8. From System Preferences > Startup Disk, choose the internal drive and
> restart;
> 9. Log in, check that you are running from the internal drive, and that
> everything is OK;
> 10. Restore any additional files using TM. I doubt there'd be many of these.
>
> Otto
>
hester
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> Assuming that your SuperDuper backup is a full bootable clone, I'd do the
> following:-
>
> 1. Install the new drive in the Mac;
> 2. Connect the external containing the clone using USB or FW;
> 3. Hold down the option key while booting the Mac;
> 4. Choose the external clone and allow startup to complete;
> 5. The Mac should now be running from the clone;
> 6. Log in and ensure things look OK;
> 7. Format (Erase) the new internal drive as Mac OS Extended (Journaled);
> 7. Using SuperDuper, clone the external (which you are running from) to the
> new internal drive;
> 8. From System Preferences > Startup Disk, choose the internal drive and
> restart;
> 9. Log in, check that you are running from the internal drive, and that
> everything is OK;
> 10. Restore any additional files using TM. I doubt there'd be many of these.
>
> Otto
>
Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:40 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
> Assuming that your SuperDuper backup is a full bootable clone, I'd do the
> following:-
>
> 1. Install the new drive in the Mac;
> 2. Connect the external containing the clone using USB or FW;
> 3. Hold down the option key while booting the Mac;
> 4. Choose the external clone and allow startup to complete;
> 5. The Mac should now be running from the clone;
> 6. Log in and ensure things look OK;
> 7. Format (Erase) the new internal drive as Mac OS Extended (Journaled);
> 7. Using SuperDuper, clone the external (which you are running from) to the
> new internal drive;
> 8. From System Preferences > Startup Disk, choose the internal drive and
> restart;
> 9. Log in, check that you are running from the internal drive, and that
> everything is OK;
> 10. Restore any additional files using TM. I doubt there'd be many of these.
>
> Otto
Almost exactly what I would have said, except for there being two #7's....
Add in:
6.5 In Disk Utility, select the *drive* (not a volume on the drive), and click on Partition. If it is already set up as a GUID partition, you're fine. If not, you first need to re-partition it as GUID.
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com
> following:-
>
> 1. Install the new drive in the Mac;
> 2. Connect the external containing the clone using USB or FW;
> 3. Hold down the option key while booting the Mac;
> 4. Choose the external clone and allow startup to complete;
> 5. The Mac should now be running from the clone;
> 6. Log in and ensure things look OK;
> 7. Format (Erase) the new internal drive as Mac OS Extended (Journaled);
> 7. Using SuperDuper, clone the external (which you are running from) to the
> new internal drive;
> 8. From System Preferences > Startup Disk, choose the internal drive and
> restart;
> 9. Log in, check that you are running from the internal drive, and that
> everything is OK;
> 10. Restore any additional files using TM. I doubt there'd be many of these.
>
> Otto
Almost exactly what I would have said, except for there being two #7's....
Add in:
6.5 In Disk Utility, select the *drive* (not a volume on the drive), and click on Partition. If it is already set up as a GUID partition, you're fine. If not, you first need to re-partition it as GUID.
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.
Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:36 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
On 16 August 2013 04:40, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@icloud.com > wrote:
> > Assuming that your SuperDuper backup is a full bootable clone, I'd do the
> > following:-
> >
> > 1. Install the new drive in the Mac;
> > 2. Connect the external containing the clone using USB or FW;
> > 3. Hold down the option key while booting the Mac;
> > 4. Choose the external clone and allow startup to complete;
> > 5. The Mac should now be running from the clone;
> > 6. Log in and ensure things look OK;
> > 7. Format (Erase) the new internal drive as Mac OS Extended (Journaled);
> > 7. Using SuperDuper, clone the external (which you are running from) to
> the
> > new internal drive;
> > 8. From System Preferences > Startup Disk, choose the internal drive and
> > restart;
> > 9. Log in, check that you are running from the internal drive, and that
> > everything is OK;
> > 10. Restore any additional files using TM. I doubt there'd be many of
> these.
> >
> > Otto
>
> Almost exactly what I would have said, except for there being two #7's....
>
Doh! I inserted one and forgot to renumber the rest. :(
>
> Add in:
> 6.5 In Disk Utility, select the *drive* (not a volume on the drive), and
> click on Partition. If it is already set up as a GUID partition, you're
> fine. If not, you first need to re-partition it as GUID.
>
Yes, good point. It *might* not be GUID.
Otto
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> > Assuming that your SuperDuper backup is a full bootable clone, I'd do the
> > following:-
> >
> > 1. Install the new drive in the Mac;
> > 2. Connect the external containing the clone using USB or FW;
> > 3. Hold down the option key while booting the Mac;
> > 4. Choose the external clone and allow startup to complete;
> > 5. The Mac should now be running from the clone;
> > 6. Log in and ensure things look OK;
> > 7. Format (Erase) the new internal drive as Mac OS Extended (Journaled);
> > 7. Using SuperDuper, clone the external (which you are running from) to
> the
> > new internal drive;
> > 8. From System Preferences > Startup Disk, choose the internal drive and
> > restart;
> > 9. Log in, check that you are running from the internal drive, and that
> > everything is OK;
> > 10. Restore any additional files using TM. I doubt there'd be many of
> these.
> >
> > Otto
>
> Almost exactly what I would have said, except for there being two #7's....
>
Doh! I inserted one and forgot to renumber the rest. :(
>
> Add in:
> 6.5 In Disk Utility, select the *drive* (not a volume on the drive), and
> click on Partition. If it is already set up as a GUID partition, you're
> fine. If not, you first need to re-partition it as GUID.
>
Yes, good point. It *might* not be GUID.
Otto
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Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:50 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Barry Austern" barryaus
On Aug 15, 2013, at 8:54 PM, Denver Dan wrote:
> Howdy.
>
> Yes but . . . .
>
> If your HD is 500 GB and if the Apple HFS partition is 499.2 GB the
> 650.0 MB Recovery partition couldn't exist in that amount of space so
> perhaps it isn't really a partition until you boot into it?
>
> Denver Dan
Assuming the numbers are correct, 500-499.2 leaves 800 MB, and a 650 will fit there.
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Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.
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Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:52 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jon Kreisler" jonkreisler
Why not?
The partitions add up to 500.04 GB, the drive has 500.1 GB total - plenty
of room :)
Jon
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net > wrote:
> **
>
>
> Howdy.
>
> Yes but . . . .
>
> If your HD is 500 GB and if the Apple HFS partition is 499.2 GB the
> 650.0 MB Recovery partition couldn't exist in that amount of space so
> perhaps it isn't really a partition until you boot into it?
>
> Denver Dan
>
> On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 22:49:22 +0100, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
> > It is a partition/volume. You can see this in Terminal by using the
> command
> > diskutil list
> > Mine looks like this
> > ----
> > MacBook-Pro:~ ottonikolaus$ diskutil list
> > /dev/disk0
> > #: TYPE NAME SIZE
> > IDENTIFIER
> > 0: GUID_partition_scheme *500.1 GB disk0
> > 1: EFI 209.7 MB disk0s1
> > 2: Apple_HFS Macintosh HD 499.2 GB disk0s2
> > 3: Apple_Boot Recovery HD 650.0 MB disk0s3
> > ----
> > Otto
>
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The partitions add up to 500.04 GB, the drive has 500.1 GB total - plenty
of room :)
Jon
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.
> **
>
>
> Howdy.
>
> Yes but . . . .
>
> If your HD is 500 GB and if the Apple HFS partition is 499.2 GB the
> 650.0 MB Recovery partition couldn't exist in that amount of space so
> perhaps it isn't really a partition until you boot into it?
>
> Denver Dan
>
> On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 22:49:22 +0100, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
> > It is a partition/volume. You can see this in Terminal by using the
> command
> > diskutil list
> > Mine looks like this
> > ----
> > MacBook-Pro:
> > /dev/disk0
> > #: TYPE NAME SIZE
> > IDENTIFIER
> > 0: GUID_partition_
> > 1: EFI 209.7 MB disk0s1
> > 2: Apple_HFS Macintosh HD 499.2 GB disk0s2
> > 3: Apple_Boot Recovery HD 650.0 MB disk0s3
> > ----
> > Otto
>
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Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:04 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
>> 0: GUID_partition_scheme *500.1 GB disk0
>> 1: EFI 209.7 MB disk0s1
>> 2: Apple_HFS Macintosh HD 499.2 GB disk0s2
>> 3: Apple_Boot Recovery HD 650.0 MB disk0s3
>
> Yes but . . . .
>
> If your HD is 500 GB and if the Apple HFS partition is 499.2 GB the
> 650.0 MB Recovery partition couldn't exist in that amount of space so
> perhaps it isn't really a partition until you boot into it?
499.2 GB + 0.650 GB + 0.2097 GB = 500.0597 GB
Which still leaves over 900 MB out of the 500.1 (presuming these are all "decimal" bytes).
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com
>> 1: EFI 209.7 MB disk0s1
>> 2: Apple_HFS Macintosh HD 499.2 GB disk0s2
>> 3: Apple_Boot Recovery HD 650.0 MB disk0s3
>
> Yes but . . . .
>
> If your HD is 500 GB and if the Apple HFS partition is 499.2 GB the
> 650.0 MB Recovery partition couldn't exist in that amount of space so
> perhaps it isn't really a partition until you boot into it?
499.2 GB + 0.650 GB + 0.2097 GB = 500.0597 GB
Which still leaves over 900 MB out of the 500.1 (presuming these are all "decimal" bytes).
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.
Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:46 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Amazing!
Never could count to 16 or 12 or 1024.
An off to a trip.
Denver Dan
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 21:50:18 -0400, Barry Austern wrote:
>
> On Aug 15, 2013, at 8:54 PM, Denver Dan wrote:
>
>> Howdy.
>>
>> Yes but . . . .
>>
>> If your HD is 500 GB and if the Apple HFS partition is 499.2 GB the
>> 650.0 MB Recovery partition couldn't exist in that amount of space so
>> perhaps it isn't really a partition until you boot into it?
>>
>> Denver Dan
>
>
> Assuming the numbers are correct, 500-499.2 leaves 800 MB, and a 650
> will fit there.
>
> --
> Barry Austern
> barryaus@fuse.net
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Never could count to 16 or 12 or 1024.
An off to a trip.
Denver Dan
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 21:50:18 -0400, Barry Austern wrote:
>
> On Aug 15, 2013, at 8:54 PM, Denver Dan wrote:
>
>> Howdy.
>>
>> Yes but . . . .
>>
>> If your HD is 500 GB and if the Apple HFS partition is 499.2 GB the
>> 650.0 MB Recovery partition couldn't exist in that amount of space so
>> perhaps it isn't really a partition until you boot into it?
>>
>> Denver Dan
>
>
> Assuming the numbers are correct, 500-499.2 leaves 800 MB, and a 650
> will fit there.
>
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> Barry Austern
> barryaus@fuse.
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Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:57 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
On 16 August 2013 04:04, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@icloud.com > wrote:
>
> 499.2 GB + 0.650 GB + 0.2097 GB = 500.0597 GB
>
> Which still leaves over 900 MB out of the 500.1 (presuming these are all
> "decimal" bytes).
>
I'm on 10.8. I assume Terminal uses "decimal", not "binary", sizing, in
line with Finder. Perhaps others could check with Terminal in 10.7 or 10.8
(earlier OSes don't have a Recovery HD, do they?)? If these figures were
"binary", the total of 500 would instead be around 466 (disk makers still
size in "decimal" AFAIK).
Otto
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>
> 499.2 GB + 0.650 GB + 0.2097 GB = 500.0597 GB
>
> Which still leaves over 900 MB out of the 500.1 (presuming these are all
> "decimal" bytes).
>
I'm on 10.8. I assume Terminal uses "decimal"
line with Finder. Perhaps others could check with Terminal in 10.7 or 10.8
(earlier OSes don't have a Recovery HD, do they?)? If these figures were
"binary"
size in "decimal" AFAIK).
Otto
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Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:16 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
On 16 August 2013 04:04, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@icloud.com > wrote:
>
> 499.2 GB + 0.650 GB + 0.2097 GB = 500.0597 GB
>
> Which still leaves over 900 MB out of the 500.1 (presuming these are all
> "decimal" bytes).
>
Actually, 500.1 - 500.0597 = 0.0403 = 40.3 MB, not that this alters the
"650 MB does fit" argument. ;)
Otto
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> 499.2 GB + 0.650 GB + 0.2097 GB = 500.0597 GB
>
> Which still leaves over 900 MB out of the 500.1 (presuming these are all
> "decimal" bytes).
>
Actually, 500.1 - 500.0597 = 0.0403 = 40.3 MB, not that this alters the
"650 MB does fit" argument. ;)
Otto
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