10/30/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 9203

12 New Messages

Digest #9203
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Re: How do I set default "From" address in Mail? by "Island Center for the Arts" monkeymannmcghee
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Re: Buying Apple OS Lion or Mtn. Lion by "Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
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Re: Buying Apple OS Lion or Mtn. Lion by "Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger
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Re: Buying Apple OS Lion or Mtn. Lion by "Denver Dan" denverdan22180
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Re: advice for PC user by "Oneal Neumann" newalander
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Re: advice for PC user by "Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
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Re: iPad for a Windows user? by "T Hopkins" todhop

Messages

Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:54 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Dave C" davec2468

Thanks Tom.

Currently it is set to "Account of selected mailbox".

I like that when I *am* reading a particular mailbox, and when I create a new message it automatically selects the associated From address.

But I frequently view the high-level Inbox (containing all others), and I would like messages created from this to be a particular From address. The From address for this Inbox seems random. Can this one be specified?

Thanks again,
Dave

Mail 4.6
2011 Mini 2.7 GHz dual i7 / 16 GB / 250 GB / 750 GB
OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard

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On 29 October 2012, at 12:06 AM, Island Center for the Arts wrote:

> Go to Mail Preferences>Composing. Mid way down (in Mail 4.6) under "Addressing" there is a "send new messages from: " you can select there the account you wish to use.
> Tom

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> On Oct 29, 2012, at 7:44 AM, Dave C wrote:
>
>> When I select the top-level "Inbox" folder (which contains all the sub Inboxes for each account), when creating a new message, a particular From address is the default.
>>
>> How do I change this default?

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Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:09 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Dave C" davec2468

More info:
When I choose the top-level Inbox and press Cmd-i, the Account Info window opens and shows me information for the account associated with the first account-specific Inbox (inside the top-level Inbox). This is OK, no complaints about this.

But doesn't this mean that new messages should have a default From address of this account?

A bug?

Thanks,
Dave

-=-=-=-

Thanks Tom.

Currently it is set to "Account of selected mailbox".

I like that when I *am* reading a particular mailbox, and when I create a new message it automatically selects the associated From address.

But I frequently view the high-level Inbox (containing all others), and I would like messages created from this to be a particular From address. The From address for this Inbox seems random. Can this one be specified?

Thanks again,
Dave

Mail 4.6
2011 Mini 2.7 GHz dual i7 / 16 GB / 250 GB / 750 GB
OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard

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On 29 October 2012, at 12:06 AM, Island Center for the Arts wrote:

> Go to Mail Preferences>Composing. Mid way down (in Mail 4.6) under "Addressing" there is a "send new messages from: " you can select there the account you wish to use.
> Tom

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> On Oct 29, 2012, at 7:44 AM, Dave C wrote:
>
>> When I select the top-level "Inbox" folder (which contains all the sub Inboxes for each account), when creating a new message, a particular From address is the default.
>>
>> How do I change this default?

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Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:50 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Island Center for the Arts" monkeymannmcghee

You asked how to change the default. It is possible that the answer is "you can't" other than to select the mailbox in the Preferences>Composing pane. From there, if you select an account from which the email will be sent which becomes the default. All emails will have that "From" information until you change it in Preferences.

Maybe somebody else has a better answer.

On Oct 29, 2012, at 6:09 PM, Dave C wrote:

> More info:
> When I choose the top-level Inbox and press Cmd-i, the Account Info window opens and shows me information for the account associated with the first account-specific Inbox (inside the top-level Inbox). This is OK, no complaints about this.
>
> But doesn't this mean that new messages should have a default From address of this account?
>
> A bug?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
> -=-=-=-
>
> Thanks Tom.
>
> Currently it is set to "Account of selected mailbox".
>
> I like that when I *am* reading a particular mailbox, and when I create a new message it automatically selects the associated From address.
>
> But I frequently view the high-level Inbox (containing all others), and I would like messages created from this to be a particular From address. The From address for this Inbox seems random. Can this one be specified?
>
> Thanks again,
> Dave
>
> Mail 4.6
> 2011 Mini 2.7 GHz dual i7 / 16 GB / 250 GB / 750 GB
> OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
>
> -=-=-=-
>
> On 29 October 2012, at 12:06 AM, Island Center for the Arts wrote:
>
>> Go to Mail Preferences>Composing. Mid way down (in Mail 4.6) under "Addressing" there is a "send new messages from: " you can select there the account you wish to use.
>> Tom
>
> -=-=-=-
>
>> On Oct 29, 2012, at 7:44 AM, Dave C wrote:
>>
>>> When I select the top-level "Inbox" folder (which contains all the sub Inboxes for each account), when creating a new message, a particular From address is the default.
>>>
>>> How do I change this default?
>
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Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:01 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Dave C" davec2468

I think I figured it out:
The default From address for the top-level Inbox *is* that of the main account (presume it is defined by the first account Inbox inside the top-level Inbox), IF you do not have a message in the Inbox selected (highlighted). If a message is selected, the From address will be that associated with the selected message.

In other words, the From address assignment behavior is the same for Reply and New Message. Now THAT'S a bug.

Thanks,
Dave

2011 Mini 2.7 GHz dual i7 / 16 GB / 250 GB / 750 GB
OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard

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On 29 October 2012, at 9:50 AM, Island Center for the Arts wrote:

> You asked how to change the default. It is possible that the answer is "you can't" other than to select the mailbox in the Preferences>Composing pane. From there, if you select an account from which the email will be sent which becomes the default. All emails will have that "From" information until you change it in Preferences.
>
> Maybe somebody else has a better answer.
>
> On Oct 29, 2012, at 6:09 PM, Dave C wrote:
>
>> More info:
>> When I choose the top-level Inbox and press Cmd-i, the Account Info window opens and shows me information for the account associated with the first account-specific Inbox (inside the top-level Inbox). This is OK, no complaints about this.
>>
>> But doesn't this mean that new messages should have a default From address of this account?
>>
>> A bug?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dave
>>
>> -=-=-=-
>>
>> Thanks Tom.
>>
>> Currently it is set to "Account of selected mailbox".
>>
>> I like that when I *am* reading a particular mailbox, and when I create a new message it automatically selects the associated From address.
>>
>> But I frequently view the high-level Inbox (containing all others), and I would like messages created from this to be a particular From address. The From address for this Inbox seems random. Can this one be specified?
>>
>> Thanks again,
>> Dave
>>
>> Mail 4.6
>> 2011 Mini 2.7 GHz dual i7 / 16 GB / 250 GB / 750 GB
>> OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
>>
>> -=-=-=-
>>
>> On 29 October 2012, at 12:06 AM, Island Center for the Arts wrote:
>>
>>> Go to Mail Preferences>Composing. Mid way down (in Mail 4.6) under "Addressing" there is a "send new messages from: " you can select there the account you wish to use.
>>> Tom
>>
>> -=-=-=-
>>
>>> On Oct 29, 2012, at 7:44 AM, Dave C wrote:
>>>
>>>> When I select the top-level "Inbox" folder (which contains all the sub Inboxes for each account), when creating a new message, a particular From address is the default.
>>>>
>>>> How do I change this default?

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Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:06 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

Mac OS X 10.7 & 10.8 are available through the (Mac) App Store on your Mac. They were offered as downloads only. There were a few disc made available for 10.7, IIRC, but they are rare and hard to come by.

I believe the minimum OS to have the App Store on your Mac is 10.6.6.

Brent

On Oct 29, 2012, at 4:12 AM, redhillsranger wrote:

If one is interested in buying Apple OS software these days where can one find OS 10.7 or 10.8? Doesn't appear either are any longer offered by Apple at their store.

There must however, be some manner for those interested in acquiring the software. Even Ebay is lacking.

John

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Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:45 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

But, of course, if you have any earlier version of 10.6, you can upgrade to
the latest version (of 10.6!) for free.

Otto

On 29 October 2012 19:06, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:

> Mac OS X 10.7 & 10.8 are available through the (Mac) App Store on your
> Mac. They were offered as downloads only. There were a few disc made
> available for 10.7, IIRC, but they are rare and hard to come by.
>
> I believe the minimum OS to have the App Store on your Mac is 10.6.6.
>

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Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:07 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger


On Oct 29, 2012, at 4:12 AM, redhillsranger wrote:

> If one is interested in buying Apple OS software these days where can one find OS 10.7 or 10.8?

Lion
Call 1-800-MYAPPLE.
or
<http://www.amazon.com/Apple-Lion-10-7-Thumb-Drive/dp/B0089FELB2/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top>

Mountain Lion
<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/os-x-mountain-lion/id537386512?ls=1&mt=12>

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
___________________________________________

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Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:19 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Howdy.

Apple has moved to a download only software model.

You can purchase and download an installer for Mac OS X 10.7 Lion or
Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion.

We've had probably a thousand post on all the various aspects of this
new way of buying and installing system and other Apple software so you
could do a search on a specific topic or term for more info.

I recommend that after downloading the Lion or Mountain Lion installer
file that you first burn a part of it to your own DVD OS X installer
boot disc which you can do using Disk Utility. There are numerous
posts on how to do this both here and online at many Mac sites.

After doing this burn, then install the new system being careful to
read a bit about changes first.

Good luck!

Denver Dan

in wet wet wet wet windy Vienna, Virginia

On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:12:04 +0000, redhillsranger wrote:
> If one is interested in buying Apple OS software these days where can
> one find OS 10.7 or 10.8? Doesn't appear either are any longer
> offered by Apple at their store.
>
> There must however, be some manner for those interested in acquiring
> the software. Even Ebay is lacking.
>
> John

Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:15 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Oneal Neumann" newalander


> On 2012 October 28 , at 14:18, Daly Jessup wrote:
>
> On Oct 28, 2012, at 2:50 AM, Oneal Neumann wrote:
>
>> I proposed getting a Mac, for which I would pay. The problem is that I really don't know what's out there. I want to get her something used, perhaps a year or two old, on which she can do emailing, picturing storing and other minimalist stuff.
>
> I like looking at the Refurbished items at Apple's web site:
> go to http://store.apple.com
> Scroll down until you see the 'Special Deals' section in the column on the left. These machines are refurbished by Apple and come with AppleCare.
>
> However, if you are needing to buy something in Budapest, this probably wouldn't be possible or practical. I would suggest getting a used or refurbished iMac wherever one might be available.
>
> Daly

Thanx Daly. Checking out what's available here in BP is the next step. What I wanted was a recommendation, but I see that a used Notebook is probably the best way to go or perhaps a used 13" MacBook Pro.

I really don't really want to drop a lot of coin on a machine for very basic computing. I would have said to my girlfriend that a PC is best for the minimalist stuff she would do, however I have no ability to work with PCs.

Oneal

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Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:47 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

On 29 October 2012 19:15, Oneal Neumann <wardell.h.s@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Thanx Daly. Checking out what's available here in BP is the next step.
> What I wanted was a recommendation, but I see that a used Notebook is
> probably the best way to go or perhaps a used 13" MacBook Pro.
>
> I really don't really want to drop a lot of coin on a machine for very
> basic computing. I would have said to my girlfriend that a PC is best for
> the minimalist stuff she would do, however I have no ability to work with
> PCs.
>

If you think that something really basic would do, look at the Chromebooks.

Otto

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Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:18 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

Ken, I would take him in to the Apple Store.

Choice of OS is a very personal thing, but it really has more to do with comfort level.

Many moons ago, I used to work in Hardware at Sears. Guys would walk up to me and ask, which is better a table saw or a radial arm saw, and I would answer, the one you are most comfortable with. I could sell you a radial arm, but if you were uncomfortable or felt unsafe with it, you will never be happy with it. Then I would tell them the pros and cons of both and let them decide.

They would make the decision, they would be happy, feel safe with the saw, and I would have a customer that would come back to me for his next big purchase.

BTW, I disagree with Tod, if he is a hacker, then he should be an Android tablet. My personal experience with one at work, is it made me want an iPad even more.

Brent

On Oct 29, 2012, at 6:20 AM, Kenneth Silva wrote:

Tod,
Thanks for that info. My brother buys a new computer every decade or so whether he needs one or not, and just upgraded from AOL dial up running Windows 98 to Vista on a new Windows computer this year. He's a Windows user because that's what his job had, and he wasn't going to be bothered learning a new OS. He came from a world of backslashes and colons and (I think they were called) command prompts.
To say he's conservative is an understatement.

The Mini might be too small for someone in his 7th decade and poor vision to begin with, you think? I'm wondering about the full sized iPad now, as my 13" MacBook is a little difficult for me to see (I'm always using the "expand" tapping to make the pages larger so I can read them, and my eyes are better than his). I wonder if I should abandon the "surprise" gift and get him out to an Apple store to check them out before I buy something he can't use at all.

Again, thanks for your assistance.
Ken Silva
Phoenix, AZ

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Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:53 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"T Hopkins" todhop

So, your brother may be ready for a tablet in addition to his PC, but I'd think of it as an addition not a replacement.

Tablets are rapidly becoming PC replacements, but they are not quite there yet unless your needs are simple. For instance, if he wants a "real" keyboard, he'll need a dock to connect to and an accessory keyboard. For printing, he'll need a new tablet compatible printer. Tablet software is slow on support of direct printing and tablet word processing does not have the power of PC word processing. That's only one limitation.

Tablet computing is still very new. It's fantastic for communication apps and casual gaming and good as a portable extension of desktop computing. Not so great for "serious" work on it's own. And with the huge generation gap between his existing Vista PC and a tablet, I would not count on much compatibility between them.

The other major issue is that none of his existing Vista software will run on any tablet, even a Win 8 tablet. If he's married to certain apps, any upgrade may be rocky, but anything other than Windows will require complete change of apps.

But I'm not raining on your idea. I think everyone needs a tablet and tablets are the future. He'll have a blast, even if he doesn't know it yet. I'd go with iPad unless you really think he will want to hack it. I too come from the command-line era, but that doesn't mean I liked it. ;)

Cheers,
tod

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins-at-hillmanncarr.com

On Oct 29, 2012, at 9:20 AM, Kenneth Silva wrote:

> Tod,
> Thanks for that info. My brother buys a new computer every decade or so whether he needs one or not, and just upgraded from AOL dial up running Windows 98 to Vista on a new Windows computer this year. He's a Windows user because that's what his job had, and he wasn't going to be bothered learning a new OS. He came from a world of backslashes and colons and (I think they were called) command prompts.
> To say he's conservative is an understatement.
>
> The Mini might be too small for someone in his 7th decade and poor vision to begin with, you think? I'm wondering about the full sized iPad now, as my 13" MacBook is a little difficult for me to see (I'm always using the "expand" tapping to make the pages larger so I can read them, and my eyes are better than his). I wonder if I should abandon the "surprise" gift and get him out to an Apple store to check them out before I buy something he can't use at all.
>
> Again, thanks for your assistance.
> Ken Silva
> Phoenix, AZ
>
> On Oct 29, 2012, at 5:58 AM, T Hopkins <hoplist@hillmanncarr.com> wrote:
>
> > Going on the one big piece of evidence you provided, that he is a Vista user, get him an iPad. Here's my reasoning.
> >
> > Windows vs. Mac is more a personality question than a practical one. The iPad is (arguably) the best tablet around and anyone can use it. However, if someone is a true Windows fan (not merely an historic "user") then they MIGHT prefer an Android or Windows tablet. This is a question of personality. Macs are easy and stable, but Android and Windows machines are more "flexible" and configurable. For years, I enjoyed Macs but "preferred" Windows. Then came OSX and I found I could have my cake and eat it too.
> >
> > Because your brother is a Vista user, I'm deducing that he is conservative and not interested in being on the cutting edge. So he should get an iPad. And if he's older, get him the full sized iPad, not the Mini so he can actually see it.
> >
> > Next question is wireless only or cellular... that's about traveling.
> >
> > FYI, the Windows 8 tablets are here. If I'm reading your brother incorrectly and he does have a "hacker" personality, get him a Win 8 tablet and let him experience the cutting edge.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > tod
> >
> >
> > Tod Hopkins
> > Hillmann & Carr Inc.
> > todhopkins-at-hillmanncarr.com
> >
> >
>

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