4/12/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 8847

Messages In This Digest (18 Messages)

1a.
Re: Recovering using TM From: Keith Whaley
1b.
Re: Recovering using TM From: Jim Saklad
1c.
Re: Recovering using TM From: OldTechie
1d.
Re: Recovering using TM From: OldTechie
1e.
Re: Recovering using TM From: OldTechie
1f.
Re: Recovering using TM From: OldTechie
1g.
Re: Recovering using TM From: Jim Saklad
1h.
Re: Recovering using TM From: OldTechie
2a.
Re: Flashback Followup From: hester
3a.
Re: Quotations in "sig" lines From: Daly Jessup
4a.
Re: Apple - Support - Time Machine From: Daly Jessup
5a.
Re: iPhone Notes & iCloud From: paul smith
6a.
Re: Free Flashback Removal Tool From: Randy B. Singer
6b.
Re: Free Flashback Removal Tool From: OBrien
7a.
Scanners From: doubletroubleonthego
7b.
Scanners From: doubletroubleonthego
8.
Mac mail sending from wrong email account From: oscarpoppyuk
9a.
Re: Well, Lion is DLing to my Mac Pro From: Anna Larson

Messages

1a.

Re: Recovering using TM

Posted by: "Keith Whaley" keith_w@dslextreme.com   keith9600

Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:40 pm (PDT)



Jim Saklad wrote:
> >> The "surrounding" folder is "Macintosh HD" (or whatever you have
> >> named it).
> >> Run Time Machine with that *drive* displayed in a Finder window, and
> >> scroll backward in time until the Users folder appears there at the
> >> top level.

> > Jim,
> > OK, what I Can't figure is why this seems such a deep dark secret.
> > TNX for your reply
> > Jim

> Oh good -- an EASY question.

> > "... why this seems such a deep dark secret"

> It isn't.
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

Aha. Well, THAT's certainly encouraging news...

If it's not a secret, why is it obtuse? Some people thing so, anyhow.

keith

1b.

Re: Recovering using TM

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:26 pm (PDT)



>>>> The "surrounding" folder is "Macintosh HD" (or whatever you have named it).
>>>> Run Time Machine with that *drive* displayed in a Finder window, and scroll backward in time until the Users folder appears there at the top level.
>>>
>>> Jim,
>>> OK, what I Can't figure is why this seems such a deep dark secret.
>>> TNX for your reply
>>> Jim
>
>> Oh good -- an EASY question.
>
>>> "... why this seems such a deep dark secret"
>
>> It isn't.
>
> Aha. Well, THAT's certainly encouraging news...
> If it's not a secret, why is it obtuse? Some people thing so, anyhow.
> keith

Can someone explain to me what it is that seems obtuse, vague, or secret about the operation of Time Machine discussed in the first paragraph above?

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

1c.

Re: Recovering using TM

Posted by: "OldTechie" oldtechie@wi.rr.com   jimpurcell2001

Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:29 pm (PDT)



Jim,

OK, not dark, that was a bit hyperbolic.
But some deep, else why was it so hard for me to find? :-(

Jim

> > "... why this seems such a deep dark secret"
>
> It isn't.
>

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1d.

Re: Recovering using TM

Posted by: "OldTechie" oldtechie@wi.rr.com   jimpurcell2001

Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:32 pm (PDT)



Keith,

> Aha. Well, THAT's certainly encouraging news...
>
> If it's not a secret, why is it obtuse? Some people thing so, anyhow.
>

Obtuse, that's a better term. It's easy for them what knows to say that something is obvious. :-)

Jim

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1e.

Re: Recovering using TM

Posted by: "OldTechie" oldtechie@wi.rr.com   jimpurcell2001

Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:35 pm (PDT)



Jim,

It isn't the paragraph content that is vague, it is where it is. I looked and asked and finally the answer.

Jim
>
> Can someone explain to me what it is that seems obtuse, vague, or secret about the operation of Time Machine discussed in the first paragraph above?
>
>

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1f.

Re: Recovering using TM

Posted by: "OldTechie" oldtechie@wi.rr.com   jimpurcell2001

Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:39 pm (PDT)



Well, what matters is that the answer was finally found. It just struck me that most of what I read [at first] about time machine was bout doing the backup. I never had much trouble with that. It was using it to recover/restore my missing Users file.

Anyway, TNX for the help everybody!

Jim
1g.

Re: Recovering using TM

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:12 pm (PDT)



>>> "... why this seems such a deep dark secret"
>>
>> It isn't.
>
> OK, not dark, that was a bit hyperbolic.
> But some deep, else why was it so hard for me to find? :-(

<Curmudgeon mode ON>

The basic way you use TM for data recovery is to open a Finder window to the location that the file is missing from (or that you want an earlier version of), then run TM, and scroll back in time until you find the file or version you want.

I would expect that others who choose to use TM, as I did, find out how TM works to back up and to retrieve their data.

If a file is missing, you open a Finder window to the enclosing folder, so you can see the file when you go back in time.

If a folder is missing, you open a Finder window to the *enclosing* folder, so you can see the missing folder when you go back in time.

If the missing folder is one of the top-level folders, then the "enclosing folder" is the hard drive itself (or a partition). And in general you shouldn't have been screwing around with top-level folders if you want your system to continue to function.

This is basic Time Machine function.
It's not rocket science.
Let alone orbital mechanics....

<Curmudgeon mode OFF>

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

1h.

Re: Recovering using TM

Posted by: "OldTechie" oldtechie@wi.rr.com   jimpurcell2001

Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:22 pm (PDT)



Jim,

Do we need two curmudgeons on the same page?

Jim

> <Curmudgeon mode ON>
>

really

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2a.

Re: Flashback Followup

Posted by: "hester" dhreik@gmail.com   drhester_06107

Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:16 pm (PDT)





--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "ianjgillis" <tessel.bas@...> wrote:
>
> Randy,
> Further to your excellent, well-balanced and realistic viewpoint on "Flashback", you may be interested in this piece of journalistic sensation-mongering perpetrated in "The Daily Telegraph" - a leading UK newspaper that ought to know better than to jump on the "let's all Knock Macs" bandwagon.
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/9197694/Apple-under-fire-over-response-to-Flashback-virus.html
>
> regards,
> Ian

Excellent link, thanks.

3a.

Re: Quotations in "sig" lines

Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com   dalyjessup

Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:51 pm (PDT)



I wrote about random signatures in Mail.app:

>> Well now, that's really frustrating! I don't have the option!
>>
>> I have NO idea what to do about this one. I do have three signatures created, but I can't choose to randomize theme.

Bekah answered:

> Make sure you've got an account chosen in that signatures menu - my options of None, Random or Sequence don't show until I choose the account.
Somehow or other, that solved it. Thank you!

Daly
4a.

Re: Apple - Support - Time Machine

Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com   dalyjessup

Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:55 pm (PDT)




On Apr 11, 2012, at 6:58 AM, OldTechie wrote:
>
>
>> Here's the manual in PDF to download.
>>
>> http://www.apple.com/support/timemachine/
That's a good link for info, but I certainly can't find a PDF there. Where is it?

Daly

5a.

Re: iPhone Notes & iCloud

Posted by: "paul smith" kullervo@nycap.rr.com   waldonny

Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:57 pm (PDT)



I created a @me.com email account as part of creating my free iCloud account. Now, whenever I write a note in Notes on my iPhone, the contents of the note automatically get emailed to that account on my MacBook Pro.
--
PSmith
MacBook Pro, 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB DDR2 SDRAM, OS 10.7.3 iPhone 4S 64 GB, iOS 5.1

On Apr 11, 2012, at 10:08 AM, ennisart wrote:

I would like to transfer Notes from my iPhone4 to my iMac. On my iPhone, I have the option to turn on Notes. Does this mean notes I write on my phone can be transferred to my iMac?

I am required to create a @me.com email address to enable this. What is this? (I am not a Mobile Me user).

6a.

Re: Free Flashback Removal Tool

Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com   randybrucesinger

Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:00 pm (PDT)




On Apr 11, 2012, at 10:00 AM, OBrien wrote:

> I wonder if this is a concern on my old G5 running OSX 4.11.

From everything that I have heard, Flashback won't run on a PowerPC-
based Mac.

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
___________________________________________

6b.

Re: Free Flashback Removal Tool

Posted by: "OBrien" bco@hiwaay.net   conorboru

Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:54 pm (PDT)



On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 18:00:08 -0700, Randy B. Singer wrote:
> From everything that I have heard, Flashback won't run on a PowerPC-
> based Mac.

Thanks...thought that might be the case. I'll stop thinking about it. :-)


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O'Brien ––– –... .-. .. . -.
7a.

Scanners

Posted by: "doubletroubleonthego" doubletroubleonthego@hotmail.com   doubletroubleonthego

Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:32 pm (PDT)



Many thanks for the helpful info on flatbed scanners.
Regards,
Carole
Plymouth, MI

7b.

Scanners

Posted by: "doubletroubleonthego" doubletroubleonthego@hotmail.com   doubletroubleonthego

Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:33 pm (PDT)



Many thanks for the helpful info on flatbed scanners.
Regards,
Carole
Plymouth, MI

8.

Mac mail sending from wrong email account

Posted by: "oscarpoppyuk" 28lwood@gmail.com   oscarpoppyuk

Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:56 am (PDT)



I am hoping you good people can help me with this irritation.
I have 3 gmail accounts, 1 for everyday use, 1 for potential spam and 1 that I use solely for my World of Warcraft account (so it can't get picked up and hacked)

Recently I received the offer of an update from one of my Kindle books but I obviously had to reply from the right email account. I hit reply and typed "yes" as requested (from the same, correct email account) but I got a reply to my WoW email address saying they didn't have an account with that email address so couldn't help.
I looked at the details under All Headers and Raw Source and there was no mention of this address.
My accounts are all imap and are listed in the order above. I cannot see how to tell mail to reply using the address I received a mail on nor can I set a default sending account.
I have no idea where this WoW email address got caught up in the reply, but now when my husband emails me on account number 1 my replies go out from account number 3.

I hope this makes sense to you and I don't want to cut down these 3 addresses as that doesn't solve the mystery, but I know I am missing something obvious, I just can't find it. I would be okay with never sending from address number 3 (with the option to actually send from it if Blizzard need me to)

Lyn

9a.

Re: Well, Lion is DLing to my Mac Pro

Posted by: "Anna Larson" pix@maksimo.de   yovard@ymail.com

Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:24 am (PDT)




On March 31, 2012, at 03:36, oldtechie wrote:

>
> Here's where I am now, I have finally installed Lion. I have two accouints and the problem one is where I can't MT the trash. So I'm trying now to just delete the problem account, which is an ordinary account. From the 'good' acct. I unlock the account prefereences and try to select the bad so account so that I can delete it, but the unlooses a perpetual beach ball [rotating color wheel]. I don't know whether I am doing things in the wrong order or what. I want to delete the ordinary account, which has the problem trash bin.
>
> It just occurred to me that maybe I should add a third account, so that I won't end up with only one, and that being and admin account. Does that sound like it might work

>
> (� I'm also having a difficult time with the new Lion Mail, it's a disaster, itsy bitty text and unlabeled icons. And my mouse cursor obliterates the pop up labels.

Hello Jim/Old techie,

I have been following your ordeal with installing Lion and then later with Time Machine. Considering your post from March 31 it is obvious that something went terribly wrong with your installation from the very first moment. You say you "can't MT [= empty] the trash". This is an indication that something went wrong. But take note, if a file is being used by a certain application you normally won� be able to delete it. You must first quit the application, or you just wait until you have made a restart. You can also try pressing the option key and then simultaneously issue the Finder > Empty Trash command.

Back to your installation: You should also have only ONE account (= administrative account) and one so called "Guest Account". You can ignore the Guest Account. If the other account is "bad", as you call it, then STOP, don� try to delete it and create another account (because that involves knowledge of how the Mac works). Instead you should really INSTALL everything again. If you don� do it you are taking a high risk and don� be surprised if you loose your data later.

I remember you said you had deleted your Users folder. That sounds pretty weird because normally you cannot delete that folder! If you try to delete it you will receive this message (see screen shot here):

http://min.us/mbeeQ51cEG

The same applies to your Home folder, see screen shot here:

http://minus.com/m951aFoxI/

On 07.04.2012, at 17:08, you wrote:

> I'm practicing with terminal,I have a big book on terminal for the MAC
> I have come to the LPR filename cmd, but term doesn't know where ny Mac printer is.

For Christ� sake, don� play with the Terminal until you know the ins and outs of your Mac. The Terminal is not necessary unless you want to do something very special, like for example deleting your Users folder �:-)

Anna

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