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Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:04 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
Being that sending e-ddresses were sometimes spoofed, and it caused problems for the relatively innocent (those who had their computers made into bots), and extra work for the ISPs while not solving the problem only exacerbating it.
I would say that deleting is better than bouncing.
JMHO,
Brent
On Aug 21, 2013, at 7:32 AM, Bill Castine wrote:
That is open to debate. Apple apparently decided it was better to delete than to bounce and, consquently, removed the option. Personally, I still like to bounce occasionally so I chose to install the software.
Bill C.
On Aug 21, 2013, at 9:55 AM, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com > wrote:
> Yes, but is it better to bounce an unwanted email or simply to delete it?
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> Otto
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> On 21 August 2013 14:32, Bill Castine <bill.castine@gmail.com > wrote:
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>> I enjoyed the "Bounce" button also and found a piece of software to
>> restore its function and an icon in Mail's toolbar:
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>> http://download.cnet.com/Restore-Bounce-Mail-Button-To-Lions-Mail/3000-20429_4-75629050.html
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>> It works with OSX 10.8.4 as well.
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>> Note: This is one example of free software that works and just may be
>> worth more than it costs!
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I would say that deleting is better than bouncing.
JMHO,
Brent
On Aug 21, 2013, at 7:32 AM, Bill Castine wrote:
That is open to debate. Apple apparently decided it was better to delete than to bounce and, consquently, removed the option. Personally, I still like to bounce occasionally so I chose to install the software.
Bill C.
On Aug 21, 2013, at 9:55 AM, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@
> Yes, but is it better to bounce an unwanted email or simply to delete it?
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> Otto
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> On 21 August 2013 14:32, Bill Castine <bill.castine@
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>> I enjoyed the "Bounce" button also and found a piece of software to
>> restore its function and an icon in Mail's toolbar:
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>> http://download.
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>> It works with OSX 10.8.4 as well.
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>> Note: This is one example of free software that works and just may be
>> worth more than it costs!
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Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:26 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"hester" drhester_06107
>
> Ever hear the story about the fellow who answered the ad for a "1965 Corvette in like-new condition" for $50?
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> He phoned in his interest, he went to the house, the woman took him out to a wonderfully-
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> He paid her the $50, received a receipt and the title, and only then asked why she was selling it so inexpensively.
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> She said her husband had run off with his secretary two weeks ago, and had just left a phone message: "Need money. Sell the 'Vette. Send me half."
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Hilarious. Thanks for the laugh
Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:36 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
>> How do I find out what DNS server I'm using when on a Netwok via a router?
>> When looking at DNS in Network Advanced I just get the local 10.0.1.1 IP
> Strange.
> I have DNS Server IPs set in the router and those settings show in Network > Advanced > DNS, along with the router's name under Search Domain. These are greyed out, of course. I see the local IP address under Advanced > TCP/IP.
> Otto
I subscribe (if that's the word) to OpenDNS, and the IP's from them that I entered in Network > Advanced > DNS are what show up for me.
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>> When looking at DNS in Network Advanced I just get the local 10.0.1.1 IP
> Strange.
> I have DNS Server IPs set in the router and those settings show in Network > Advanced > DNS, along with the router's name under Search Domain. These are greyed out, of course. I see the local IP address under Advanced > TCP/IP.
> Otto
I subscribe (if that's the word) to OpenDNS, and the IP's from them that I entered in Network > Advanced > DNS are what show up for me.
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Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:02 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
On 21 August 2013 23:36, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@icloud.com > wrote:
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> I subscribe (if that's the word) to OpenDNS, and the IP's from them that I
> entered in Network > Advanced > DNS are what show up for me.
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It so happens that we also use OpenDNS, but set up in the router so all
devices here use it without having to set it up on each and every one.
Otto
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> I subscribe (if that's the word) to OpenDNS, and the IP's from them that I
> entered in Network > Advanced > DNS are what show up for me.
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It so happens that we also use OpenDNS, but set up in the router so all
devices here use it without having to set it up on each and every one.
Otto
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Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:16 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Christopher Collins" cjc1959au
That is the DNS you are using. The local router is acting as a DNS.
From there, it is probably going upstream to your providers DNS. Usually this can be seen in your router status page.
It can usually also be changed in your router if you wish to use a different DNS as well.
And not to be a grammar nazi, but DNS is "Domain Name Server". It does't require an extra "server" on the end.
Anyway, hope this helps.
cjc
On 22/08/2013, at 4:00 AM, Bill B. <bill501@mindspring.com > wrote:
> How do I find out what DNS server I'm using when on a Netwok via a router? When looking at DNS in Network Advanced I just get the local 10.0.1.1 IP
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> Bill
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From there, it is probably going upstream to your providers DNS. Usually this can be seen in your router status page.
It can usually also be changed in your router if you wish to use a different DNS as well.
And not to be a grammar nazi, but DNS is "Domain Name Server"
Anyway, hope this helps.
cjc
On 22/08/2013, at 4:00 AM, Bill B. <bill501@mindspring.
> How do I find out what DNS server I'm using when on a Netwok via a router? When looking at DNS in Network Advanced I just get the local 10.0.1.1 IP
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> Bill
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Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:58 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
You're right, no extra "server" required.
;)
Otto
On 22 August 2013 00:15, Christopher Collins
<maclist@analogdigital.com.au >wrote:
> That is the DNS you are using. The local router is acting as a DNS.
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> From there, it is probably going upstream to your providers DNS. Usually
> this can be seen in your router status page.
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> It can usually also be changed in your router if you wish to use a
> different DNS as well.
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> And not to be a grammar nazi, but DNS is "Domain Name Server". It does't
> require an extra "server" on the end.
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> Anyway, hope this helps.
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;)
Otto
On 22 August 2013 00:15, Christopher Collins
<maclist@analogdigit
> That is the DNS you are using. The local router is acting as a DNS.
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> From there, it is probably going upstream to your providers DNS. Usually
> this can be seen in your router status page.
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> It can usually also be changed in your router if you wish to use a
> different DNS as well.
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> And not to be a grammar nazi, but DNS is "Domain Name Server"
> require an extra "server" on the end.
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> Anyway, hope this helps.
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Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:50 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
cheeky_chas
Can I ask a (perhaps naive) question on the topic of spam?
If the surveillance we hear about is true, also the fact that we are told if you do bad things on the internet you will be found………….why is it that spammers cannot be found and their spamming stopped or curtailed?
Charles.
If the surveillance we hear about is true, also the fact that we are told if you do bad things on the internet you will be found………….why is it that spammers cannot be found and their spamming stopped or curtailed?
Charles.
Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:51 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"HAL9000" jrswebhome
Who knows, maybe I would miss all the invitations from one spammer called "Rachell". I have to give her or him credit for consistency. I've been getting her romantic invitations for years seems like.
All email is a constant training application. I must daily train my email what is trash and what is not. It's been that way for many many years.
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> Can I ask a (perhaps naive) question on the topic of spam?
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> If the surveillance we hear about is true, also the fact that we are told if you do bad things on the internet you will be found………….why is it that spammers cannot be found and their spamming stopped or curtailed?
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> Charles.
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All email is a constant training application. I must daily train my email what is trash and what is not. It's been that way for many many years.
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> Can I ask a (perhaps naive) question on the topic of spam?
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> If the surveillance we hear about is true, also the fact that we are told if you do bad things on the internet you will be found………….why is it that spammers cannot be found and their spamming stopped or curtailed?
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> Charles.
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Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:47 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
If you found the spammers, what would you charge them with? Unless they are caught in a crime like a con job, they have done nothing legally wrong. Just because you don't like their constant barrage of emails, doesn't mean they have done anything wrong.
Don't get me wrong, I don't like spam, or junk snail-mail either, but try and stop junk snail-mail. The USPS is set up in a way that encourages junk mail, and the rest of us have are subsidizing it.
That and the spammer is probably in a foreign country with different laws, anyway, and our government has no power over them anyway.
Brent
On Aug 21, 2013, at 3:50 PM, ck368@me.com wrote:
Can I ask a (perhaps naive) question on the topic of spam?
If the surveillance we hear about is true, also the fact that we are told if you do bad things on the internet you will be found………….why is it that spammers cannot be found and their spamming stopped or curtailed?
Charles.
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Don't get me wrong, I don't like spam, or junk snail-mail either, but try and stop junk snail-mail. The USPS is set up in a way that encourages junk mail, and the rest of us have are subsidizing it.
That and the spammer is probably in a foreign country with different laws, anyway, and our government has no power over them anyway.
Brent
On Aug 21, 2013, at 3:50 PM, ck368@me.com wrote:
Can I ask a (perhaps naive) question on the topic of spam?
If the surveillance we hear about is true, also the fact that we are told if you do bad things on the internet you will be found………….why is it that spammers cannot be found and their spamming stopped or curtailed?
Charles.
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Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:10 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Robert Buscaglia" rbuscag
Your key word is "if". No one is reading everyday run of the mill email. This country has over 300 million people. No government agency can read every email and listen to every phone call.
Spam violates terms of service but even if an ISP catches a spammer they can move to a different ISP or use a different IP address.
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:50 PM, ck368@me.com wrote:
> Can I ask a (perhaps naive) question on the topic of spam?
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> If the surveillance we hear about is true, also the fact that we are told if you do bad things on the internet you will be found………….why is it that spammers cannot be found and their spamming stopped or curtailed?
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> Charles.
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Spam violates terms of service but even if an ISP catches a spammer they can move to a different ISP or use a different IP address.
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:50 PM, ck368@me.com wrote:
> Can I ask a (perhaps naive) question on the topic of spam?
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> If the surveillance we hear about is true, also the fact that we are told if you do bad things on the internet you will be found………….why is it that spammers cannot be found and their spamming stopped or curtailed?
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> Charles.
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Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:27 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
>> If the surveillance we hear about is true, also the fact that we are told if you do bad things on the internet you will be found ... why is it that spammers cannot be found and their spamming stopped or curtailed?
>> Charles.
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> Your key word is "if". No one is reading everyday run of the mill email. This country has over 300 million people. No government agency can read every email and listen to every phone call.
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> Spam violates terms of service but even if an ISP catches a spammer they can move to a different ISP or use a different IP address.
For reference:
> Kaspersky Lab, the security company has just published its Q2-2013 spam report that gives thorough information on spam trends during the three months April-June 2013. It was discovered that there was a 4.2% increase in junk e-mails within the entire e-mail traffic to 70.7% from Q1 to Q2.
That is:
70+% of **ALL** email messages passing through the internet is spam.
For most, if not all, of us, the HUGE majority of this if filtered out by your ISP before it can be sent to your computer.
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>> Charles.
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> Your key word is "if"
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> Spam violates terms of service but even if an ISP catches a spammer they can move to a different ISP or use a different IP address.
For reference:
> Kaspersky Lab, the security company has just published its Q2-2013 spam report that gives thorough information on spam trends during the three months April-June 2013. It was discovered that there was a 4.2% increase in junk e-mails within the entire e-mail traffic to 70.7% from Q1 to Q2.
That is:
70+% of **ALL** email messages passing through the internet is spam.
For most, if not all, of us, the HUGE majority of this if filtered out by your ISP before it can be sent to your computer.
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Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:20 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"John Engberg" mrbyte
If you don't have a wireless printer, try HandyPrint.
John engberg
On Aug 18, 2013, at 8:14 PM, Paul <HLECPTR@aol.com > wrote:
> Is anyone aware of any cable connections to connect an iPad to a printer?
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> Thanks,
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Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:33 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Dave C" davec2468
A bit OT, I guess: I want to create a bootable USB flash drive with an .iso image of Windows 7 that I downloaded. Yes I have the license key for an install.
I thought I could just use Disk Utility's Restore function but I'm told by DU:
"Restore Failure: Could not validate source -- Invalid argument."
The .iso image is 3.2 GB; the flash drive is 16 GB formatted FAT32 with Master Boot Record partition (only 1 partition). I also tried a 3.8 GB flash drive, similarly formatted, with identical results.
Can I do this? What am I doing wrong?
While the question relates to a Windows installer, I'm using my Mac so probably no Windows forum would know the answer.
Thanks,
Dave
OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
2011 Mini 2.7 GHz dual i7 / 16 GB / 250 GB & 750 GB
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I thought I could just use Disk Utility'
"Restore Failure: Could not validate source -- Invalid argument."
The .iso image is 3.2 GB; the flash drive is 16 GB formatted FAT32 with Master Boot Record partition (only 1 partition). I also tried a 3.8 GB flash drive, similarly formatted, with identical results.
Can I do this? What am I doing wrong?
While the question relates to a Windows installer, I'm using my Mac so probably no Windows forum would know the answer.
Thanks,
Dave
OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
2011 Mini 2.7 GHz dual i7 / 16 GB / 250 GB & 750 GB
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Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:58 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Tony" tdale@xtra.co.nz
I did this the other day, but as I am at work now I cannot advise what I used uintil I get home in 5 hours. I will check tonight if you got it resolved
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Subject: [macsupport] Creating a Windows installer USB boot drive?
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A bit OT, I guess: I want to create a bootable USB flash drive with an .iso image of Windows 7 that I downloaded. Yes I have the license key for an install.
I thought I could just use Disk Utility's Restore function but I'm told by DU:
"Restore Failure: Could not validate source -- Invalid argument."
The .iso image is 3.2 GB; the flash drive is 16 GB formatted FAT32 with Master Boot Record partition (only 1 partition). I also tried a 3.8 GB flash drive, similarly formatted, with identical results.
Can I do this? What am I doing wrong?
While the question relates to a Windows installer, I'm using my Mac so probably no Windows forum would know the answer.
Thanks,
Dave
OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
2011 Mini 2.7 GHz dual i7 / 16 GB / 250 GB & 750 GB
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Subject: [macsupport] Creating a Windows installer USB boot drive?
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A bit OT, I guess: I want to create a bootable USB flash drive with an .iso image of Windows 7 that I downloaded. Yes I have the license key for an install.
I thought I could just use Disk Utility'
"Restore Failure: Could not validate source -- Invalid argument."
The .iso image is 3.2 GB; the flash drive is 16 GB formatted FAT32 with Master Boot Record partition (only 1 partition). I also tried a 3.8 GB flash drive, similarly formatted, with identical results.
Can I do this? What am I doing wrong?
While the question relates to a Windows installer, I'm using my Mac so probably no Windows forum would know the answer.
Thanks,
Dave
OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
2011 Mini 2.7 GHz dual i7 / 16 GB / 250 GB & 750 GB
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Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:10 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Dave C" davec2468
Thanks Tony. I'd like to know. If I get an answer I'll email you direct and let you know.
Thanks,
Dave
On Aug 21, 2013, at 8:58 PM, Tony wrote:
> I did this the other day, but as I am at work now I cannot advise what I used uintil I get home in 5 hours. I will check tonight if you got it resolved
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Thanks,
Dave
On Aug 21, 2013, at 8:58 PM, Tony wrote:
> I did this the other day, but as I am at work now I cannot advise what I used uintil I get home in 5 hours. I will check tonight if you got it resolved
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