2/26/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 8762

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1a.

Re: can't play DVD copy

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com   hflaxman001

Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:45 pm (PST)



On 2/25/2012 2:30 PM, Oneal Neumann wrote:
> Just got a bunch of DVDs that I will soon take to Europe and probably leave there. I made a copy of one --my first time-- to see if it will play, however I can't get DVD Player to play it.

Why not use Handbrake to rip it to a file? I've never had the 'region'
requestor come up after I've dismissed it when using Handbrake.

handbrake.fr

Harry

2a.

Re: CCLEANER

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com   hflaxman001

Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:46 pm (PST)



On 2/26/2012 12:41 AM, Randy B. Singer wrote:
> I don't see that it does anything that you can't already do with your
> Mac. And the Mac doesn't have a registry that needs cleaning, unlike
> Windows.

Wow, jeez. Why not just go into the directory and delete the cache
files?? Or, better yet, use a FREE app like Onyx??

Harry

2b.

Re: CCLEANER

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com   hflaxman001

Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:48 pm (PST)



On 2/26/2012 12:41 AM, Randy B. Singer wrote:
> I don't see that it does anything that you can't already do with your
> Mac. And the Mac doesn't have a registry that needs cleaning, unlike
> Windows.

You know, Randy, just thought about it. The longer time goes on and we
get 'Windows-switchers', the more likely the money-grabbing software
houses will follow, doing things for money that we've had 'por nada' all
along.

What a shame.

Harry

2c.

Re: CCLEANER

Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com   randybrucesinger

Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:17 pm (PST)




On Feb 25, 2012, at 9:47 PM, Harry Flaxman wrote:

> You know, Randy, just thought about it. The longer time goes on and we
> get 'Windows-switchers', the more likely the money-grabbing software
> houses will follow, doing things for money that we've had 'por
> nada' all
> along.

Actually, that is happening more and more. There are now a bunch of
commercial anti-virus software products for the Mac from previously
Windows-only companies. I'm sure that recent switchers are
acquainted with these brand names and I'm sure that some of them rush
out to purchase their AV products. But I wouldn't install a single
one of them on my Mac if you gave it to me for free.

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
___________________________________________

2d.

Re: CCLEANER

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com   hflaxman001

Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:23 pm (PST)



On 2/26/2012 1:17 AM, Randy B. Singer wrote:
> Actually, that is happening more and more. There are now a bunch of
> commercial anti-virus software products for the Mac from previously
> Windows-only companies. I'm sure that recent switchers are
> acquainted with these brand names and I'm sure that some of them rush
> out to purchase their AV products. But I wouldn't install a single
> one of them on my Mac if you gave it to me for free.

I understand this. I have been acquainted with your work for years, and
I admire it and you. The situation is that now we have a whole new user
base, with a different and totally foreign ideaology. How to deal with
it? It is so succumbing that it will probably overtake the 'normal' way
of thinking in the Mac world.

I'd hate to see that. That is the beauty of Mac, whether it was System
7 or OS X. We had it. The unfortunate part is that people acquainted
with Windows will NOT lose their way of thinking. It is inbred within
them. I feel as if we're pi**ing in the wind.

Harry

2e.

Re: CCLEANER

Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com   randybrucesinger

Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:53 pm (PST)




On Feb 25, 2012, at 10:23 PM, Harry Flaxman wrote:

> The situation is that now we have a whole new user
> base, with a different and totally foreign ideaology. How to deal with
> it? It is so succumbing that it will probably overtake the 'normal'
> way
> of thinking in the Mac world.

What frustrates me the most is the influx of computer consultants
from the Windows world who don't know The Mac Way of doing things,
and they insist on telling Mac users that they have to do things The
Windows Way.

As an example, on an Attorney/Mac discussion list that I'm on, one
consultant told everyone that they should limit the number of
applications that they put on their Mac to three or four, and then
never add any more, because more apps might cause instability.

I almost spit out an internal organ over this. Even before the
advent of OS X, with its protected memory for apps, this wouldn't
have been good advice. One of the nicest things about the Mac is
that you can try new software with abandon, and it won't screw things
up, slow things down, or be hard to uninstall.

It's hard to protect switchers and new users from believing bad
advice from these Windows rejects.

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
___________________________________________

2f.

Re: CCLEANER

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:13 pm (PST)



> As an example, on an Attorney/Mac discussion list that I'm on, one consultant told everyone that they should limit the number of applications that they put on their Mac to three or four, and then never add any more, because more apps might cause instability.
>
> I almost spit out an internal organ over this. Even before the advent of OS X, with its protected memory for apps, this wouldn't have been good advice. One of the nicest things about the Mac is that you can try new software with abandon, and it won't screw things up, slow things down, or be hard to uninstall.
>
> It's hard to protect switchers and new users from believing bad advice from these Windows rejects.

In the Peanuts comic strip, one character once commented to another that it was going to take Linus 12 years just to UNlearn every wrong thing that Lucy was teaching him.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

3.1.

Re: OS X Mountain Lion to be download-only, USB stick going the way

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:30 pm (PST)



Thought it might be satellite. In your travels you come no closer than 200 miles of an Apple Store? Have you thought of finding a cyber cafe to do the download, where you might be able to plug in? Or a public WiFi hotspot like a library?

And no one says that you have to install the updates the day they come out. Sounds like one of the compromises you made when you decided to go on the road. If you want it that bad, find a way to get it.

Mountain Lion is not available other than in developer beta form, unless you are talking about updates to 10.7. If you don't have a fast internet connection, you don't want to be an early adopter of a new OS, anyway.

Brent

On Feb 25, 2012, at 3:00 PM, Jim Smith wrote:

> I'm in an motor home, connection is by satellite, Hughes Net. However it not that bad for me as I'm no longer full time and have cable at home. Now I spend about 3 winter months in Florida and about 3 summer months on the road in the summer.
>
> I guess my peeve is I can't download the latest OS updates for my wife's or my computers until I get home next month.
>
> I don't think people realize just how much internet activity their computer have. I looking at Little Snitch right now and there is activity every few seconds. Some of that is local, which does not effect the internet.
>
> <snip>
>
> On Feb 25, 2012, at 3:09 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
>
> > Jim,
> >
> > What type of internet connection do you have that is limiting you to 450MB per day? That is a serious question, since I am used to cable or DSL.
> >
> > Brent
> >
> >
> > On Feb 25, 2012, at 5:46 AM, Jim Smith wrote:
> >
> >> Let see; if my download allowance of 450MB daily it will only take me 10 days to download. That is if I don't go over my daily allowance. If I go over and my ISP throttle me down I guess it take a few months. Or I could drive 200 miles or so, if we still have auto fuel available.

3.2.

Re: OS X Mountain Lion to be download-only, USB stick going the way

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:01 pm (PST)



Good to hear they haven't disabled sneakerware.

And I like the legal review in the prior post.

Brent

On Feb 25, 2012, at 9:35 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote:

>
> On Feb 25, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Jim Smith wrote:
>
> > However I try to give an answer: About two hours one way, then
> > maybe an hour or two to carry the 27" iMac from the car into the
> > store(I'm 80).
>
> This really isn't a big problem, Jim.
>
> When Mountain Lion comes out, if it is only available via download,
> If you are willing to pay for Mountain Lion, and a big enough USB
> flash drive, I'd be happy to download it, put it on the USB flash
> drive, and mail it to you.
>
> Lion (4.7GB) fits on an 8GB USB flash drive with lots of room to
> spare. Mountain Lion shouldn't be much larger. Right now you can
> purchase an 8GB USB flash drive for only $7 with free shipping:
> http://www.jr.com/kingston/pe/KGS_DT100G28GBZ/
>
> Let me know if you need/want me to do this for you when ML is released.

3.3.

Re: OS X Mountain Lion to be download-only, USB stick going the way

Posted by: "Arjun Singhal" arjunsinghal@yahoo.com   arjunsinghal

Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:18 pm (PST)



how do you time app store downloads?

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Arjun
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On 26-Feb-2012, at 4:46 AM, Bob Cook wrote:

> Jim,
>
> On Hughesnet, you get unlimited downloads between 2AM and 7AM ET. You can
> use a download manager such as Folx to start and suspend/stop your
> downloads between these times.
>
> Getting ML on DVD or USB is really not a solution, unless you don't want
> point updates. As an example, the last update to Lion was 1.2 GB, as I
> recall.
>
> I wonder, since Best Buy sells Apple computers, will they let you use their
> wifi? I agree that comments about "just go to an Apple store" are rather
> ignorant since you said that would involve a 200 mile trip. Only two
> land-based homes that I own are within 100 miles round trip from an Apple
> store. And, even while traveling, getting to an Apple store can be a major
> hassle.
>
> -Bob
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3.4.

Re: OS X Mountain Lion to be download-only, USB stick going the way

Posted by: "Jim Smith" jas1931@gmail.com   jimmacsmith

Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:06 am (PST)




On Feb 25, 2012, at 11:34 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:

>
> 85.49 megabytes = 683.92 megabits.
> 10 minutes= 600 seconds.
> That's a little over 1 megabit per second.
>
> At that rate, 1.26 GB should take about 150 minutes, or 2.5 hours.
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
>
>
You were very close; Time: 2.21.11 to download.

Jim Smith

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4.

How to move data from PDF to Numbers?

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:30 am (PST)



I would like to know a way to move data from a PDF to Numbers. It is my data from my phone bill, no plagiarism or copyright infringement involved.

I do not want to buy Adobe Acrobat or Excel. I can reboot into 10.6 to use Excel, but I still don't want to buy Acrobat. Is there another way to do this?

Brent

15" MacBook Pro 2.4 GHz, early 2008, Mac OS X 10.7 & 10.6.8,

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