2/20/2012

[apple-iphone] Digest Number 2907

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1.1.

Re: AT&T declares war on unlimited data users

Posted by: "MD" mickeydoyle13@gmail.com   mdoyle13

Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:16 am (PST)



I only cursory monitor my data because I'm on unlimited (wife too). It seems to run from 500mb to just over 2gb although once about a year ago I seemed to have close to 10gb data use (very surprised I didn't get some notice on that one). I do try to run off wifi as much as possible. I pay next to no attention to phone mins. since I generally have 5,000+ rollover every month. The wife and I have the 850(?) family plan but may use only 150-250 a month.

We are on ATT with a 4 and a 4S.

--- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Bauer" <rk911@...> wrote:
>
> alice, there will always be people who will try and pass the buck to anyone within arm's reach...nothing is ever their fault.
>
>
> ___________________________
> So people weren't monitoring their data/minutes usage themselves? It's nice to have the cell provider monitor the usage for that but I also monitor it. Always have.
>
> Alice
>

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Re: AT&T declares war on unlimited data users

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:52 pm (PST)




On Feb 18, 2012, at 1:20 PM, whiterabbit32@gmail.com wrote:

> So people weren't monitoring their data/minutes usage themselves? It's nice to have the cell provider monitor the usage for that but I also monitor it. Always have.

Alice, what do you use to monitor it?

I have not found an easy way to track data usage from the iPhone. I use PhoneView to keep a call log on the iPhone, but it does not give any data usage information.

If I go to Settings > General > Usage > Cellular Usage, I am told that I have used:

Call Time, current period 6 days, 1 hour, & lifetime 6 days, 1 hour

Cellular Network Data, sent 455MB, received 3.5 GB

Last Reset: Never

I know that is wrong. It is a 3GS that I bought July 2009. I know I have had many months that I have used 1-2 GB of data. I have done only one Restore of the Phone, after I installed iOS 5.0.1 in October 2011, because of a syncing problems. That might explain the 3.5 GB of data, but I hardly use the phone mode, so 6 days is more like the total usage from July 2009 on. From October 2011, it should be less than 400 minutes or 6 hours 40 minutes, NOT 6 days. I have averaged just over 100 minutes/ month for the last 10 years, and recently under 100 minutes/ month.

I'm with AT&T and never use all my calling minutes so I don't know if they give a warning text for calling minutes, but how would they give a warning for data usage if the target is moving for "unlimited" data.

Right now, I monitor my usage from my phone bill. And of all the utilities I have paid, the phone companies are the only ones that are consistently in error. The telco's are the only ones I have caught charging me, family and friends for calls we did not make, and I am talking going back pre- Ma Bell break up. So why should we trust them on data usage?

The last time, I had to threaten Verizon that I would press fraud charges with the FCC if they did not credit back 900 pay as you go minutes. I had bought a phone and calling minutes for a friend I hired as an employee. They were adding calls to his account for calls made from the East Coast, 20 minutes after he made a call on the West Coast, to me. That is an awfully fast flight cross country. I should have filed the charges anyway.

The electric company, occasionally used to guestimate a bill, when they could not make a reading, but it would be corrected when they read the meter the next month.

I wish there was an app that would track the cellular data usage and the WiFi data usage separately.

But the thread is about declaring war on unlimited data users, and 2GB is definitely not the largest users, if they include the tiered users in to the total. AT&T is playing games to get the "unlimited" users to give up the plan that AT&T grandfathered.

Brent

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Re: AT&T declares war on unlimited data users

Posted by: "David Morganstein" drm0223@mac.com   drm0223

Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:37 pm (PST)



Dataman is free & gives cell & wifi. It can send an alert when you use too much. It auto resets on a bill date you provide.

David

On Feb 19, 2012, at 4:42 PM, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:

>
> On Feb 18, 2012, at 1:20 PM, whiterabbit32@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > So people weren't monitoring their data/minutes usage themselves? It's nice to have the cell provider monitor the usage for that but I also monitor it. Always have.
>
> Alice, what do you use to monitor it?
>
> I have not found an easy way to track data usage from the iPhone. I use PhoneView to keep a call log on the iPhone, but it does not give any data usage information.
>
> If I go to Settings > General > Usage > Cellular Usage, I am told that I have used:
>
> Call Time, current period 6 days, 1 hour, & lifetime 6 days, 1 hour
>
> Cellular Network Data, sent 455MB, received 3.5 GB
>
> Last Reset: Never
>
> I know that is wrong. It is a 3GS that I bought July 2009. I know I have had many months that I have used 1-2 GB of data. I have done only one Restore of the Phone, after I installed iOS 5.0.1 in October 2011, because of a syncing problems. That might explain the 3.5 GB of data, but I hardly use the phone mode, so 6 days is more like the total usage from July 2009 on. From October 2011, it should be less than 400 minutes or 6 hours 40 minutes, NOT 6 days. I have averaged just over 100 minutes/ month for the last 10 years, and recently under 100 minutes/ month.
>
> I'm with AT&T and never use all my calling minutes so I don't know if they give a warning text for calling minutes, but how would they give a warning for data usage if the target is moving for "unlimited" data.
>
> Right now, I monitor my usage from my phone bill. And of all the utilities I have paid, the phone companies are the only ones that are consistently in error. The telco's are the only ones I have caught charging me, family and friends for calls we did not make, and I am talking going back pre- Ma Bell break up. So why should we trust them on data usage?
>
> The last time, I had to threaten Verizon that I would press fraud charges with the FCC if they did not credit back 900 pay as you go minutes. I had bought a phone and calling minutes for a friend I hired as an employee. They were adding calls to his account for calls made from the East Coast, 20 minutes after he made a call on the West Coast, to me. That is an awfully fast flight cross country. I should have filed the charges anyway.
>
> The electric company, occasionally used to guestimate a bill, when they could not make a reading, but it would be corrected when they read the meter the next month.
>
> I wish there was an app that would track the cellular data usage and the WiFi data usage separately.
>
> But the thread is about declaring war on unlimited data users, and 2GB is definitely not the largest users, if they include the tiered users in to the total. AT&T is playing games to get the "unlimited" users to give up the plan that AT&T grandfathered.
>
> Brent
>

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Re: AT&T declares war on unlimited data users

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:38 pm (PST)



Thanks David, I'll give it a look.

On Feb 19, 2012, at 2:26 PM, David Morganstein wrote:

> Dataman is free & gives cell & wifi. It can send an alert when you use too much. It auto resets on a bill date you provide.

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Re: AT&T declares war on unlimited data users

Posted by: "Archie C Grapa" archiegrapa@yahoo.com   archiegrapa

Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:01 pm (PST)



I use DataMan

Archie

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9to5Toys: 20% off iTunes gift cards, Minis starting at $551, iMacs a

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com   boulware0224

Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:47 am (PST)



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3a.

Re: Unsolicited Phone Calls and Text Msg.

Posted by: "Lynn" lynneifler@aol.com   lynvest2

Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:02 am (PST)



Thx Brent - I too getting way too many texts, calls unsolicited ... I actually put sci-fi ringtone on each & created TM call & text contact then add # to appropriate list so I know if they have called! I will forward these 50+/- #'s to the spam # provided.
This is so very annoying - AND I have replied STOP & I am on 'do not call' list! Ugh!! Who's is giving out our numbers?????

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Unsolicited Phone Calls and Text Msg.

Posted by: "Brent" flapdoodle@gmail.com   flapdoodle44

Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:20 am (PST)



Here is another AT&T reference page that might help:

http://www.att.net/smartcontrols-SpamControlsForWireless

On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 8:01 AM, Lynn <lynneifler@aol.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Thx Brent - I too getting way too many texts, calls unsolicited ... I
> actually put sci-fi ringtone on each & created TM call & text contact then
> add # to appropriate list so I know if they have called! I will forward
> these 50+/- #'s to the spam # provided.
> This is so very annoying - AND I have replied STOP & I am on 'do not call'
> list! Ugh!! Who's is giving out our numbers?????
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>

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4a.

iPhone without a plan?

Posted by: "rpoland" rpoland@usa.net   rpoland

Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:00 am (PST)



Hi,

I'm lusting for an iPhone 4S.

I currently use an AT&T go-phone, maybe 15 minutes a year.

My main reason for the iPhone is for calendars, contacts and smaller more portable (and easier to hide) and possibly stored data (not internet) than the iPad.

I have a Mi-Fi that I can load if and when I need internet access.

MY QUESTION: Is it possible to use the SIM card from the go-phone to enable an iPhone 4S for telephone use only?

Please reply from experience rather than guessing.

TIA,

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4b.

Re: iPhone without a plan?

Posted by: "sharonx9" sharonx9@gmail.com   sharonx1972

Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:44 am (PST)



Here's my experience. You can't use an iPhone at all without data in AT&T.
You can however unlock it and use it on a tmobile with their smallest pay
as you go plan. It's $15 a month. It's technically an unlimited texting
plan but minutes are only 10 cents each if you make a call. You can still
use the phone with wifi. So this might be a cheaper option if you don't use
the phone a lot.
Sharon

On Sunday, February 19, 2012, rpoland wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm lusting for an iPhone 4S.
>
> I currently use an AT&T go-phone, maybe 15 minutes a year.
>
> My main reason for the iPhone is for calendars, contacts and smaller more
> portable (and easier to hide) and possibly stored data (not internet) than
> the iPad.
>
> I have a Mi-Fi that I can load if and when I need internet access.
>
> MY QUESTION: Is it possible to use the SIM card from the go-phone to
> enable an iPhone 4S for telephone use only?
>
> Please reply from experience rather than guessing.

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Re: iPhone without a plan?

Posted by: "Tara Payne" hijump1@yahoo.com   tmayner

Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:52 am (PST)



It sounds like you would be better off with an iPod touch and use the go phone for calls. AT&T will add a data plan without your permission.

Tara

On Feb 19, 2012, at 9:42 AM, sharonx9 <sharonx9@gmail.com> wrote:

> Here's my experience. You can't use an iPhone at all without data in AT&T.
> You can however unlock it and use it on a tmobile with their smallest pay
> as you go plan. It's $15 a month. It's technically an unlimited texting
> plan but minutes are only 10 cents each if you make a call. You can still
> use the phone with wifi. So this might be a cheaper option if you don't use
> the phone a lot.
> Sharon
>
> On Sunday, February 19, 2012, rpoland wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm lusting for an iPhone 4S.
>>
>> I currently use an AT&T go-phone, maybe 15 minutes a year.
>>
>> My main reason for the iPhone is for calendars, contacts and smaller more
>> portable (and easier to hide) and possibly stored data (not internet) than
>> the iPad.
>>
>> I have a Mi-Fi that I can load if and when I need internet access.
>>
>> MY QUESTION: Is it possible to use the SIM card from the go-phone to
>> enable an iPhone 4S for telephone use only?
>>
>> Please reply from experience rather than guessing.

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Re: iPhone without a plan?

Posted by: "Robert Poland" rpoland@usa.net   rpoland

Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:09 am (PST)



Using an iPod Touch would mean carrying two devices which I'm trying to avoid. Although it would be better than carrying an iPad.

On Feb 19, 2012, at 8:47 AM, Tara Payne wrote:

> It sounds like you would be better off with an iPod touch and use the go phone for calls. AT&T will add a data plan without your permission.

> Tara
>
> On Feb 19, 2012, at 9:42 AM, sharonx9 <sharonx9@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Here's my experience. You can't use an iPhone at all without data in AT&T.
>> You can however unlock it and use it on a tmobile with their smallest pay
>> as you go plan. It's $15 a month. It's technically an unlimited texting
>> plan but minutes are only 10 cents each if you make a call. You can still
>> use the phone with wifi. So this might be a cheaper option if you don't use
>> the phone a lot.
>> Sharon

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Re: iPhone without a plan?

Posted by: "Mr Dave Sherlock" dsherlock.geo@yahoo.com   dsherlock.geo

Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:49 am (PST)



Apparently it is possible to do that. Erica Sadun of TUAW.com did an article on  What
is this "cheap" AT&T SIM with data for the iPhone that you often speak of?
Regards, Dave

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5a.

Re: Verizon iPhone freezing up

Posted by: "jay price" jrp1042000@yahoo.com   jay1price

Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:00 am (PST)




Ok, I was just wondering,,maybe the replacment might be more trouble,than what i have.Thank you for your info,jay
--- On Sat, 2/18/12, David Andreozzi <gabrielfan72@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: David Andreozzi <gabrielfan72@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] Verizon iPhone freezing up
To: "apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com" <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: "apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com" <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, February 18, 2012, 10:07 PM

 

Well it turned out that the one I had was fine so I told them I was keeping it and sending the replacement back

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 18, 2012, at 7:25 PM, jay price <jrp1042000@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Have you had any trouble from the replacment?thanks jay
>
> --- On Sat, 2/18/12, David Andreozzi <gabrielfan72@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> From: David Andreozzi <gabrielfan72@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] Verizon iPhone freezing up
> To: "apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com" <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com>
> Cc: "apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com" <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Saturday, February 18, 2012, 5:29 PM
>
>
>
> The only thing I would say is watch what they send you. I was sent a replacement that turned out to be a rebuilt phone, not a brand new one.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 18, 2012, at 6:14 PM, "jay1price" <jrp1042000@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi, I have a iPhone4, from Verizon and it freezes up when I am online or playing music. Just wondering if anyone else has had this problem?Verizon is sending me another iPhone, jay
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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6a.

password problem

Posted by: "fiver.driver" fiver.driver@yahoo.com   fiver.driver

Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:08 am (PST)



I have a 3gs phone on ATT. have had no problems to date. I went to
update my apps and got a "your password has been deactivated" pop up.
Went to iTunes on the PC and logged in successfully. Tried the phone
again,no luck. I then went to iTunes and changed my password. Recieved
an email that said it had been changed. It worked on the PC but still
won't work on the phone. I now get a pop up that says, "your password
was entered incorrectly" I have tried it numerous times to be sure it is
right. I contacted Apple to see if they could help but the want to
charge me $29.00 just to talk to someone. It's either Apples or the
Phones problem, I will not pay them $29.00 so that maybe
they can tell me how to fix it. Before I do that I will buy an Android &
switch to Verizon. Has anyone got any ideas before I go off the deep
end? Any help will be much appreciated.

Tom

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6b.

Re: password problem

Posted by: "Robert Poland" rpoland@usa.net   rpoland

Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:17 am (PST)




On Feb 19, 2012, at 10:02 AM, fiver.driver wrote:

> I have a 3gs phone on ATT. have had no problems to date. I went to
> update my apps and got a "your password has been deactivated" pop up.
> Went to iTunes on the PC and logged in successfully. Tried the phone
> again,no luck. I then went to iTunes and changed my password. Recieved
> an email that said it had been changed. It worked on the PC but still
> won't work on the phone. I now get a pop up that says, "your password
> was entered incorrectly" I have tried it numerous times to be sure it is
> right. I contacted Apple to see if they could help but the want to
> charge me $29.00 just to talk to someone. It's either Apples or the
> Phones problem, I will not pay them $29.00 so that maybe
> they can tell me how to fix it. Before I do that I will buy an Android &
> switch to Verizon. Has anyone got any ideas before I go off the deep
> end? Any help will be much appreciated.
>
> Tom

Tom,

I'd try your local Apple Store if that's an option.

Robert Poland - Fort Collins, CO

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6c.

Re: password problem

Posted by: "Richard Raiff" richraiff@gmail.com   raiffrj

Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:00 pm (PST)



Make sure that your user id on the phone is correct. I had the same problem
and it turned out that my iphone had somehow picked up my wife's id
for logging into itunes, we use the same instance of itunes on the PC and
that was where it switched the id, so using my password would not work. Had
to go in and reset it on the iphone.

*Rich Raiff*

On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 12:02 PM, fiver.driver <fiver.driver@yahoo.com>wrote:

> **
>
>
> I have a 3gs phone on ATT. have had no problems to date. I went to
> update my apps and got a "your password has been deactivated" pop up.
> Went to iTunes on the PC and logged in successfully. Tried the phone
> again,no luck. I then went to iTunes and changed my password. Recieved
> an email that said it had been changed. It worked on the PC but still
> won't work on the phone. I now get a pop up that says, "your password
> was entered incorrectly" I have tried it numerous times to be sure it is
> right. I contacted Apple to see if they could help but the want to
> charge me $29.00 just to talk to someone. It's either Apples or the
> Phones problem, I will not pay them $29.00 so that maybe
> they can tell me how to fix it. Before I do that I will buy an Android &
> switch to Verizon. Has anyone got any ideas before I go off the deep
> end? Any help will be much appreciated.
>
> Tom
>
>
>

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7a.

Syncing iPhone with google calendar

Posted by: "KIM" rktuson@sbcglobal.net   rkzeclan

Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:10 pm (PST)



Hi, does anyone know what I need to do to be able to get the appointments I make on my iPhone to sync with my google calendar? The appointments I make on my google calendar sync with my iPhone. My work uses a google app for gmail. thanks in advance!

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7b.

Re: Syncing iPhone with google calendar

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com   boulware0224

Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:37 pm (PST)



Add as Exchange - on Google click Help and there are detailed instructions
with photos on how to add and manage.

On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 18:03, KIM <rktuson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Hi, does anyone know what I need to do to be able to get the appointments
> I make on my iPhone to sync with my google calendar? The appointments I
> make on my google calendar sync with my iPhone. My work uses a google app
> for gmail. thanks in advance!
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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