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Thu Aug 2, 2012 3:51 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Harry Flaxman" hflaxman001
On 8/2/2012 5:05 PM, Michael P. Stupinski wrote:
> That's the problem, Harry. The only version of Lion that I have is the one that came with the new iMac, and it does not have an installer...it's already installed. Guess if I want both machines to have the same system it will have to be Mountain Lion!
I was scanning messages a little too quickly, I guess. I had heard
that Lion was once more available to those who had already purchased
it. I would assume that would be those that bought their machines with
10.7 installed.
I haven't heard of anyone actually pursuing this. This was mentioned in
a periodical's website.
I will try to locate it again and forward the specifics.
H
> That's the problem, Harry. The only version of Lion that I have is the one that came with the new iMac, and it does not have an installer...
I was scanning messages a little too quickly, I guess. I had heard
that Lion was once more available to those who had already purchased
it. I would assume that would be those that bought their machines with
10.7 installed.
I haven't heard of anyone actually pursuing this. This was mentioned in
a periodical's website.
I will try to locate it again and forward the specifics.
H
Thu Aug 2, 2012 4:29 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Michael P. Stupinski" mstupinski
I've heard an incredible punt of conflicting information on this subject, even from Apple, Harry. I was told by an Apple supervisor last week that I could get a copy including the installer by visiting the local Apple store. I called the store and was told I could. Then I left for a week and today I went to the store. They essentially said "No way, they won't let us do that." I hadn't gotten the name of the person I talked to last week, so that ended the conversation.
On Aug 2, 2012, at 6:50 PM, Harry Flaxman <harry.flaxman@me.com > wrote:
> On 8/2/2012 5:05 PM, Michael P. Stupinski wrote:
>> That's the problem, Harry. The only version of Lion that I have is the one that came with the new iMac, and it does not have an installer...it's already installed. Guess if I want both machines to have the same system it will have to be Mountain Lion!
>
> I was scanning messages a little too quickly, I guess. I had heard
> that Lion was once more available to those who had already purchased
> it. I would assume that would be those that bought their machines with
> 10.7 installed.
>
> I haven't heard of anyone actually pursuing this. This was mentioned in
> a periodical's website.
>
> I will try to locate it again and forward the specifics.
>
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On Aug 2, 2012, at 6:50 PM, Harry Flaxman <harry.flaxman@
> On 8/2/2012 5:05 PM, Michael P. Stupinski wrote:
>> That's the problem, Harry. The only version of Lion that I have is the one that came with the new iMac, and it does not have an installer...
>
> I was scanning messages a little too quickly, I guess. I had heard
> that Lion was once more available to those who had already purchased
> it. I would assume that would be those that bought their machines with
> 10.7 installed.
>
> I haven't heard of anyone actually pursuing this. This was mentioned in
> a periodical's website.
>
> I will try to locate it again and forward the specifics.
>
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Thu Aug 2, 2012 5:09 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Daly Jessup" dalyjessup
On Aug 2, 2012, at 7:48 AM, Chris Jones wrote:
> The App Store in iTunes is only for iOS devices. You need to start the
> stand alone 'App Store' application (via the Apple icon in the upper
> left corner, for instance).
>
> That said, I doubt you will find it available there either, as your mac
> came with 10.7 pre-installed, so you didn't originally purchase it from
> the App Store. Not sure what to suggest...
I believe that my current computer, a mid-2011 iMac, came with Snow Leopard. I bought Lion and installed it a few months after it came out.
A few days ago I went to the App Store (NOT iTunes) and held Option while clicking "Purchased". There was NO Lion listed there.
Luckily for me, I had already made several copies of the original installer. I was just trying this to see if I could recommend the procedure to others.
My own guess is that for a little while, Apple was allowing people to re-download Lion by holding Option while clicking the "Purchased" tab but that they quickly withdrew it. I guess that because a number of people said it would work but by the time I tried it, it did not work. I'm really glad for my backups.
Daly
Thu Aug 2, 2012 5:55 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Forrest Leedy" forrkazu
On Aug 2, 2012, at 8:09 PM, Daly Jessup <jessup@san.rr.
>
> On Aug 2, 2012, at 7:48 AM, Chris Jones wrote:
>
>> The App Store in iTunes is only for iOS devices. You need to start the
>> stand alone 'App Store' application (via the Apple icon in the upper
>> left corner, for instance).
>>
>> That said, I doubt you will find it available there either, as your mac
>> came with 10.7 pre-installed, so you didn't originally purchase it from
>> the App Store. Not sure what to suggest...
>
> I believe that my current computer, a mid-2011 iMac, came with Snow Leopard. I bought Lion and installed it a few months after it came out.
>
> A few days ago I went to the App Store (NOT iTunes) and held Option while clicking "Purchased". There was NO Lion listed there.
>
> Luckily for me, I had already made several copies of the original installer. I was just trying this to see if I could recommend the procedure to others.
>
> My own guess is that for a little while, Apple was allowing people to re-download Lion by holding Option while clicking the "Purchased" tab but that they quickly withdrew it. I guess that because a number of people said it would work but by the time I tried it, it did not work. I'm really glad for my backups.
>
> Daly
That is strange as I am in the same situation and I just now went to the AppStore and held down the option button while clicking the purchased button and both Lion and Mountain Lion where there and I could download both if I wanted to.
Forrest
iMac 27" 12,2
3.1 GHz Intel Core i5
12 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
OS 10.8 Mountain Lion
MacBook 2,1
2.16 GHz Core 2 Duo
2 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
OS 10.7.4 Lion
Thu Aug 2, 2012 6:21 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Daly Jessup" dalyjessup
On Aug 2, 2012, at 5:55 PM, Forrest Leedy wrote:
> That is strange as I am in the same situation and I just now went to the AppStore and held down the option button while clicking the purchased button and both Lion and Mountain Lion where there and I could download both if I wanted to.
My only guess is that I bought it under another Apple ID, since deactivated during my long long call to Apple about Apple IDs.
I'll just be grateful I have a backup. I don't even want to THINK about calling them about this and possibly getting my Apple IDs changed again!
Daly
Thu Aug 2, 2012 6:34 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
>> The part of the answer is that I tend to be more of a dinosaur than an early adopter, Chris.
>
> ... And we al know what happened to the dinosaurs ....
Yep.
Some of them died out, and some of them evolved -- into things like ostriches, and chickens, and peregrine falcons....
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
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> ... And we al know what happened to the dinosaurs ....
Yep.
Some of them died out, and some of them evolved -- into things like ostriches, and chickens, and peregrine falcons....
--
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
Thu Aug 2, 2012 3:53 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
You can burn data CDs/DVDs using Finder. You can burn music CDs using
iTunes. Is there some other kind you want to do, or are you asking about
external hardware? Does your Mac not have a Combo Drive or SuperDrive?
Otto
On 2 August 2012 21:44, Gary <wx1u@maine.rr.com > wrote:
> I'm looking for a good mac burner that doesn't cost too much. I've a Mac
> OS X 10.4.11. Any suggestions?
>
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iTunes. Is there some other kind you want to do, or are you asking about
external hardware? Does your Mac not have a Combo Drive or SuperDrive?
Otto
On 2 August 2012 21:44, Gary <wx1u@maine.rr.
> I'm looking for a good mac burner that doesn't cost too much. I've a Mac
> OS X 10.4.11. Any suggestions?
>
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Thu Aug 2, 2012 5:53 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Gary" outback029
I don't believe it does..i want to burn videos like I did on my Pc with Nero but of course that's not for Macs.
Would this suffice???
Operating Systems Supported: Mac OS
System Requirements: Mac OS X 10.2.6 or higher 256Mb Ram 700MB of free HD space to burn roughly 80 minutes of audio to CD A CD burner (for CD burning capability) or a DVD burner (for DVD burning capability) compatible with Mac OS X PLEASE NOTE: Disc Image (ISO & DMG) creation functionality only available under Mac OS X 10.3 or later.
Packaging: Retail
Features: Burn data CDs and DVDs Burn audio CDs Burn multiple sessions to the same CD (including mixed audio/data CDs) Save and load "Burn Lists" Create a compilation audio CD using multiple CDs Burn existing disc image files Create a new ISO and DMG disc image file* Make an ISO or DMG image of an existing folder or volume* Burn discs that can be read on Macs, PCs or both Erase re-writable media for reuse (such as CD-RW disc...
Model #: 00199-1
Item #: N82E16832222044
Return Policy: Software Standard Return Policy
$27.99
$1.99 Shipping
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:
>
> You can burn data CDs/DVDs using Finder. You can burn music CDs using
> iTunes. Is there some other kind you want to do, or are you asking about
> external hardware? Does your Mac not have a Combo Drive or SuperDrive?
>
> Otto
>
> On 2 August 2012 21:44, Gary <wx1u@...> wrote:
>
> > I'm looking for a good mac burner that doesn't cost too much. I've a Mac
> > OS X 10.4.11. Any suggestions?
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Would this suffice???
Operating Systems Supported: Mac OS
System Requirements: Mac OS X 10.2.6 or higher 256Mb Ram 700MB of free HD space to burn roughly 80 minutes of audio to CD A CD burner (for CD burning capability) or a DVD burner (for DVD burning capability) compatible with Mac OS X PLEASE NOTE: Disc Image (ISO & DMG) creation functionality only available under Mac OS X 10.3 or later.
Packaging: Retail
Features: Burn data CDs and DVDs Burn audio CDs Burn multiple sessions to the same CD (including mixed audio/data CDs) Save and load "Burn Lists" Create a compilation audio CD using multiple CDs Burn existing disc image files Create a new ISO and DMG disc image file* Make an ISO or DMG image of an existing folder or volume* Burn discs that can be read on Macs, PCs or both Erase re-writable media for reuse (such as CD-RW disc...
Model #: 00199-1
Item #: N82E16832222044
Return Policy: Software Standard Return Policy
$27.99
$1.99 Shipping
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> You can burn data CDs/DVDs using Finder. You can burn music CDs using
> iTunes. Is there some other kind you want to do, or are you asking about
> external hardware? Does your Mac not have a Combo Drive or SuperDrive?
>
> Otto
>
> On 2 August 2012 21:44, Gary <wx1u@...> wrote:
>
> > I'm looking for a good mac burner that doesn't cost too much. I've a Mac
> > OS X 10.4.11. Any suggestions?
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Thu Aug 2, 2012 3:53 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Harry Flaxman" hflaxman001
On 8/2/2012 6:22 PM, neelie wrote:
> --- Inmacsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , "neelie"<neeliec2000@...> wrote:
>> >
>> >Earlier today I used Onyx to clear my browser and user caches.
>> >
>> >Ever since then I'm having a HUGE issue with SLOWNESS. Every window, every application, every EVERYTHING is taking ages and ages to open.
>> >
>> >Is this because the computer has to sort of "rebuild" the files each time I open something new?
>> >
>> >Plus I'm getting a lot of "script errors."
>> >
>> >I've never had this problem using Cache Out X
>> >
>> >Running 10.6.8 on a 24" iMac, circa 2007.
>> >
>> >Any suggestions?
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >neelie
>> >
> Forgive for I have sinned - I forgot to say which browser(s) I'm using.
>
> The worst of the slowness is happening in Firefox 14.0.1, but Safari 5.1.7 is almost as slow.
>
FWIW, I NEVER clear any system caches unless I'm having major problems.
The system will run more quickly as well, by leaving these cache files
alone.
I do use Onyx, and have cleared system and app caches, but have never
had any problem doing so.
A little too late to help you at this point, but it might be helpful FFR.
Harry
> --- Inmacsupportcentral
>> >
>> >Earlier today I used Onyx to clear my browser and user caches.
>> >
>> >Ever since then I'm having a HUGE issue with SLOWNESS. Every window, every application, every EVERYTHING is taking ages and ages to open.
>> >
>> >Is this because the computer has to sort of "rebuild" the files each time I open something new?
>> >
>> >Plus I'm getting a lot of "script errors."
>> >
>> >I've never had this problem using Cache Out X
>> >
>> >Running 10.6.8 on a 24" iMac, circa 2007.
>> >
>> >Any suggestions?
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >neelie
>> >
> Forgive for I have sinned - I forgot to say which browser(s) I'm using.
>
> The worst of the slowness is happening in Firefox 14.0.1, but Safari 5.1.7 is almost as slow.
>
FWIW, I NEVER clear any system caches unless I'm having major problems.
The system will run more quickly as well, by leaving these cache files
alone.
I do use Onyx, and have cleared system and app caches, but have never
had any problem doing so.
A little too late to help you at this point, but it might be helpful FFR.
Harry
Thu Aug 2, 2012 5:27 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Chris Christman" myhomeseller
Howdy!
I might suggest running Activity Monitor to see what's going on. It may be that you chose to rebuild Spotlight.
I use Onyx all the time and have never had a problem.
Also checkout Applejack. Great program, and it's free!
Thanks!
myhomeseller
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I might suggest running Activity Monitor to see what's going on. It may be that you chose to rebuild Spotlight.
I use Onyx all the time and have never had a problem.
Also checkout Applejack. Great program, and it's free!
Thanks!
myhomeseller
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Thu Aug 2, 2012 4:06 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
On 2 August 2012 22:54, James Robertson <jamesrob@sonic.net > wrote:
>
> People with much more knowledge than I should respond as well, but I must
> be misreading this statement. Your 1 to many seconds "freezes" could be
> PRECISELY the fault of a failing hard drive containing your operating
> system as the CPU attempts to fetch information from a drive that's having
> trouble providing it. Indeed, the fact that the OS installed on another
> drive works fine would make me worry MORE about my boot drive. My response
> wouldn't be to wipe it and reinstall onto it; my response would be to copy
> the information that's on it that I need before it becomes truly unreadable.
>
Yes. I would make a full clone using CCC or SD *as soon as possible*. Don't
mess about deciding what you think you need, just copy the lot!
Next step: boot from the clone and see if the problems persist.
Otto
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>
> People with much more knowledge than I should respond as well, but I must
> be misreading this statement. Your 1 to many seconds "freezes" could be
> PRECISELY the fault of a failing hard drive containing your operating
> system as the CPU attempts to fetch information from a drive that's having
> trouble providing it. Indeed, the fact that the OS installed on another
> drive works fine would make me worry MORE about my boot drive. My response
> wouldn't be to wipe it and reinstall onto it; my response would be to copy
> the information that's on it that I need before it becomes truly unreadable.
>
Yes. I would make a full clone using CCC or SD *as soon as possible*. Don't
mess about deciding what you think you need, just copy the lot!
Next step: boot from the clone and see if the problems persist.
Otto
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Thu Aug 2, 2012 4:15 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Kunga" taylor_barcroft
I see. But if you have a Mac mini with a Thunderbolt port form last summer then it also has a FW 800 port as well as a HDMI port that supports 1920 x 1200. So I'm confused about who says they have a Mac mini with Thunderbolt and no FW 800. In fact I expect that to continue in the next new Mac mini because those are the ports on the regular new NON-Retina USB 3 MacBook Pros.
So who has a Thunderbolt Mac mini without the FW800 port? I'm pretty sure there is no such model.
On Aug 2, 2012, at 3:34 PM, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com > wrote:
> If you can find one, let us know. I can't. There were never any FW <-> USB
> 2 adapters either, for technical reasons that also apply to FW <-> USB 3.
>
> Otto
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So who has a Thunderbolt Mac mini without the FW800 port? I'm pretty sure there is no such model.
On Aug 2, 2012, at 3:34 PM, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@
> If you can find one, let us know. I can't. There were never any FW <-> USB
> 2 adapters either, for technical reasons that also apply to FW <-> USB 3.
>
> Otto
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Thu Aug 2, 2012 4:28 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
I don't see any mention of a Mac mini in this thread, just news of a TB >
FW adapter becoming available.
Otto
On 3 August 2012 00:14, Kunga <kunga@futuremedia.org > wrote:
> I see. But if you have a Mac mini with a Thunderbolt port form last summer
> then it also has a FW 800 port as well as a HDMI port that supports 1920 x
> 1200. So I'm confused about who says they have a Mac mini with Thunderbolt
> and no FW 800. In fact I expect that to continue in the next new Mac mini
> because those are the ports on the regular new NON-Retina USB 3 MacBook
> Pros.
>
> So who has a Thunderbolt Mac mini without the FW800 port? I'm pretty sure
> there is no such model.
>
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FW adapter becoming available.
Otto
On 3 August 2012 00:14, Kunga <kunga@futuremedia.
> I see. But if you have a Mac mini with a Thunderbolt port form last summer
> then it also has a FW 800 port as well as a HDMI port that supports 1920 x
> 1200. So I'm confused about who says they have a Mac mini with Thunderbolt
> and no FW 800. In fact I expect that to continue in the next new Mac mini
> because those are the ports on the regular new NON-Retina USB 3 MacBook
> Pros.
>
> So who has a Thunderbolt Mac mini without the FW800 port? I'm pretty sure
> there is no such model.
>
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Thu Aug 2, 2012 4:31 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"halboye18" halboye18
Thanks Jim and Kathy ... I will try both methods when I am in an area with good service ... some of the RV parks we hit have lousy/no service.
Hal
hal.horwitz@comcast.net
Hal
hal.horwitz@
Thu Aug 2, 2012 4:36 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Gary" outback029
Hi Otto,
I guess I should have posted it. What do you want to know. It's the first Mac I've had. I didn't realize ITunes burned cds. It worked
I thought I had to buy software. But the dvds I can't see it doing them?
Thanks
Gary
Hi Gary,
It depends. You need to tell us more about your Mac and what you want to do.Ê
Did you mean to reply privately to me, not the group?
Otto
I guess I should have posted it. What do you want to know. It's the first Mac I've had. I didn't realize ITunes burned cds. It worked
I thought I had to buy software. But the dvds I can't see it doing them?
Thanks
Gary
Hi Gary,
It depends. You need to tell us more about your Mac and what you want to do.Ê
Did you mean to reply privately to me, not the group?
Otto
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