3/05/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 8775

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Re: Quality firewire expansion card

Posted by: "Hugh Crymble" hcrymble@bmts.com   hcrymble

Mon Mar 5, 2012 11:31 am (PST)



I have an older LaCie Firewire 800 PC card that I use in a Thinkpad.

No problems with it.

hugh

On MondayMar 5, 2012, at MonMar/5/12 2:21 PM, Harry Flaxman wrote:

> On Mar 5, 2012, at 11:08 AM, martin trotter wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have received my external optical drive enclosure and tested it on my
> > mac. I would now like a firewire card for my PC.
> >
> > Having read the firewire wiki page it seems to suggest that firewires
> > performanceis very much dependent on the quality of the chipset on the
> > card.
> >
> > Have people on here had this experience themselves of variable
> > performance dependent on the quality of their firewire card?
> >
> > Any recommendation as to which chipset to look out for or brand of
> > firewire card for a PCI slot or PCI express x1 slot in a PC?
> >
> > Even ones to avoid will be helpful.
> >
> > thanks for your time
>
> My girl and I bought a FW card for her pc years ago. I don't know what the brand was, but I can dig it up and have a look see.
>
> I do know that it was Firewire 400, had 4 ports, and served it's purpose well.
>
> Give me a bit, and I'll see if I can find it.
>
> Harry
>
> Harold Flaxman
> harry.flaxman@me.com
>
>

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Re: Quality firewire expansion card

Posted by: "Jurgen Richter" yahoo-1@sympatico.ca   epsongroups

Mon Mar 5, 2012 11:35 am (PST)



I've used Sonnet components for years, though not recently. They have
some new stuff out that is interesting though.
Here is the link for the FW cards:

http://www.sonnettech.com/product/computercards/index.html

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Re: Quality firewire expansion card

Posted by: "martin trotter" ha4mnu@googlemail.com   trott3r

Mon Mar 5, 2012 12:44 pm (PST)



Lo,

On 5 March 2012 19:35, Jurgen Richter <yahoo-1@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> I've used Sonnet components for years, though not recently. They have
> some new stuff out that is interesting though.
> Here is the link for the FW cards:
>
> http://www.sonnettech.com/product/computercards/index.html

Thanks for the link but it seems the sonnet cards are around double
the price of other brands in the UK.

Here is a Texas instruments chipset based card that looks promising
from StarTech.

http://intrl.startech.com/Cards-Adapters/FireWire/4-Port-IEEE-1394-FireWire-PCI-Card~PCI1394MP

Martin

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Re: Quality firewire expansion card

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Mon Mar 5, 2012 12:46 pm (PST)



The chipset "issues" were with the "bridge" chips inside external drives, not the controller cards. At least I'm not aware of a problem with controller cards. The Oxford 946 is "bridge" chipset used in external drives.

At least not on Macs, which I totally missed in your original email. Sorry. There aren't very many FW controller cards for the Mac, and they are mostly made by reputable companies. Not true of PCs. Many cards, much junk.

Pick a card with a reputation. Lot's of reviews online because their are no "new" cards. You should be just fine.

Cheers,
tod

On Mar 5, 2012, at 11:57 AM, martin trotter wrote:

> Lo,
>
> Thanks for the information I am having trouble locating anything that
> isnt a VIA chipset.
> I have not found any oxford chipset in the UK so far.
>
> I have found dynamode and startech brands but still VIA chipsets.
>
> The Mac has an onboard firewire port so i was looking for one for the PC box.
> USB2 doesnt burn a DVD at 16x so i was hoping firewire would.
>
> Martin
>
> On 5 March 2012 16:45, Tod Hopkins <hoplist@hillmanncarr.com> wrote:
> > Not so much anymore. There were issues of quality, but FW cards are old technology and it hasn't changed in years. Any reputable card will do. Even in the past, the biggest issue was the chipset used in the external drive enclosure, not the system controller card.
> >
> > Oxford chipsets are the standard with "Oxford 946" the latest (?). Sonnet has historically been the go to manufacturer for FW cards, but there are plenty of perfectly good cards out there. Anything that has a good reputation should be fine. Look for the feature set you want (port combination, USB, eSata, whatever).
> >
> > Unless you are using other FW devices that have high bandwidth requirements (A/V devices) or you want to connect a lot of drives, you should not need a additional controller card. Your Mac's internal bus is fine for 3-4 drives in a chain if you are not a video editor.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > tod
> >
> >
> > On Mar 5, 2012, at 11:08 AM, martin trotter wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I have received my external optical drive enclosure and tested it on my
> >> mac. I would now like a firewire card for my PC.
> >>
> >> Having read the firewire wiki page it seems to suggest that firewires
> >> performanceis very much dependent on the quality of the chipset on the
> >> card.
> >>
> >> Have people on here had this experience themselves of variable
> >> performance dependent on the quality of their firewire card?
> >>
> >> Any recommendation as to which chipset to look out for or brand of
> >> firewire card for a PCI slot or PCI express x1 slot in a PC?
> >>
> >> Even ones to avoid will be helpful.
> >>
> >> thanks for your time
> >>
> >> Martin
> >>
> >> --
> >> Sorry for any errors GMail seems to crawl every so often on my
> >> internet connection :(
> >>
> >
> > Tod Hopkins
> > Hillmann & Carr Inc.
> > todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Group FAQ:
> > <http://www.macsupportcentral.com/policies/>
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Sorry for any errors GMail seems to crawl every so often on my
> internet connection :(
>

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com

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Re: Quality firewire expansion card

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:50 pm (PST)



>>> Any recommendation as to which chipset to look out for or brand of firewire card for a PCI slot or PCI express x1 slot in a PC?
>>
>> I am curious why you would ask a Mac support group for advice about a PC expansion card.
>
> Because firewire was more popular on Apple Mac computers and not on PCs.

Yes, and it came built-in, so no sole-Mac user would have any experience with PCI Firewire cards.

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Re: Quality firewire expansion card

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:51 pm (PST)



>> I am curious why you would ask a Mac support group for advice about a PC expansion card.
>
> A Mac IS a PC (Personal Computer).

The O.P. was clearly distinguishing between MacOS- and Windows-native machines.

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Re: Quality firewire expansion card

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:50 pm (PST)



Sonnet is twice the price because they have a long reputation for good devices and good service. Startech is a bargain component manufacturer. This is a product where you may get away with low-end, but that's the difference. I've used both Startech and Sonnet components. There is a difference. You won't get a meaningful guarantee or support from Startech. Whether it will matter in your particular case is hard to predict. The difference in such devices is often the support for drivers/software. That's where the manufacturer matters most.

Cheers,
tod

On Mar 5, 2012, at 3:44 PM, martin trotter wrote:

> Lo,
>
> On 5 March 2012 19:35, Jurgen Richter <yahoo-1@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > I've used Sonnet components for years, though not recently. They have
> > some new stuff out that is interesting though.
> > Here is the link for the FW cards:
> >
> > http://www.sonnettech.com/product/computercards/index.html
>
> Thanks for the link but it seems the sonnet cards are around double
> the price of other brands in the UK.
>
> Here is a Texas instruments chipset based card that looks promising
> from StarTech.
>
> http://intrl.startech.com/Cards-Adapters/FireWire/4-Port-IEEE-1394-FireWire-PCI-Card~PCI1394MP
>
> Martin
>

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com

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Re: Quality firewire expansion card

Posted by: "OBrien" bco@hiwaay.net   conorboru

Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:56 pm (PST)



On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 16:51:44 -0500, Jim Saklad wrote:
> The O.P. was clearly distinguishing between MacOS- and
> Windows-native machines.

Maybe...I didn't get that.

I never use the term "PC"...always PPC, Intel Mac, or Windows computer (less confusion that way.)


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Re: Quality firewire expansion card

Posted by: "OBrien" bco@hiwaay.net   conorboru

Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:57 pm (PST)



On Mon, 5 Mar 2012 16:56:00 -0600, OBrien wrote:
> or Windows computer

Or Wintel.


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Re: Quality firewire expansion card

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:57 pm (PST)



Actually, Mac video editors do. For years, online editing required two FW buses for peak performance. Macs have always only one bus, so an add-on card was required. I've put several FW cards in Macs, including my current editing system just last year, a Sonnet Tango 800 PCIe. Sonnet FW cards were the mainstay for Mac editors for years as they were one of the very few manufacturers that explicitly supported Macs.

Cheers,
tod

On Mar 5, 2012, at 4:50 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:

> >>> Any recommendation as to which chipset to look out for or brand of firewire card for a PCI slot or PCI express x1 slot in a PC?
> >>
> >> I am curious why you would ask a Mac support group for advice about a PC expansion card.
> >
> > Because firewire was more popular on Apple Mac computers and not on PCs.
>
> Yes, and it came built-in, so no sole-Mac user would have any experience with PCI Firewire cards.
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com

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Re: Quality firewire expansion card

Posted by: "martin trotter" ha4mnu@googlemail.com   trott3r

Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:21 pm (PST)



Fair enough.

The startech apparently does support MacOS 8.6 or later but that may
well be just inbuilt OS support rather than a separate driver.

Mac support is a consideration in the purchase but not paramount since
it will reside in the windows box for now.

Martin

On 5 March 2012 22:50, Tod Hopkins <hoplist@hillmanncarr.com> wrote:
> Sonnet is twice the price because they have a long reputation for good devices and good service. �tartech is a bargain component manufacturer. �his is a product where you may get away with low-end, but that's the difference. �I've used both Startech and Sonnet components. �here is a difference. �ou won't get a meaningful guarantee or support from Startech. �hether it will matter in your particular case is hard to predict. �he difference in such devices is often the support for drivers/software. �hat's where the manufacturer matters most.
>
> Cheers,
> �������tod
>
> On Mar 5, 2012, at 3:44 PM, martin trotter wrote:
>
>> Lo,
>>
>> On 5 March 2012 19:35, Jurgen Richter <yahoo-1@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> > I've used Sonnet components for years, though not recently. They have
>> > some new stuff out that is interesting though.
>> > Here is the link for the FW cards:
>> >
>> > http://www.sonnettech.com/product/computercards/index.html
>>
>> Thanks for the link but it seems the sonnet cards are around double
>> the price of other brands in the UK.
>>
>> Here is a Texas instruments chipset based card that looks promising
>> from StarTech.
>>
>> http://intrl.startech.com/Cards-Adapters/FireWire/4-Port-IEEE-1394-FireWire-PCI-Card~PCI1394MP
>>
>> Martin
>>
>
> Tod Hopkins
> Hillmann & Carr Inc.
> todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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Re: That is odd

Posted by: "vixpix" vixpix@frontiernet.net   nyskater

Mon Mar 5, 2012 11:33 am (PST)



Blaine,

To make your message make sense, you really need to respond to the email you are referring to and also keep the quoted text from that person in your response. You do this by pressing Reply to that email.

I'm kind of curious as to why people would read an email, then close that down, create a brand new thread with a new subject line and comment about that first email without even referencing it. I've seen other people do this too, which breaks the thread. Just curious as to why this happens every now and then.

That's what's really odd. Anyone??

Vickie

Sent from a spoiled little iPad2

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Re: iPhoto library question

Posted by: "HAL9000" jrswebhome@yahoo.com   jrswebhome

Mon Mar 5, 2012 12:07 pm (PST)



No Otto, not true. iPhoto refuses to recognize anything done in Photoshop despite the setting in iPhoto Prefs. Oh, the file is there, but iPhoto refuses to recognize it in it's database once edited in Photoshop. Ran into this issue months ago.

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:
>
> Not true. Assuming that iPhoto's built-in edit functions are too limited,
> there's an option within iPhoto to edit using an external app (such as
> Photoshop). This means that the *files* are still controlled by iPhoto and
> database integrity is maintained. IMO your method just adds extra steps to
> no purpose.
>
> (There must be something wrong with your setup if the above does *not*
> work.)
>
> Otto
>
> On 5 March 2012 03:23, HAL9000 <jrswebhome@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Caution using iPhoto.
> >
> > iPhoto is not a drag and drop application. It is a database application.
> > THINK database. After you plug the camera into your computer and download
> > the photos you have taken with your camera, DO NOT open them in Photoshop
> > from iPhoto, despite the preference setting to do just that in iPhoto.
> >
> > The only way to edit images stored in iPhoto, is to EXPORT image A to your
> > desktop. Then open image A in Photoshop, edit, save and close. Open iPhoto,
> > then IMPORT Image A back into iPhoto. This will create a new event in
> > iPhoto. Open the EVENTS window in iPhoto and drag the new event on top of
> > the older Image A event.
> >
> > Remember, this is a database program. It is organized through Import and
> > Export only.
> >
> > I have tried to do anything but the above and iPhoto will not recognize
> > any image manipulated in Photoshop directly from iPhoto.
> >
> > I like iPhoto, I use it. But only the way it wants me to. jr
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Re: iPhoto library question

Posted by: "Jay Abraham" jaygroups@abrahamgroup.net   kerala01212001

Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:15 pm (PST)



I think the issue is that Photoshop tries to save it in a proprietary format (.psd). If you save the File as Raw, JPEG or TIFF, iPhoto should recognize.

Jay

On Mar 5, 2012, at 2:06 PM, HAL9000 wrote:

> No Otto, not true. iPhoto refuses to recognize anything done in Photoshop despite the setting in iPhoto Prefs. Oh, the file is there, but iPhoto refuses to recognize it in it's database once edited in Photoshop. Ran into this issue months ago.

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Re: iPhoto library question

Posted by: "HAL9000" jrswebhome@yahoo.com   jrswebhome

Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:38 pm (PST)



My BAD. Yes, you and Otto are correct.

The problem I had was trying to SAVE AS the iPhoto photo as a different version in Photoshop. iPhoto will not recognize it, even if it is stored in the same iPhoto database location. If I am wrong, tell me. Just trying to warn folk's about using iPhoto app.

jr

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Jay Abraham <jaygroups@...> wrote:
>
> I think the issue is that Photoshop tries to save it in a proprietary format (.psd). If you save the File as Raw, JPEG or TIFF, iPhoto should recognize.
>
> Jay
>
> On Mar 5, 2012, at 2:06 PM, HAL9000 wrote:
>
> > No Otto, not true. iPhoto refuses to recognize anything done in Photoshop despite the setting in iPhoto Prefs. Oh, the file is there, but iPhoto refuses to recognize it in it's database once edited in Photoshop. Ran into this issue months ago.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Re: iPhoto library question

Posted by: "bob morin" rbmorin11@gmail.com   rbmorin2002

Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:42 pm (PST)




On Mar 5, 2012, at 4:15 PM, Jay Abraham wrote:

> I think the issue is that Photoshop tries to save it in a proprietary format (.psd). If you save the File as Raw, JPEG or TIFF, iPhoto should recognize.
>

If I set the preference for edit in Photoshop in iPhoto and then click edit in iPhoto, the image opens in Photoshop elements (9). I can edit the photo and then save it, JPEG or psd and it saves in iPhoto in the same event as the original. It is saved as a separate photo, the original is still there. I am using PSE 9 and iPhoto 11 version 9.2.1. Have been doing this with many photos - often saving as JPEG as is my original in iPhoto.

bob

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Re: iPhoto library question

Posted by: "Terry Pogue" tpogue@comcast.net   terrypogue_2000

Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:46 pm (PST)



When I was making a photo book I used PS to correct the photos and iPhoto would not see them in any format. I called Apple help and was told that iPhoto no longer allowed iPhoto to use any nonapple software. I would have to make any corrections in iPhoto or that other apple program that is used to organize photographs.
Thar was a bummer and I had to redo everything.
Terry

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On Mar 5, 2012, at 5:15 PM, Jay Abraham <jaygroups@abrahamgroup.net> wrote:

> I think the issue is that Photoshop tries to save it in a proprietary format (.psd). If you save the File as Raw, JPEG or TIFF, iPhoto should recognize.
>
> Jay
>
> On Mar 5, 2012, at 2:06 PM, HAL9000 wrote:
>
>> No Otto, not true. iPhoto refuses to recognize anything done in Photoshop despite the setting in iPhoto Prefs. Oh, the file is there, but iPhoto refuses to recognize it in it's database once edited in Photoshop. Ran into this issue months ago.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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Re: iPhoto library question

Posted by: "Barry Austern" barryaus@fuse.net   barryaus

Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:28 pm (PST)



At 5:45 PM -0500 3/5/12, Terry Pogue wrote:

>
>
>When I was making a photo book I used PS to correct the photos and
>iPhoto would not see them in any format. I called Apple help and was
>told that iPhoto no longer allowed iPhoto to use any nonapple
>software. I would have to make any corrections in iPhoto or that
>other apple program that is used to organize photographs.
>Thar was a bummer and I had to redo everything.
>Terry

I'm using the latest version of iPhoto, so I can't vouch for earlier
versions, other than that I do vaguely recall its working in earlier
versions. In the iPhoto preferences you choose advanced and then
"edit photos in." Your two choices are "in iPhoto" and "application."
If you choose the latter you then get a file-open dialogue box to
choose the application in which you edit the photos. I've never used
it myself, but know folks who have, and it works well. In other
words, with this gambit you never do really leave iPhoto, but iPhoto
itself hands off to the other application such as Photoshop.

Or, there is no reason why a picture modified in Photoshop, Graphic
Converter or any other program cannot then subsequently imported into
iPhoto as a totally new picture, and then, of course, you will be
able to order photo-books, etc.
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Re: iPhoto library question

Posted by: "bob morin" rbmorin11@gmail.com   rbmorin2002

Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:10 pm (PST)




On Mar 5, 2012, at 4:45 PM, Terry Pogue wrote:

> When I was making a photo book I used PS to correct the photos and iPhoto would not see them in any format. I called Apple help and was told that iPhoto no longer allowed iPhoto to use any nonapple software. I would have to make any corrections in iPhoto or that other apple program that is used to organize photographs.
> Thar was a bummer and I had to redo everything.

As I mentioned i am using the latest OS system, iPhoto and PSE (9) and I can readily edit photos in PSE and save them back in iPhoto. Done many photos that way.

bob

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Re: iPhoto library question

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:35 pm (PST)



On 6 March 2012 00:10, bob morin <rbmorin11@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> As I mentioned i am using the latest OS system, iPhoto and PSE (9) and I
> can readily edit photos in PSE and save them back in iPhoto. Done many
> photos that way.
>
>
I've done this too, but I can't say "many" because I like to leave most
pics as they were.

I'll need to see if it *still* works for me, and with which versions.

Otto

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Re: iPhoto library question

Posted by: "bob morin" rbmorin11@gmail.com   rbmorin2002

Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:54 pm (PST)




On Mar 5, 2012, at 6:35 PM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:

> I've done this too, but I can't say "many" because I like to leave most
> pics as they were.
>
> I'll need to see if it *still* works for me, and with which versions.
>

What they did do in going from iPhoto 9 to 11 was change in preferences where go could select an alternative application. It used to be in the first frame that opened, general - now it is in advanced.

They have been improving the editing capabilities of iPhoto and obviously want you to use those.

bob
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Re: iPhoto library question

Posted by: "Jay Abraham" jaygroups@abrahamgroup.net   kerala01212001

Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:57 pm (PST)



Yes, you can't just save a different version of the file in the folder. If you want to edit it, you must replace the existing version. Alternatively you can just use the edit function in iPhoto with Photoshop selected as the editing program. Then just save. If you don't want to replace the existing file, duplicate before editing.

Jay

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On Mar 5, 2012, at 4:38 PM, "HAL9000" <jrswebhome@yahoo.com> wrote:

> My BAD. Yes, you and Otto are correct.
>
> The problem I had was trying to SAVE AS the iPhoto photo as a different version in Photoshop. iPhoto will not recognize it, even if it is stored in the same iPhoto database location. If I am wrong, tell me. Just trying to warn folk's about using iPhoto app.
>
> jr
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Jay Abraham <jaygroups@...> wrote:
> >
> > I think the issue is that Photoshop tries to save it in a proprietary format (.psd). If you save the File as Raw, JPEG or TIFF, iPhoto should recognize.
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> > Jay
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> > On Mar 5, 2012, at 2:06 PM, HAL9000 wrote:
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> > > No Otto, not true. iPhoto refuses to recognize anything done in Photoshop despite the setting in iPhoto Prefs. Oh, the file is there, but iPhoto refuses to recognize it in it's database once edited in Photoshop. Ran into this issue months ago.
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Re: Intel Xeon E5 Processors - New MacPro Soon?

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:48 pm (PST)



> I had a PowerMac G5 way back when. I did enjoy the tower and expandability of the machine as well as the processing power, but moved away from it several months after the introduction of Intel Macs.
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> I think that a high-end iMac would suit my purposes now.
> Harry

If I had not found a used Intel Mac Pro to replace the G5 tower (as a supplement to my laptop), I would likely have gotten a new Intel Mini.

This Intel Mac Pro has a lot of life left in it, however....

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OS X 10.7.3 Supplemental Update

Posted by: "paul smith" kullervo@nycap.rr.com   waldonny

Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:54 pm (PST)



This just showed up in my Software Update. It is recommended for "all 10.7.3 users who back up to Time Machine." The description says it fixes an issue with TM updates in 10.7.3. No updated 10.7.3 Combo Update yet, though.
Gonna run a SuperDuper backup, and then try installing the supplemental update.
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MacBook Pro, 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB DDR2 SDRAM, OS 10.7.3 iPhone 4S 64 GB, iOS 5.0.1

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Installed the 10.7.3 Supplemental Update

Posted by: "paul smith" kullervo@nycap.rr.com   waldonny

Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:12 pm (PST)



So I ran it, and for the first time ever (I think), it did NOT require a restart. Software Update tells me that my software is now up to date.
The build number for OS X 10.7.3 now shows as 11D50.
Since I haven't done any restoring from Time Machine since installing Lion, I can't say what issues might have existed prior to running this update.
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