2/25/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 8761

Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)

1a.
Re: Synchronization bug/problem with iCloud. From: Jim Saklad
2a.
Re: Synch problems with iCloud From: Nick Andriash
3a.
Re: (OT?) password apps for Mac & iPhone From: Jim Saklad
4.1.
Re: OS X Mountain Lion to be download-only, USB stick going the way From: Jim Saklad
4.2.
Re: OS X Mountain Lion to be download-only, USB stick going the way From: Jim Saklad
4.3.
Re: OS X Mountain Lion to be download-only, USB stick going the way From: Jim Saklad
4.4.
Re: OS X Mountain Lion to be download-only, USB stick going the way From: Jim Saklad
4.5.
Re: OS X Mountain Lion to be download-only, USB stick going the way From: Jim Saklad
4.6.
Re: OS X Mountain Lion to be download-only, USB stick going the way From: Harry Flaxman
4.7.
Re: OS X Mountain Lion to be download-only, USB stick going the way From: Bob Cook
4.8.
Re: OS X Mountain Lion to be download-only, USB stick going the way From: Jim Saklad
4.9.
Re: OS X Mountain Lion to be download-only, USB stick going the way From: Jim Smith
4.10.
Re: OS X Mountain Lion to be download-only, USB stick going the way From: Jim Smith
4.11.
Re: OS X Mountain Lion to be download-only, USB stick going the way From: Jim Saklad
4.12.
Re: OS X Mountain Lion to be download-only, USB stick going the way From: Randy B. Singer
4.13.
Re: OS X Mountain Lion to be download-only, USB stick going the way From: Randy B. Singer
4.14.
Re: OS X Mountain Lion to be download-only, USB stick going the way From: Harry Flaxman
5a.
CCLEANER From: Barbara B
5b.
Re: CCLEANER From: HAL9000
5c.
Re: CCLEANER From: Randy B. Singer
6a.
Re: can't play DVD copy From: Oneal Neumann
6b.
Re: can't play DVD copy From: luvtoso
7a.
moving emails from one computer to another From: Louise Stewart
7b.
Re: moving emails from one computer to another From: Jay Abraham
7c.
Re: moving emails from one computer to another From: Harry Flaxman

Messages

1a.

Re: Synchronization bug/problem with iCloud.

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:41 pm (PST)



> I have a MB Pro 17", 2.2g Intel Core 7, 8g Mem, (Early 2011) running the latest OSX (10.7.3) which has a synchronization problem with Address Book.
>
> I started out with an address book contents of about 300 items. I then enabled iCloud, and the system apparantly went through a synchronization.
>
> I then examined the content if address book on iCloud. It appears correct and has about 300 items in it.
>
> However, address book on the Mac Pro is . . . . EMPTY! Zero items; the synchronization step apparently wiped the whole dxxn thing clean!
>
> I really don't want to type in 300+ items again to get the MacPro back to normal. Since the iCloud has the info, is there any way to get it to act as the master and re-synch to regain the lost data on the MacPro?

Fom all that I've read, and experienced, in this regard, Apple regards the iClodu copy as the master copy. And if iCloud is correctly set up, synchronization of contacts between computer and iCloud is automatic and complete.

Also, every article I've encountered on the subject says to make complete backups of calendars and contacts before first starting iCloud.

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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

2a.

Re: Synch problems with iCloud

Posted by: "Nick Andriash" medic65@telus.net   andriash2005

Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:45 pm (PST)




On 2012-02-25, at 12:44 PM, redpup99 wrote:

> This iPhone has a valid 300-item Contacts
> on it. But now I'm afraid to back it up or synch it with
> the MacPro for fear it will erase all the entries on the
> iPhone to make it match the MacPro.

That is exactly what will happen if you sync your iPhone, so DO NOT SYNC your iPhone with your MBPro. When you open iCloud under System Preferences, is Contacts checked?

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 Nick Andriash 
andriash@telus.net
17" MacBook Pro, 2.3GHz Intel Core i7, Memory 8 GB, OS X 10.7.3
iPad2 WiFi & 3G, 64GB
iPhone4S 32GB

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3a.

Re: (OT?) password apps for Mac & iPhone

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:50 pm (PST)



> I have an iPhone 4S and a MacBook Pro running 10.6.8. I'm looking for a password synching app that does NOT require OS 10.7. Can anybody recommend one?
> Nicky

1Password
<https://agilebits.com/products/1password>

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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

4.1.

Re: OS X Mountain Lion to be download-only, USB stick going the way

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:54 pm (PST)



> Let see; if my download allowance of 450MB daily it will only take me 10 days to download. That is if I don't go over my daily allowance. If I go over and my ISP throttle me down I guess it take a few months. Or I could drive 200 miles or so, if we still have auto fuel available.
> Jim Smith

iMac, not Macbook?
No McDonald's wifi closer than 200 miles?

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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

4.2.

Re: OS X Mountain Lion to be download-only, USB stick going the way

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:55 pm (PST)



> If I were in your shoes, I would first contact Apple Support and make the situation clear to them. If they did not offer an acceptable solution, I would tell them to expect a class action suit.
> Sounds like a far more valid basis for legal action than "Antennagate."

Before making such a decision, I suggest you wait until the product in question is actually released, rather than losing your mind over it 6 months in advance.

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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

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4.3.

Re: OS X Mountain Lion to be download-only, USB stick going the way

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:06 pm (PST)



>>> If I were in your shoes, I would first contact Apple Support and make the situation clear to them. If they did not offer an acceptable solution, I would tell them to expect a class action suit.
>>> Sounds like a far more valid basis for legal action than "Antennagate."
>>
>> I disagree. No one is requiring him to upgrade.
>
> I agree, could get a PC (barf), beside that last class action suit with Apple I was eligible for I could get a discount on a new monitor, which I did not use. And the lawyers got the money!

No one suggested a move to Windows.
Someone merely pointed out that upgrades are not mandatory.

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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

4.4.

Re: OS X Mountain Lion to be download-only, USB stick going the way

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:08 pm (PST)



> I wonder, since Best Buy sells Apple computers, will they let you use their wifi? I agree that comments about "just go to an Apple store" are rather ignorant since you said that would involve a 200 mile trip. Only two land-based homes that I own are within 100 miles round trip from an Apple store. And, even while traveling, getting to an Apple store can be a major hassle.

And other sources of free wifi (e.g., McDonald's or Starbuck's) are so hard to find, too.

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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

4.5.

Re: OS X Mountain Lion to be download-only, USB stick going the way

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:09 pm (PST)



> Being the most valuable company on the face of the Earth, you'd think they could afford to put it on disc.

They can AFFORD to put floppy drives in your computer.
They choose not to.

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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

4.6.

Re: OS X Mountain Lion to be download-only, USB stick going the way

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com   hflaxman001

Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:15 pm (PST)



On 2/25/2012 7:12 PM, Jim Smith wrote:
>> >
>> > So, my query was never answered. How far, or how many months does it
>> > take you to drive to an Apple Store?
>> >
>> > Simple enough?
>> >
>> > Harry
>> >
> Is that a trick question?
>
> However I try to give an answer: About two hours one way, then maybe an hour or two to carry the 27" iMac from the car into the store(I'm 80).

If you had read the original post, Mountain Lion can be installed in any
Apple store using THEIR bandwidth. That's why I mentioned it. Read the
thread!

Harry

4.7.

Re: OS X Mountain Lion to be download-only, USB stick going the way

Posted by: "Bob Cook" cookrd1@discoveryowners.com   cookrd1

Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:09 pm (PST)



Obviously, either Jim S has never tried to download a 4GB file from McD or
his McD has way better WIFI than any I have been at. I tried a couple of
times for an iOS update on my iPhone and was never successful.

One of my residences has no cable or dsl available, or any option but
satellite. Although I haven't tried an Apple major release via satellite,
I have done several 2GB downloads within the nightly free 5 hour period.

Bob

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4.8.

Re: OS X Mountain Lion to be download-only, USB stick going the way

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:34 pm (PST)



> Obviously, either Jim S has never tried to download a 4GB file from McD...

True enough.
I use McD Wifi, but I don't need it for large downloads.
Before I had a DSL line (peaks at 2.7 Mbps), I would drive 20 minutes to use the Apple Store's Wifi.

> One of my residences has no cable or dsl available, or any option but satellite. Although I haven't tried an Apple major release via satellite, I have done several 2GB downloads within the nightly free 5 hour perio
> Bob

What's your peak download speed during that free time?
3.7 GB at an uninterrupted 1 Mbps would take about 8 hours, 15 minutes.

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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

4.9.

Re: OS X Mountain Lion to be download-only, USB stick going the way

Posted by: "Jim Smith" jas1931@gmail.com   jimmacsmith

Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:52 pm (PST)



Using satellite I have started the Combo update 10.7.3, which is 1.26GB.
So far it has downloaded 85.49MB in 10min. That cal. to about 150kb per sec(?). I have the rest scheduled during the free time(unregulated time) for tonight. I hope that it get done without getting FAPed (fair access policy). If not we our connection will be very very very slow.

Jim Smith
www.rvcarelogbook.com

On Feb 25, 2012, at 10:34 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:

>> Obviously, either Jim S has never tried to download a 4GB file from McD...
>
> True enough.
> I use McD Wifi, but I don't need it for large downloads.
> Before I had a DSL line (peaks at 2.7 Mbps), I would drive 20 minutes to use the Apple Store's Wifi.
>
>> One of my residences has no cable or dsl available, or any option but satellite. Although I haven't tried an Apple major release via satellite, I have done several 2GB downloads within the nightly free 5 hour perio
>> Bob
>
> What's your peak download speed during that free time?
> 3.7 GB at an uninterrupted 1 Mbps would take about 8 hours, 15 minutes.
>
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> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
>

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4.10.

Re: OS X Mountain Lion to be download-only, USB stick going the way

Posted by: "Jim Smith" jas1931@gmail.com   jimmacsmith

Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:59 pm (PST)



That last line should have been. "If not our connection will be very slow for the next 24hrs. That the recovery time."
Jim Smith

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4.11.

Re: OS X Mountain Lion to be download-only, USB stick going the way

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:34 pm (PST)



> Using satellite I have started the Combo update 10.7.3, which is 1.26GB.
> So far it has downloaded 85.49MB in 10min. That cal. to about 150kb per sec(?). I have the rest scheduled during the free time(unregulated time) for tonight. I hope that it get done without getting FAPed (fair access policy). If not we our connection will be very very very slow.
> Jim Smith

85.49 megabytes = 683.92 megabits.
10 minutes= 600 seconds.
That's a little over 1 megabit per second.

At that rate, 1.26 GB should take about 150 minutes, or 2.5 hours.

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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

4.12.

Re: OS X Mountain Lion to be download-only, USB stick going the way

Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com   randybrucesinger

Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:19 pm (PST)




On Feb 25, 2012, at 9:21 AM, paul smith wrote:

> If I were in your shoes, I would first contact Apple Support and
> make the situation clear to them. If they did not offer an
> acceptable solution, I would tell them to expect a class action suit.
> Sounds like a far more valid basis for legal action than
> "Antennagate."

On what do you base your assertion that Jim has some sort of legally
enforceable right to access to future versions of OS X?

Apple is entitled to make their products as difficult to purchase as
they like. Unless you have pre-paid for them, and now can't take
possession of them in any way, you have no legal right to force them
to make them more accessible. Your Mac, running an older version of
OS X, runs just fine. You haven't been harmed.

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
___________________________________________

4.13.

Re: OS X Mountain Lion to be download-only, USB stick going the way

Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com   randybrucesinger

Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:35 pm (PST)




On Feb 25, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Jim Smith wrote:

> However I try to give an answer: About two hours one way, then
> maybe an hour or two to carry the 27" iMac from the car into the
> store(I'm 80).

This really isn't a big problem, Jim.

When Mountain Lion comes out, if it is only available via download,
If you are willing to pay for Mountain Lion, and a big enough USB
flash drive, I'd be happy to download it, put it on the USB flash
drive, and mail it to you.

Lion (4.7GB) fits on an 8GB USB flash drive with lots of room to
spare. Mountain Lion shouldn't be much larger. Right now you can
purchase an 8GB USB flash drive for only $7 with free shipping:
http://www.jr.com/kingston/pe/KGS_DT100G28GBZ/

Let me know if you need/want me to do this for you when ML is released.

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
___________________________________________

4.14.

Re: OS X Mountain Lion to be download-only, USB stick going the way

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com   hflaxman001

Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:44 pm (PST)



On 2/26/2012 12:35 AM, Randy B. Singer wrote:
> When Mountain Lion comes out, if it is only available via download,
> If you are willing to pay for Mountain Lion, and a big enough USB
> flash drive, I'd be happy to download it, put it on the USB flash
> drive, and mail it to you.

Randy,

I'll stand in line to provide that service as well!! :)

Harry

5a.

CCLEANER

Posted by: "Barbara B" bpurdy13@gmail.com   sakura1313ca

Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:05 pm (PST)



Hi,
Just downloaded this free app from the app store. ccleaner
Does anyone use it? Don't want delete anything I shouldn't.
Thanks
Barbara from Montreal

5b.

Re: CCLEANER

Posted by: "HAL9000" jrswebhome@yahoo.com   jrswebhome

Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:52 pm (PST)



Originally for PC. Do yourself a big favor and completely back up
your computer files. Then use the free app. jr

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "Barbara B" <bpurdy13@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Just downloaded this free app from the app store. ccleaner
> Does anyone use it? Don't want delete anything I shouldn't.
> Thanks
> Barbara from Montreal
>

5c.

Re: CCLEANER

Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com   randybrucesinger

Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:42 pm (PST)




On Feb 25, 2012, at 5:52 PM, HAL9000 wrote:

> Originally for PC. Do yourself a big favor and completely back up
> your computer files. Then use the free app. jr

I just looked CCleaner's Web site:

I don't see that it does anything that you can't already do with your
Mac. And the Mac doesn't have a registry that needs cleaning, unlike
Windows.

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
___________________________________________

6a.

Re: can't play DVD copy

Posted by: "Oneal Neumann" wardell.h.s@gmail.com   newalander

Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:21 pm (PST)




Just got a bunch of DVDs that I will soon take to Europe and probably leave there. I made a copy of one --my first time-- to see if it will play, however I can�t get DVD Player to play it.

Why can�t I play the nondisc version? Do I have to burn the originals to discs before I can play them? I�d like to be able to make copies of the 10 Great Courses discs that I received.

Thanx. Oneal

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6b.

Re: can't play DVD copy

Posted by: "luvtoso" luvtoso@verizon.net   luvtoso@verizon.net

Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:27 pm (PST)



When you made the copy what was the format of the DVD you made??? Does your DVD player accept that format??? That is what you need to know.
Try playing it on the puter you used to make the copy and see if it plays.
Gayle

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7a.

moving emails from one computer to another

Posted by: "Louise Stewart" veggie236@earthlink.net   pudgybulldog

Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:58 pm (PST)



I've ordered a Mac Mini and it will arrive in a few days. I currently
have a G4 and use Mail for my email. I hope there's an easy way to
move my address book and all my emails to the new computer. If so, how?

I want to continue to use the G4 for a while for some things, but all
emails and anything Internet will be on the Mini. After I get all the
new software I need, then the Mini will be used nearly 100% of the time.

AND, if I don't want to upgrade my Quark software to be compatible
with the Mini, I guess there's no way for me to be able to use all of
those old files except on the G4. Right?

Louise

7b.

Re: moving emails from one computer to another

Posted by: "Jay Abraham" jaygroups@abrahamgroup.net   kerala01212001

Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:05 pm (PST)



Hi Louise,

Just use Migration Assistant and move all user files to your Mini. Then start up Mail and Safari on your Mini. Everything should work fine. You can continue to use G4 though I would avoid Mail unless you have set up as IMAP or with POP and leave messages on the server.

Jay

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 25, 2012, at 9:58 PM, Louise Stewart <veggie236@earthlink.net> wrote:

> I've ordered a Mac Mini and it will arrive in a few days. I currently
> have a G4 and use Mail for my email. I hope there's an easy way to
> move my address book and all my emails to the new computer. If so, how?
>
> I want to continue to use the G4 for a while for some things, but all
> emails and anything Internet will be on the Mini. After I get all the
> new software I need, then the Mini will be used nearly 100% of the time.
>
> AND, if I don't want to upgrade my Quark software to be compatible
> with the Mini, I guess there's no way for me to be able to use all of
> those old files except on the G4. Right?
>
> Louise
>

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7c.

Re: moving emails from one computer to another

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com   hflaxman001

Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:42 pm (PST)



On 2/25/2012 11:05 PM, Jay Abraham wrote:
> Hi Louise,
>
> Just use Migration Assistant and move all user files to your Mini. Then start up Mail and Safari on your Mini. Everything should work fine. You can continue to use G4 though I would avoid Mail unless you have set up as IMAP or with POP and leave messages on the server.
>
> Jay

MA is great provided you don't have something corrupt to start with.
I've used MA to move from machine to machine as I upgraded hardware.
The issue was that I did have something amiss that I didn't even know about.

I did a clean, 'hands on' update the last time I updated my OS and what
a difference! My machine ran like it never had before.

Not saying MA is not a good way to go, just saying use caution.

Harry

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