4/05/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 8833

Messages In This Digest (10 Messages)

1.1.
Re: How to bypass the trash bin From: Tod Hopkins
2a.
Re: Apple Releases Java Update From: James Robertson
3.
Re: Digest Number 8831 From: Peter Gold
4a.
Re: Streaming video with VLC? From: DaveC
4b.
Re: Streaming video with VLC? From: Otto Nikolaus
4c.
Re: Streaming video with VLC? From: DaveC
5a.
Re: Replacing MobileMe Gallery From: Denver Dan
6.
Password Oops! From: Jim
7a.
Re: old software From: Louise Stewart
7b.
Re: old software From: Louise Stewart

Messages

1.1.

Re: How to bypass the trash bin

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Wed Apr 4, 2012 5:54 am (PDT)



On Apr 3, 2012, at 7:15 PM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
> I'm still missing something here. Why do you not simply erase (format) the
> drive before copying to it only what you want?

The conversation is wandering over related topics. I do erase or repartition drives I wish to completely clear. Unrelated to my need for true delete.

Why I delete with Graveyard rather than using Trash:

Graveyard allows me to do in one step, rather than two, something I do many times a day - delete files specifically to clear space.

Further, because I use Graveyard, I do not have to empty my Trash many times a day. This permits Trash to do what it was designed to do - protect me from mistakes when casually deleting files.

I use Graveyard only when I am confident that I want to delete a file AND clear the space. I use Trash for everything else. I keep my Trash for a long time. If anyone was following the threads on how Time Machine backs up, and the potential "holes" in TM backups, one can see that allowing Trash accumulate for a significant period of time adds an extra layer of "undelete" protection.

Cheers,
tod

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com

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2a.

Re: Apple Releases Java Update

Posted by: "James Robertson" jamesrob@sonic.net   jamesrob328i

Wed Apr 4, 2012 6:32 am (PDT)




On Apr 3, 2012, at 7:06 PM, Robert wrote:

> For Lion and Snow Leopard. Although Apple has not specifically identified that this will fix the major vulnerability recently discussed by CNET and others, hopefully this fixes it.

When I checked Software Update from my Mac Pro, I was told my software was already up to date. So, I followed the link to Apple's support site in your email and downloaded the .dmg file. When I tried to open it in the Finder, up came an alert dialog I've NEVER seen before, with the following text:

> There may be a problem with this disk image. Are you sure you want to open it?
>
> Opening this disk image may make your computer less secure or cause other problems.

So, I opened Java Preferences, which told me I'd need to install a Java Runtime, and it downloaded and installed Java SE 6 1.6.0_31-b04-413 (without scaring me first).

It's possible I've used the Java applets I need in my medical practice exclusively from the Windows VM on my Mac Pro since installing Lion (the Java applets sometimes have problems with my two-monitor setup when painting windows on the screen, and the encapsulated environment of the VM shields the applets from figuring out two-monitor screen real estate).

Still, I'd never seen this warning dialog from prior versions of the Mac OS when updating Java. Has anyone else seen it?

Thanks,
Jim Robertson

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3.

Re: Digest Number 8831

Posted by: "Peter Gold" peter@knowhowpro.com   idmacguy

Wed Apr 4, 2012 7:36 am (PDT)



Thank you, Otto!

I don't read every post or issue of the digest, and I often scan lightly
rather than paying close attention. I thought, looks like mistakenly, that
I'd seen a mention of what wiping a drive really does.

BTW, I owe whomever it was that described the imperfect tracing of a data
track with an erasing track as analogous to driving a tire perfectly
congruent its earlier track in snow or mud.

As a former analog silver-halide-based photographer, I learned that perfect
edges are not attainable, no matter how fine the silver grains are. The
reasons are 1, no matter what the nominal grain size (fine/low ISO, or
coarse/high ISO) grains aren't all exactly the same size; and 2, if a
single photon hits and activates a single grain, that energy bump often
bumps and activates one or more adjacent grains that weren't hit by the
photon. I thought this idea might help clarify things a little better than
the tire track. Glad you liked it.

As to relying on erased Trash for secure removal, vs. UNIX "rm" commands in
Terminal, it's the same issue of erasing with a tool that follows the
recording track more-or-less exactly. The main difference with rm commands
is that they're instant and not reversible. rm-d stuff is almost-guaranteed
to be gone forever, unless those infinite bucks are available to attempt
recovering the bits of fuzz. Trash commands are reversible for a while,
depending on what's being recorded on the drive, and whether it overwrites
the tracks freed by Empty Trash. This is probably because the Apple's "do
no harm" ethic attempts to give the user an undo option for a while,
but UNIX is heartless.

Regards,

Peter
_______________________
Peter Gold

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 7:23 PM, <macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

>
> Thanks Peter,
>
> But I think this is a different topic: we were talking about the need for a
> Trash/Recycle Bin (and the emptying of same) whereas you are describing the
> issues of securely erasing a drive.
>
> Good analogy though. Best I've seen. :)
>
> Otto
>

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4a.

Re: Streaming video with VLC?

Posted by: "DaveC" davec2468@yahoo.com   davec2468

Wed Apr 4, 2012 11:20 am (PDT)



It turned out to be much simpler than I thought:

Insert the DVD in the old mini. Quit any DVD player that wants to start.

(Make sure you've got the user name & password for the old mini.)

Open VLC on the new mini.
Choose File > "Open Disc...".
Choose the Disc tab, click on "VIDEO_TS Folder" button, click the
"browse" button, and navigate to the old mini.
Click "Connect as..." and enter user name & password for the old mini.
Open the DVD disc and choose the "VIDEO_TS" folder.
Click the Open button.

It plays! As if it were in a local DVD drive.

It's a little bandwidth sensitive, but not terribly. I can't download
large files without VLC "hiccuping" or closing the window, but
otherwise it's like I have a DVD drive in the new mini...

Thanks for "listening"...

Dave

4b.

Re: Streaming video with VLC?

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Wed Apr 4, 2012 4:06 pm (PDT)



That's good to know.

Of course, DVD bit-rates are high by the standards of networks of just a
few years ago. Is this via wifi

Otto

On 4 April 2012 18:38, DaveC <davec2468@yahoo.com> wrote:

> It turned out to be much simpler than I thought:
>
> Insert the DVD in the old mini. Quit any DVD player that wants to start.
>
> (Make sure you've got the user name & password for the old mini.)
>
> Open VLC on the new mini.
> Choose File > "Open Disc...".
> Choose the Disc tab, click on "VIDEO_TS Folder" button, click the
> "browse" button, and navigate to the old mini.
> Click "Connect as..." and enter user name & password for the old mini.
> Open the DVD disc and choose the "VIDEO_TS" folder.
> Click the Open button.
>
> It plays! As if it were in a local DVD drive.
>
> It's a little bandwidth sensitive, but not terribly. I can't download
> large files without VLC "hiccuping" or closing the window, but
> otherwise it's like I have a DVD drive in the new mini...
>
> Thanks for "listening"...
>

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4c.

Re: Streaming video with VLC?

Posted by: "DaveC" davec2468@yahoo.com   davec2468

Wed Apr 4, 2012 7:52 pm (PDT)



I'm using Ehternet, not wifi.

Dave

-=-=-=-

>That's good to know.
>
>Of course, DVD bit-rates are high by the standards of networks of just a
>few years ago. Is this via wifi
>
>Otto

5a.

Re: Replacing MobileMe Gallery

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Wed Apr 4, 2012 11:52 am (PDT)



Howdy.

I've been trying a new service called Zing Zang. Should work with
iPhoto. Current a beta service but should become commercial.

Denver Dan

On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 15:07:17 -0500, Jay Abraham wrote:
>
> What services are you using to replace MobileMe's gallery and how do
> you like them. I have used Google's Picassa but it isn't integrated
> with iPhoto so I'm not sure of using it as a replacement.
>
> I like the ability to password protect the images and video I share
> as well as the ability for others to add pictures which can then be
> added back to my iPhoto.
>
> Would love to hear thoughts from people who have used MobileMe and
> where they are going to.
>
> Jay

6.

Password Oops!

Posted by: "Jim" oldtechie@wi.rr.com   jimpurcell2001

Wed Apr 4, 2012 2:37 pm (PDT)



I started running with no password by just leaving new password blank. Now I'm told that I can't open my jpurcell folder

Jim

7a.

Re: old software

Posted by: "Louise Stewart" veggie236@earthlink.net   pudgybulldog

Wed Apr 4, 2012 8:37 pm (PDT)



Thanks. I'll check it out. I hate to toss out something that might
have value to someone.

On Apr 4, 2012, at 12:12 AM, OBrien wrote:

On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 23:47:35 -0400, Louise Stewart wrote:
> Thanks. I'll check it out soon. Soooo, should I just toss the other
> old stuff out? No one's gonna have a use for it, will they? Not
> unless they run an ancient Mac museum.

Some people collect antique Macs and software. You might put it on
eBay, or go here:

<http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml>
<http://lowendmac.com/lists/swap.html>

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

O'Brien ––– –... .-. .. . -.

What's the best gift to give your mom for Mother's Day?????? A pet
portrait!!! See samples at http://www.facebook.com/album.php?
aid=94904&id=754373252&l=2db0188037 Gift certificates are available.

Or, consider animal-themed (spay/neuter, vegetarian, anti-
dogfighting) T-shirts, mugs and other paraphernalia. Good for gifts
or for treating yourself!
http://www.cafepress.com/stirthepuddin

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7b.

Re: old software

Posted by: "Louise Stewart" veggie236@earthlink.net   pudgybulldog

Wed Apr 4, 2012 8:38 pm (PDT)



Thanks for the info. I'll look into that.

On Apr 4, 2012, at 12:09 AM, Randy B. Singer wrote:

On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:47 PM, Louise Stewart wrote:

> Thanks. I'll check it out soon. Soooo, should I just toss the other
> old stuff out? No one's gonna have a use for it, will they? Not
> unless they run an ancient Mac museum.

Lots of folks in impoverished communities, the third world, etc.,
could use your old computer and old software. Contact one of these
and see if they would like a donation of your old software (you
should be able to get a nice tax deduction in return):

Freecycle
http://www.freecycle.org

Computers for Kids
http://www.c4konline.org/
http://www.cfkidaho.org/
http://www.computers4kids.net/

Geeks Without Borders
http://www.geekswithoutborders.org/

Gifts In Kind
http://www.giftsinkind.org

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
___________________________________________

What's the best gift to give your mom for Mother's Day?????? A pet
portrait!!! See samples at http://www.facebook.com/album.php?
aid=94904&id=754373252&l=2db0188037 Gift certificates are available.

Or, consider animal-themed (spay/neuter, vegetarian, anti-
dogfighting) T-shirts, mugs and other paraphernalia. Good for gifts
or for treating yourself!
http://www.cafepress.com/stirthepuddin

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