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Commercial post? Macupdate bundle deal started today - need Parallel by "Jurgen Richter" epsongroups
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Wed Mar 6, 2013 6:23 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger
On Mar 6, 2013, at 4:40 AM, T Hopkins wrote:
> Macs are not invulnerable.
Nobody is saying that they are. And only Windows bigots go around saying that Mac users say that.
However, OS X has been out for over 12 years now, and there still isn't a single actual virus for it in the wild.
A quote:
"CONCLUSIONS.
However, it is important to keep in mind that Mac OS X already does an admirable job of protecting against malware. At this time, there is no known malware capable of infecting a Mac running a properly-updated version of Mac OS X 10.6 or later, with all security settings left at the default (at a minimum)."
http://www.thesafem
By the way, Rich Mogull has a history of being overly alarmist, and self-contradictory. I take what he has to say with a big grain of salt.
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Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattor
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Wed Mar 6, 2013 7:59 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Norman Lloyd" norman_lloyd
… please be sure to eliminate all the messages when you respond. Some of these replies are getting pretty long and unnecessary. Include the message you are directly responding to, but not everything...
Wed Mar 6, 2013 9:33 am (PST) . Posted by:
"T Hopkins" todhop
On Mar 6, 2013, at 9:22 AM, Randy B. Singer wrote:
> And only Windows bigots go around saying that Mac users say that.
I was going to leave this unanswered, but I can't.
Cheers,
tod
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> And only Windows bigots go around saying that Mac users say that.
I was going to leave this unanswered, but I can't.
Cheers,
tod
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Wed Mar 6, 2013 9:52 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Earle Jones" earlejones501
On Mar 6, 13, at 6:22 AM, Randy B. Singer randy@macattorney.
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> On Mar 6, 2013, at 4:40 AM, T Hopkins wrote:
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> > Macs are not invulnerable.
>
> Nobody is saying that they are. And only Windows bigots go around saying that Mac users say that.
>
> However, OS X has been out for over 12 years now, and there still isn't a single actual virus for it in the wild.
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Randy (et al):
Back about System 9 I had a copy of a virus (WDEF -- the "Windows Definition" virus) on a floppy.
I loaded it into my Mac to test some Symantec software. The software worked and beeped that I had a virus.
As far as I know, that is the only virus, the only malware, I have ever had on any Apple product, beginning with the Apple ][ I gave my daughter on her 12th birthday in 1968 (she will be 45 this year!) My first Mac was 1984 and I have used just about every Mac since then. I am now running Sys 10.8.2 (Mountain Lion) on a 27" iMac.
earle
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Earle Jones 
501 Portola Road #8008
Portola Valley CA 94028
Home: 650-424-4362
Cell: 650-269-0035
earle.jones@
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Wed Mar 6, 2013 10:13 am (PST) . Posted by:
"OBrien" conorboru
On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 09:51:58 -0800, Earle Jones wrote:
> Back about System 9 I had a copy of a virus (WDEF -- the "Windows
> Definition" virus) on a floppy.
>
> I loaded it into my Mac to test some Symantec software. The
> software worked and beeped that I had a virus.
>
> As far as I know, that is the only virus, the only malware, I have
> ever had on any Apple product
I vaguely remember that one, but I never had it. I've been using Macs starting with a Mac Plus in 1986. I've never used any anti-virus software, and I've +never+ had any sort of virus, worm, Trojan horse, malware, or anything. It just isn't on my list of things to think about.
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O'Brien ¡V¡V¡V ¡V... .-. .. . -.
> Back about System 9 I had a copy of a virus (WDEF -- the "Windows
> Definition" virus) on a floppy.
>
> I loaded it into my Mac to test some Symantec software. The
> software worked and beeped that I had a virus.
>
> As far as I know, that is the only virus, the only malware, I have
> ever had on any Apple product
I vaguely remember that one, but I never had it. I've been using Macs starting with a Mac Plus in 1986. I've never used any anti-virus software, and I've +never+ had any sort of virus, worm, Trojan horse, malware, or anything. It just isn't on my list of things to think about.
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O'Brien ¡V¡V¡V ¡V... .-. .. . -.
Wed Mar 6, 2013 10:15 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Earle Jones" earlejones501
ERROR!! ERROR!!
Sorry
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On Mar 6, 13, at 9:51 AM, Earle Jones earle.jones@comcast.net > wrote:
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> On Mar 6, 13, at 6:22 AM, Randy B. Singer randy@macattorney.com > wrote:
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> >
> > On Mar 6, 2013, at 4:40 AM, T Hopkins wrote:
> >
> > > Macs are not invulnerable.
> >
> > Nobody is saying that they are. And only Windows bigots go around saying that Mac users say that.
> >
> > However, OS X has been out for over 12 years now, and there still isn't a single actual virus for it in the wild.
> >
> >
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> Randy (et al):
>
> Back about System 9 I had a copy of a virus (WDEF -- the "Windows Definition" virus) on a floppy.
>
> I loaded it into my Mac to test some Symantec software. The software worked and beeped that I had a virus.
>
> As far as I know, that is the only virus, the only malware, I have ever had on any Apple product, beginning with the Apple ][ I gave my daughter on her 12th birthday in 1968 (she will be 45 this year!) My first Mac was 1984 and I have used just about every Mac since then. I am now running Sys 10.8.2 (Mountain Lion) on a 27" iMac.
>
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My daughter was born in 1968 -- she received the Apple ][ in 1980.
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> earle
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> _______________________
> Earle Jones 
> 501 Portola Road #8008
> Portola Valley CA 94028
> Home: 650-424-4362
> Cell: 650-269-0035
> earle.jones@comcast.net
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Sorry
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On Mar 6, 13, at 9:51 AM, Earle Jones earle.jones@
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> On Mar 6, 13, at 6:22 AM, Randy B. Singer randy@macattorney.
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> >
> > On Mar 6, 2013, at 4:40 AM, T Hopkins wrote:
> >
> > > Macs are not invulnerable.
> >
> > Nobody is saying that they are. And only Windows bigots go around saying that Mac users say that.
> >
> > However, OS X has been out for over 12 years now, and there still isn't a single actual virus for it in the wild.
> >
> >
>
> *
> Randy (et al):
>
> Back about System 9 I had a copy of a virus (WDEF -- the "Windows Definition" virus) on a floppy.
>
> I loaded it into my Mac to test some Symantec software. The software worked and beeped that I had a virus.
>
> As far as I know, that is the only virus, the only malware, I have ever had on any Apple product, beginning with the Apple ][ I gave my daughter on her 12th birthday in 1968 (she will be 45 this year!) My first Mac was 1984 and I have used just about every Mac since then. I am now running Sys 10.8.2 (Mountain Lion) on a 27" iMac.
>
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My daughter was born in 1968 -- she received the Apple ][ in 1980.
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>
> earle
> *
> ____________
> Earle Jones 
> 501 Portola Road #8008
> Portola Valley CA 94028
> Home: 650-424-4362
> Cell: 650-269-0035
> earle.jones@
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Wed Mar 6, 2013 10:50 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
> As far as I know, that is the only virus, the only malware, I have ever had on any Apple product, beginning with the Apple ][ I gave my daughter on her 12th birthday in 1968 (she will be 45 this year!)
> earle
Don't think so.
The Apple ][ was first introduced in 1977.
If she's 45, then she was twelve 33 years ago, in 1980.
> earle
Don't think so.
The Apple ][ was first introduced in 1977.
If she's 45, then she was twelve 33 years ago, in 1980.
Wed Mar 6, 2013 6:43 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Jurgen Richter" epsongroups
This is not meant to be a plug for Macupdate, just a heads-up... Have a
look and see for yourself - I'm not going to plug anyone in particular,
but since so many recent posts mentioned running Parallels in order to
run Windows concurrently on your mac (among others), this seemed
appropriate, since it is on sale. So for those who need it, it might be
a good opportunity. You would still need a version of Windows, but that
is not being offered here.
Here is a link to the bundle offering, FWIW.
http://deals.macupdate.com
I thought I'd help some folks save some money if they need this and some
of the other apps currently available in the bundle. Just so you know, I
have personally purchased such bundles in the past, and more often than
not, found deals applicable to my needs - your mileage may vary...
look and see for yourself - I'm not going to plug anyone in particular,
but since so many recent posts mentioned running Parallels in order to
run Windows concurrently on your mac (among others), this seemed
appropriate, since it is on sale. So for those who need it, it might be
a good opportunity. You would still need a version of Windows, but that
is not being offered here.
Here is a link to the bundle offering, FWIW.
http://deals.
I thought I'd help some folks save some money if they need this and some
of the other apps currently available in the bundle. Just so you know, I
have personally purchased such bundles in the past, and more often than
not, found deals applicable to my needs - your mileage may vary...
Wed Mar 6, 2013 6:57 am (PST) . Posted by:
"caribsea@bellsouth.net" caribsea@bellsouth.net
iMac mid 2010, OS Lion
In the left pane of the finder window is something named All My Files, with many thousands of items listed. Are these aliases or are they duplicates of files (mostly pictures) found elsewhere?
Willi
In the left pane of the finder window is something named All My Files, with many thousands of items listed. Are these aliases or are they duplicates of files (mostly pictures) found elsewhere?
Willi
Wed Mar 6, 2013 7:03 am (PST) . Posted by:
"HAL9000" jrswebhome
It is all the files on your computer that OSX will allow you to see, mostly created by you. There are more files, but you have to reveal them in different ways.
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , "caribsea@..." wrote:
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> iMac mid 2010, OS Lion
>
> In the left pane of the finder window is something named All My Files, with many thousands of items listed. Are these aliases or are they duplicates of files (mostly pictures) found elsewhere?
>
> Willi
>
--- In macsupportcentral@
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> iMac mid 2010, OS Lion
>
> In the left pane of the finder window is something named All My Files, with many thousands of items listed. Are these aliases or are they duplicates of files (mostly pictures) found elsewhere?
>
> Willi
>
Wed Mar 6, 2013 7:16 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
All My Files is a somewhat recent addition to Finder.
I find it unnecessary and somewhat inconvenient so I turn it off.
To turn off All My Files use the Finder>Preferences command. Click the
Sidebar icon and uncheck All My Files under Favorites.
Of course, the same Preference menu lets you turn and off other things
at your own convenience.
Denver Dan
On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 14:57:32 +0000, caribsea@bellsouth.net wrote:
> iMac mid 2010, OS Lion
>
> In the left pane of the finder window is something named All My
> Files, with many thousands of items listed. Are these aliases or are
> they duplicates of files (mostly pictures) found elsewhere?
>
> Willi
All My Files is a somewhat recent addition to Finder.
I find it unnecessary and somewhat inconvenient so I turn it off.
To turn off All My Files use the Finder>Preferenc
Sidebar icon and uncheck All My Files under Favorites.
Of course, the same Preference menu lets you turn and off other things
at your own convenience.
Denver Dan
On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 14:57:32 +0000, caribsea@bellsouth.
> iMac mid 2010, OS Lion
>
> In the left pane of the finder window is something named All My
> Files, with many thousands of items listed. Are these aliases or are
> they duplicates of files (mostly pictures) found elsewhere?
>
> Willi
Wed Mar 6, 2013 8:15 am (PST) . Posted by:
"LouisD" ldina
I use Gmail directly via the web (no download client) and have for years. I'm using OSX 10.8.2 on a Mac Pro.
Beginning a few days ago, I can only access maybe the first 30 or 40 of my contacts (A, B, C and part of D, by last name, listed alphabetically). It doesn't matter if I select My Contacts, All Contacts, or Imported Contacts. I have about 400 total contacts, and I see absolutely no way to get to the rest of my contacts.
If I manually type a person's name into the TO:, CC: or BCC: fields, they dutifully show up and can be added. It doesn't seem to make any difference if it is a new message, forwarded message or a reply...I only can access the first 30 or 40 names in the contact list when clicking the on the To:, cc:, or bcc: drop down. I have checked my Contacts and they all show up and seem fine. I imported my contacts weeks ago and they worked fine, but things went haywire just recently. No new software.
This only started a few days ago and I am completely stumped. I've rebooted my computer, I've run YASU and cleared all the caches, etc. No luck.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Lou Dina
Beginning a few days ago, I can only access maybe the first 30 or 40 of my contacts (A, B, C and part of D, by last name, listed alphabetically)
If I manually type a person's name into the TO:, CC: or BCC: fields, they dutifully show up and can be added. It doesn't seem to make any difference if it is a new message, forwarded message or a reply...I only can access the first 30 or 40 names in the contact list when clicking the on the To:, cc:, or bcc: drop down. I have checked my Contacts and they all show up and seem fine. I imported my contacts weeks ago and they worked fine, but things went haywire just recently. No new software.
This only started a few days ago and I am completely stumped. I've rebooted my computer, I've run YASU and cleared all the caches, etc. No luck.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Lou Dina
Wed Mar 6, 2013 10:43 am (PST) . Posted by:
"LouisD" ldina
I failed to mention I am using Safari 6.0.2 as my browser when accessing Gmail on the web.
I have the same issue with Firefox, so I don't think it is browser related.
Lou
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , "LouisD" wrote:
>
> I use Gmail directly via the web (no download client) and have for years. I'm using OSX 10.8.2 on a Mac Pro.
>
> Beginning a few days ago, I can only access maybe the first 30 or 40 of my contacts (A, B, C and part of D, by last name, listed alphabetically). It doesn't matter if I select My Contacts, All Contacts, or Imported Contacts. I have about 400 total contacts, and I see absolutely no way to get to the rest of my contacts.
>
> If I manually type a person's name into the TO:, CC: or BCC: fields, they dutifully show up and can be added. It doesn't seem to make any difference if it is a new message, forwarded message or a reply...I only can access the first 30 or 40 names in the contact list when clicking the on the To:, cc:, or bcc: drop down. I have checked my Contacts and they all show up and seem fine. I imported my contacts weeks ago and they worked fine, but things went haywire just recently. No new software.
>
> This only started a few days ago and I am completely stumped. I've rebooted my computer, I've run YASU and cleared all the caches, etc. No luck.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lou Dina
>
I have the same issue with Firefox, so I don't think it is browser related.
Lou
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> I use Gmail directly via the web (no download client) and have for years. I'm using OSX 10.8.2 on a Mac Pro.
>
> Beginning a few days ago, I can only access maybe the first 30 or 40 of my contacts (A, B, C and part of D, by last name, listed alphabetically)
>
> If I manually type a person's name into the TO:, CC: or BCC: fields, they dutifully show up and can be added. It doesn't seem to make any difference if it is a new message, forwarded message or a reply...I only can access the first 30 or 40 names in the contact list when clicking the on the To:, cc:, or bcc: drop down. I have checked my Contacts and they all show up and seem fine. I imported my contacts weeks ago and they worked fine, but things went haywire just recently. No new software.
>
> This only started a few days ago and I am completely stumped. I've rebooted my computer, I've run YASU and cleared all the caches, etc. No luck.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lou Dina
>
Wed Mar 6, 2013 10:44 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Budd T" n7eoj
Wed Mar 6, 2013 10:46 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Dan" live2av8
I've been a member of the list for years but don't even qualify for lurker status. The Apple products have been working quite well, until recently that is.
I searched the archives of messages but couldn't quite find what I was looking for. Maybe I just didn't type the right search phrase.
Have an early 2007 (model 3,1 link to model) MacBook Pro. Nearly 2 months ago I upgraded from 10.6.8 to 10.8.2. Only problem I noticed was after start or restart in the process of starting up again the dark grey apple and spinning segmented circle would appear, but after that the display would go very dim, could just barely see the desktop. I would close the lid, open it again and all was well. Laptop & display would work fine thereafter.
Starting a couple weeks ago the display would suddenly begin a rapid flickering and all controls were ineffective. Once it began the only thing I could do to get out of it was forcibly shut it down, then restart. This might happen 3 times a day, or go 2 days without it happening and the laptop working fine.
On 2 occasions upon restarting I copied the file (and saved it elsewhere) that would normally be sent to Apple. Also saved 1 of the Console reports. I'm not certain how to decipher the 3 of them. One begins with cpu 1 along with Kernel trap, another cpu 0 with Kernel trap.
Twice I've installed what I believe is the correct Apple Service Diagnostic disk and ran a full test. All tests passed except both times it failed the hard drive test, indicating no S.M.A.R.T. status available, and it wouldn't test the memory either time, it would just hang for nearly an hour. Both times I had to restart and bypass that test. According to Disk Utility S.M.A.R.T. status is verified for the disk. After 3 startups I checked system profiler, it always indicated that upon startup memory passed.
Then several day ago I had to forcibly shut it down once again, upon restart no display. Tried restarting several times, sometimes I would get the startup chime, other times not. After each restart no display, not even a dimmed display. Then I thought how about a PRAM reset. So I held down command-option-p-r for several startup tones. Possibly a bad move. Now I don't get startup tone at all. It sounds like the hard drive or a fan is spinning. The sleep indicator light is on dimly and steady.
The ASD disk is still in the drive, can't eject it.
The power supply is working fine, seems to be plenty of power to the laptop, amber light is on until the battery is charged. Both batteries I've tried show all green lights.
Any hints or opinions on what I should try next? Certain key strokes, or tests I can run to find out if the laptop actually died?
No smoke or flame from the laptop......yet! Maybe it's repairable.
Dan
I searched the archives of messages but couldn't quite find what I was looking for. Maybe I just didn't type the right search phrase.
Have an early 2007 (model 3,1 link to model) MacBook Pro. Nearly 2 months ago I upgraded from 10.6.8 to 10.8.2. Only problem I noticed was after start or restart in the process of starting up again the dark grey apple and spinning segmented circle would appear, but after that the display would go very dim, could just barely see the desktop. I would close the lid, open it again and all was well. Laptop & display would work fine thereafter.
Starting a couple weeks ago the display would suddenly begin a rapid flickering and all controls were ineffective. Once it began the only thing I could do to get out of it was forcibly shut it down, then restart. This might happen 3 times a day, or go 2 days without it happening and the laptop working fine.
On 2 occasions upon restarting I copied the file (and saved it elsewhere) that would normally be sent to Apple. Also saved 1 of the Console reports. I'm not certain how to decipher the 3 of them. One begins with cpu 1 along with Kernel trap, another cpu 0 with Kernel trap.
Twice I've installed what I believe is the correct Apple Service Diagnostic disk and ran a full test. All tests passed except both times it failed the hard drive test, indicating no S.M.A.R.T. status available, and it wouldn't test the memory either time, it would just hang for nearly an hour. Both times I had to restart and bypass that test. According to Disk Utility S.M.A.R.T. status is verified for the disk. After 3 startups I checked system profiler, it always indicated that upon startup memory passed.
Then several day ago I had to forcibly shut it down once again, upon restart no display. Tried restarting several times, sometimes I would get the startup chime, other times not. After each restart no display, not even a dimmed display. Then I thought how about a PRAM reset. So I held down command-option-
The ASD disk is still in the drive, can't eject it.
The power supply is working fine, seems to be plenty of power to the laptop, amber light is on until the battery is charged. Both batteries I've tried show all green lights.
Any hints or opinions on what I should try next? Certain key strokes, or tests I can run to find out if the laptop actually died?
No smoke or flame from the laptop......
Dan
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