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- Re: What About this Reported Trojan? From: Tod Hopkins
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- Re: What About this Reported Trojan? From: Tod Hopkins
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- Re: What About this Reported Trojan? From: Randy B. Singer
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- Re: What About this Reported Trojan? From: Michael P. Stupinski
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- Security products for the Macintosh From: John Richardson
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- Re: What About this Reported Trojan? From: N.A. Nada
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- Re: What About this Reported Trojan? From: Randy B. Singer
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- Re: What About this Reported Trojan? From: Tod Hopkins
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- Re: What About this Reported Trojan? From: Jim Showalter
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- Re: Where did the files go? (iTunes) From: Denver Dan
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- Re: Where did the files go? (iTunes) From: N.A. Nada
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- Re: Where did the files go? (iTunes) From: HAL9000
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- Re: 2007 iMac to 2012 iMac From: Tight Guy
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- Re: 2007 iMac to 2012 iMac From: Alan Fry
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- Re: 2007 iMac to 2012 iMac From: Jim Saklad
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- Re: 2007 iMac to 2012 iMac From: N.A. Nada
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- Re: 2007 iMac to 2012 iMac From: Jim Saklad
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- Re: 2007 iMac to 2012 iMac From: Tim O'Donoghue
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- Re: 2007 iMac to 2012 iMac From: Tim O'Donoghue
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Re: What About this Reported Trojan?
Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com todhop
Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:18 am (PDT)
On Apr 23, 2012, at 5:25 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
> Apparently it can infect the Mac OS
We need to escape the pervasive idea that Macs are invulnerable to malware. This has never been true. Historically, Mac users were rarely targeted, simply because it was not worth anyone's effort. But they have been targeted successfully, as far back as malware has existed.
The current Mac user is JUST as vulnerable to attack as any other computer user. Mac users have become extremely tempting targets. It is clear that malware writers are working on exploits specific to Mac users.
Personally, I expect an "exploit" reaching at least 100,000 Mac users within the year, though we may in fact see an iOS exploit first.
Cheers,
tod
Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins-at-hillmanncarr. com
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Re: What About this Reported Trojan?
Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com todhop
Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:24 am (PDT)
Silly me. The reported numbers for "Flashback" have already broken 500,000 and counting. Yes, the recent hole was closed (on 10.5-.7). Yes, it will reopen. So why is no one panicked? Because so far, the entity responsible has not done anything bad enough to attract much attention. They will.
Cheers,
tod
On Apr 24, 2012, at 9:18 AM, Tod Hopkins wrote:
> On Apr 23, 2012, at 5:25 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
> > Apparently it can infect the Mac OS
>
> We need to escape the pervasive idea that Macs are invulnerable to malware. This has never been true. Historically, Mac users were rarely targeted, simply because it was not worth anyone's effort. But they have been targeted successfully, as far back as malware has existed.
>
> The current Mac user is JUST as vulnerable to attack as any other computer user. Mac users have become extremely tempting targets. It is clear that malware writers are working on exploits specific to Mac users.
>
> Personally, I expect an "exploit" reaching at least 100,000 Mac users within the year, though we may in fact see an iOS exploit first.
>
> Cheers,
> tod
>
> Tod Hopkins
> Hillmann & Carr Inc.
> todhopkins-at-hillmanncarr. com
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins-at-hillmanncarr. com
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Re: What About this Reported Trojan?
Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com randybrucesinger
Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:56 am (PDT)
On Apr 24, 2012, at 6:18 AM, Tod Hopkins wrote:
> We need to escape the pervasive idea that Macs are invulnerable to
> malware.
I've never heard a Mac user say that. Not even newbies who don't
really understand computers. The only folks that I've heard say that
have been Windows bigots, who claim that Mac users say that.
>
> The current Mac user is JUST as vulnerable to attack as any other
> computer user.
Well, let's see...
Windows has *over a million* pieces of malware!!!:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/ 2/hi/technology/ 7340315.stm
and there over 95,000 new threats for Windows *every single day*!!!
http://www.sophos.com/security/ topic/security- threat-report- 2011.html
By comparison, even after Flashback, which exploited a Java
vulnerability that Apple has since patched (or users can just turn
Java off), there are still no actual "viruses" for the Mac (defined
as self-propagating malware) and only a handful of other types of
malware (much of it being of little or no concern to users as they
have either never worked properly, they were never widely
disseminated, and/or there have been patches to the OS to protect
against them):
http://www.reedcorner.net/guides/ macvirus/ malware_catalog. php
The numbers, over a million compared to about a 20, kind of argue
against the Mac being highly vulnerable to malware, don't they?
Though the press has made it sound as if Mac users have been deluged
by malware recently, I've found it almost impossible to find anyone
first hand who has been infected, even though I've communicated with
well over 20,000 Mac users in my user group and on about a dozen e-
mail discussion lists. Has even a single person on this very
discussion list ever encountered malware for OS X?
To this day there is still shockingly little malware for the Mac, and
the Mac running recent versions of OS X is an impressively secure
personal computing platform. This is what the press said with the
introduction of Lion:
Experts: OS X now much more secure than rivals
http://www.macnn.com/articles/ 11/07/23/ leapfrogs. windows.
7.linux.but.still.not. perfect/
or
http://is.gd/20R6VD
Lion Security: Building on the iOS Foundation
http://tidbits.com/article/ 12417
"...we have security options never before available to consumers"
Major overhaul makes OS X Lion king of security
http://www.theregister.co.uk/ 2011/07/21/ mac_os_x_ lion_security/
So, is the Mac "just as vulnerable to attack" as other computers? I
find that statement indefensible based on the facts.
> Mac users have become extremely tempting targets. It is clear that
> malware writers are working on exploits specific to Mac users.
Malware writers have *always* been interested in the Mac. Probably
even more so years ago than today. Recently they finally found
something to exploit: Java. That route has been closed. I don't see
any evidence that they are going to be finding another.
> Personally, I expect an "exploit" reaching at least 100,000 Mac
> users within the year, though we may in fact see an iOS exploit first.
Interesting bit of paranoia. How are they going to exploit iOS? All
of the software that you can put on an iOS device has to be vetted by
Apple first. iOS devices don't use Flash or Java. How is malware
going to find its way onto an iOS device?
_____________________ _________ _________ ____
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts. html
_____________________ _________ _________ ____
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Re: What About this Reported Trojan?
Posted by: "Michael P. Stupinski" mpstupinski@snet.net mstupinski
Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:28 am (PDT)
On this topic, I really wonder what data (if any) would lead anyone to
the conclusion that 500,000, or 100,000 (or just about any number at
all) Macs have been successfully hit by a piece of malware. Who is
collecting the individual reports from people who have been hit?
Hmmmm....
.........Mike
On Apr 24, 2012, at 11:56 AM, Randy B. Singer wrote:
>
> On Apr 24, 2012, at 6:18 AM, Tod Hopkins wrote:
>
>> We need to escape the pervasive idea that Macs are invulnerable to
>> malware.
>
> I've never heard a Mac user say that. Not even newbies who don't
> really understand computers. The only folks that I've heard say that
> have been Windows bigots, who claim that Mac users say that.
>
>>
>> The current Mac user is JUST as vulnerable to attack as any other
>> computer user.
>
> Well, let's see...
>
> Windows has *over a million* pieces of malware!!!:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/ 2/hi/technology/ 7340315.stm
> and there over 95,000 new threats for Windows *every single day*!!!
> http://www.sophos.com/security/ topic/security- threat-report- 2011.html
>
> By comparison, even after Flashback, which exploited a Java
> vulnerability that Apple has since patched (or users can just turn
> Java off), there are still no actual "viruses" for the Mac (defined
> as self-propagating malware) and only a handful of other types of
> malware (much of it being of little or no concern to users as they
> have either never worked properly, they were never widely
> disseminated, and/or there have been patches to the OS to protect
> against them):
> http://www.reedcorner.net/guides/ macvirus/ malware_catalog. php
>
> The numbers, over a million compared to about a 20, kind of argue
> against the Mac being highly vulnerable to malware, don't they?
>
> Though the press has made it sound as if Mac users have been deluged
> by malware recently, I've found it almost impossible to find anyone
> first hand who has been infected, even though I've communicated with
> well over 20,000 Mac users in my user group and on about a dozen e-
> mail discussion lists. Has even a single person on this very
> discussion list ever encountered malware for OS X?
>
> To this day there is still shockingly little malware for the Mac, and
> the Mac running recent versions of OS X is an impressively secure
> personal computing platform. This is what the press said with the
> introduction of Lion:
>
> Experts: OS X now much more secure than rivals
> http://www.macnn.com/articles/ 11/07/23/ leapfrogs. windows.
> 7.linux.but.still.not. perfect/
> or
> http://is.gd/20R6VD
>
> Lion Security: Building on the iOS Foundation
> http://tidbits.com/article/ 12417
> "...we have security options never before available to consumers"
>
> Major overhaul makes OS X Lion king of security
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/ 2011/07/21/ mac_os_x_ lion_security/
>
> So, is the Mac "just as vulnerable to attack" as other computers? I
> find that statement indefensible based on the facts.
>
>> Mac users have become extremely tempting targets. It is clear that
>> malware writers are working on exploits specific to Mac users.
>
> Malware writers have *always* been interested in the Mac. Probably
> even more so years ago than today. Recently they finally found
> something to exploit: Java. That route has been closed. I don't see
> any evidence that they are going to be finding another.
>
>
>> Personally, I expect an "exploit" reaching at least 100,000 Mac
>> users within the year, though we may in fact see an iOS exploit
>> first.
>
> Interesting bit of paranoia. How are they going to exploit iOS? All
> of the software that you can put on an iOS device has to be vetted by
> Apple first. iOS devices don't use Flash or Java. How is malware
> going to find its way onto an iOS device?
>
> _____________________ _________ _________ ____
> Randy B. Singer
> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
>
> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
> http://www.macattorney.com/ts. html
> _____________________ _________ _________ ____
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Security products for the Macintosh
Posted by: "John Richardson" richards@spawar.navy.mil
Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:31 am (PDT)
Hello,
Is there an updated ranking of Macintosh security products? Macworld
magazine rankings? Others?
John F. Richardson
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Re: What About this Reported Trojan?
Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net
Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:59 am (PDT)
I, for one have never been deluded into thinking that Macs are invulnerable to malware. But not all malware written for other OS will infect a Mac. That Apple moved to the Intel processor has increased the vulnerability, but it was still a good move.
The chance of infection by malware was previously lower, the same as the rewards are lower if you have the choice of stealing a donation jar, compared to robbing bank. There is more money in the bank. It is more likely that you will encounter a bank robbery than someone stealing a donation jar at the local convenience store.
With Apple taking more market share for computers and moving to a more common processor, and so many users not using AV, they are becoming more like a bank, that a donation jar.
Early on, in my use of computers (a Mac in fact), I was infected, once. It was the Word macro malware, from a transferred file. Norton AV caught it when I opened the file.
You have been out of the loop if you missed the frenzy with the recent Flashback release. Last report I saw was the infections are down to 140,00 within a week or two. And BTW, AV software for Mac have had a huge jump in sales.
The only computer not susceptible to malware, that I can imagine, is one that has no external power source, wrapped in a Faraday cage, encased in concrete and is not accessible by any human or other machine. In other words, none that currently exist for practical reasons.
Brent
On Apr 24, 2012, at 6:24 AM, Tod Hopkins wrote:
> Silly me. The reported numbers for "Flashback" have already broken 500,000 and counting. Yes, the recent hole was closed (on 10.5-.7). Yes, it will reopen. So why is no one panicked? Because so far, the entity responsible has not done anything bad enough to attract much attention. They will.
>
> Cheers,
> tod
>
> On Apr 24, 2012, at 9:18 AM, Tod Hopkins wrote:
>
>> On Apr 23, 2012, at 5:25 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
>>> Apparently it can infect the Mac OS
>>
>> We need to escape the pervasive idea that Macs are invulnerable to malware. This has never been true. Historically, Mac users were rarely targeted, simply because it was not worth anyone's effort. But they have been targeted successfully, as far back as malware has existed.
>>
>> The current Mac user is JUST as vulnerable to attack as any other computer user. Mac users have become extremely tempting targets. It is clear that malware writers are working on exploits specific to Mac users.
>>
>> Personally, I expect an "exploit" reaching at least 100,000 Mac users within the year, though we may in fact see an iOS exploit first.
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Re: What About this Reported Trojan?
Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com randybrucesinger
Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:34 am (PDT)
On Apr 24, 2012, at 10:59 AM, N.A. Nada wrote:
> That Apple moved to the Intel processor has increased the
> vulnerability, but it was still a good move.
The fact that Apple moved to Intel processors is irrelevant to the
malware situation.
Malware isn't written for processors. It's written for operating
systems.
_____________________ _________ _________ ____
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts. html
_____________________ _________ _________ ____
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Re: What About this Reported Trojan?
Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com todhop
Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:49 pm (PDT)
On Apr 24, 2012, at 2:34 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote:
> Malware isn't written for processors. It's written for operating
> systems.
Actually, they can work at the machine level and be OS independent.
Cheers,
tod
Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins-at-hillmanncarr. com
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Re: What About this Reported Trojan?
Posted by: "Jim Showalter" jshowalt@mindspring.com jshowalt94127
Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:40 pm (PDT)
On Apr 24, 2012, at 12:48 PM, Tod Hopkins wrote:
> On Apr 24, 2012, at 2:34 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote:
>> Malware isn't written for processors. It's written for operating
>> systems.
>
>
> Actually, they can work at the machine level and be OS independent.
>
Please provide an example.
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Re: Where did the files go? (iTunes)
Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net denverdan22180
Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:30 am (PDT)
Howdy.
Dave, check a couple of things listed below. Maybe they will bring
something to light.
1. Check iTunes Preferences>General and see what things are set to do
and show.
- Show items checked?
- Import Settings button just to check what it's set to do.
2. Check the Advanced item in Preferences and see what's checked on.
I've found that an occasional re-do of the iTunes Media folder location
can help some problems. Re-doing this but with the identical location
and settings seems to cause a checking of links to songs. I keep my
iTunes library on a dual drive mirrored RAID on a NAS drive so both
iTunes and the household Sonos system can access it 24/7. Sometimes
the RAID drive might get shut down before it should be, or, a power
problem may shut it down and this type of shut down seems to distrupt
some links causing iTunes to report it can't find the song file. The
Reset of location (to same location) can fix this. On my system this
takes a long time because it's over slower Ethernet and because there
are 25,000 songs on the RAID drive.
3. In the main iTunes window, click the View menu, then View Options.
You may have already done this but it's worth mentioning.
Turn on the Date Added column.
I find this to be very convenient to have in view when I'm ripping
audio CDs into iTunes. I can click the Date Added column to have
iTunes instantly sort all new additions at the top of the music library
where I can check them to be sure the info is correct. I may need to
use Get Info in iTunes to edit/add some info or to turn on the
appropriate equalizer setting, as an example.
Note that you can also move the visible columns in the music library
window so they appear in an order more convenient for you. Just drag
them by the column title like you would drag a data column in a Finder
window to re-order the columns.
Hope you get this problem solved!
Denver Dan
On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 23:39:03 -0700, DaveC wrote:
> I wouldn't ask but I have no idea where they went.
>
> I dragged a dozen .m4a audio files from Finder into the main iTunes
> window. There appeared a small window with small progress bar and the
> file name currently being copied. Each of the file names appeared in
> the box as iTunes apparently worked its way through the list,
> copying(?) them.
>
> Then... nothing.
>
> I do not see the files anywhere. I typed the names in the search
> field in the upper right corner of the main window. No results.
>
> I do not see them listed in alphabetical order. Nor if I list by date
> (looking for today's date). They are not in any of the subfolders
> (pod casts, etc.).
>
> I trashed the 3 iTunes prefs files and restarted. No joy.
>
> I trashed iTunes and installed a copy downloaded from Apple. No joy.
>
> I rebooted and ran AppleJack (normally a weekly task). No joy.
>
> I hope it's something simple...
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
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Re: Where did the files go? (iTunes)
Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net
Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:21 am (PDT)
Do you know that it will only search the library that you are currently in? And that when dragging and dropping media into iTunes it sometimes sets the media type wrong.
If there is some corruption in the file, it may not copy it into iTunes.
Trashing pref files will not find them. That is voodoo.
Running AppleJack does nothing more than rebooting, since the reboot runs fsck. Voodoo again.
Search each Library, and start with Music. When you find them, Get Info and check the Media Type and correct it if needed. That will put it into the correct Library. If you chose the wrong Media Typpe, even though you found it, when you sync with an iDevice, it will not transfer and will not play on the iDevice.
On Apr 23, 2012, at 11:39 PM, DaveC wrote:
> I wouldn't ask but I have no idea where they went.
>
> I dragged a dozen .m4a audio files from Finder into the main iTunes
> window. There appeared a small window with small progress bar and the
> file name currently being copied. Each of the file names appeared in
> the box as iTunes apparently worked its way through the list,
> copying(?) them.
>
> Then... nothing.
>
> I do not see the files anywhere. I typed the names in the search
> field in the upper right corner of the main window. No results.
>
> I do not see them listed in alphabetical order. Nor if I list by date
> (looking for today's date). They are not in any of the subfolders
> (pod casts, etc.).
>
> I trashed the 3 iTunes prefs files and restarted. No joy.
>
> I trashed iTunes and installed a copy downloaded from Apple. No joy.
>
> I rebooted and ran AppleJack (normally a weekly task). No joy.
>
> I hope it's something simple...
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Re: Where did the files go? (iTunes)
Posted by: "HAL9000" jrswebhome@yahoo.com jrswebhome
Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:32 pm (PDT)
I always choose to list by DATE ADDED when working w newly acquired music/media files. Make sure you manually scroll to the top of the window.
But you may have already done that. Are they defined as music or books or TV Show?
iTunes doesn't have an issue w doing multiple files. Is the processor you are using fast enough and supplied w maxed RAM? Just my opinion though. jr
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups. , DaveC <davec2468@.com ..> wrote:
>
> I wouldn't ask but I have no idea where they went.
>
> I dragged a dozen .m4a audio files from Finder into the main iTunes
> window. There appeared a small window with small progress bar and the
> file name currently being copied. Each of the file names appeared in
> the box as iTunes apparently worked its way through the list,
> copying(?) them.
>
> Then... nothing.
>
> I do not see the files anywhere. I typed the names in the search
> field in the upper right corner of the main window. No results.
>
> I do not see them listed in alphabetical order. Nor if I list by date
> (looking for today's date). They are not in any of the subfolders
> (pod casts, etc.).
>
> I trashed the 3 iTunes prefs files and restarted. No joy.
>
> I trashed iTunes and installed a copy downloaded from Apple. No joy.
>
> I rebooted and ran AppleJack (normally a weekly task). No joy.
>
> I hope it's something simple...
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
> --
> 2011 Mac mini 2.7 GHz i7 / 4 GB / 750 GB
> OS X 10.6.8 (yes, Snow Leopard)
> iTunes 10.6.1
>
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Re: 2007 iMac to 2012 iMac
Posted by: "Tight Guy" jcrowe@jcrowe.net jcrowe1950
Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:42 am (PDT)
Hi Keith, et al,
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups. , Keith Whaley <keith_w@...com >
wrote:
>
> I'm thinking of upgrading my Fall 2007 iMac, with OS 10.6.8, to a new
> iMac with OS 7.whatever version of Lion that is.
>
> Is there a site where I can find out which of my apps and such may not
> work with Lion?
As others have noted, your PowerPC apps will no longer work.
If you have any of those that you'd rather not lose access to, you
could consider making your new iMac into a dual boot machine in
which you can install a copy of Snow Leopard with Rosetta on one
partition of your drive and leave Lion in the primary partition. I have
recently done this with both my 2010 iMac and my newly acquired
early 2011 Macbook Pro. It took some research but for me it was
well worth the effort to simply have access to apps like Canvas 9.
As always, YMMV.
>
> I haven't paid attention in the recent past because I wasn't planning
to
> move up soon.
> Now I face that possibility and am looking for info.
>
> Many thanks...
>
> keith whaley
Best of luck in your efforts. FWIW, my new MacBook Pro benchmarks
about 10% faster under Snow Leopard than under Lion. I have made two
upgrades that are nice.....doubled ram at 8GBytes and a 6G SATA SSD for
the original hard drive, which I now use for backup via Super Duper and
Time Machine.
Tight Guy [B-)]
>
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Re: 2007 iMac to 2012 iMac
Posted by: "Alan Fry" ajf@afco.demon.co.uk alanjohnfry
Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:26 am (PDT)
On 24 Apr 2012, at 00:17, Jim Saklad wrote:
> >> Take a look at this....Jim
> >> http://roaringapps.com/apps: table
> >
> > Most excellent! Many thanks for the informative list.
> > More than 28 pages of apps titles! Is it _really_ going to be that difficult and time consuming to clean things up for the inauguration of Lion?
> > keith
>
> Keep in mind that all that will happen to apps that don't work under Lion is just that: they won't work. Or even start up.
>
> They won't cause any other problems with the computer or with the OS, they just won't work.
>
> You could eve leave them alone entirely, and ignore them. Or delete them only when you happen to run across one that doesn't work.
>
> I would think it possible that an Automator script could be created that searched for such apps, and moved them all to the same directory for you, but I haven't a clue how to do that.
>
Nor me, but I do have a small application which lists applications in 3 files: 32bitIntel.txt , 64bitIntel.txt and PowerPC.txt., giving the full path name for each. The application may be set to search specific folders.
With a small modification PPC applications could be not only listed but also moved into a new location.
It is freely available to anyone who would like to try it.
Alan Fry
> My own task was made easier by my habit of segregating all 3rd-party applications to a separate directory from the Apple applications.
>
> That said, what I did was create a list of the non-Intel, non-Universal apps using System Information, edited it down to just name and path, and slogged through the list, deleting.
>
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Re: 2007 iMac to 2012 iMac
Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com jimdoc01
Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:41 am (PDT)
> system_profiler SPApplicationsDataType | grep -A4 PowerPC > ~/Desktop/ Applications_ Report.txt
>
> Randy, I ran this command (eliminating the line break, of course) and got this message in Terminal, followed by the prompt:
> .....
Daly --
I ran it as posted by you and got:
> -bash: /Users/jimdoc/Desktop/: Is a directory
I then eliminated the space before "Applications" and re-ran it, and it quickly generated the correct file in the correct place.
In my case, the file was empty, because I had already eliminated all those applications.
--
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
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Re: 2007 iMac to 2012 iMac
Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net
Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:34 am (PDT)
Out of curiosity, did you run that in Lion or Snow Leopard?
Note that it starts with system_profiler and so must be run in 10.6.
I tried changing that to system_information, and got back "command not found".
On Apr 24, 2012, at 5:46 AM, Daly Jessup wrote:
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> On Apr 24, 2012, at 5:18 AM, Randy B. Singer wrote:
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>> If you would like to generate a text file that lists all of the
>> PowerPC applications on your hard drive, complete with the path to
>> get to each of these applications, copy and paste this line into the
>> Terminal application (in your ~/Applications/Utlities folder), hit
>> return, and then be patient and let it run for a few minutes before
>> opening the text file that will instantly be generated on the desktop.
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> system_profiler SPApplicationsDataType | grep -A4 PowerPC > ~/Desktop/ Applications_ Report.txt
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> Randy, I ran this command (eliminating the line break, of course) and got this message in Terminal, followed by the prompt:
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> SystemFlippers: didn't consume all data for vers ID 1 (pBase = 0x7fd16232f1b0, p = 0x7fd16232f1e5, pEnd = 0x7fd16232f1e6)
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> SystemFlippers: didn't consume all data for vers ID 1 (pBase = 0x7fd16237c6f0, p = 0x7fd16237c709, pEnd = 0x7fd16237c70a)
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> SystemFlippers: didn't consume all data for DLOG ID 5025 (pBase = 0x7fd163c8c880, p = 0x7fd163c8c898, pEnd = 0x7fd163c8ca40)
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> CoreEndianFlipData: error -4940 returned for rsrc type DITL (id 134, length 125, native = no)
> SystemFlippers: didn't consume all data for vers ID 1 (pBase = 0x7fd163c85d60, p = 0x7fd163c85d8f, pEnd = 0x7fd163c85d90)
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> SystemFlippers: didn't consume all data for vers ID 1 (pBase = 0x7fd163d30260, p = 0x7fd163d30295, pEnd = 0x7fd163d30296)
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> Do you have any idea what it is talking about and what the problem might be? This sounded like a really handy thing to know about, if it will work.
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> Daly
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Re: 2007 iMac to 2012 iMac
Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com jimdoc01
Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:26 pm (PDT)
> Out of curiosity, did you run that in Lion or Snow Leopard?
> Note that it starts with system_profiler and so must be run in 10.6.
It runs perfectly well on my Lion machine.
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Re: 2007 iMac to 2012 iMac
Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net
Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:04 pm (PDT)
When I ran it on mine with Lion, I got either "command not found" or another prompt
I'm not a big Terminal user, and it is in bash.
On Apr 24, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:
> > Out of curiosity, did you run that in Lion or Snow Leopard?
> > Note that it starts with system_profiler and so must be run in 10.6.
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> It runs perfectly well on my Lion machine.
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Re: 2007 iMac to 2012 iMac
Posted by: "Tim O'Donoghue" tjod@drizzle.net timodonoghue
Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:08 pm (PDT)
Works fine in Lion on my MBP, but only after following Jim's note about the removal of the spaces before "\ Application"
Found an old plug-in for PSE that I'd missed removing earlier.
On Apr 24, 2012, at 2:04 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
> When I ran it on mine with Lion, I got either "command not found" or another prompt
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> I'm not a big Terminal user, and it is in bash.
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> On Apr 24, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:
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>>> Out of curiosity, did you run that in Lion or Snow Leopard?
>>> Note that it starts with system_profiler and so must be run in 10.6.
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>> It runs perfectly well on my Lion machine.
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Re: 2007 iMac to 2012 iMac
Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net
Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:15 pm (PDT)
What is PSE?
On Apr 24, 2012, at 2:07 PM, Tim O'Donoghue wrote:
> Works fine in Lion on my MBP, but only after following Jim's note about the removal of the spaces before "\ Application"
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> Found an old plug-in for PSE that I'd missed removing earlier.
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Re: 2007 iMac to 2012 iMac
Posted by: "Tim O'Donoghue" tjod@drizzle.net timodonoghue
Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:18 pm (PDT)
Photoshop Elements.
On Apr 24, 2012, at 2:15 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
> What is PSE?
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> On Apr 24, 2012, at 2:07 PM, Tim O'Donoghue wrote:
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>> Works fine in Lion on my MBP, but only after following Jim's note about the removal of the spaces before "\ Application"
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>> Found an old plug-in for PSE that I'd missed removing earlier.
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Re: airbook
Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com jimdoc01
Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:30 am (PDT)
> Would anyone happen to have a Mac airbook that they want to sell?
> We need one urgently.
> Josephine Bacon
Did you know you can buy refurbished products from Apple, with full AppleCare warranty available, with same-day shipping, for good discounts (e.g., 15%)?
<http://store.apple.com/ >us/browse/ home/specialdeal s/mac/macbook_ air
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Email "people"
Posted by: "chemist_ken" chemist_ken@yahoo.com chemist_ken
Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:05 pm (PDT)
When I compose an email message (using Apple Mail) and start typing the name of an addressee in the to section (or CC, or BCC) I get a large number of "people" to send it to and then I choose the one I want. Many of the choices are not in my contacts list. How do I remove people from my email list?
Ken Klein
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Re: Email "people"
Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com nikyzf
Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:23 pm (PDT)
I think these are in Mail > Window > Previous Recipients. You can select
and delete them there.
Otto
On 24 April 2012 20:05, chemist_ken <chemist_ken@yahoo.com > wrote:
> When I compose an email message (using Apple Mail) and start typing the
> name of an addressee in the to section (or CC, or BCC) I get a large number
> of "people" to send it to and then I choose the one I want. Many of the
> choices are not in my contacts list. How do I remove people from my email
> list?
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Re: Email "people"
Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com jimdoc01
Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:24 pm (PDT)
> When I compose an email message (using Apple Mail) and start typing the name of an addressee in the to section (or CC, or BCC) I get a large number of "people" to send it to and then I choose the one I want. Many of the choices are not in my contacts list. How do I remove people from my email list?
> Ken Klein
This comes up about every 2 months or so.
Which is not to say it is even an inappropriate question, however.
<http://www.math.ku.edu/computing >/applemail_ removeaddress. html
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