6/06/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 8934

Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)

1a.
Re: apple mail 10.5.8 From: pat412255
1b.
Re: apple mail 10.5.8 From: N.A. Nada
1c.
Re: apple mail 10.5.8 From: Jim Smith
2a.
Re: iPad 2 not connecting to wireless network From: Jeff
3.1.
Re: motorcycles From: James Robertson
3.2.
Re: motorcycles From: Andrew Buc
3.3.
Re: motorcycles From: Lida Verner
3.4.
Re: motorcycles From: Bill Morton
3.5.
Re: motorcycles From: Barry Austern
4a.
Sticky track bar button workaround? From: Biglt
4b.
Re: Sticky track bar button workaround? From: Daly Jessup
5a.
Re: SSD and back to SL From: Doug Yelmen
5b.
Re: SSD and back to SL From: Doug Yelmen
5c.
Re: SSD and back to SL From: Doug Yelmen
5d.
Re: SSD and back to SL/that's what i get when i don't double check w From: Doug Yelmen
5e.
Re: SSD and back to SL From: Doug Yelmen
5f.
Re: SSD and back to SL From: Jim Saklad
5g.
Re: SSD and back to SL From: Jim Saklad
5h.
Re: SSD and back to SL From: Tight Guy
5i.
Re: SSD and back to SL From: Otto Nikolaus
6a.
Re: Bug in iTunes From: Otto Nikolaus
7a.
small Firewire network - other ideas? From: hpsbenbenek
7b.
Re: small Firewire network - other ideas? From: Otto Nikolaus
8.
[ADMIN] Re: [macsupport] motorcycles From: Otto Nikolaus
9a.
Re: Preview Problems. From: iris

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1a.

Re: apple mail 10.5.8

Posted by: "pat412255" pat412@mac.com   pat412255

Wed Jun 6, 2012 6:28 am (PDT)




Incoming and outgoing message activity:

Display the sidebar, if necessary, and then click the Show Mail Activity icon (looks like an up arrow) at the bottom to open the Mail Activity pane in the sidebar. To close the Mail Activity pane, click the Hide Mail Activity icon (looks like a down arrow).

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Elick" <ozlick39@...> wrote:
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> Is there a way to get a progress bar showing the receiving of email?
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Re: apple mail 10.5.8

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Wed Jun 6, 2012 2:25 pm (PDT)



Jim, just out of curiosity, why do you want to see this?

I just tried this feature and was bored to.... zzzz...

On Jun 6, 2012, at 6:28 AM, pat412255 wrote:

Incoming and outgoing message activity:

Display the sidebar, if necessary, and then click the Show Mail Activity icon (looks like an up arrow) at the bottom to open the Mail Activity pane in the sidebar. To close the Mail Activity pane, click the Hide Mail Activity icon (looks like a down arrow).

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Elick" <ozlick39@...> wrote:
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> Is there a way to get a progress bar showing the receiving of email?
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Re: apple mail 10.5.8

Posted by: "Jim Smith" jas1931@gmail.com   jimmacsmith

Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:22 pm (PDT)



I not the Jim that ask the question, wish I had.

Answer: Just because I can. (sometimes I click the "get mail" and it appears nothing happens. Now I have options.

Jim Smith
www.rvcarelogbook.com

On Jun 6, 2012, at 5:25 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:

> Jim, just out of curiosity, why do you want to see this?
>
> I just tried this feature and was bored to.... zzzz...
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> On Jun 6, 2012, at 6:28 AM, pat412255 wrote:
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>
> Incoming and outgoing message activity:
>
> Display the sidebar, if necessary, and then click the Show Mail Activity icon (looks like an up arrow) at the bottom to open the Mail Activity pane in the sidebar. To close the Mail Activity pane, click the Hide Mail Activity icon (looks like a down arrow).
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Elick" <ozlick39@...> wrote:
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>> Is there a way to get a progress bar showing the receiving of email?
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2a.

Re: iPad 2 not connecting to wireless network

Posted by: "Jeff" jbturof@yahoo.com   jbturof

Wed Jun 6, 2012 6:33 am (PDT)



Thanks Fred. I'm not by my iPad right now, but I'll give it a try later.

Jeff

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Fred Lux <feljr@...> wrote:
>
> Go to settings, then wi-fi. Click on the '>' to the far right of the network you're connected to. This opens a detail page about the network. At the top of the page is the 'forget this network' option. After clicking on this option, go back to the wi-fi page and reselect the network.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jun 6, 2012, at 8:12 AM, "Jeff" <jbturof@...> wrote:
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> >
> > Thanks for the suggestion.
> > Let me ask though, where does it say 'Forget this network'?
> > I saw that tip on some of my searching on the subject, but didn't see anywhere it was an option.
> > Let me know.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Jeff
> >
> > --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Vixpix <vixpix26@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Try clicking on "Forget this network" on your iPad. Then shut it off completely by holding the off key down until you see the red "shut down" (or something like that). Then on your main computer, unplug your router for a couple of minutes and then turn it back on. Then boot up the iPad and connect to your network (by re-typing it all back in again) and see if this helps.
> > >
> > > Vickie 
> > >
> > > Sent from a spoiled little iPad
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jun 5, 2012, at 7:13 PM, "Jeff" <jbturof@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yes...the network shows up right away when it's scanning.
> > > > When I enter the password, it gives me the message "Unable to join the network "name of my network" and only gives me the option to Dismiss.
> > > >
> > > > --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Vixpix <vixpix26@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Wow, you pretty much covered everything. Does your network show up automatically?
> > > > >
> > > > > Vickie 
> > > > >
> > > > > Sent from a spoiled little iPad
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Jun 5, 2012, at 9:19 AM, "Jeff" <jbturof@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi everyone.
> > > > > > I finally bought and set up my new quad-core i7 iMac.
> > > > > > So far...love it!
> > > > > > I set it up with Windows 7 via BootCamp which wasn't totally easy, but I eventually got it to work.
> > > > > > While I was configuring Windows to connect to my wireless network on the iMac (automatic with Mac OS, needed configuring on Windows 7), it asked me to set the password on the router. That's fine...it's something I've needed to do and now it's done.
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3.1.

Re: motorcycles

Posted by: "James Robertson" jamesrob@sonic.net   jamesrob328i

Wed Jun 6, 2012 7:14 am (PDT)




On Jun 6, 2012, at 6:04 AM, Budd T wrote:

> Budd is also, with two BMW K-75

If you have two, that's one more than you can ride. I'll help :-)

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3.2.

Re: motorcycles

Posted by: "Andrew Buc" andrewbuc@staxman.net   andrewbuc

Wed Jun 6, 2012 7:22 am (PDT)



You're not getting me on one of those things!

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3.3.

Re: motorcycles

Posted by: "Lida Verner" coffenut@gmail.com   coffenut20879

Wed Jun 6, 2012 7:23 am (PDT)



Suzuki C50 Boulevard
*--**
* *Lida Verner*
"*Creating Calm Out Of Chaos*"

http://www.candlelightdreams.com/blog
http://lidaverner.smugmug.com
http://www.twitter.com/lidaverner

On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Budd T <n7eoj@yahoo.com> wrote:

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> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "Randy B. Singer" <randy@...>
> wrote:
> <snip>
> > > What M/C do you ride and what list?
> >
> > Denver Dan is also a motorcyclist.
> >
> Budd is also, with two BMW K-75.
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3.4.

Re: motorcycles

Posted by: "Bill Morton" billmorton999@gmail.com   redpup99

Wed Jun 6, 2012 10:29 am (PDT)



BMW R75/6, 90K+ Miles

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3.5.

Re: motorcycles

Posted by: "Barry Austern" barryaus@fuse.net   barryaus

Wed Jun 6, 2012 12:49 pm (PDT)



Any chance we can stop this thread? There are many here (possibly
most) who think this is a Macintosh list, not a list to talk about
motorcycles.
Any moderators here to read this??
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net

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4a.

Sticky track bar button workaround?

Posted by: "Biglt" eltay3@yahoo.com   eltay3

Wed Jun 6, 2012 8:32 am (PDT)



I have a PowerBook G4, with a with a track bar button (sorry, I'm sure there is a more accurate description for what replaces the mouse button, I just can't remember it) that is intermittently fluky. I realize that I will ultimately - and metaphorically - need to take a rock and pound the cover off it to exorcise it's demons. In the meantime, is there some "keystroke" workaround? Something that will replace the function another way. I have a mouse on the way that should do the job, but that is just one more thing to carry.

Thanks,
Larry Taylor
PowerBook G4
1.5 GHz
2 GB SDRAM
10.5.8

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4b.

Re: Sticky track bar button workaround?

Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com   dalyjessup

Wed Jun 6, 2012 4:08 pm (PDT)




On Jun 6, 2012, at 8:32 AM, Biglt wrote:

> I have a PowerBook G4, with a with a track bar button (sorry, I'm sure there is a more accurate description for what replaces the mouse button, I just can't remember it) that is intermittently fluky. I realize that I will ultimately - and metaphorically - need to take a rock and pound the cover off it to exorcise it's demons. In the meantime, is there some "keystroke" workaround? Something that will replace the function another way. I have a mouse on the way that should do the job, but that is just one more thing to carry.

Are you saying the button is broken? What function are you trying to replace?

Daly
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5a.

Re: SSD and back to SL

Posted by: "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen@earthlink.net   dougyelmen

Wed Jun 6, 2012 11:04 am (PDT)



my iMac is a m27" Quad i7 and it came with SL. (mid-10).
i wouldn't think of you or anyone else who tried to help me or others.
so, thanks.

doug

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On Jun 6, 2012, at 12:24 AM, Christopher Collins wrote:

> Please don't think me a pain for suggesting this, but SL might not have drivers for the newer hardware in your 2011 iMac.
>
> If it came with Lion, it may be that only Lion has the correct drivers. I had this very problem with an MBA.
>
> I hope you can prove me wrong.
>
> cjc
>
> On 06/06/2012, at 1:46 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:
>
>>> I had been on 10.6.8 for a LONG time and was not only used to it but comfortable with it.
>>> Then, my wife talked me into exchanging my 5+ year old iMac with a new one. Whew! Even tho' I got an Apple refurb mid-2011, it's essentially brand new, but... it's got Lion (10.7.3 installed.) I'm not all that happy with it, I must say.
>>>
>>> I asked for it to be delivered with 10.6.8, but... as we all know, they will NOT do that.
>>
>> If you still have the old iMac, or a backup, you could copy/clone it to the new iMac.
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Re: SSD and back to SL

Posted by: "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen@earthlink.net   dougyelmen

Wed Jun 6, 2012 11:06 am (PDT)



thanks, jim.
i will be importing the user settings from my lion back-up ext. disk.
i have a SL ext. disk, but the settings, music, apps, etc. are very old.

doug
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On Jun 5, 2012, at 8:46 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:

>> I had been on 10.6.8 for a LONG time and was not only used to it but comfortable with it.
>> Then, my wife talked me into exchanging my 5+ year old iMac with a new one. Whew! Even tho' I got an Apple refurb mid-2011, it's essentially brand new, but... it's got Lion (10.7.3 installed.) I'm not all that happy with it, I must say.
>>
>> I asked for it to be delivered with 10.6.8, but... as we all know, they will NOT do that.
>
> If you still have the old iMac, or a backup, you could copy/clone it to the new iMac.
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Re: SSD and back to SL

Posted by: "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen@earthlink.net   dougyelmen

Wed Jun 6, 2012 11:09 am (PDT)



i am NOT sure it is possible to go from a 2011 iMac with Lion pre-installed back to SL.
please call apple and/or someone and ask before you go much further.
good luck.

doug
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On Jun 5, 2012, at 4:12 PM, keith_w @dslextreme.com wrote:

> Oh my! I'm having a heck of a time with Lion!
> I had been on 10.6.8 for a LONG time and was not only used to it but
> comfortable with it.
> Then, my wife talked me into exchanging my 5+ year old iMac with a new one.
> Whew! Even tho' I got an Apple refurb mid-2011, it's essentially brand new,
> but... it's got Lion (10.7.3 installed.) I'm not all that happy with it, I
> must say.
>
> I asked for it to be delivered with 10.6.8, but... as we all know, they
> will NOT do that.
>
> Anyhow, I figured I might as well bite the bullet and get to know the new
> OS.
> That's why I'm so glad to see this post. I had imagined being able to do
> that, but didn't know if it was possible.
>
> I'll save the links and copy the files, before making the decision.
>
> My Geek Squad guy transferred the data over from my 10.6.8 machine to the
> newer 10.7.4 machine, leaving the old one still working. Excellent!
> In fact, I'm sending my mail from the older machine right now!
> I have not yet been able to get the newer machine to work properly with SM.
>
> Oh well. Eventually.
>
> I'm going to give my older iMac to my son, but...not until I manage to get
> the new one functional!
>
> Thanks for responding to Randy's message. That happened right in the middle
> of my transferring to the new machine, and I had missed it! Boy, I'm glad!
>
> Thank you, one and all.
>
> Keith Whaley <== hanging in with both OS' on two machines! <bigrin>
>
> * * * * * *
>
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Doug Yelmen <dougyelmen@earthlink.net>wrote:
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>> **
>>
>>
>> here's another. a little more tech friendly.
>>
>> http://gigaom.com/apple/how-to-downgrade-from-lion-to-snow-leopard/
>>
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>> Doug Yelmen Photography
>> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
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>> <http://dharmabum68.smugmug.com/Photography/Doug-Yelmen-Photography>
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>> http://www.pbase.com/yelmen/yelmen
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>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/riverrat68/
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>> On Jun 4, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 4, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>>
>>>> i want to go back to Snow Leopard.
>>>
>>>
>>> How to Switch Back from Lion to Snow Leopard
>>> <http://www.maclife.com/article/howtos/
>>> how_switch_back_lion_snow_leopard>
>>>
>>> See:
>>> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3264421?start=0&tstart=0
>>>
>>> Maybe a better solution:
>>>
>>> Use Both 10.6 and 10.7 on the Same Mac
>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/
>>> use_both_10.6_and_10.7_on_the_same_mac/
>>>
>>>
>>> ___________________________________________
>>> Randy B. Singer
>>> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
>>>
>>> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
>>> http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
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Re: SSD and back to SL/that's what i get when i don't double check w

Posted by: "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen@earthlink.net   dougyelmen

Wed Jun 6, 2012 11:12 am (PDT)



i meant to say i wouldn't think of you or anyone who is trying to help me or others as a pain.
Sorry.
doug
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On Jun 6, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Doug Yelmen wrote:

> my iMac is a m27" Quad i7 and it came with SL. (mid-10).
> i wouldn't think of you or anyone else who tried to help me or others.
> so, thanks.
>
>
>
> doug
>
>
> Doug Yelmen Photography
> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>
> <http://dharmabum68.smugmug.com/Photography/Doug-Yelmen-Photography>
>
> http://www.pbase.com/yelmen/yelmen
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/riverrat68/
>
> PostModernArt.com
>
> On Jun 6, 2012, at 12:24 AM, Christopher Collins wrote:
>
>> Please don't think me a pain for suggesting this, but SL might not have drivers for the newer hardware in your 2011 iMac.
>>
>> If it came with Lion, it may be that only Lion has the correct drivers. I had this very problem with an MBA.
>>
>> I hope you can prove me wrong.
>>
>> cjc
>>
>> On 06/06/2012, at 1:46 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:
>>
>>>> I had been on 10.6.8 for a LONG time and was not only used to it but comfortable with it.
>>>> Then, my wife talked me into exchanging my 5+ year old iMac with a new one. Whew! Even tho' I got an Apple refurb mid-2011, it's essentially brand new, but... it's got Lion (10.7.3 installed.) I'm not all that happy with it, I must say.
>>>>
>>>> I asked for it to be delivered with 10.6.8, but... as we all know, they will NOT do that.
>>>
>>> If you still have the old iMac, or a backup, you could copy/clone it to the new iMac.
>>>
>>> --
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
>>> ._,___
>>>
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5e.

Re: SSD and back to SL

Posted by: "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen@earthlink.net   dougyelmen

Wed Jun 6, 2012 12:06 pm (PDT)



Keith, I just talked to OWC. you CAN go back to SL even if your machine came with Lion installed on it.
BUT, that will void your warranty. i guess that's the breaks. it seems worth it to me.
i don't think my machine will have it's warranty (extended 3 year) voided because it came with SL.
i hope this helps.
good luck.
doug
doug
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On Jun 5, 2012, at 4:12 PM, keith_w @dslextreme.com wrote:

> Oh my! I'm having a heck of a time with Lion!
> I had been on 10.6.8 for a LONG time and was not only used to it but
> comfortable with it.
> Then, my wife talked me into exchanging my 5+ year old iMac with a new one.
> Whew! Even tho' I got an Apple refurb mid-2011, it's essentially brand new,
> but... it's got Lion (10.7.3 installed.) I'm not all that happy with it, I
> must say.
>
> I asked for it to be delivered with 10.6.8, but... as we all know, they
> will NOT do that.
>
> Anyhow, I figured I might as well bite the bullet and get to know the new
> OS.
> That's why I'm so glad to see this post. I had imagined being able to do
> that, but didn't know if it was possible.
>
> I'll save the links and copy the files, before making the decision.
>
> My Geek Squad guy transferred the data over from my 10.6.8 machine to the
> newer 10.7.4 machine, leaving the old one still working. Excellent!
> In fact, I'm sending my mail from the older machine right now!
> I have not yet been able to get the newer machine to work properly with SM.
>
> Oh well. Eventually.
>
> I'm going to give my older iMac to my son, but...not until I manage to get
> the new one functional!
>
> Thanks for responding to Randy's message. That happened right in the middle
> of my transferring to the new machine, and I had missed it! Boy, I'm glad!
>
> Thank you, one and all.
>
> Keith Whaley <== hanging in with both OS' on two machines! <bigrin>
>
> * * * * * *
>
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Doug Yelmen <dougyelmen@earthlink.net>wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> here's another. a little more tech friendly.
>>
>> http://gigaom.com/apple/how-to-downgrade-from-lion-to-snow-leopard/
>>
>>
>> Doug Yelmen Photography
>> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>>
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>>> On Jun 4, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Doug Yelmen wrote:
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>>>> i want to go back to Snow Leopard.
>>>
>>>
>>> How to Switch Back from Lion to Snow Leopard
>>> <http://www.maclife.com/article/howtos/
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>>>
>>> See:
>>> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3264421?start=0&tstart=0
>>>
>>> Maybe a better solution:
>>>
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>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/
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>>>
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5f.

Re: SSD and back to SL

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Wed Jun 6, 2012 12:15 pm (PDT)



>>> I had been on 10.6.8 for a LONG time and was not only used to it but comfortable with it.
>>> Then, my wife talked me into exchanging my 5+ year old iMac with a new one. Whew! Even tho' I got an Apple refurb mid-2011, it's essentially brand new, but... it's got Lion (10.7.3 installed.) I'm not all that happy with it, I must say.
>>>
>>> I asked for it to be delivered with 10.6.8, but... as we all know, they will NOT do that.
>>
>> If you still have the old iMac, or a backup, you could copy/clone it to the new iMac.
>
> Please don't think me a pain for suggesting this, but SL might not have drivers for the newer hardware in your 2011 iMac.
>
> If it came with Lion, it may be that only Lion has the correct drivers. I had this very problem with an MBA.

The only iMacs SOLD new with Lion were the LATE 2011 models.
The MID 2011 iMacs were all factory-delivered with Snow Leopard.
This refurb clearly had Lion installed later.

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5g.

Re: SSD and back to SL

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Wed Jun 6, 2012 12:50 pm (PDT)



> Keith, I just talked to OWC. you CAN go back to SL even if your machine came with Lion installed on it.
>
> BUT, that will void your warranty. i guess that's the breaks. it seems worth it to me.

I would check with Apple, not with OWC.
("Hey, Apple: I have an iMac12,1 [or iMac 12,2] that I bought from you refurbished. You sold it with Lion, but I understand these came originally with Snow Leopard. Is there any problem if I choose to re-install Snow Leopard on it?")

Both the Mid 2011 21.5" and the Mid 2011 27" iMacs were sold with Snow Leopard. Obviously, Apple installed Lion on this one during the refurbishment process.

There is no logical reason why the warranty on a stock Mid 2011 iMac that came originally with SL should have that warranty voided by re-installing SL.

If it were a LATE 2011 iMac, ALL of which came with Lion, then I could understand the warranty issue.

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5h.

Re: SSD and back to SL

Posted by: "Tight Guy" jcrowe@jcrowe.net   jcrowe1950

Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:54 pm (PDT)



Hi Folks,

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Doug Yelmen <dougyelmen@...>
wrote:
>
> i am NOT sure it is possible to go from a 2011 iMac with Lion
pre-installed back to SL.
> please call apple and/or someone and ask before you go much further.
> good luck.

The answer is that yes it is quite possible to reinstall SL on that
model of iMac
but it's not simple. You need to have the Snow Leopard install disc but
even that is
not simple. I went through the process for my early 2011 Macbook Pro
which I installed
an SSD and 8GBytes of memory. The version of SL on my install disk is
10.6.3, which will
not boot on that hardware.....so instead I used another Mac to do the
installation in target
mode over FW800. This was into a secondary partition on the SSD. After
the install, it will
still not boot until one applies the 10.6.8 combo update again in target
mode. If you don't
feel comfortable with that level of tinkering, you might be able to find
somebody who will
do it for you. Your alternative is to see if you can find a 10.6.8
installation disk either for
sale or for download. Using that would make the process much more
straightforward.
Good luck.
>
> doug
> Doug Yelmen Photography

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5i.

Re: SSD and back to SL

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:47 pm (PDT)



On 6 June 2012 20:50, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@me.com> wrote:

>
> There is no logical reason why the warranty on a stock Mid 2011 iMac that
> came originally with SL should have that warranty voided by re-installing
> SL.
>
> If it were a LATE 2011 iMac, ALL of which came with Lion, then I could
> understand the warranty issue.
>

But in that case I doubt that 10.6 would even install (or, if you were able
to do that), run.

Otto

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Re: Bug in iTunes

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Wed Jun 6, 2012 11:39 am (PDT)



On 5 June 2012 22:18, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com> wrote:

> PS and you have only just told us what happens. ;)
>
>
> First of all, I've just tried MacTubes and it's a great free app. It
really does make YouTube videos so much easier to access and download.

I've now tested changing the Stop Time in a film/movie (actually I tried
2), a video podcast, and a YouTube download. In *all* cases the change
worked and playing stopped at the time I had set. It's worth mentioning,
though, that the remaining time shown in the iTunes top bar does not
reflect the changed stop time: it is still based on the original time.

I suppose that not many people are very interested in this. UntiI now I
have only ever changed the Stop Time when creating ringtones for my iPhone.

So, if there's a bug, I don't have it!

Otto

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7a.

small Firewire network - other ideas?

Posted by: "hpsbenbenek" houseplantpicturestudio@charter.net   hpsbenbenek

Wed Jun 6, 2012 12:10 pm (PDT)



In my 17 years of Mac use, I had never networked two Macs together until last night, when I connected a simple Firewire cord to my old 2007 iMac and my new Mac Mini - I was easily able to transfer old files to the new machine and started to wonder if there was anything else I could do with this arrangement? My old iMac still works fine, but I plan to use it only as an extra hard drive. BUT is there any other way to use this small two Mac network? - - thanks!

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Re: small Firewire network - other ideas?

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:42 pm (PDT)



What are the sizes of the 2 internal drives?

Otto

On 6 June 2012 20:10, hpsbenbenek <houseplantpicturestudio@charter.net>wrote:

> In my 17 years of Mac use, I had never networked two Macs together until
> last night, when I connected a simple Firewire cord to my old 2007 iMac and
> my new Mac Mini - I was easily able to transfer old files to the new
> machine and started to wonder if there was anything else I could do with
> this arrangement? My old iMac still works fine, but I plan to use it only
> as an extra hard drive. BUT is there any other way to use this small two
> Mac network? - - thanks!
>

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[ADMIN] Re: [macsupport] motorcycles

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:52 pm (PDT)



Yes. This is off-topic.

There are many MC forums/groups/lists where this can be continued.

Otto

On 6 June 2012 20:39, Barry Austern <barryaus@fuse.net> wrote:

> Any chance we can stop this thread? There are many here (possibly
> most) who think this is a Macintosh list, not a list to talk about
> motorcycles.
> Any moderators here to read this??
>

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9a.

Re: Preview Problems.

Posted by: "iris" gardenstr25@yahoo.com   gardenstr25

Wed Jun 6, 2012 4:18 pm (PDT)



Haven't been on line much the past 2 days. We are going to add memory which is needed and then I will go to Restore .Thank you all for your help.
Iris

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "Randy B. Singer" <randy@...> wrote:
>
>
> On Jun 4, 2012, at 8:05 PM, paul smith wrote:
>
> > The simplest fix would be to reinstall the operating system
>
> That shouldn't be necessary. There is an even simpler solution.
>
> Run the Restore disk that came with your Macintosh. There you will
> find the option to re-install any of the apps that
> Apple bundles with a new Mac.
> Look for the folder called "Optional Installs"
>
> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3415
>
> <http://www.macyourself.com/2008/09/03/reinstall-bundled-apps-from-
> leopard-disc-without-reinstalling-os-x/>
>
> Even if you are running Lion (OS X 10.7), which is only available via
> download, there should still be a Restore disk (not for Lion, but for
> the other bundled software that came with your Mac but which is not
> part of Lion.)
>
> ___________________________________________
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> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
>
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> http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
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