4/09/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 8842

Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)

1a.
Re: Anti-Flashback Util - Freebie! From: raoullefere
1b.
Re: Anti-Flashback Util - Freebie! From: Otto Nikolaus
1c.
Re: Anti-Flashback Util - Freebie! From: Randy B. Singer
2a.
Re: OS 'ex' "a good laugh' From: Otto Nikolaus
3a.
Re: apple stock From: Doug Yelmen
3b.
Re: apple stock From: Doug Yelmen
3c.
Re: apple stock From: Doug Yelmen
3d.
Re: apple stock From: Doug Yelmen
3e.
Re: apple stock From: Doug Yelmen
3f.
Re: apple stock From: Jim Saklad
3g.
Re: apple stock From: Jim Saklad
3h.
Re: apple stock From: Doug Yelmen
3i.
Re: apple stock From: Doug Yelmen
3j.
Re: apple stock From: Jim Saklad
3k.
Re: apple stock From: Jim Showalter
3l.
Re: apple stock From: Jim Saklad
3m.
Re: apple stock From: Doug Yelmen
3n.
Re: apple stock From: Christopher Collins
3o.
Re: apple stock From: Doug Yelmen
3p.
Re: apple stock From: Jim Saklad
4a.
Re: Terminal question. From: Otto Nikolaus
4b.
Re: Terminal question. From: OldTechie
5a.
Re: Almost forgot important, Can't get into my account folder in fin From: Otto Nikolaus
5b.
Re: Almost forgot important, Can't get into my account folder in fin From: OldTechie
6.
TidBITS Editors on Flashback Malware From: Doug Yelmen

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1a.

Re: Anti-Flashback Util - Freebie!

Posted by: "raoullefere" raoullefere@yahoo.com   raoullefere

Mon Apr 9, 2012 5:04 pm (PDT)



Not that I'm depending on this, but since I have ClamX in my Utilities folder, does that mean it avails me not?

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:
>
> Here's something that I found interesting. From
> <http://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/trojan-downloader_osx_flashback_i.shtml>
> ----
>
> *Installation*
>
> On execution, the malware checks if the following path exists in the system:
>
> - /Library/Little Snitch
> - /Developer/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/MacOS/Xcode
> - /Applications/VirusBarrier X6.app
> - /Applications/iAntiVirus/iAntiVirus.app
> - /Applications/avast!.app
> - /Applications/ClamXav.app
> - /Applications/HTTPScoop.app
> - /Applications/Packet Peeper.app
>
> If any of these are found, the malware will skip the rest of its routine
> and proceed to delete itself.
>
> ----
>
> So the mere presence of one of these apps means you are safe?
> Otto
>
> On 9 April 2012 16:59, Steve B. <macosx@...> wrote:
>
> > Smart because I was immediately reluctant.
> >
> > Pretty sure ClamXav removes Flashback. I'm not infected so I haven't
> > confirmed that.
> >
>
>
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1b.

Re: Anti-Flashback Util - Freebie!

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Mon Apr 9, 2012 5:16 pm (PDT)



I wish I knew for sure. Randy's comment immediately up-thread is probably
the best advice.

(Of course, I wonder what's going on here. Someone designs a trojan to
instantly abort when it detects the presence of any of a list of malware
detection apps?)

Otto

On 10 April 2012 01:04, raoullefere <raoullefere@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Not that I'm depending on this, but since I have ClamX in my Utilities
> folder, does that mean it avails me not?
>

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1c.

Re: Anti-Flashback Util - Freebie!

Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com   randybrucesinger

Mon Apr 9, 2012 6:56 pm (PDT)




On Apr 9, 2012, at 5:15 PM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:

> (Of course, I wonder what's going on here. Someone designs a trojan to
> instantly abort when it detects the presence of any of a list of
> malware
> detection apps?)

Folks have speculated that since Flashback creates a huge bot
network, that the creators of Flashback wanted the malware to only be
installed on the machines of users who are unlikely to detect it, and
thus it will remain installed for a long time.

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
___________________________________________

2a.

Re: OS 'ex' "a good laugh'

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Mon Apr 9, 2012 5:27 pm (PDT)



X or 10?
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Os_x>

Otto

On 9 April 2012 23:52, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:

> Hey, I saw it on the local news here in Portland, Oregon last night.
> Sounds like they both read the same wire story. Neither seemed to have a
> clue, they were just spouting words with fake authority.
>
> As I understand it, the correct name is Mac OS X ("ex")
> 10(point)(whatever). Although the X is Roman numeral for 10.
>

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3a.

Re: apple stock

Posted by: "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen@earthlink.net   dougyelmen

Mon Apr 9, 2012 5:33 pm (PDT)



i lucked out.

doug
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On Apr 9, 2012, at 4:16 PM, Barry Austern wrote:

> At 6:44 PM -0400 4/9/12, Jim Saklad wrote:
>
>>
>> I was under the impression that Apple stock had never split.
>> At leas not in the last 15 years.
>> And I know not in the last 2-3 years, since I've been following it.
>
> I do remember one split AFTER I sold it.
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3b.

Re: apple stock

Posted by: "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen@earthlink.net   dougyelmen

Mon Apr 9, 2012 5:34 pm (PDT)



not quite right. when i decided to sell the stock, it had split.
just within a few weeks it split again.
doug
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Sir Winston Churchill

On Apr 9, 2012, at 4:08 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:

>>> I was under the impression that Apple stock had never split.
>>> At leas not in the last 15 years.
>>> And I know not in the last 2-3 years, since I've been following it.
>>
>> Apple stock has had at least two splints but I couldn't tell you what
>> years those were in.
>
> <http://investor.apple.com/faq.cfm?FaqSetID=2>
> How many times has Apple stock split?
>> There have been three 2-for-1 stock splits. The payable dates were;
>> June 15, 1987
>> June 21, 2000
>> February 28, 2005
>
> It was about $10 the first time, $70 the second, and $175 the third.
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Re: apple stock

Posted by: "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen@earthlink.net   dougyelmen

Mon Apr 9, 2012 5:36 pm (PDT)



don't know where you get your information.
i won't hold it against you, however.
and negativity cannot get me off my cloud.
besides, it happened.
believe me.

Doug Yelmen
dougyelmen@earthlink.net

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Sir Winston Churchill

On Apr 9, 2012, at 4:04 PM, Ron West wrote:

> 2-for-1 in 2005
>
> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@me.com> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>>> i bought some shares of apple (APPL) in 1996 as a show of faith.
>>> ...
>>> recently, i decided to sell those shares.
>>> the stocks had split, and were in the $550 range.
>>> ...
>>> a few weeks later, they split again, and were work $630 or thereabouts.
>>> i can see them getting up to 1,000 a share.
>>
>> I was under the impression that Apple stock had never split.
>> At leas not in the last 15 years.
>> And I know not in the last 2-3 years, since I've been following it.
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3d.

Re: apple stock

Posted by: "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen@earthlink.net   dougyelmen

Mon Apr 9, 2012 5:37 pm (PDT)



i bought mine in 1996.
who cares what people think.
they probably use PCs secretly, Dan.
Mercy, Mercy, Mercy.

doug
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On Apr 9, 2012, at 3:54 PM, Denver Dan wrote:

> Howdy.
>
> Apple stock has had at least two splints but I couldn't tell you what
> years those were in.
>
> The newly declared dividend, due to begin at end of June 2012, will
> probably help the stock price.
>
> There are some prognostications that it will rise to $1,000 USD per
> share.
>
> I bought some Apple stock about 4 years ago to "put my money where my
> mouth is." Mercy. It was a good thing to do and most of the people I
> know thought I was nuts. Might have been!
>
> Denver Dan
>
>
> On Mon, 09 Apr 2012 18:44:49 -0400, Jim Saklad wrote:
>>> i bought some shares of apple (APPL) in 1996 as a show of faith.
>>> ...
>>> recently, i decided to sell those shares.
>>> the stocks had split, and were in the $550 range.
>>> ...
>>> a few weeks later, they split again, and were work $630 or thereabouts.
>>> i can see them getting up to 1,000 a share.
>>
>> I was under the impression that Apple stock had never split.
>> At leas not in the last 15 years.
>> And I know not in the last 2-3 years, since I've been following it.
>>
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Re: apple stock

Posted by: "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen@earthlink.net   dougyelmen

Mon Apr 9, 2012 5:38 pm (PDT)



believe what you want.
i don't give a sh*t.

i should have just kept it to myself

kind of funny.

doug
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On Apr 9, 2012, at 3:44 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:

>> i bought some shares of apple (APPL) in 1996 as a show of faith.
>> ...
>> recently, i decided to sell those shares.
>> the stocks had split, and were in the $550 range.
>> ...
>> a few weeks later, they split again, and were work $630 or thereabouts.
>> i can see them getting up to 1,000 a share.
>
> I was under the impression that Apple stock had never split.
> At leas not in the last 15 years.
> And I know not in the last 2-3 years, since I've been following it.
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Re: apple stock

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Mon Apr 9, 2012 6:25 pm (PDT)



>>> Apple stock has had at least two splints but I couldn't tell you what years those were in.
>>
>> <http://investor.apple.com/faq.cfm?FaqSetID=2>
>>> How many times has Apple stock split?
>>> There have been three 2-for-1 stock splits. The payable dates were;
>>> June 15, 1987
>>> June 21, 2000
>>> February 28, 2005
>>
>> It was about $10 the first time, $70 the second, and $175 the third.
>
> not quite right. when i decided to sell the stock, it had split.
> just within a few weeks it split again.
> doug

Err ... Doug ... those dates above are when *Apple* says their stock split.

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3g.

Re: apple stock

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Mon Apr 9, 2012 6:31 pm (PDT)



> don't know where you get your information.

Apple

> i won't hold it against you, however.
> and negativity cannot get me off my cloud.
> besides, it happened.
> believe me.

Right.

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Re: apple stock

Posted by: "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen@earthlink.net   dougyelmen

Mon Apr 9, 2012 6:47 pm (PDT)



heal thyself, doctor.

apple. ha. i got the paperwork here. what have you got?

doug
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On Apr 9, 2012, at 6:31 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:

>> don't know where you get your information.
>
> Apple
>
>> i won't hold it against you, however.
>> and negativity cannot get me off my cloud.
>> besides, it happened.
>> believe me.
>
> Right.
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Re: apple stock

Posted by: "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen@earthlink.net   dougyelmen

Mon Apr 9, 2012 6:49 pm (PDT)



when i first went to sell my stock, it had doubled. then within the last few weeks it doubled again.
i am a college educated man, but pretty average in intellect. not like you. so, i assumed the stocks
had doubled. when, in fact, my money doubled. sorry if i used the incorrect terms.
i know how you hate incorrect terms, or people asking for advise, and misspelling words.

doug
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On Apr 9, 2012, at 6:24 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:

>>>> Apple stock has had at least two splints but I couldn't tell you what years those were in.
>>>
>>> <http://investor.apple.com/faq.cfm?FaqSetID=2>
>>>> How many times has Apple stock split?
>>>> There have been three 2-for-1 stock splits. The payable dates were;
>>>> June 15, 1987
>>>> June 21, 2000
>>>> February 28, 2005
>>>
>>> It was about $10 the first time, $70 the second, and $175 the third.
>>
>> not quite right. when i decided to sell the stock, it had split.
>> just within a few weeks it split again.
>> doug
>
> Err ... Doug ... those dates above are when *Apple* says their stock split.
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Re: apple stock

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Mon Apr 9, 2012 6:59 pm (PDT)



>>> don't know where you get your information.
>>
>> Apple
>
> apple. ha. i got the paperwork here. what have you got?
> doug

It certainly shouldn't be necessary to post the exact same information twice on the same day, 12 hours apart, but here's what I have:

<http://investor.apple.com/faq.cfm?FaqSetID=2>
> Stock Split
> How many times has Apple stock split?
> There have been three 2-for-1 stock splits. The payable dates were;
>
> June 15, 1987
> June 21, 2000
> February 28, 2005

I'd show you an image of their web page, but this forum won't accept it.

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3k.

Re: apple stock

Posted by: "Jim Showalter" jshowalt@mindspring.com   jshowalt94127

Mon Apr 9, 2012 7:10 pm (PDT)



Moderators please kill this thread!

On Apr 9, 2012, at 6:49 PM, Doug Yelmen wrote:

> when i first went to sell my stock, it had doubled. then within the last few weeks it doubled again.
> i am a college educated man, but pretty average in intellect. not like you. so, i assumed the stocks
> had doubled. when, in fact, my money doubled. sorry if i used the incorrect terms.
> i know how you hate incorrect terms, or people asking for advise, and misspelling words.
>
> doug
> Doug Yelmen
> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>
> "You have enemies? Good. That means you have stood up for something in your life."
> Sir Winston Churchill
>
> On Apr 9, 2012, at 6:24 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:
>
>>>>> Apple stock has had at least two splints but I couldn't tell you what years those were in.
>>>>
>>>> <http://investor.apple.com/faq.cfm?FaqSetID=2>
>>>>> How many times has Apple stock split?
>>>>> There have been three 2-for-1 stock splits. The payable dates were;
>>>>> June 15, 1987
>>>>> June 21, 2000
>>>>> February 28, 2005
>>>>
>>>> It was about $10 the first time, $70 the second, and $175 the third.
>>>
>>> not quite right. when i decided to sell the stock, it had split.
>>> just within a few weeks it split again.
>>> doug
>>
>> Err ... Doug ... those dates above are when *Apple* says their stock split.
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Re: apple stock

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Mon Apr 9, 2012 7:10 pm (PDT)



> when i first went to sell my stock, it had doubled. then within the last few weeks it doubled again. i am a college educated man, but pretty average in intellect. not like you. so, i assumed the stocks had doubled. when, in fact, my money doubled. sorry if i used the incorrect terms.
> i know how you hate incorrect terms, or people asking for advise, and misspelling words.
> doug

Yep, Apple stock is rising rapidly. It has gone up over 50% so far this year.

When a stock splits, 2-for-1, the stock price DROPS by half. The value of the stock owned by an individual remains the same (except for any buying spree that may drive the price up right after a stock split), because the individual suddenly owns twice as many shares after the split.

I *do* hate incorrect terms, because a help and educational forum is nothing if not a medium for clear communication, and clarity is not possible if sloppy and incorrect terms are used to describe technical things that have a precise definition.

I revel in people asking for advice, at least if it is done in a coherent fashion, as it usually is here, because I am actually pretty good at providing accurate helpful advice.

I don't dislike misspelled words, per se; I dislike that many people don't care whether they're spelled correctly or not, and seem to think proofreading is beneath them.

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3m.

Re: apple stock

Posted by: "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen@earthlink.net   dougyelmen

Mon Apr 9, 2012 7:22 pm (PDT)



well, true to my word, i don't understand the first part of your email.
all i know is, at first 2 shares went up to 4 shares, and then, while i was impatient, it went up to 8 shares at about $630 a share. perhaps that is what tim cook
meant when apple is worth about a trillion dollars, and he said he would do something for the shareholders. who knows. but, trust me. it happened.
and i was very excited. and wanted to share the good news. because i believed it when DD said the stocks might go up to $1000 each.

as to people misspelling words, i think you might be intimidating newcomers, and that is not in forum's best interest.

i have a friend who was a psychology professor. a Ph.D., etc. and she would correct me when i misspelled words, years ago.
since then, she has had a stroke, and it is difficult to follow what she is saying. so, i mostly just joke with her. but not at her expense.

just useful informations. hopefully.

doug
Doug Yelmen
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On Apr 9, 2012, at 7:10 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:

>> when i first went to sell my stock, it had doubled. then within the last few weeks it doubled again. i am a college educated man, but pretty average in intellect. not like you. so, i assumed the stocks had doubled. when, in fact, my money doubled. sorry if i used the incorrect terms.
>> i know how you hate incorrect terms, or people asking for advise, and misspelling words.
>> doug
>
> Yep, Apple stock is rising rapidly. It has gone up over 50% so far this year.
>
> When a stock splits, 2-for-1, the stock price DROPS by half. The value of the stock owned by an individual remains the same (except for any buying spree that may drive the price up right after a stock split), because the individual suddenly owns twice as many shares after the split.
>
> I *do* hate incorrect terms, because a help and educational forum is nothing if not a medium for clear communication, and clarity is not possible if sloppy and incorrect terms are used to describe technical things that have a precise definition.
>
> I revel in people asking for advice, at least if it is done in a coherent fashion, as it usually is here, because I am actually pretty good at providing accurate helpful advice.
>
> I don't dislike misspelled words, per se; I dislike that many people don't care whether they're spelled correctly or not, and seem to think proofreading is beneath them.
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Re: apple stock

Posted by: "Christopher Collins" maclist@analogdigital.com.au   cjc1959au

Mon Apr 9, 2012 7:22 pm (PDT)



So the value of the individual share had doubled, not the number of shares?

If the number of shares had doubled, the the value of each individual share would have halved.

cjc

On 10/04/2012, at 11:49 AM, Doug Yelmen wrote:

> when i first went to sell my stock, it had doubled. then within the last few weeks it doubled again.
> i am a college educated man, but pretty average in intellect. not like you. so, i assumed the stocks
> had doubled. when, in fact, my money doubled. sorry if i used the incorrect terms.
> i know how you hate incorrect terms, or people asking for advise, and misspelling words.
>
> doug
> Doug Yelmen
> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>

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Re: apple stock

Posted by: "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen@earthlink.net   dougyelmen

Mon Apr 9, 2012 7:25 pm (PDT)



well, as i said in an earlier email, the stock, or value of the stock, doubled twice. perhaps i used the wrong terms.
but, the money i am getting is more real than some web page, at least to me. lol.

i think we better "kill this thread" before i get into trouble.

i actually thought people would be glad for me. ha.

thanks for the civil last couple of emails.

but, let's close here. heck, it is a good place to end this.

i feel better.

doug
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On Apr 9, 2012, at 6:59 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:

>>>> don't know where you get your information.
>>>
>>> Apple
>>
>> apple. ha. i got the paperwork here. what have you got?
>> doug
>
> It certainly shouldn't be necessary to post the exact same information twice on the same day, 12 hours apart, but here's what I have:
>
> <http://investor.apple.com/faq.cfm?FaqSetID=2>
>> Stock Split
>> How many times has Apple stock split?
>> There have been three 2-for-1 stock splits. The payable dates were;
>>
>> June 15, 1987
>> June 21, 2000
>> February 28, 2005
>
> I'd show you an image of their web page, but this forum won't accept it.
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Re: apple stock

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Mon Apr 9, 2012 8:19 pm (PDT)



> i actually thought people would be glad for me. ha.

Actually, I am.

I have *never* owned stock in anything.
Except mutual funds, and now my retirement fund -- diversified investments.

I wouldn't mind having bought some Apple stock anywhere from 2 to 15 years ago.

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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

4a.

Re: Terminal question.

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Mon Apr 9, 2012 5:40 pm (PDT)



Jim,

The whole MS-DOS command line interface and batch file system was
essentially a rip-off from Unix in the first place.

Yes, you can create and run Unix script files, but can I ask why you want
to do this? They are not user-friendly by modern standards.

AppleScript is along the same lines but the syntax is entirely different.

Otto

On 9 April 2012 23:25, Jim <oldtechie@wi.rr.com> wrote:

> Not my last question, one about TERMINAL. :-)
> Is there a way to create the equivalent of a .bat [batch file that will
> run the utilities within it. Would Script work that way? I have read about
> script but nothing was mentioned about using it like a batch file.
>

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4b.

Re: Terminal question.

Posted by: "OldTechie" oldtechie@wi.rr.com   jimpurcell2001

Mon Apr 9, 2012 6:23 pm (PDT)



Otto,

> The whole MS-DOS command line interface and batch file system was
> essentially a rip-off from Unix in the first place.
>
I know about the connection, it was not quite a rip off. :-)
>
> Yes, you can create and run Unix script files, but can I ask why you want
> to do this? They are not user-friendly by modern standards
>
I was hoping the there was a simple way to script the change directory from where Opening Terminal dumps me, to my practice dir.
In MS Dos is just created a simple text file insert the commands and give it a .bat extension and call the file name and it does it's thing.

> AppleScript is along the same lines but the syntax is entirely different.
>
What little I remember from applescript and automator was that I didn't figure out how to use them and went on to 'other things'. :-)

And I have a slightly more serious problem that I mentioned in my second message.

Jim

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5a.

Re: Almost forgot important, Can't get into my account folder in fin

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Mon Apr 9, 2012 5:42 pm (PDT)



Did you delete any system files or change any settings during your previous
session?

On 9 April 2012 23:39, Jim <oldtechie@wi.rr.com> wrote:

> Subject says it all. Can't get into my account folder in finder or
> Terminal
>

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5b.

Re: Almost forgot important, Can't get into my account folder in fin

Posted by: "OldTechie" oldtechie@wi.rr.com   jimpurcell2001

Mon Apr 9, 2012 6:26 pm (PDT)



Otto,

Don't think so. Since the error message said that I did not have the permission I rand disk utility and repaired permissions, J.I.C. Not help.

Jim

> Did you delete any system files or change any settings during your previous
> session?

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6.

TidBITS Editors on Flashback Malware

Posted by: "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen@earthlink.net   dougyelmen

Mon Apr 9, 2012 6:54 pm (PDT)



How to Detect and Protect Against Updated Flashback Malware
----------------------------------------------------------
by Adam C. Engst <ace@tidbits.com>
article link: <http://tidbits.com/e/12918>
25 comments

Apple has released updates to its Java libraries for users of Mac OS
X 10.7 Lion and 10.6 Snow Leopard (see "Java for OS X Lion
2012-001 and Java for Mac OS X 10.6 Update 7," 3 April 2012). The
updates bring the Java runtime engine up to version 1.6.0_31 and fix
multiple vulnerabilities in Java version 1.6.0_29, "the most
serious of which may allow an untrusted Java applet to execute
arbitrary code outside the Java sandbox." What those release notes
aren't saying is that the vulnerabilities in question were being
exploited in the wild by a new variant of the Flashback malware (see
"Beware the Morphing Flashback Malware," 27 February 2012).

<http://tidbits.com/article/12911>
<http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5228>
<http://tidbits.com/article/12818>

**Significant Infection Rates** -- A Russian antivirus developer,
Doctor Web, says their research shows more than 550,000 Macs have
been infected after users visited compromised Web sites that contain
JavaScript code to activate a malicious Java applet. Sorokin Ivan of
Doctor Web later raised that estimate to over 600,000 in a tweet.

<http://www.drweb.com/>
<http://news.drweb.com/show/?i=2341&lng=en&c=14>
<https://twitter.com/#!/hexminer/status/187623741273026562>

i am, of course, not quoting the whole article. hopefully, i have included enough info/links
so you can read the article in full.

Doug Yelmen
dougyelmen@earthlink.net

"Have you ever been in love? Horrible isn't it? It makes you so vulnerable. It opens your chest and it opens up your heart and it means that someone can get inside you and mess you up."
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones

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