8/05/2013

[macsupport] Digest Number 9687

15 New Messages

Digest #9687
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Re: Looking for a very good file manager by "Denver Dan" denverdan22180
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Re: Looking for a very good file manager by "Denver Dan" denverdan22180
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Re: Getting rid of Outlook by "fussyoldfart" fussyoldfart
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Re: nettop Command Program by "Jim Hamm" jimhamm90
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Re: hacked mail by "Carol Corley" floridabouvs
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Re: hacked mail by "bob" rbmorin2002
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Re: hacked mail by "N.A. Nada"
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Re: Reinstall Rosetta? by "Bill B." kernos501
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icloud data entry- address book by "ennisart" ennisart
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Re: icloud data entry- address book by "Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

Messages

Mon Aug 5, 2013 5:43 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"chas" schuetzen

On 8/5/13 3:53 AM, Charles Carroll wrote:
> I am moving files from the Mac filesystem to the cloud storage and
> between the cloud storage systems themselves.
>
> I have not found good clean easy ways to move files from Mac to say
> Dropbox folder. Dcag and drop was not working. And copying is supported
> but not move. Cut works but paste is not an option into a dropbox folder.
>
> I was using Finder Window should I be using a different part of Mac to do
> that level of file management.
>

one of the greatest complaints I have is that the Central Point Software
knockoff called Directory Opus. This is the best thing since apple pie but
sadly, has not been ported to the MAC. BUT, if you ever go to a Doze machine
for your ham radio digital software, get this program!

to answer your question, just use the Finder application. it is free, comes
with the OS and does most things relatively well.

fwiw

chas k5dam
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Mon Aug 5, 2013 6:35 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Pat Taylor" pat412255

I use cmd-option-v to move files that I've copied using cmd-c between Finder windows/folders.

On Aug 5, 2013, at 5:19 AM, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com> wrote:

> No, I think Finder is what you should be using. You could also use
> Terminal, but only if you are happy with the Unix CLI (Command Line
> Interface).
>
> If I open my Dropbox folder and another folder in Finder, drag-and-drop
> *moves* files from one to the other in either direction. If I hold down the
> option key while doing this, the files are copied, not moved.
>
> Cmd-x, however, behaves no differently to cmd-c: in both cases, the
> subsequent cmd-v copies, not moves.
>
> I think this is normal Finder behaviour. I don't know why cmd-x does *not*
> cut files even though it's listed as a Finder shortcut at
> <http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1343>
> Can anyone throw any light on this?
>
> Otto
> OS X 10.8.4
>
> On 5 August 2013 09:53, Charles Carroll <911@learnasp.com> wrote:
>
> > I am moving files from the Mac filesystem to the cloud storage and between
> > the cloud storage systems themselves.
> >
> > I have not found good clean easy ways to move files from Mac to say Dropbox
> > folder. Dcag and drop was not working. And copying is supported but not
> > move. Cut works but paste is not an option into a dropbox folder.
> >
> > I was using Finder Window should I be using a different part of Mac to do
> > that level of file management.
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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Mon Aug 5, 2013 7:44 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Howdy.

Charles, what do you mean by a file manager?

The entire Finder is a file manager, of course, but that doesn't seem
to be what you are aiming for.

Are you looking for something to automate routine tasks?

Denver Dan

On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 17:57:55 -0400, Charles Carroll wrote:
> http://www.ragesw.com/products/explorer/download/
> is not as good as they say it is.
>
> Lack of Right click support ad lack of detailed image previews quells
> my interest so far.
>
> What is a very good file manager for the Mac?
>
> I need to move files to and from my cloud storage (SugarSync, DropBox,
> GDrive, SkyDrive) and my Mac and BootCamp/parallels volumes and need a
> superb file manager.
>
> What do people like? I will start with free ones or free trials and if
> I love it in a few weeks I will pay to upgrade my trial to pro if they
> are that much better than free ones.
>

Mon Aug 5, 2013 7:47 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Howdy.

I use Dropbox and I drag n drop files all the time from any Finder
window to the folder on Dropbox I want the files to be in. Zero
problem. Dropbox then takes over and uploads the files to my cloud
account on Dropbox and I check the progress via the Dropbox Menu bar
icon/menu.

Denver Dan

On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 04:53:54 -0400, Charles Carroll wrote:
> I am moving files from the Mac filesystem to the cloud storage and between
> the cloud storage systems themselves.
>
> I have not found good clean easy ways to move files from Mac to say Dropbox
> folder. Dcag and drop was not working. And copying is supported but not
> move. Cut works but paste is not an option into a dropbox folder.
>
> I was using Finder Window should I be using a different part of Mac to do
> that level of file management.

Mon Aug 5, 2013 5:43 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"James Robertson" jamesrob328i


On Aug 4, 2013, at 6:39 AM, Pat Taylor <pat412@mac.com> wrote:

> I recently replaced my Comcast modem & use it with the newest model Time Capsule. To eliminate the "double NAT" situation, I called Comcast & they disabled the wireless feature on the modem. My service has been excellent since the upgrade. My modem model is: SMC Networks smcd3gnv.

That may be part of what I need to do. I shudder at the notion of getting someone at Comcast to do anything beyond implementing canned scripts, however. It took them two or three visits to get my home telephone, wired internet, and television service implemented. It took another 2 or 3 visits for them to program the "CableCards&quot; in my TiVo.

Since it sounds as though you may have responded to Comcast's offer of a "free" service upgrade, may I ask if that all by itself enhanced your internet experience?

Your post led me to a Google search for your cable interface, and THAT eliminated (I think) one of my own misperceptions; namely, that a WiFi access point will have antennas protruding from it. The pdf that I found that describes your interface box's feature set shows a few pictures of it: no protruding antennas (of course, Apple's WiFi access points have none, either, so my preconceived notion was baseless even before I looked up your device).

Looking at the specs of your box listed by its manufacturer did surprise me a bit. Among 3 pages full of images, text, and protocol acronyms, nowhere can one find the characters 802.11 (followed by b, g, n, or ac). I'm guessing, but have no reason to have confidence in this inference, that the model number could be decoded to mean

smc "Cable" "Docsis3" "802.11g and n" "voice"

I've been away from home for the weekend; my family know better than to dive behind my desk. When I get home tonight I'll take the "deep dive" back there, try to decipher whatever identifying information I can find on my cable box, and also try to wrest my Airport Extreme Base Station from the rats nest to lessen the likelihood of rf interference with its signals. My uninformed speculation is that rf interference is NOT what causes my periodic problem with WiFi transmissions, because my "vipers nest" doesn't change (it may LOOK like a den of snakes, but they're not capable of movement!).

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Mon Aug 5, 2013 6:46 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Pat Taylor" pat412255

Using www.speedtest.net on my Macs, my download speed measurement went from about 25Mbps to 55Mbps & upload speed from about 6Mbps to 12Mbps. I've enjoyed comparable speed increases on my iDevices as well.

On Aug 5, 2013, at 6:43 AM, James Robertson <jamesrob@sonic.net> wrote:

> Since it sounds as though you may have responded to Comcast's offer of a "free" service upgrade, may I ask if that all by itself enhanced your internet experience?

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Mon Aug 5, 2013 7:38 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"James Robertson" jamesrob328i


On Aug 5, 2013, at 6:46 AM, Pat Taylor <pat412@mac.com> wrote:

> Using www.speedtest.net on my Macs, my download speed measurement went from about 25Mbps to 55Mbps & upload speed from about 6Mbps to 12Mbps. I've enjoyed comparable speed increases on my iDevices as well.

Thanks for that. Guess I have some work to do.

Do you get voice service from Comcast? If so, did they require you to pay for battery backup for your access device (which is buried inside my current device)?

Thanks again,

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Jim Robertson
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Mon Aug 5, 2013 6:03 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"fussyoldfart" fussyoldfart



Thanks Brent, that's a good plan. I have to say that getting help from Bell is problematical. I didn't know when I switched providers that Bell is obstinately pro-Microsoft; coupled to worse customer service than any I can think of this becomes a serious challenge for a dedicated Mac user. I know I can have Mail back in control, it worked for a few days when first I switched. Once I signed in to Outlook, however, net mail became my only path. I do not have any version of Outlook installed on my iMac. It seems that, like Facebook, once you are into Outlook there is no way out. (Ooh, that's too many "ins and outs" but I can't think of a better way to phrase it.)

Darrell

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@...> wrote:
>
> I'm sure if you set up the accounts in Mail, you could read them there. Go to the Bell.net support page or call them, and dig up the info you need if Mail can't set it up for you.
>
> I tried setting up a fake bell.net account on mine and the error message started "bell.net POP server "pophm.sympatico.ca" ", so there is a set up in Mail. If it is up to date is another question. I don't use bell.net and that is the reason I got an error message since it could not find my account on their servers.
>
> Brent
>
>
> On Aug 4, 2013, at 5:36 AM, fussyoldfart wrote:
>
> Thanks Dan,
>
> I checked and that is exactly how Mail is configured but I still have to open Safari and go to Outlook to get my bell.net mail.
>
> Darrell McDonald
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Denver Dan <denver.dan@> wrote:
> >
> > Howdy.
> >
> > Darrell, launch Apple's Mail program.
> >
> > Open Mail>Preferences.
> >
> > Click the General icon on Toolbar in Preferences (if not already
> > clicked).
> >
> > Note the very first item named Default email reader.
> >
> > What program is it set to?
> >
> > You should be able to set it to Mail to make Mail your default email
> > program.
> >
> > Sometimes other email program may configure themselves as the default
> > email program.
> >
> > BTW, same thing is available in Apple's Safari to set the default web
> > browser program.
> >
> > Denver Dan
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 02:04:39 +0000, fussyoldfart wrote:
> > > I recently switched providers and now mail at the new address
> > > provided by the new ISP comes in to Outlook as web mail. I want it to
> > > arrive in my Mail Inbox with all the other mail such as gmail and
> > > yahoo messages. It actually did this for a few days after the switch
> > > but then I "signed in" to Outlook and now I have to use Safari to get
> > > my email.
> > >
> > > With my other provider my personal mail always arrived in "Mail" as
> > > well as my gmail.
> > >
> > > I went to the help section in Mail and followed the instructions to
> > > have it delivered there but that didn't work. Outlook seems to have
> > > taken control. It is possible I have misread the help instructions
> > > but they seemed clear enough. I do know that I did nothing
> > > intentional to commit to using Outlook and I don't like using it just
> > > because it is not Mail and I can't save important messages to my hard
> > > drive, they seem to reside on the net.
> > >
> > > Darrell McDonald
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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Mon Aug 5, 2013 6:11 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jim Hamm" jimhamm90

Yes, Charles, Little Snitch just might help him. As a side point, I tried
Little Snitch about a year ago because conceptually I like the idea of
monitoring outward connections to the internet. In practice, though, I got
tired of answering its constant requests for clearance. I got rid of it --
it just wasn't for me.....Jim

On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Charles Carroll <911@learnasp.com> wrote:

> Even better
> http://www.obdev.at/products/littlesnitch/index.html
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Jim Hamm <machamm@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > On a Mac forum I participate in a fellow posted a problem he was having,
> > all of a sudden, with excess bandwidth usage. He normally uses about 40GB
> > per month, but in the last 3 days he has downloaded 120GB! So far he has
> > not been able to identify the culprit, but the following information has
> > been provided to him for further analysis.
> >
> > If you should ever have a concern with or want to know more about
> bandwidth
> > usage, here<
> >
> http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-57580828-263/use-nettop-command-to-check-per-application-network-activity-in-os-x/
> > >is
> > an article explaining how you can open the
> > * nettop command program* in Terminal to see which processes are
> generating
> > the most network traffic....Jim
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/macsupportcentral/files/faq.htm>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
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Mon Aug 5, 2013 6:27 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Carol Corley" floridabouvs

What do you mean, password manager?
Thanks,
Carol

Bob wrote:
The problem is not Gmail. The problem is that most people don't use a
password manager and end up giving their credentials to a fake site.

Sent from my iPad 3

Mon Aug 5, 2013 7:39 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"bob" rbmorin2002



--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@...> wrote:
>
> So why are you not willing to use the double authenication to keep your email account from being hacked.
>
> If you are having problems with your gmail account in this account, could it be that it has been repeatedly been hacked and is now black listed?
>
> BTW, Bob, you used your gmail e-ddress to make this last post.
>
I am older and have great difficulty understanding people on the phone especially females. I never answer the phone these days - my wife does but is a computer phobe. We get about 20 calls a day and only about two of those are not junk calls. We have registered with do not call and have blocked many numbers. Few weeks ago we were getting a call from some organization every ten minutes for some hours - number had been blocked but it rings once. For me now a telephone has lost its utility - I keep it as many organizations seem to need a phone number. We do not own a smart phone and have no desire for one. Carry a cell phone but mostly for emergencies and communicating with my wife when shopping.

Google blacklisted my account because of messages being sent. I reset my password and my gmail account works. However Yahoo groups server still has me blacklisted I guess. I receive posts from groups using my gmail address but cannot post there from my mail program using that email address. I still have the gmail address listed in the group membership as my primary and can post to the site from the web page.

I am no way a computer expert but have had to use computers for communications since the late 60's or early 70's. Initially to instruments used in my work and later in communication with others. For many years had a dumb terminal linked to a corporate mainframe. At one time we had 11 incompatible e mail programs - the unix based one was the only universal. In printing a document had access to over 1500 printers in offices in a number of cities in the US and Europe. Security was always an issue and obviously still is. Phone and net security has now become a central issue in national discussion in the US and likely elsewhere.

bob

Mon Aug 5, 2013 8:16 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

He means an app that safely keeps your passwords for you, encrypted and password protected. Some versions offer other services like syncing between other devices you own, or to an encrypted cloud. (I do not suggest ever storing your personal and confidential information on someone else's cloud or server.)

Examples of a password manager would be 1Password, Passwords Plus, Callpod's Keeper.

Brent

On Aug 5, 2013, at 6:27 AM, Carol Corley wrote:

What do you mean, password manager?
Thanks,
Carol

Bob wrote:
The problem is not Gmail. The problem is that most people don't use a
password manager and end up giving their credentials to a fake site.

Sent from my iPad 3

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Mon Aug 5, 2013 7:13 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Bill B." kernos501

At 1:18 AM -0700 8/5/13, Dave C wrote:
>>>When searching in Eudora, the Find window opens and I select mailboxes by click-and-drag. When I let up on the mouse button the dotted select rectangle remains "stuck" to the cursor until... it goes away some seconds later. I then click in the text field to enter search criteria and the blinking bar cursor does not appear... for several seconds. Then I can enter terms and click Search. The cursor is responsive during this time; it isn't a "freeze".<<<

Are you downloading email when this happens? Eudora "normally"; slows way down when searching and downloading email at the same time. A "pendulum"; cursor will appear.

You can re-install Rosetta by using Pacifist to extract the installer from the SL disk.

Bill

Mon Aug 5, 2013 7:45 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"ennisart" ennisart

I am using icloud for my iPhone4 and iMac to sync.

Is it best to enter new data on the icloud rather than the iMac? Data doesn't seem to update to the cloud/iphone if I enter it on the iMac address book.

What causes address cards to duplicate?

Thanks.

John

iMac 2008 OS 10.8.4
iphone4 iOS6.1.3

Mon Aug 5, 2013 9:02 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

> I am using icloud for my iPhone4 and iMac to sync.
> What causes address cards to duplicate?
> John

Most commonly, sync'ing by more than one method -- iTunes and iCloud, for example.

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