Messages In This Digest (12 Messages)
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- Re: Keyboard strikes From: Pabitra Saha
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- Re: Keyboard strikes From: Sanjaya Kanoria
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- Re: Keyboard strikes From: N.A. Nada
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- Re: Keyboard strikes From: Jim Saklad
- 1.5.
- Re: Keyboard strikes From: Jim Saklad
- 1.6.
- Re: Keyboard strikes From: lwr32
- 2a.
- Re: Rearrange contacts in groups From: Roger Prokic
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- How to delete TV show from iPad From: Carol
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- Print from iPad with no computer From: Allison P. Deaton
- 5a.
- Time iPhone to wake up? From: sandyinwi
- 5b.
- Re: Time iPhone to wake up? From: Archie C Grapa
- 5c.
- Re: Time iPhone to wake up? From: Yahoo
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Re: Keyboard strikes
Posted by: "Pabitra Saha" pksaha000@yahoo.co.uk pksaha000
Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:10 am (PDT)
No. When you dictate to Siri, your sound file is recorded and sent to Apple server. It is converted into text there and sent back. The sound file is kept there at the server and modern biometric forensic techniques can locate you from sound sample with more than 94% accuracy.
That is the reason why many countries insist on your voice recording when you apply for visa.
Best
On 22 Apr 2012, at 16:01, Sanjaya Kanoria <wsbunter@gmail.com > wrote:
> If you dictate a message into your iPhone using SIRI no human being is listening to it. It's the software which is writing down what you're speaking into your phone. However ALL of your data on the phone can be accessed by the gentlemen at apple if you're using iCloud to backup! Similarly whenever you send an email your host (gmail, yahoo etc) is privy to all you're sending. The police have access to these computers and do actually use them to trace terrorists etc. Indubitably, the moment one uses an electronic communication medium privacy is lost.
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> On 22-Apr-2012, at 12:44 AM, lwr32 <whiterabbit32@gmail.com > wrote:
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> > Talking to your iPhone using Siri is not private like typing is. I have an iPad 3 gen with dictation. Haven't used it. I don't want my side of messages of any sort being listened to by people it doesn't concern. Sound reasonable?
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> > > If you have the iPhone 4 S use the Siri to dictate messages it's much faster much more convenient and almost magical!
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> > > DICTATED USING SIRI!
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> > > > Mine always does. I never knew it can be switched off.
> > > > Are we talking iPhone here?
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> > > > On Apr 20, 2012, at 11:37, Joan Clarke <lvjesse@yahoo.com > wrote:
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> > > > > My keys show a popup of the letters as I type them. This has never happened before, don't what I touched. I found nothing in settings to fix this. Also the typing speed is slow. This happened when I replied to an email.
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Re: Keyboard strikes
Posted by: "Sanjaya Kanoria" wsbunter@gmail.com zixxwr
Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:43 am (PDT)
This is news to me. However that being so how do we know that apple or the service provider is not secretly recording our telephone conversations and keeping recorded samples of our voices? already using triangulation almost the exact location of any individual using a cellphone at any point in the past several days can be traced so one is completely losing all privacy the moment one uses such such an instrument. Wouldn't you agree?
On 23-Apr-2012, at 12:18 PM, Pabitra Saha <pksaha000@yahoo.co.uk > wrote:
> No. When you dictate to Siri, your sound file is recorded and sent to Apple server. It is converted into text there and sent back. The sound file is kept there at the server and modern biometric forensic techniques can locate you from sound sample with more than 94% accuracy.
> That is the reason why many countries insist on your voice recording when you apply for visa.
> Best
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> On 22 Apr 2012, at 16:01, Sanjaya Kanoria <wsbunter@gmail.com > wrote:
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> > If you dictate a message into your iPhone using SIRI no human being is listening to it. It's the software which is writing down what you're speaking into your phone. However ALL of your data on the phone can be accessed by the gentlemen at apple if you're using iCloud to backup! Similarly whenever you send an email your host (gmail, yahoo etc) is privy to all you're sending. The police have access to these computers and do actually use them to trace terrorists etc. Indubitably, the moment one uses an electronic communication medium privacy is lost.
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> > On 22-Apr-2012, at 12:44 AM, lwr32 <whiterabbit32@gmail.com > wrote:
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> > > Talking to your iPhone using Siri is not private like typing is. I have an iPad 3 gen with dictation. Haven't used it. I don't want my side of messages of any sort being listened to by people it doesn't concern. Sound reasonable?
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> > > 🐰 Alice
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> > > On Apr 20, 2012, at 10:48 PM, Sanjaya Kanoria <wsbunter@gmail.com > wrote:
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> > > > If you have the iPhone 4 S use the Siri to dictate messages it's much faster much more convenient and almost magical!
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> > > > DICTATED USING SIRI!
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> > > > On 20-Apr-2012, at 5:09 PM, Archie C Grapa <archiegrapa@yahoo.com > wrote:
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> > > > > Mine always does. I never knew it can be switched off.
> > > > > Are we talking iPhone here?
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> > > > > On Apr 20, 2012, at 11:37, Joan Clarke <lvjesse@yahoo.com > wrote:
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Re: Keyboard strikes
Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net
Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:18 am (PDT)
FUD! Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt!
Did you see the stink that went up when innocent tracking that Apple did using the locating service? Apple is not tracking you. If your government is using a program like Carnivore or NarusInsight, then you have bigger problems.
With some countries either trying to censor or shut down internet access, build a government controlled country-wide intranet, or forcing RIM to give them access to encrypted transmissions, I can understand some paranoia. These steps would take huge amounts of resources, but to monitor all communications and track all people, would take more resources.
Besides, if they were tracking all communications, the more there are the harder the job. Are they possibly doing it for select individuals. I have to use a currently overused term, terrorists, possibly, that is what Carnivore was designed for.
I have not heard of any country requiring a voice recording for a visa or admission. Give us an example Pabitra.
FUD.
the mildly paranoid, other Brent
On Apr 23, 2012, at 7:10 AM, Sanjaya Kanoria wrote:
> This is news to me. However that being so how do we know that apple or the service provider is not secretly recording our telephone conversations and keeping recorded samples of our voices? already using triangulation almost the exact location of any individual using a cellphone at any point in the past several days can be traced so one is completely losing all privacy the moment one uses such such an instrument. Wouldn't you agree?
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> On 23-Apr-2012, at 12:18 PM, Pabitra Saha <pksaha000@yahoo.co.uk > wrote:
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> > No. When you dictate to Siri, your sound file is recorded and sent to Apple server. It is converted into text there and sent back. The sound file is kept there at the server and modern biometric forensic techniques can locate you from sound sample with more than 94% accuracy.
> > That is the reason why many countries insist on your voice recording when you apply for visa.
> > Best
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> > On 22 Apr 2012, at 16:01, Sanjaya Kanoria <wsbunter@gmail.com > wrote:
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> > > If you dictate a message into your iPhone using SIRI no human being is listening to it. It's the software which is writing down what you're speaking into your phone. However ALL of your data on the phone can be accessed by the gentlemen at apple if you're using iCloud to backup! Similarly whenever you send an email your host (gmail, yahoo etc) is privy to all you're sending. The police have access to these computers and do actually use them to trace terrorists etc. Indubitably, the moment one uses an electronic communication medium privacy is lost.
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> > > On 22-Apr-2012, at 12:44 AM, lwr32 <whiterabbit32@gmail.com > wrote:
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> > > > Talking to your iPhone using Siri is not private like typing is. I have an iPad 3 gen with dictation. Haven't used it. I don't want my side of messages of any sort being listened to by people it doesn't concern. Sound reasonable?
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> > > > On Apr 20, 2012, at 10:48 PM, Sanjaya Kanoria <wsbunter@gmail.com > wrote:
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> > > > > If you have the iPhone 4 S use the Siri to dictate messages it's much faster much more convenient and almost magical!
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> > > > > DICTATED USING SIRI!
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> > > > > On 20-Apr-2012, at 5:09 PM, Archie C Grapa <archiegrapa@yahoo.com > wrote:
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Re: Keyboard strikes
Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com jimdoc01
Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:19 pm (PDT)
> ... modern biometric forensic techniques can locate you from sound sample with more than 94% accuracy.
Would you care to extrapolate on, for example, where you got this piece of fascinating ... lets call it "information"?
And how a sound sample on a computer server in North Carolina is going to locate me? Or you?
I mean, completely aside from the fact that I have chosen NOT to hide my location in any way, anyway.
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Re: Keyboard strikes
Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com jimdoc01
Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:20 pm (PDT)
>> When you dictate to Siri, your sound file is recorded and sent to Apple server. It is converted into text there and sent back. The sound file is kept there at the server and modern biometric forensic techniques can locate you from sound sample with more than 94% accuracy.
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> This is news to me. However that being so how do we know that apple or the service provider is not secretly recording our telephone conversations and keeping recorded samples of our voices?
You mean, for example, the phone call where a recording tells you "This phone call may be recorded for quality assurance purposes"? But you stayed on the phone anyway.
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Re: Keyboard strikes
Posted by: "lwr32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com lwr0032
Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:52 pm (PDT)
Sanjaya, I know Siri is a robot. I was speaking of those around us. I'm not the only one in my house LOL
🐰 Alice
On Apr 22, 2012, at 8:01 AM, Sanjaya Kanoria <wsbunter@gmail.com > wrote:
> If you dictate a message into your iPhone using SIRI no human being is listening to it. It's the software which is writing down what you're speaking into your phone. However ALL of your data on the phone can be accessed by the gentlemen at apple if you're using iCloud to backup! Similarly whenever you send an email your host (gmail, yahoo etc) is privy to all you're sending. The police have access to these computers and do actually use them to trace terrorists etc. Indubitably, the moment one uses an electronic communication medium privacy is lost.
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> On 22-Apr-2012, at 12:44 AM, lwr32 <whiterabbit32@gmail.com > wrote:
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> > Talking to your iPhone using Siri is not private like typing is. I have an iPad 3 gen with dictation. Haven't used it. I don't want my side of messages of any sort being listened to by people it doesn't concern. Sound reasonable?
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> > On Apr 20, 2012, at 10:48 PM, Sanjaya Kanoria <wsbunter@gmail.com > wrote:
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> > > If you have the iPhone 4 S use the Siri to dictate messages it's much faster much more convenient and almost magical!
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> > > DICTATED USING SIRI!
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> > > On 20-Apr-2012, at 5:09 PM, Archie C Grapa <archiegrapa@yahoo.com > wrote:
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> > > > Mine always does. I never knew it can be switched off.
> > > > Are we talking iPhone here?
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> > > > Archie
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> > > > On Apr 20, 2012, at 11:37, Joan Clarke <lvjesse@yahoo.com > wrote:
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Re: Rearrange contacts in groups
Posted by: "Roger Prokic" rprokic@me.com rprokic
Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:15 am (PDT)
I recommend an iPhone app called ContactsXL to manage contacts and groups.
On Apr 22, 2012, at 5:05 PM, Sanjaya Kanoria <wsbunter@gmail.com > wrote:
> I'd created my groups on the mac before syncing to the iPhone. Now that I don't sync contacts to the mac how do I know which new contacts are there and which group to put them into.
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> On 22-Apr-2012, at 9:40 PM, Susan Ferraglio <bladessf@aol.com > wrote:
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>> Hi Sanjaya - after you create all your groups and arrange things the way you want you can add and remove contacts directly in the iPhone contacts app no need to use the xl app. The groups are recreated in the basic iPhone contacts app.
>> When I want to add a new group I go back into xl
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>> Sue
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Apr 22, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Sanjaya Kanoria <wsbunter@gmail.com > wrote:
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>>> I downloaded it but don't know how to add and delete contacts from a grouo
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>>> On 20-Apr-2012, at 7:48 PM, Susan Ferraglio <bladessf@aol.com > wrote:
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>>>> I use contactsxl on the iPad. There is a contactsxl 1 and a 4 by the same company for the iPhone. I don't need the iPhone app because any changes I make on the iPad is synced to iTunes and then to the phone. Works great.
>>>> Sue
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>>>> On Apr 19, 2012, at 10:43 PM, Sanjaya Kanoria <wsbunter@gmail.com > wrote:
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>>>>> If I sync my contacts to a computer I get duplicates so I now only sync them to the iCloud. however I'd like to know how to arrange contacts in groups which was earlier possible only through the computer.
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How to delete TV show from iPad
Posted by: "Carol" floridabouvs@gmail.com floridabouvs
Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:44 am (PDT)
Out of curiosity, I downloaded a TV episode to my iPad. It took an incredibly long time to download and has taken a huge chunk of my Cloud space. Now I can't seem to get rid of it.
I have checked on line for ideas, but it doesn't show on iTunes yet so the suggestions there don't work. I'm hesitant to plug in my phone because I don't want it to take up residence there, also.
Questions:
1) Can I delete the TV show directly from my iPad? Or do I have to download it to iTunes first and delete there?
2) How can I stop items such as TV shows and music from being stored in the Cloud? I'd really rather just have them resident on the device to which they were loaded.
Thanks.
Carol
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Print from iPad with no computer
Posted by: "Allison P. Deaton" adeaton@papesinc.com allisondeaton2001
Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:11 am (PDT)
I need to be able to print from my iPad. I have a Brother Printer Model MFC J615W. It is not Air Print compatible.
I do not have a Mac and my home Windows PC is shot - but my daughter
does have a windows netbook.
I did get a Brother iprint and scan app - it will print PDF's and photos and webpages.
Is there a way to print from pages or numbers or other things?
If I did get an Airprint printer - is there a special router or other
hardware you need?
Thanks for any help.
Allison
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Time iPhone to wake up?
Posted by: "sandyinwi" sandywright11@gmail.com sandyinwi
Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:35 pm (PDT)
Here is a Q from my friend the B and B proprietor that I convinced to get a iPhone. What is the best advice?
" I have alerts set for mail and messages. The problem is that the alerts go off at 3 AM or sometimes earlier if insomniacs make reservations in the middle of the night. Does the iPhone have a sleep mode where it shuts down at a time of my choice and then wakes up at a set time? The BlackBerry will do this but the HTC does not."
Sandyinwi
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Re: Time iPhone to wake up?
Posted by: "Archie C Grapa" archiegrapa@yahoo.com archiegrapa
Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:03 pm (PDT)
He can easily switch it to silent before going to sleep.
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Here is a Q from my friend the B and B proprietor that I convinced to get a iPhone. What is the best advice?
" I have alerts set for mail and messages. The problem is that the alerts go off at 3 AM or sometimes earlier if insomniacs make reservations in the middle of the night.�Does the iPhone have a sleep mode where it shuts down at a time of my choice and then wakes up at a set time? The BlackBerry will do this but the HTC does not."
Sandyinwi
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Re: Time iPhone to wake up?
Posted by: "Yahoo" chelot921@yahoo.com chelot921
Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:19 pm (PDT)
While one could just switch to silent it is nice to have an app that does turn on and off automatically. I tend to forget to turn mine back on. When I had a droid there was an app called shush that was great. You told it how long to stay silent. It was great for meetings and movies and such. Can't find an app for my iPhone to to this. I think blackberry has a similar app.
If you ever find anything let the group (me) know.
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 23, 2012, at 9:18 PM, "Archie C Grapa" <archiegrapa@yahoo.com > wrote:
> He can easily switch it to silent before going to sleep.
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> From: "sandyinwi" <sandywright11@gmail.com >
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> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 00:24:41
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> Here is a Q from my friend the B and B proprietor that I convinced to get a iPhone. What is the best advice?
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> " I have alerts set for mail and messages. The problem is that the alerts go off at 3 AM or sometimes earlier if insomniacs make reservations in the middle of the night.�Does the iPhone have a sleep mode where it shuts down at a time of my choice and then wakes up at a set time? The BlackBerry will do this but the HTC does not."
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