4/03/2012

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1.1.

Re: How to bypass the trash bin

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Tue Apr 3, 2012 7:08 am (PDT)



On Apr 2, 2012, at 5:04 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
> That is because as Barry pointed out it is no a temporary storage area. If the Trash were not being used as temp storage, you could delete just the 50GB you put into it.

Trash is quite literally a temporary storage location. One might argue over how long I suppose. If your answer is zero, then the whole thing is a total waste. Why bother. At the other extreme, Apple clearly designed it to store "forever." Personally, I consider this flawed thinking as well, but that's just my opinion.

Somewhere in between zero and forever seems like a reasonable answer. I would think the actual answer is personal and based on needs. Trash is simply a container. It has no more need to be empty than any other folder.

Cheers,
tod

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com

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Re: How to bypass the trash bin

Posted by: "Jon Kreisler" jonkreisler@gmail.com   jonkreisler

Tue Apr 3, 2012 7:29 am (PDT)



If you want to bypass "Trash" completely, in the Terminal application,
enter the following command:

sudo rm /path/to/filename

Substitute the appropriate filename info for "/path/to/filename" OR,
leave a space after "rm" and then drag a file from Finder onto the Terminal
window prior to hitting "enter" to complete the pathname for you. Then hit
"enter" once the pathname is displayed.
You will be prompted to enter an administrator password. Enter the correct
password and the file is deleted without using Trash.

Jon

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Tod Hopkins <hoplist@hillmanncarr.com>wrote:

> **
>
>
> On Apr 2, 2012, at 5:04 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
> > That is because as Barry pointed out it is no a temporary storage area.
> If the Trash were not being used as temp storage, you could delete just the
> 50GB you put into it.
>
> Trash is quite literally a temporary storage location. One might argue
> over how long I suppose. If your answer is zero, then the whole thing is a
> total waste. Why bother. At the other extreme, Apple clearly designed it to
> store "forever." Personally, I consider this flawed thinking as well, but
> that's just my opinion.
>
> Somewhere in between zero and forever seems like a reasonable answer. I
> would think the actual answer is personal and based on needs. Trash is
> simply a container. It has no more need to be empty than any other folder.
>
> Cheers,
> tod
>
>
> Tod Hopkins
> Hillmann & Carr Inc.
> todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com
>
>

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Re: How to bypass the trash bin

Posted by: "Chris Jones" jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk   bobstermcbob

Tue Apr 3, 2012 7:37 am (PDT)



On 03/04/12 15:29, Jon Kreisler wrote:
> If you want to bypass "Trash" completely, in the Terminal application,
> enter the following command:
>
> sudo rm /path/to/filename
>
> Substitute the appropriate filename info for "/path/to/filename" OR,
> leave a space after "rm" and then drag a file from Finder onto the Terminal
> window prior to hitting "enter" to complete the pathname for you. Then hit
> "enter" once the pathname is displayed.
> You will be prompted to enter an administrator password. Enter the correct
> password and the file is deleted without using Trash.

sudo is *only* needed if you wish to delete file you do not own. If you
are deleting your own files (from ~/ for instance) then best to not use it

> rm /path/to/filename

will work just fine.

To remove a directory, just do

> rm -rf /path/to/directory

Chris

>
> Jon
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Tod Hopkins<hoplist@hillmanncarr.com>wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> On Apr 2, 2012, at 5:04 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
>>> That is because as Barry pointed out it is no a temporary storage area.
>> If the Trash were not being used as temp storage, you could delete just the
>> 50GB you put into it.
>>
>> Trash is quite literally a temporary storage location. One might argue
>> over how long I suppose. If your answer is zero, then the whole thing is a
>> total waste. Why bother. At the other extreme, Apple clearly designed it to
>> store "forever." Personally, I consider this flawed thinking as well, but
>> that's just my opinion.
>>
>> Somewhere in between zero and forever seems like a reasonable answer. I
>> would think the actual answer is personal and based on needs. Trash is
>> simply a container. It has no more need to be empty than any other folder.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> tod
>>
>>
>> Tod Hopkins
>> Hillmann& Carr Inc.
>> todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com
>>
>>
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Re: How to bypass the trash bin

Posted by: "OldTechie" oldtechie@wi.rr.com   jimpurcell2001

Tue Apr 3, 2012 7:44 am (PDT)



But aren't you both forgetting to say 'go to terminal'?

Jim

>
> > sudo rm /path/to/filename
>
> > rm /path/to/filename
>
> will work just fine.
>
> To remove a directory, just do
>
> > rm -rf /path/to/directory

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Re: How to bypass the trash bin

Posted by: "Chris Jones" jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk   bobstermcbob

Tue Apr 3, 2012 8:32 am (PDT)




On 3 Apr 2012, at 3:44pm, OldTechie wrote:

> But aren't you both forgetting to say 'go to terminal'?

No. Jon said "in the Terminal application". I think that is enough.

> Jim
>
>>
>>> sudo rm /path/to/filename
>>
>>> rm /path/to/filename
>>
>> will work just fine.
>>
>> To remove a directory, just do
>>
>>> rm -rf /path/to/directory
>
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Re: How to bypass the trash bin

Posted by: "OldTechie" oldtechie@wi.rr.com   jimpurcell2001

Tue Apr 3, 2012 8:40 am (PDT)



Chris ,

Guess I missed that, do it all the time.

Jim
>
> > But aren't you both forgetting to say 'go to terminal'?
>
> No. Jon said "in the Terminal application". I think that is enough.
>

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1.7.

Re: How to bypass the trash bin

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Tue Apr 3, 2012 9:12 am (PDT)



On 2 April 2012 17:23, Tod Hopkins <hoplist@hillmanncarr.com> wrote:

>
> Trash isolates by user, even on externals set to ignore permissions. If I
> clear a drive using Trash, and hand it to someone else, it's still full,
> and there is no way for the other user to "empty" the Trash. This happens
> frequently to me, requiring a phone call to get permission to "erase" the
> drive.
>

Tod,

When you "clear a drive" and hand it to someone else, what is left on it?
What will they use it for?

Otto

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1.8.

Re: How to bypass the trash bin

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Tue Apr 3, 2012 10:46 am (PDT)



> When you "clear a drive" and hand it to someone else, what is left on it?
> What will they use it for?
>

When I clear drives, nothing or only what I intend the recipient to see. After years of Trash causing me grief, I'm pretty ruthless about making sure everything is wiped. I will backup files, erase, and restore before I leave "Trash" on a drive. Often I cannot easily "empty" the trash because it was not created with my user. And I do not wish to empty my system's trash merely to clear an external drive.

My work is Media production. The drives will be used for transport, editing, or field recordings. I am the systems manager and manage several dozen external drives.

This, by the way, is NOT my main use of Graveyard. I use Graveyard to manage the space on my own media drives. Graveyard will not remove protected files, so it can't delete ".trash" folders. I reformat drives to accomplish this (partition/erase). In theory, I could use Terminal, but it's so many steps to find and delete the hidden trash files with terminal that I rarely bother. Backup, erase, restore.

Cheers,
tod

On Apr 3, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:

> On 2 April 2012 17:23, Tod Hopkins <hoplist@hillmanncarr.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Trash isolates by user, even on externals set to ignore permissions. If I
> > clear a drive using Trash, and hand it to someone else, it's still full,
> > and there is no way for the other user to "empty" the Trash. This happens
> > frequently to me, requiring a phone call to get permission to "erase" the
> > drive.
> >
>
> Tod,
>
>
>
> Otto
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com

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2a.

Re: Streaming video with VLC?

Posted by: "Chris Jones" jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk   bobstermcbob

Tue Apr 3, 2012 7:15 am (PDT)



Hi,

> Other suggestions?

Rip the DVD to an mp4 file, then add it to itunes and share it that way,
by sharing your itunes libraries between the two machines.

cheers Chris

>
> Thanks,
> Dave
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Re: Streaming video with VLC?

Posted by: "DaveC" davec2468@yahoo.com   davec2468

Tue Apr 3, 2012 7:52 am (PDT)



>Rip the DVD to an mp4 file, then add it to itunes and share it that way,
>by sharing your itunes libraries between the two machines.
>
>cheers Chris

-=-=-=-

Yes, ripping the DVD is one way. But it's time (and processor)
intensive. I want to find a way to just pop the DVD in the drive (of
the mini) and watch it on my other Mac (on the same LAN).

I think VLC will let me do this, but it's currently not "playing nice".

Dave

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Re: Streaming video with VLC?

Posted by: "pat412255" pat412@mac.com   pat412255

Tue Apr 3, 2012 8:56 am (PDT)





--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, DaveC <davec2468@...> wrote:
>
> >One way to view a DVD from a different Mac might be to use DVD
> >sharing, like the Macbook Air does...
> >[Paul C.]
>
> -=-=-=-
>
> Using OS X's disc sharing capabilities to share a DVD movie disc,
> neither the MB Air nor mini are supported:
>
> "MacBook Air and Mac mini do not support playing DVD movies or audio
> CD media with Remote Disc. ... To play DVD movies, audio CD media, or
> copy-protected discs on the MacBook Air or Mac mini, use the MacBook
> Air SuperDrive."
>
> from:
>
I rip DVDs to the hard drive of my iMac using an application called RipIt & then transfer them to my Macbook Air via Air Drop. I am running Lion on both computers.
> <http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2057>
>
> Other suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
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3a.

Re: I dug up my Unix for the Mac book circa 2003

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Tue Apr 3, 2012 7:38 am (PDT)



> What do you want to do? Terminal works fine with the default settings (although you might not like the font size and colour!).

Which are very easy to change in Terminal's preferences.

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Re: I dug up my Unix for the Mac book circa 2003

Posted by: "OldTechie" oldtechie@wi.rr.com   jimpurcell2001

Tue Apr 3, 2012 7:47 am (PDT)



Jim,

And speaking of Terminal, Does anyone find the terminal display rather confusing, at least mine is. Theres a space after each letter. That is, if not confusing, at least annoying.

Jim

> > What do you want to do? Terminal works fine with the default settings (although you might not like the font size and colour!).
>
> Which are very easy to change in Terminal's preferences.
>
>

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Re: I dug up my Unix for the Mac book circa 2003

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Tue Apr 3, 2012 8:02 am (PDT)



>>> What do you want to do? Terminal works fine with the default settings (although you might not like the font size and colour!).
>>
>> Which are very easy to change in Terminal's preferences.
>
> And speaking of Terminal, Does anyone find the terminal display rather confusing, at least mine is. Theres a space after each letter. That is, if not confusing, at least annoying.
> Jim

Speaking of Terminal -- Preferences, character spacing, line spacing, font, and font size are all selectable (Terminal -- Preferences... -- Settings -- Text -- Font -- Change).

I have found that the appearance of s p a c e d - o u t lettering is dependent on the choice of font and character spacing.

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Re: I dug up my Unix for the Mac book circa 2003

Posted by: "OldTechie" oldtechie@wi.rr.com   jimpurcell2001

Tue Apr 3, 2012 8:17 am (PDT)



Jim,

Wow, that's right, never noticed that part to the font prefs.

TNX, I changed the spacing right away.

Jim
> Speaking of Terminal -- Preferences, character spacing, line spacing, font, and font size are all selectable (Terminal -- Preferences... -- Settings -- Text -- Font -- Change).
>

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Re: iCloud and spam

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Tue Apr 3, 2012 7:39 am (PDT)



> Has anyone else noticed a huge increase in spam since switching to iCloud?
> Barb

I noticed a huge increase in softcore porn/Hotmail spam NOT related to iCloud, but that seems to have cured itself.

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Re: iCloud and spam

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Tue Apr 3, 2012 7:42 am (PDT)



>> Has anyone else noticed a huge increase in spam since switching to iCloud?
>
> No, but I did notice a big increase a year ago when I joined 3 public yahoo lists, and several others on these lists have also seen the same spam.

Over the last 2 months, Spamsieve has caught about 1 spam message per day....

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Re: iCloud and spam

Posted by: "Rob Frankel" rob@robfrankel.com   robfrankeldotcom

Tue Apr 3, 2012 8:00 am (PDT)



At 10:42 AM -0400 4/3/12, Jim Saklad wrote thusly:
> >> Has anyone else noticed a huge increase in spam since switching to iCloud?
>>
>> No, but I did notice a big increase a year ago when I joined 3
>>public yahoo lists, and several others on these lists have also
>>seen the same spam.
>
>Over the last 2 months, Spamsieve has caught about 1 spam message per day....
>

Not enough credit goes to SpamSieve, IMHO. The ISP's pay lip service
to some, can become a nuisance to some, cause problems with some and
in some cases, actually do help limit the obvious spam.

But if you're diligent about training it, SpamSieve does an
incredibly effective job in filtering out spam that makes it to your
mail app. Also, the developer is diligent about updates and
compliance.

Well worth the money, as far as I'm concerned. I've been using it for years.

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Re: iCloud and spam

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Tue Apr 3, 2012 8:08 am (PDT)



>>>> Has anyone else noticed a huge increase in spam since switching to iCloud?
>>>
>>> No, but I did notice a big increase a year ago when I joined 3 public yahoo lists, and several others on these lists have also seen the same spam.
>>
>> Over the last 2 months, Spamsieve has caught about 1 spam message per day....
>
> Not enough credit goes to SpamSieve, IMHO. The ISP's pay lip service to some, can become a nuisance to some, cause problems with some and in some cases, actually do help limit the obvious spam.

Most people don't realize how much spam is out there, and how much even a sloppy and uncooperative ISP filters out of your email stream.

Wikipedia:
> As of August 2010, the amount of spam was estimated to be around 200 billion spam messages sent per day.
>
> More than 97% of all emails sent over the net are unwanted, according to a Microsoft security report.
>
> MAAWG estimates that 85% of incoming mail is "abusive email", as of the second half of 2007. The sample size for the MAAWG's study was over 100 million mailboxes.

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5a.

Re: Making an ebook question

Posted by: "Jurgen Richter" yahoo-1@sympatico.ca   epsongroups

Tue Apr 3, 2012 7:42 am (PDT)



John R wrote:

The complete file is now a RFTD file with images. I can make a pdf, but
the dimensions are so large, I can't force the pdf to smaller
dimensions, or can I from the app TextEdit?

Unless you found another phone app that can open the RFTD file, you
don't have a lot of choice. While the app you mentioned cannot do what
you want, you can however copy thoses PDFs (under Finder) and re-crop
them to better fit your phone using Preview as the application. If you
have Acrobat Pro (not Reader) you can crop and resize there as well. If
it was me, I'd reslice the images to fit on my phone in Landscape mode,
maximizing width and scrolling the height.
You can also resize your PDF files in Photoshop.

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6a.

iMovie HD - Universal or PPC?

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com   hflaxman001

Tue Apr 3, 2012 10:53 am (PDT)



Can someone answer the question as stated in the subject line? I was just wondering if iMovie HD will run under 10.7.

I own iLife '06, but don't really want to dig for it until I find out one way or the other.

Mucho Thanks!!!

Harry

Harold Flaxman
harry.flaxman@me.com

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Re: iMovie HD - Universal or PPC?

Posted by: "Jon Kreisler" jonkreisler@gmail.com   jonkreisler

Tue Apr 3, 2012 12:10 pm (PDT)



Hi Harry,
I have v 6.0.3 of iMovie HD. It is Universal and runs on Lion (OS X 10.7)
Jon

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Harry Flaxman <harry.flaxman@me.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Can someone answer the question as stated in the subject line? I was just
> wondering if iMovie HD will run under 10.7.
>
> I own iLife '06, but don't really want to dig for it until I find out one
> way or the other.
>
> Mucho Thanks!!!
>
> Harry
>
> Harold Flaxman
> harry.flaxman@me.com
>
>
>

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Re: Safari Bookmarks seem only to be added, grouped byi date

Posted by: "Lyle Syverson" lutefisk4me2@sbcglobal.net   lyle837

Tue Apr 3, 2012 11:39 am (PDT)



On Apr 2, 2012, at 11:06 AM, Jim wrote:

> I have added many bookmarks to Safari. But when I click show all bookmarks they are only listed by dated groups. Is there a way to show them all in say alphabetical order?
>
> Jim
>
Check out SafariSort <http://www.safarisort.com/>

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Re: Safari Bookmarks seem only to be added, grouped byi date

Posted by: "Terry Pogue" tpogue@comcast.net   terrypogue_2000

Tue Apr 3, 2012 12:10 pm (PDT)



I use an application called Bookdog that automatically arranges your bookmarks alphabetically. It runs in the background once a day, I think. I rarely know when it works. When I first add a bookmark it will be at the end but if I look for it the next day it's been filed.
Terry

Sent from my iPadHD

On Apr 3, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Lyle Syverson <lutefisk4me2@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> On Apr 2, 2012, at 11:06 AM, Jim wrote:
>
>> I have added many bookmarks to Safari. But when I click show all bookmarks they are only listed by dated groups. Is there a way to show them all in say alphabetical order?
>>
>> Jim
>>
> Check out SafariSort <http://www.safarisort.com/>
>
> Lyle Syverson
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Re: I seem to have committed Mac/Computer hair Kari [SP?]

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Tue Apr 3, 2012 12:06 pm (PDT)




On Apr 2, 2012, at 11:49 PM, Don wrote:

> Brent
>
> Globally === Set icon size in ALL folders.
>
> I have been setting Icon size in individual folders since 10.4.6. I asked about setting icon size globally.
>
> Show View Options DOES NOT set icon size in "all Finder windows". It only sets the icon size in the current window, and in all directories created in the future, if [Use As Defaults] is selected.
>
> I want to set the icon size in several hundred windows. Show View Options does not do that.

OH! You're using icon view! Sorry, I use list or column view, and was thinking that way. Let me try it in icon view.

OK, it works for me in icon view, in 10.7.3, in all current and new windows.

At sometime in the past did you added a third party app that altered or tweaked this function?

Brent
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