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Sat Oct 20, 2012 2:18 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Don Seal" don.96705
Jim
I have come to the conclusion that "Mac Pro sleep" is an oxymoron. I have had troubles with two Mac Pro's. Its particularly important to me because I live in the highest electricity price place in the U.S. Assuming 4hrs/day use and 20hrs/day sleep @ 175 watts, not sleeping sucks up $536.55 of electricity per year.
2007 Mac Pro - purchased 4/14/2007, 2 weeks after quad core was announced.
2 quad core 3GHz processors
ATI Radeon graphics card.
This machine would not go to sleep. Several trips to the local Mac store - [85 miles of ocean to the Apple store]. Could not reproduce problem and closed case #s. Final case was opened with 36 hours remaining on Apple Care. Over 100 hours on the phone with Apple CSR. Finally she suggested replacing the machine.
Early 2009 Mac Pro - received 6/14/2010
2 quad core 2.93GHZ processors
ATI Radeon HD 4870 512 MB
I thought this was a new machine, got it just days before the 2010 refresh was announced. Found out its a refurbished machine when my Hawaii address did not match the Apple Care customer address in Austin Texas.
This machine sleeps fine. Just will not wakeup. My APC UPS has a power meter, its showing about 215 watts now [just mail running]. Display off power is 175 watts, sleep power is in the 0-3 watt range. The UPS is not designed to track fast changing power. Pressing the spacebar causes a power spike to 20-50 watts which drops to 7 watts in less than a second. No video, no fans, no reaction to keyboard or mouse. Only way out of this is to force a shutdown with the power button.
Still working this issue with Apple. Will let the group know of any progress.
Don at 21.9N 159.6W
2 x 2.93 GHz Early 2009 Mac Pro
OS X 10.7.5
6GB RAM
On Oct 20, 2012, at 03:48, James Robertson wrote:
> The other day, I was exploring a bit in
>
> OS X 10.8.2> System Preferences>Desktop & Screen Saver,
>
> in the Screen Saver panel.
>
> I don't recall ever using the "Shifting Tiles" panel before. I set it to start after 10 minutes of inactivity. That all works, but when I return to my Mac and wake up the blanked screen by clicking my mouse or pressing a key on the keyboard, all I see is the slideshow (the log in dialog doesn't appear). If I move the mouse, what happens is bizarre: a square area encompassing the area required to paint all the pixels of my cursor appears and moves with the mouse, and almost like the original MacPaint erasor, it eliminates pixels of the screen to gradually make Apple's default gray linen screen background and the icons for my account login choices appear.
>
> I've rebooted my Mac Pro a few times, and that doesn't eliminate this weird behavior. I have two monitors set up as an extended desktop, and the "pixel erasing" occurs on both of them. I also have a rMacBook Pro, and the odd behavior does NOT appear there.
>
> Anyone seen this before? Is it likely a problem with my graphics card? (Early 2008 Mac Pro Dual Quad Core with ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT 256 MB graphics processor).
>
> Any excorcism worth trying?
>
> Thanks so much,
>
>
> --
> Jim Robertson
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I have come to the conclusion that "Mac Pro sleep" is an oxymoron. I have had troubles with two Mac Pro's. Its particularly important to me because I live in the highest electricity price place in the U.S. Assuming 4hrs/day use and 20hrs/day sleep @ 175 watts, not sleeping sucks up $536.55 of electricity per year.
2007 Mac Pro - purchased 4/14/2007, 2 weeks after quad core was announced.
2 quad core 3GHz processors
ATI Radeon graphics card.
This machine would not go to sleep. Several trips to the local Mac store - [85 miles of ocean to the Apple store]. Could not reproduce problem and closed case #s. Final case was opened with 36 hours remaining on Apple Care. Over 100 hours on the phone with Apple CSR. Finally she suggested replacing the machine.
Early 2009 Mac Pro - received 6/14/2010
2 quad core 2.93GHZ processors
ATI Radeon HD 4870 512 MB
I thought this was a new machine, got it just days before the 2010 refresh was announced. Found out its a refurbished machine when my Hawaii address did not match the Apple Care customer address in Austin Texas.
This machine sleeps fine. Just will not wakeup. My APC UPS has a power meter, its showing about 215 watts now [just mail running]. Display off power is 175 watts, sleep power is in the 0-3 watt range. The UPS is not designed to track fast changing power. Pressing the spacebar causes a power spike to 20-50 watts which drops to 7 watts in less than a second. No video, no fans, no reaction to keyboard or mouse. Only way out of this is to force a shutdown with the power button.
Still working this issue with Apple. Will let the group know of any progress.
Don at 21.9N 159.6W
2 x 2.93 GHz Early 2009 Mac Pro
OS X 10.7.5
6GB RAM
On Oct 20, 2012, at 03:48, James Robertson wrote:
> The other day, I was exploring a bit in
>
> OS X 10.8.2> System Preferences>
>
> in the Screen Saver panel.
>
> I don't recall ever using the "Shifting Tiles" panel before. I set it to start after 10 minutes of inactivity. That all works, but when I return to my Mac and wake up the blanked screen by clicking my mouse or pressing a key on the keyboard, all I see is the slideshow (the log in dialog doesn't appear). If I move the mouse, what happens is bizarre: a square area encompassing the area required to paint all the pixels of my cursor appears and moves with the mouse, and almost like the original MacPaint erasor, it eliminates pixels of the screen to gradually make Apple's default gray linen screen background and the icons for my account login choices appear.
>
> I've rebooted my Mac Pro a few times, and that doesn't eliminate this weird behavior. I have two monitors set up as an extended desktop, and the "pixel erasing" occurs on both of them. I also have a rMacBook Pro, and the odd behavior does NOT appear there.
>
> Anyone seen this before? Is it likely a problem with my graphics card? (Early 2008 Mac Pro Dual Quad Core with ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT 256 MB graphics processor).
>
> Any excorcism worth trying?
>
> Thanks so much,
>
>
> --
> Jim Robertson
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 2:37 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Barry Austern" barryaus
At 11:18 AM -1000 10/20/12, Don Seal wrote:
>
>I have come to the conclusion that "Mac Pro sleep" is an oxymoron. I
>have had troubles with two Mac Pro's. Its particularly important to
>me because I live in the highest electricity price place in the U.S.
>Assuming 4hrs/day use and 20hrs/day sleep @ 175 watts, not sleeping
>sucks up $536.55 of electricity per year.
Shutting down when not in use would use even less electricity.
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net
>
>I have come to the conclusion that "Mac Pro sleep" is an oxymoron. I
>have had troubles with two Mac Pro's. Its particularly important to
>me because I live in the highest electricity price place in the U.S.
>Assuming 4hrs/day use and 20hrs/day sleep @ 175 watts, not sleeping
>sucks up $536.55 of electricity per year.
Shutting down when not in use would use even less electricity.
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.
Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:44 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Eric" emanmb
When I got my first Mac in 98 (OS 7.6), my Mac advisor/buddy told me not to use a screen saver for some reason. I've not used one since although I've tried them from time to time. Basically if I'm going to have my screen "On" then I want my desktop visible. My wife likes them and hasn't had any issues with them w/her eMAc and now her MBP.
Now that I live in Bangkok where there's a power failure at least once a week on average, I rarely put my machine to sleep. If I'm leaving home, going to bed, etc. I'll just shut down and unplug the surge protector from the outlet. PITA I know, but I worry about something electrical happening while I'm gone that even my Belkin unit cannot protect me from. When $ allows I'll be adding an UPS to that chain.
Re: Sleep.
I do put my machine to sleep on rare occasions and my 2008 MacPro hasn't had a waking issue yet. The only time there was an issue was when I came home to the rapidly blinking LED over the power button because some RAM had gone bad which I posted about earlier this week. Whether that RAM failure is due to some electrical issue or just bad RAM is impossible to know, so I play it safe now and mostly just shut down and unplug the surge protector.
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Don Seal <y-photo.96705@...> wrote:
>
> Jim
>
> I have come to the conclusion that "Mac Pro sleep" is an oxymoron. I have had troubles with two Mac Pro's. Its particularly important to me because I live in the highest electricity price place in the U.S. Assuming 4hrs/day use and 20hrs/day sleep @ 175 watts, not sleeping sucks up $536.55 of electricity per year.
>
> 2007 Mac Pro - purchased 4/14/2007, 2 weeks after quad core was announced.
> 2 quad core 3GHz processors
> ATI Radeon graphics card.
>
> This machine would not go to sleep. Several trips to the local Mac store - [85 miles of ocean to the Apple store]. Could not reproduce problem and closed case #s. Final case was opened with 36 hours remaining on Apple Care. Over 100 hours on the phone with Apple CSR. Finally she suggested replacing the machine.
>
> Early 2009 Mac Pro - received 6/14/2010
> 2 quad core 2.93GHZ processors
> ATI Radeon HD 4870 512 MB
>
> I thought this was a new machine, got it just days before the 2010 refresh was announced. Found out its a refurbished machine when my Hawaii address did not match the Apple Care customer address in Austin Texas.
>
> This machine sleeps fine. Just will not wakeup. My APC UPS has a power meter, its showing about 215 watts now [just mail running]. Display off power is 175 watts, sleep power is in the 0-3 watt range. The UPS is not designed to track fast changing power. Pressing the spacebar causes a power spike to 20-50 watts which drops to 7 watts in less than a second. No video, no fans, no reaction to keyboard or mouse. Only way out of this is to force a shutdown with the power button.
>
> Still working this issue with Apple. Will let the group know of any progress.
>
> Don at 21.9N 159.6W
> 2 x 2.93 GHz Early 2009 Mac Pro
> OS X 10.7.5
> 6GB RAM
>
Now that I live in Bangkok where there's a power failure at least once a week on average, I rarely put my machine to sleep. If I'm leaving home, going to bed, etc. I'll just shut down and unplug the surge protector from the outlet. PITA I know, but I worry about something electrical happening while I'm gone that even my Belkin unit cannot protect me from. When $ allows I'll be adding an UPS to that chain.
Re: Sleep.
I do put my machine to sleep on rare occasions and my 2008 MacPro hasn't had a waking issue yet. The only time there was an issue was when I came home to the rapidly blinking LED over the power button because some RAM had gone bad which I posted about earlier this week. Whether that RAM failure is due to some electrical issue or just bad RAM is impossible to know, so I play it safe now and mostly just shut down and unplug the surge protector.
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> Jim
>
> I have come to the conclusion that "Mac Pro sleep" is an oxymoron. I have had troubles with two Mac Pro's. Its particularly important to me because I live in the highest electricity price place in the U.S. Assuming 4hrs/day use and 20hrs/day sleep @ 175 watts, not sleeping sucks up $536.55 of electricity per year.
>
> 2007 Mac Pro - purchased 4/14/2007, 2 weeks after quad core was announced.
> 2 quad core 3GHz processors
> ATI Radeon graphics card.
>
> This machine would not go to sleep. Several trips to the local Mac store - [85 miles of ocean to the Apple store]. Could not reproduce problem and closed case #s. Final case was opened with 36 hours remaining on Apple Care. Over 100 hours on the phone with Apple CSR. Finally she suggested replacing the machine.
>
> Early 2009 Mac Pro - received 6/14/2010
> 2 quad core 2.93GHZ processors
> ATI Radeon HD 4870 512 MB
>
> I thought this was a new machine, got it just days before the 2010 refresh was announced. Found out its a refurbished machine when my Hawaii address did not match the Apple Care customer address in Austin Texas.
>
> This machine sleeps fine. Just will not wakeup. My APC UPS has a power meter, its showing about 215 watts now [just mail running]. Display off power is 175 watts, sleep power is in the 0-3 watt range. The UPS is not designed to track fast changing power. Pressing the spacebar causes a power spike to 20-50 watts which drops to 7 watts in less than a second. No video, no fans, no reaction to keyboard or mouse. Only way out of this is to force a shutdown with the power button.
>
> Still working this issue with Apple. Will let the group know of any progress.
>
> Don at 21.9N 159.6W
> 2 x 2.93 GHz Early 2009 Mac Pro
> OS X 10.7.5
> 6GB RAM
>
Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:04 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Smith" jimmacsmith
On Oct 16, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Earle Jones wrote:
>
>
> He went on to recommend that I buy new memory from Crucial.com
>
> http://www.crucial.
>
> This is the retail arm of Micron Technology, where Apple gets a lot of their memory.
>
> Crucial memory costs a couple of pennies more, but I have never had a problem since.
>
> earle
> *
> ____________
> Earle Jones
In my mid 2011 iMac there are 2 slots with 4GB and 2 slots empty.
Can I add 2 8GB and leave the 2 4GB in place, making 25GB?
Jim Smith
www.rvcarelogbook.
iMac 27 (2011), 3.4GHz Core i7. 8GB,OS X 10.7.4
iMac 21.5 (Late 2009), Memory 8GB,OS X 10.6.7
Mac Mini (Early 2009), Memory 4GB,OS X 10.6.7(wife)
iPod Touch (3rd Gen), 64GB; iPad WF+G3, 64GB
iPhone4 32GB Verizon
HP EX495 WHS; HP tx2 TouchSmart
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:25 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Michael P. Stupinski" mstupinski
Nope, that won't work. You'll only get 24 GB, not 25 GB.
:-)
...............Mike
(Seriously, that would work OK. I thought about doing that myself, but decided that just adding two 4GB modules would be enough. Now I'm thinking I should have gone ahead with adding the two 8GB modules instead.)
On Oct 20, 2012, at 10:03 PM, Jim Smith <jas1931@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> On Oct 16, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Earle Jones wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> He went on to recommend that I buy new memory from Crucial.com
>>
>> http://www.crucial.com
>>
>> This is the retail arm of Micron Technology, where Apple gets a lot of their memory.
>>
>> Crucial memory costs a couple of pennies more, but I have never had a problem since.
>>
>> earle
>> *
>> _______________________
>> Earle Jones
>
> In my mid 2011 iMac there are 2 slots with 4GB and 2 slots empty.
>
> Can I add 2 8GB and leave the 2 4GB in place, making 25GB?
>
> Jim Smith
> www.rvcarelogbook.com
> iMac 27 (2011), 3.4GHz Core i7. 8GB,OS X 10.7.4
> iMac 21.5 (Late 2009), Memory 8GB,OS X 10.6.7
> Mac Mini (Early 2009), Memory 4GB,OS X 10.6.7(wife)
> iPod Touch (3rd Gen), 64GB; iPad WF+G3, 64GB
> iPhone4 32GB Verizon
> HP EX495 WHS; HP tx2 TouchSmart
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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:-)
............
(Seriously, that would work OK. I thought about doing that myself, but decided that just adding two 4GB modules would be enough. Now I'm thinking I should have gone ahead with adding the two 8GB modules instead.)
On Oct 20, 2012, at 10:03 PM, Jim Smith <jas1931@gmail.
>
> On Oct 16, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Earle Jones wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> He went on to recommend that I buy new memory from Crucial.com
>>
>> http://www.crucial.
>>
>> This is the retail arm of Micron Technology, where Apple gets a lot of their memory.
>>
>> Crucial memory costs a couple of pennies more, but I have never had a problem since.
>>
>> earle
>> *
>> ____________
>> Earle Jones
>
> In my mid 2011 iMac there are 2 slots with 4GB and 2 slots empty.
>
> Can I add 2 8GB and leave the 2 4GB in place, making 25GB?
>
> Jim Smith
> www.rvcarelogbook.
> iMac 27 (2011), 3.4GHz Core i7. 8GB,OS X 10.7.4
> iMac 21.5 (Late 2009), Memory 8GB,OS X 10.6.7
> Mac Mini (Early 2009), Memory 4GB,OS X 10.6.7(wife)
> iPod Touch (3rd Gen), 64GB; iPad WF+G3, 64GB
> iPhone4 32GB Verizon
> HP EX495 WHS; HP tx2 TouchSmart
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsuppo
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
>
Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:30 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Michael P. Stupinski" mstupinski
Whoops, I spoke too soon! The manual gives the limit as only 16GB total memory, so you (and I) can only add two 4GB modules in the empty slots.
Sorry,
.............Mike
On Oct 20, 2012, at 10:03 PM, Jim Smith <jas1931@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> On Oct 16, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Earle Jones wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> He went on to recommend that I buy new memory from Crucial.com
>>
>> http://www.crucial.com
>>
>> This is the retail arm of Micron Technology, where Apple gets a lot of their memory.
>>
>> Crucial memory costs a couple of pennies more, but I have never had a problem since.
>>
>> earle
>> *
>> _______________________
>> Earle Jones
>
> In my mid 2011 iMac there are 2 slots with 4GB and 2 slots empty.
>
> Can I add 2 8GB and leave the 2 4GB in place, making 25GB?
>
> Jim Smith
> www.rvcarelogbook.com
> iMac 27 (2011), 3.4GHz Core i7. 8GB,OS X 10.7.4
> iMac 21.5 (Late 2009), Memory 8GB,OS X 10.6.7
> Mac Mini (Early 2009), Memory 4GB,OS X 10.6.7(wife)
> iPod Touch (3rd Gen), 64GB; iPad WF+G3, 64GB
> iPhone4 32GB Verizon
> HP EX495 WHS; HP tx2 TouchSmart
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsupportcentral.com/policies/ >
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
Sorry,
............
On Oct 20, 2012, at 10:03 PM, Jim Smith <jas1931@gmail.
>
> On Oct 16, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Earle Jones wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> He went on to recommend that I buy new memory from Crucial.com
>>
>> http://www.crucial.
>>
>> This is the retail arm of Micron Technology, where Apple gets a lot of their memory.
>>
>> Crucial memory costs a couple of pennies more, but I have never had a problem since.
>>
>> earle
>> *
>> ____________
>> Earle Jones
>
> In my mid 2011 iMac there are 2 slots with 4GB and 2 slots empty.
>
> Can I add 2 8GB and leave the 2 4GB in place, making 25GB?
>
> Jim Smith
> www.rvcarelogbook.
> iMac 27 (2011), 3.4GHz Core i7. 8GB,OS X 10.7.4
> iMac 21.5 (Late 2009), Memory 8GB,OS X 10.6.7
> Mac Mini (Early 2009), Memory 4GB,OS X 10.6.7(wife)
> iPod Touch (3rd Gen), 64GB; iPad WF+G3, 64GB
> iPhone4 32GB Verizon
> HP EX495 WHS; HP tx2 TouchSmart
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsuppo
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:36 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Smith" jimmacsmith
S..t!
I'm going to have to start reading what I typed before hitting the 'send' button!!
If I can remember where the backspace key is.
Thanks Mike.
Jim Smith
www.rvcarelogbook.com
iMac 27 (2011), 3.4GHz Core i7. 8GB,OS X 10.7.4
iMac 21.5 (Late 2009), Memory 8GB,OS X 10.6.7
Mac Mini (Early 2009), Memory 4GB,OS X 10.6.7(wife)
iPod Touch (3rd Gen), 64GB; iPad WF+G3, 64GB
iPhone4 32GB Verizon
HP EX495 WHS; HP tx2 TouchSmart
On Oct 20, 2012, at 10:25 PM, Michael P. Stupinski wrote:
> Nope, that won't work. You'll only get 24 GB, not 25 GB.
>
> :-)
>
> ...............Mike
>
> (Seriously, that would work OK. I thought about doing that myself, but decided that just adding two 4GB modules would be enough. Now I'm thinking I should have gone ahead with adding the two 8GB modules instead.)
>
>
> On Oct 20, 2012, at 10:03 PM, Jim Smith <jas1931@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>>
>> On Oct 16, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Earle Jones wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> He went on to recommend that I buy new memory from Crucial.com
>>>
>>> http://www.crucial.com
>>>
>>> This is the retail arm of Micron Technology, where Apple gets a lot of their memory.
>>>
>>> Crucial memory costs a couple of pennies more, but I have never had a problem since.
>>>
>>> earle
>>> *
>>> _______________________
>>> Earle Jones
>>
>> In my mid 2011 iMac there are 2 slots with 4GB and 2 slots empty.
>>
>> Can I add 2 8GB and leave the 2 4GB in place, making 25GB?
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I'm going to have to start reading what I typed before hitting the 'send' button!!
If I can remember where the backspace key is.
Thanks Mike.
Jim Smith
www.rvcarelogbook.
iMac 27 (2011), 3.4GHz Core i7. 8GB,OS X 10.7.4
iMac 21.5 (Late 2009), Memory 8GB,OS X 10.6.7
Mac Mini (Early 2009), Memory 4GB,OS X 10.6.7(wife)
iPod Touch (3rd Gen), 64GB; iPad WF+G3, 64GB
iPhone4 32GB Verizon
HP EX495 WHS; HP tx2 TouchSmart
On Oct 20, 2012, at 10:25 PM, Michael P. Stupinski wrote:
> Nope, that won't work. You'll only get 24 GB, not 25 GB.
>
> :-)
>
> ............
>
> (Seriously, that would work OK. I thought about doing that myself, but decided that just adding two 4GB modules would be enough. Now I'm thinking I should have gone ahead with adding the two 8GB modules instead.)
>
>
> On Oct 20, 2012, at 10:03 PM, Jim Smith <jas1931@gmail.
>
>>
>> On Oct 16, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Earle Jones wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> He went on to recommend that I buy new memory from Crucial.com
>>>
>>> http://www.crucial.
>>>
>>> This is the retail arm of Micron Technology, where Apple gets a lot of their memory.
>>>
>>> Crucial memory costs a couple of pennies more, but I have never had a problem since.
>>>
>>> earle
>>> *
>>> ____________
>>> Earle Jones
>>
>> In my mid 2011 iMac there are 2 slots with 4GB and 2 slots empty.
>>
>> Can I add 2 8GB and leave the 2 4GB in place, making 25GB?
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:48 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Bonnie" bonniec13078
I have a question. I just got the iphone4s, it's my second iphone. I updated the newest version of the software update for iPhone through my phone, and it says it can not connect it thought itunes anymore because the phone is more upgraded than my mac. I've now been told I have to upgrade from leopard to snow leopard, after installing that, I then need to upgrade to lion. Also that I can down load both from amazon, and there both easy to install. Is it really that easy? Any suggestions would really be appreciated. It's the first time I will be doing something like this.
Thanks in advance, Bonnie New York
Thanks in advance, Bonnie New York
Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:28 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"HAL9000" jrswebhome
I suggest that you take you Mac into a service store or Apple Store to do your upgrading. It can get complicated if you are not used to upgrading. Some of your computer software will not work with Lion. You need to think about that before going past Snow Leopard. The latest iOS for the iphone works fine with Snow Leopard. But it's just my opinion.
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Bonnie <bcsmith3@...> wrote:
>
> I have a question. I just got the iphone4s, it's my second iphone. I updated the newest version of the software update for iPhone through my phone, and it says it can not connect it thought itunes anymore because the phone is more upgraded than my mac. I've now been told I have to upgrade from leopard to snow leopard, after installing that, I then need to upgrade to lion. Also that I can down load both from amazon, and there both easy to install. Is it really that easy? Any suggestions would really be appreciated. It's the first time I will be doing something like this.
>
> Thanks in advance, Bonnie New York
>
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> I have a question. I just got the iphone4s, it's my second iphone. I updated the newest version of the software update for iPhone through my phone, and it says it can not connect it thought itunes anymore because the phone is more upgraded than my mac. I've now been told I have to upgrade from leopard to snow leopard, after installing that, I then need to upgrade to lion. Also that I can down load both from amazon, and there both easy to install. Is it really that easy? Any suggestions would really be appreciated. It's the first time I will be doing something like this.
>
> Thanks in advance, Bonnie New York
>
Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:37 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Pat Osborne" pako98_2000
Jim Smith wrote:
>> > http://www.crucial.com
>> >
>> > This is the retail arm of Micron Technology, where Apple gets a lot of their memory.
>> > _______________________
>> > Earle Jones
>
> In my mid 2011 iMac there are 2 slots with 4GB and 2 slots empty.
>
> Can I add 2 8GB and leave the 2 4GB in place, making 25GB?
One of the reasons I've used Crucial for decades is their helpfulness in
selecting the CORRECT RAM for any particular system. Go to Crucial to
see what SPECIFICALLY your system can use. Takes the guess work out of
RAM purchases!!
--
HTH,
Pat
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> > http://www.crucial.
>> >
>> > This is the retail arm of Micron Technology, where Apple gets a lot of their memory.
>> > ____________
>> > Earle Jones
>
> In my mid 2011 iMac there are 2 slots with 4GB and 2 slots empty.
>
> Can I add 2 8GB and leave the 2 4GB in place, making 25GB?
One of the reasons I've used Crucial for decades is their helpfulness in
selecting the CORRECT RAM for any particular system. Go to Crucial to
see what SPECIFICALLY your system can use. Takes the guess work out of
RAM purchases!!
--
HTH,
Pat
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:53 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
On 21 October 2012 12:37, Pat Osborne <pako-3908@fusemail.com > wrote:
>
> One of the reasons I've used Crucial for decades is their helpfulness in
> selecting the CORRECT RAM for any particular system. Go to Crucial to
> see what SPECIFICALLY your system can use. Takes the guess work out of
> RAM purchases!!
>
Yes, and I assume OWC have a similar system. (OWC is not an economic option
in the UK so I use Crucial).
Another thing that I don't think has been mentioned so far: try not to buy
RAM when it's a new type that's just come into use. Wait until it has
become common and you will pay a fraction of the price. Don't wait too
long, though: the price goes up again once it becomes legacy hardware.
Otto
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>
> One of the reasons I've used Crucial for decades is their helpfulness in
> selecting the CORRECT RAM for any particular system. Go to Crucial to
> see what SPECIFICALLY your system can use. Takes the guess work out of
> RAM purchases!!
>
Yes, and I assume OWC have a similar system. (OWC is not an economic option
in the UK so I use Crucial).
Another thing that I don't think has been mentioned so far: try not to buy
RAM when it's a new type that's just come into use. Wait until it has
become common and you will pay a fraction of the price. Don't wait too
long, though: the price goes up again once it becomes legacy hardware.
Otto
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Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:10 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Pat Osborne" pako98_2000
Otto Nikolaus <mailto:otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com >
October 21, 2012 6:53 AM
> Yes, and I assume OWC have a similar system.
No idea. Back in the day I was a PC user so had no use for OWC.
Crucial did it for me then and now as well!
I've found Crucial's pricing to be as reasonable as anyone else's with a
product I don't want to go "cheap" on. ;^)
--
Pat
>
>
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October 21, 2012 6:53 AM
> Yes, and I assume OWC have a similar system.
No idea. Back in the day I was a PC user so had no use for OWC.
Crucial did it for me then and now as well!
I've found Crucial's pricing to be as reasonable as anyone else's with a
product I don't want to go "cheap" on. ;^)
--
Pat
>
>
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:42 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Dave C" davec2468
I have 2 Airport Extremes (model A1301, "802.11n"), both with identical firmware (7.6.1, the current version).
One is connected to the broadband modem (via Ethernet) and provides the wireless network for a section of an office building.
I want to connect some remote devices to the network via Ethernet. This means I want to extend the wireless network using a 2nd Airport Extreme and connect these devices to this 2nd Airport via Ethernet cables.
Following instructions, I enabled the 1st Airport: "Allow this network to be extended" (paraphrasing, here). Then I rebooted this Airport.
I then configured the 2nd Airport's Wireless setting thus; "Extend a wireless network". In this pane I chose the name of the wireless network created by the 1st Airport. I got this pop-up message: "This network cannot be extended."
I tried this, and that, but there seems to be no way I can see to get past this error message.
Ideas?
Thanks,
Dave
One is connected to the broadband modem (via Ethernet) and provides the wireless network for a section of an office building.
I want to connect some remote devices to the network via Ethernet. This means I want to extend the wireless network using a 2nd Airport Extreme and connect these devices to this 2nd Airport via Ethernet cables.
Following instructions, I enabled the 1st Airport: "Allow this network to be extended" (paraphrasing, here). Then I rebooted this Airport.
I then configured the 2nd Airport's Wireless setting thus; "Extend a wireless network". In this pane I chose the name of the wireless network created by the 1st Airport. I got this pop-up message: "This network cannot be extended."
I tried this, and that, but there seems to be no way I can see to get past this error message.
Ideas?
Thanks,
Dave
Sun Oct 21, 2012 2:48 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"titnaw" titnaw
Sory Dave, I am clueless here. My question is would I need airport express. I have a Linksky modem. Is an airport express the same thing?
Titnaw
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Dave C <davec2468@...> wrote:
>
> I have 2 Airport Extremes (model A1301, "802.11n"), both with identical firmware (7.6.1, the current version).
>
> One is connected to the broadband modem (via Ethernet) and provides the wireless network for a section of an office building.
>
> I want to connect some remote devices to the network via Ethernet. This means I want to extend the wireless network using a 2nd Airport Extreme and connect these devices to this 2nd Airport via Ethernet cables.
>
> Following instructions, I enabled the 1st Airport: "Allow this network to be extended" (paraphrasing, here). Then I rebooted this Airport.
>
> I then configured the 2nd Airport's Wireless setting thus; "Extend a wireless network". In this pane I chose the name of the wireless network created by the 1st Airport. I got this pop-up message: "This network cannot be extended."
>
> I tried this, and that, but there seems to be no way I can see to get past this error message.
>
> Ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
Titnaw
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> I have 2 Airport Extremes (model A1301, "802.11n"), both with identical firmware (7.6.1, the current version).
>
> One is connected to the broadband modem (via Ethernet) and provides the wireless network for a section of an office building.
>
> I want to connect some remote devices to the network via Ethernet. This means I want to extend the wireless network using a 2nd Airport Extreme and connect these devices to this 2nd Airport via Ethernet cables.
>
> Following instructions, I enabled the 1st Airport: "Allow this network to be extended" (paraphrasing, here). Then I rebooted this Airport.
>
> I then configured the 2nd Airport's Wireless setting thus; "Extend a wireless network". In this pane I chose the name of the wireless network created by the 1st Airport. I got this pop-up message: "This network cannot be extended."
>
> I tried this, and that, but there seems to be no way I can see to get past this error message.
>
> Ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:31 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
We've mentioned OWC (macsales.com) as a source, particularly of RAM.
As a regular, if infrequent, customer, I am on their mailing list, and recently saw what appeared to be an incredible bargain.
They already sell multiple models of SSD's -- flash RAM hard drives -- both in standard 2.5 hard drive configuration, and in versions designed to be compatible with the storage in MBAirs. They have "3G" (i.e., SATA-2) and "6G" (SATA-3) versions, in a variety of sizes.
I had been contemplating upgrading my almost-4-year-old MBPro with a 3G SSD (480 GB for $492) to fill in the time until I can afford to replace the computer with a Retina Display 2012 MBPro.
Until a recent mailing informed me that they now have for sale Toshiba 512 GB SSD's -- the same make and model that Apple has been selling in various build-to-order Macs -- at $237 for 512 GB.
I have now been running on the upgraded MBPro for 2-3 days, and am 100% pleased and satisfied with the upgrade. I also bought one of their bus-powered portable cases to put the drive that I removed from the machine into, and a Torx, tiny Phillips, spudger, etc. tool kit, and am also pleased with those.
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
As a regular, if infrequent, customer, I am on their mailing list, and recently saw what appeared to be an incredible bargain.
They already sell multiple models of SSD's -- flash RAM hard drives -- both in standard 2.5 hard drive configuration, and in versions designed to be compatible with the storage in MBAirs. They have "3G" (i.e., SATA-2) and "6G" (SATA-3) versions, in a variety of sizes.
I had been contemplating upgrading my almost-4-year-
Until a recent mailing informed me that they now have for sale Toshiba 512 GB SSD's -- the same make and model that Apple has been selling in various build-to-order Macs -- at $237 for 512 GB.
I have now been running on the upgraded MBPro for 2-3 days, and am 100% pleased and satisfied with the upgrade. I also bought one of their bus-powered portable cases to put the drive that I removed from the machine into, and a Torx, tiny Phillips, spudger, etc. tool kit, and am also pleased with those.
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
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