2/15/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 8742

Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)

1a.
Re: Shut Down/Boot Up PROBLEM From: Denver Dan
2a.
Re: External on IMac From: Tod Hopkins
2b.
Re: External on IMac From: Metaksa Tanya
2c.
Re: External on IMac From: Tod Hopkins
2d.
Re: External on IMac From: Harry Flaxman
2e.
Re: External on IMac From: Randy B. Singer
3a.
Formatting phone numbers in Address Book / Contacts From: Roger Harris
3b.
Re: Formatting phone numbers in Address Book / Contacts From: Jay Abraham
4a.
Re: My point on iCloud From: BLAINE GORDON
4b.
Re: My point on iCloud From: OBrien
4c.
Re: My point on iCloud From: BLAINE GORDON
4d.
Re: My point on iCloud From: Jay Abraham
5a.
Re: Blu-ray video Playback on Mac From: Otto Nikolaus
6a.
Safari/IP Scanner(off topic?) From: us2forever
6b.
Re: Safari/IP Scanner(off topic?) From: paul smith
6c.
Re: Safari/IP Scanner(off topic?) From: us2forever
6d.
Re: Safari/IP Scanner(off topic?) From: paul smith
6e.
Re: Safari/IP Scanner(off topic?) From: us2forever
6f.
Re: Safari/IP Scanner(off topic?) From: Otto Nikolaus
6g.
Re: Safari/IP Scanner(off topic?) From: Jim Saklad
6h.
Re: Safari/IP Scanner(off topic?) From: us2forever
7a.
Digital radio From: bill wisse
7b.
Re: Digital radio From: Otto Nikolaus
8a.
Re: Internal Hard Drives From: D. Brett Woods
8b.
Re: Internal Hard Drives From: D. Brett Woods

Messages

1a.

Re: Shut Down/Boot Up PROBLEM

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:44 am (PST)



Howdy Tex.

Many people have problems with the Seagate FreeAgent series of external
HDs.

A number of cheap external HDs like Seagate FreeAgent and Western
Digital HDs have problems. If you computer doesn't dismount the
Seagate before shutting down then something is clearly wrong.

My Mac has 4 internal HDs, 3 external (2 on eSATA and 1 on FW800), and
a NAS drive and shutdown happens in about 50 seconds normally.

You should be sure that the Seagate external HD is formatted for
Macintosh as Mac OS Extended and with the GUID Partition Table.

If it is not formatted with these two protocols, try reformatting it.
You will need to use the Partition tab, and in Partition Layout popup
menu, change "Current" to "1 Partition." Then click the Options…
button and the GUID table item. Then click Apply button. The reformat
should take about 20 seconds but obviously backup of data to a
different drive would take some time.

Some of the Seagate and Western Digital externals also have a peculiar
and difficult to cope with energy/saver feature built into the
circuitry of the drive case. This spins down the drive after a period
of time and I've seen some cases where this can cause problems
including with a shut down.

You can try to make sure that the drive is spun up before doing the
shut down. Might help.

However, I'd get rid of the Seagate ASAP. A lot of Mac folks here have
found good quality external drive cases at OWC.

Good luck.

Denver Dan

On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 17:39:04 +0000, texasdeadstick wrote:
> I have an iMac 2.8 GHz Intell Core 2 Duo, with 2 GB 800 Mhz DDR2
> SDRAM, and 4 external HDs - 2 are firewire 400 and two are USB.
>
> I can start shut down at 5 pm one day and return a 9 am the next and
> it has not completed shut down.
>
> If I unplug power on the 3T Seagate USB HD everything worked normal
> on shut down and boot up.
>
> Any ideas? ? ?
>
> Johnny Robertson

2a.

Re: External on IMac

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:47 am (PST)



I know others who have worked with 8 drive edit chains comfortably. It's all relative. Consider something as simple as drive power failure. This is pretty low risk. But is it still low risk multiplied by 8 drives in the chain? One bad drive often takes the entire chain with it. My peers are risk averse. Is the risk of more than 4 drives really significantly greater? That's impossible to answer. I've never seen anything better than anecdotal evidence.

When I talk about reduction in performance, here's a specific example (all FW800 on internal buss):

Drive Read Write (MB/s)

EHD 109 solo G-Raid2, 1TB 68.6 82
EHD 109 as second drive 69.1 79.3
EHD 109 as third drive 30.6 61.5

Note the drop in write speed from single to triple. For my work, 30MBps is unacceptable. A casual user might not care. That's still faster than USB (about 28MBps on current Macs).

Cheers,
tod

On Feb 15, 2012, at 11:20 AM, Harry Flaxman wrote:

> On 2/15/2012 10:19 AM, Tod Hopkins wrote:
> > Understood, but there is a vast gulf between theory and practice in everything computing. My advice is based on a decade of practice editing with large FW drives. I would not advise chains longer than four drives for regular use. Yes, you can connect more than that but your risk to both data (corruption) and hardware (heat) increase to levels that are commonly deemed unacceptable in casual setups.
>
> Understand where you're coming from as well. I"ve been using the
> interface successfully for as long as it's been available, with more
> than 4 drives. I have had up to 8 at one time, without the symptoms you
> mention.
>
> As far as decrease in throughput, in my experience, it's totally
> dependent upon who the controllers are manufactured by, as well as the
> drive mechanism's performance. I have a 10 year old LaCie, 250gb WD
> mechanism, that remains the fastest drive on my chain, whereas, a brand
> new WD case/controller with a WD 2TB mechanism, which remains my
> slowest as far as throughput goes. Naturally, I keep that on the end of
> my current chain.
>
> I have also had to chain using 800 at the beginning, with 400 at the
> end, of a 5 drive chain. No corruption or other problems with that
> chain as well.
>
> I do not hot-swap my drives at all right now, but have done so with
> chains in excess of 4 devices, without incident.
>
> Lucky? I don't know, but most of these configurations were not short
> term, so I suspect not.
>
> I'm very careful as to whose controller/case I use. I just happen to
> come across a good deal on the 2TB WD combo at the time, so I grabbed it.
>
> I don't know how much longer than than 8 devices I'd use right now. I'd
> stick with the longest I've had luck with.
>
> So far, so good.
>
> My new iMac, when I decide to get it, will naturally have a Thunderbolt
> bus. Hopefully by that time, the Thunderbolt devices will be more
> plentiful and lower in price.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Harry
>
>

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com

2b.

Re: External on IMac

Posted by: "Metaksa Tanya" tanya.metaksa@gmail.com   tmetaksa@att.net

Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:50 am (PST)



Harry,
How do you know which devices are the fastest or the slowest? Can you let me know?
Thanks,
Tanya
On Feb 15, 2012, at 8:20 AM, Harry Flaxman wrote:

> On 2/15/2012 10:19 AM, Tod Hopkins wrote:
> > Understood, but there is a vast gulf between theory and practice in everything computing. My advice is based on a decade of practice editing with large FW drives. I would not advise chains longer than four drives for regular use. Yes, you can connect more than that but your risk to both data (corruption) and hardware (heat) increase to levels that are commonly deemed unacceptable in casual setups.
>
> Understand where you're coming from as well. I"ve been using the
> interface successfully for as long as it's been available, with more
> than 4 drives. I have had up to 8 at one time, without the symptoms you
> mention.
>
> As far as decrease in throughput, in my experience, it's totally
> dependent upon who the controllers are manufactured by, as well as the
> drive mechanism's performance. I have a 10 year old LaCie, 250gb WD
> mechanism, that remains the fastest drive on my chain, whereas, a brand
> new WD case/controller with a WD 2TB mechanism, which remains my
> slowest as far as throughput goes. Naturally, I keep that on the end of
> my current chain.
>
> I have also had to chain using 800 at the beginning, with 400 at the
> end, of a 5 drive chain. No corruption or other problems with that
> chain as well.
>
> I do not hot-swap my drives at all right now, but have done so with
> chains in excess of 4 devices, without incident.
>
> Lucky? I don't know, but most of these configurations were not short
> term, so I suspect not.
>
> I'm very careful as to whose controller/case I use. I just happen to
> come across a good deal on the 2TB WD combo at the time, so I grabbed it.
>
> I don't know how much longer than than 8 devices I'd use right now. I'd
> stick with the longest I've had luck with.
>
> So far, so good.
>
> My new iMac, when I decide to get it, will naturally have a Thunderbolt
> bus. Hopefully by that time, the Thunderbolt devices will be more
> plentiful and lower in price.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Harry
>
>

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2c.

Re: External on IMac

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:56 am (PST)



I use two applications for throughput testing, both made specifically for editors:

AJA System Test (prefer this one)
http://www.aja.com/products/software/

Blackmagic Disk Speed Test
http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/38019/blackmagic-disk-speed-test

Many utility suites have more comprehensive testing. Sustained throughput is most important to editors, but not the most for servers or system drives.

Cheers,
tod

On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Metaksa Tanya wrote:

> Harry,
> How do you know which devices are the fastest or the slowest? Can you let me know?
> Thanks,
> Tanya
> On Feb 15, 2012, at 8:20 AM, Harry Flaxman wrote:
>
>> On 2/15/2012 10:19 AM, Tod Hopkins wrote:
>>> Understood, but there is a vast gulf between theory and practice in everything computing. My advice is based on a decade of practice editing with large FW drives. I would not advise chains longer than four drives for regular use. Yes, you can connect more than that but your risk to both data (corruption) and hardware (heat) increase to levels that are commonly deemed unacceptable in casual setups.
>>
>> Understand where you're coming from as well. I"ve been using the
>> interface successfully for as long as it's been available, with more
>> than 4 drives. I have had up to 8 at one time, without the symptoms you
>> mention.
>>
>> As far as decrease in throughput, in my experience, it's totally
>> dependent upon who the controllers are manufactured by, as well as the
>> drive mechanism's performance. I have a 10 year old LaCie, 250gb WD
>> mechanism, that remains the fastest drive on my chain, whereas, a brand
>> new WD case/controller with a WD 2TB mechanism, which remains my
>> slowest as far as throughput goes. Naturally, I keep that on the end of
>> my current chain.
>>
>> I have also had to chain using 800 at the beginning, with 400 at the
>> end, of a 5 drive chain. No corruption or other problems with that
>> chain as well.
>>
>> I do not hot-swap my drives at all right now, but have done so with
>> chains in excess of 4 devices, without incident.
>>
>> Lucky? I don't know, but most of these configurations were not short
>> term, so I suspect not.
>>
>> I'm very careful as to whose controller/case I use. I just happen to
>> come across a good deal on the 2TB WD combo at the time, so I grabbed it.
>>
>> I don't know how much longer than than 8 devices I'd use right now. I'd
>> stick with the longest I've had luck with.
>>
>> So far, so good.
>>
>> My new iMac, when I decide to get it, will naturally have a Thunderbolt
>> bus. Hopefully by that time, the Thunderbolt devices will be more
>> plentiful and lower in price.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Harry
>>
>>
>
>
>
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>
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2d.

Re: External on IMac

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com   hflaxman001

Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:07 pm (PST)



On 2/15/2012 2:50 PM, Metaksa Tanya wrote:
> Harry,
> How do you know which devices are the fastest or the slowest? Can you let me know?
> Thanks,
> Tanya

Tanya,

Reading ahead, Tod mentions a couple of good disk benchmarking programs.

There are quite a few to choose from. Search on Google and you'll find
many.

Harry

2e.

Re: External on IMac

Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com   randybrucesinger

Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:39 pm (PST)




On Feb 15, 2012, at 5:32 AM, Tod Hopkins wrote:

> In a simple chain, 4 FW devices will work fine, though you will see
> performance decrease for each drive in chain. You can, in theory,
> chain many more, but there are a variety of issues that start at
> around 4 drives.

Based on experience, and that of others, I recommend not daisy-
chaining more than two hard drives together in one Firewire chain.

Also, even though Firewire is hot plug-able, I highly recommend not
doing so with a hard drive, at least not without dismounting the
drive first. You never know when your computer might decide to write
something to the hard drive. If you disconnect a hard drive during a
write, you are likely to have problems.

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
___________________________________________

3a.

Formatting phone numbers in Address Book / Contacts

Posted by: "Roger Harris" skunktown@gmail.com   robo_booger

Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:19 pm (PST)



Is there a way to retroactively go back and re-format all the phone numbers in Address Book?

I have gone to Address Book/Preferences/Phone and selected "Automatically Format Phone Numbers", but that does not re-format existing phone numbers. Specifically I would like to get them all into the international format: +1 xxx-xxx-xxxx.

And then if I am successful at that, it should translate into my Contacts on the phone and iPad, no?

TIA, Roger

3b.

Re: Formatting phone numbers in Address Book / Contacts

Posted by: "Jay Abraham" jaygroups@abrahamgroup.net   kerala01212001

Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:33 pm (PST)



Not sure why it isn't working for you. If you did below it will reformat existing numbers. Note it won't add a 1 or +1 if it wasn't there already.
On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Roger Harris wrote:

> Is there a way to retroactively go back and re-format all the phone numbers in Address Book?
>
> I have gone to Address Book/Preferences/Phone and selected "Automatically Format Phone Numbers", but that does not re-format existing phone numbers. Specifically I would like to get them all into the international format: +1 xxx-xxx-xxxx.
>
> And then if I am successful at that, it should translate into my Contacts on the phone and iPad, no?
>
> TIA, Roger

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4a.

Re: My point on iCloud

Posted by: "BLAINE GORDON" pepsi440@me.com   blainegordon@ymail.com

Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:39 pm (PST)



I agree with you. If you are happy with your system and I am happy with mine, all is well. As for Apple forcing the issue, I don't see how but then I don't see a lot of things.
Blaine

On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:14 AM, Rob Frankel wrote:

> At 9:50 AM -0700 2/15/12, BLAINE GORDON wrote thusly:
> >I went to the cloud and am happy with it. I would never tell anybody
> >to change what works for them. I will point in the right direction
> >for change if I think there is one. The man at applecare said
> >eventually things will only work in the cloud. Old things that work
> >will no longer work.
> >
> >I guess that this is Apple's way of forcing you to the cloud.
> >However, if I had something else that worked for me, I would use it
> >until it is no longer viable, if ever.
> >
>
> Eventually? I can't imagine a time when Cloud participation will be
> mandatory or inescapable. It's just too limiting for those without
> convenient online access.
>
> Personally, this is the first time ever in my long-lived Mac history
> that I haven't upgraded. I doubt that I'll move any time soon,
> because everything works so nicely and privately on 10.6.8, with no
> need to upgrade any software.
>
> --
> Rob Frankel, Branding Expert
> Twitter: @brandingexpert http://www.RobFrankel.com
> http://www.PeerMailing.com http://www.i-legions.com
> http://www.FrankelAnderson.com
> Yes, there's an RSS feed blog, if you can handle it:
> http://www.robfrankelblog.com
>

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4b.

Re: My point on iCloud

Posted by: "OBrien" bco@hiwaay.net   conorboru

Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:07 pm (PST)



On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 09:50:28 -0700, BLAINE GORDON wrote:
> The man at applecare said eventually things will only work in the
> cloud. Old things that work will no longer work.

What things?


. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

O'Brien �V�V�V �V... .-. .. . -.
4c.

Re: My point on iCloud

Posted by: "BLAINE GORDON" pepsi440@me.com   blainegordon@ymail.com

Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:17 pm (PST)



He wasn't specific and I didn't care to ask. He may not have known what he was talking about for all I know.
Blaine

On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:07 PM, OBrien wrote:

> On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 09:50:28 -0700, BLAINE GORDON wrote:
> > The man at applecare said eventually things will only work in the
> > cloud. Old things that work will no longer work.
>
> What things?
>
>
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>
> O'Brien �V�V�V �V... .-. .. . -.
>
>

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4d.

Re: My point on iCloud

Posted by: "Jay Abraham" jaygroups@abrahamgroup.net   kerala01212001

Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:35 pm (PST)



Photo Gallery, iDisk, iWeb, etc. - all features of MobileMe which will not be ported to iCloud.

Jay

On Feb 15, 2012, at 3:07 PM, OBrien wrote:

> On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 09:50:28 -0700, BLAINE GORDON wrote:
> > The man at applecare said eventually things will only work in the
> > cloud. Old things that work will no longer work.
>
> What things?

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5a.

Re: Blu-ray video Playback on Mac

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:02 pm (PST)



Interesting stuff from Tod and Dan. I have no intention of using BD for
backups but it's good to know that it is now affordable (for single layer
anyway).

BTW I assumed the capacity differences Dan describes are due to the usual
decimal-to-binary "Gigabyte" conversion. For 25 GB I get 23.3 GiB and for
50 GB I get 46.6 GiB.

Otto

On 14 February 2012 18:35, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net> wrote:

> Howdy.
>
> I use BluRay BD-RE discs regularly now for data archives.
>
> The BD-RE term means a re-writable disc (if it were a DVD it would be
> termed DVD-RW, but "RE" is used for BD discs).
>
> Label capacity is 25 GB but actual capacity is about 22 GB.
>
> I've found BD-RE discs online for about $3.50 per blank disc. Depends
> on brand and where you shop, of course.
>
> But since you can store approximately the equivalent of 6 � DVD SL
> discs of data on one BD-RE the price has become competitive. Then
> deduct the value of your time to burn 6 to 7 DVDs or 1 BD-RE and you
> have a better comparison.
>
> For BD media, what is still exorbitantly expensive is the BD-RE DL.
> BluRay Re-Writable Double-Layer.
>
> Label capacity is 50 GB but actual capacity is about 46 GB. These can
> cost a lot each. I've seen them priced online from $18.50 to $35.00
> each these days.
>
> One BD-RE DL disc can hold roughly the equivalent of 10 � DVD-R discs.
>

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6a.

Safari/IP Scanner(off topic?)

Posted by: "us2forever" us2forever@frontiernet.net   rksangelkayann

Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:22 pm (PST)



They say there is no such thing as a dumb question so here I go. Below are the directions for the installation of software for an X10 camera. I am down to the last thing to do but where do I type the IP address in Safari? It doesn't work in the http:/

IP Scanner
Install the program
Run the program and it automatically displays all the network ip devices running including the AirSight Camera. The AirSight will be listed as �unidentified hidden device�.
Copy down the AirSight`s IP address, then open Safari. Type in the IP address and hit Enter

Thank you,
Kay
MacBook Air
Mac OS X 10.7
1.8 GHz Intel Core i7
4GB 1333 Mhz DDR3
MacBook
Mac OS X 10.6.7
2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
3 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM

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6b.

Re: Safari/IP Scanner(off topic?)

Posted by: "paul smith" kullervo@nycap.rr.com   waldonny

Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:38 pm (PST)



In Safari's address bar, erase *everything* (even the http:), and type in just the numerical IP address with the periods between the groups of numbers. Then hit your Enter key.
--
PSmith
MacBook Pro, 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB DDR2 SDRAM, OS 10.7.3 iPhone 4S 64 GB, iOS 5.0.1

On Feb 15, 2012, at 4:22 PM, us2forever wrote:

They say there is no such thing as a dumb question so here I go. Below are the directions for the installation of software for an X10 camera. I am down to the last thing to do but where do I type the IP address in Safari? It doesn't work in the http:/

6c.

Re: Safari/IP Scanner(off topic?)

Posted by: "us2forever" us2forever@frontiernet.net   rksangelkayann

Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:13 pm (PST)



When I click "enter" the http: automatically shows up and I get that it can't connect. I went through preferences and turned off all the auto fills but it keeps returning. Can you tell me how to get rid of it.

Thank you so very much.
Kay

On Feb 15, 2012, at 1:38 PM, paul smith wrote:

In Safari's address bar, erase *everything* (even the http:), and type in just the numerical IP address with the periods between the groups of numbers. Then hit your Enter key.
--
PSmith
MacBook Pro, 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB DDR2 SDRAM, OS 10.7.3 iPhone 4S 64 GB, iOS 5.0.1

On Feb 15, 2012, at 4:22 PM, us2forever wrote:

They say there is no such thing as a dumb question so here I go. Below are the directions for the installation of software for an X10 camera. I am down to the last thing to do but where do I type the IP address in Safari? It doesn't work in the http:/

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6d.

Re: Safari/IP Scanner(off topic?)

Posted by: "paul smith" kullervo@nycap.rr.com   waldonny

Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:34 pm (PST)



Instead of using the Enter key, try clicking on the little semi-circular "reload" arrow at the right end of the address field, after you have typed in just the numerical address. That should keep anything extra from being added.
--
PSmith
MacBook Pro, 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB DDR2 SDRAM, OS 10.7.3 iPhone 4S 64 GB, iOS 5.0.1

On Feb 15, 2012, at 5:13 PM, us2forever wrote:

When I click "enter" the http: automatically shows up and I get that it can't connect. I went through preferences and turned off all the auto fills but it keeps returning. Can you tell me how to get rid of it.

6e.

Re: Safari/IP Scanner(off topic?)

Posted by: "us2forever" us2forever@frontiernet.net   rksangelkayann

Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:52 pm (PST)



Same result: http:/ comes back automatically.

On Feb 15, 2012, at 3:34 PM, paul smith wrote:

Instead of using the Enter key, try clicking on the little semi-circular "reload" arrow at the right end of the address field, after you have typed in just the numerical address. That should keep anything extra from being added.
--
PSmith
MacBook Pro, 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB DDR2 SDRAM, OS 10.7.3 iPhone 4S 64 GB, iOS 5.0.1

On Feb 15, 2012, at 5:13 PM, us2forever wrote:

When I click "enter" the http: automatically shows up and I get that it can't connect. I went through preferences and turned off all the auto fills but it keeps returning. Can you tell me how to get rid of it.

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6f.

Re: Safari/IP Scanner(off topic?)

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:20 pm (PST)



A numeric IP address normally looks like
http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
or https:// ... for a secure connection.

The http(s) means the device is running a web server. Is this correct?

Otto

On 15 February 2012 23:52, us2forever <us2forever@frontiernet.net> wrote:

> Same result: http:/ comes back automatically.
>

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6g.

Re: Safari/IP Scanner(off topic?)

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:22 pm (PST)



> They say there is no such thing as a dumb question so here I go. Below are the directions for the installation of software for an X10 camera. I am down to the last thing to do but where do I type the IP address in Safari? It doesn't work in the http:/
>
> IP Scanner
> Install the program
> Run the program and it automatically displays all the network ip devices running including the AirSight Camera. The AirSight will be listed as �unidentified hidden device�.
> Copy down the AirSight`s IP address, then open Safari. Type in the IP address and hit Enter

You entered something like:

http://192.168.1.1/

(slashes and all)

Correct?

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

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6h.

Re: Safari/IP Scanner(off topic?)

Posted by: "us2forever" us2forever@frontiernet.net   rksangelkayann

Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:16 pm (PST)



No, I deleted the http:// and put in the numbers and periods only. But the http:// comes back no matter what I have tried.

On Feb 15, 2012, at 4:22 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:

> They say there is no such thing as a dumb question so here I go. Below are the directions for the installation of software for an X10 camera. I am down to the last thing to do but where do I type the IP address in Safari? It doesn't work in the http:/
>
> IP Scanner
> Install the program
> Run the program and it automatically displays all the network ip devices running including the AirSight Camera. The AirSight will be listed as ���unidentified hidden device���.
> Copy down the AirSight`s IP address, then open Safari. Type in the IP address and hit Enter

You entered something like:

http://192.168.1.1/

(slashes and all)

Correct?

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Digital radio

Posted by: "bill wisse" paulinemobill@gmail.com   billwisse

Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:55 pm (PST)



Hi all

I want to connect a digital radio to my wifi network but I'm at a loss here.

I've got a Macbook Pro and use 10.7.3.
I fired up the Airport utility but I cannot figure out how to add on
another device.

Can somebody help me here?

Thanks

BillW

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7b.

Re: Digital radio

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:24 pm (PST)



Hi Bill,

I think you need to tell us what sort of digital radio it is. Do you mean a
DAB receiver or something else? Is it supposed to connect to a network?

Otto

On 15 February 2012 23:55, bill wisse <paulinemobill@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all
>
>
> I want to connect a digital radio to my wifi network but I'm at a loss
> here.
>
> I've got a Macbook Pro and use 10.7.3.
> I fired up the Airport utility but I cannot figure out how to add on
> another device.
>
> Can somebody help me here?
>

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8a.

Re: Internal Hard Drives

Posted by: "D. Brett Woods" brettlyw@mac.com   brettlyw

Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:10 pm (PST)



Generally speaking, what do you all mean by arrays?

Just wondering.

Brett

On Feb 15, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Jim Saklad wrote:

> > This may be a stupid question but, do all the externals have to be connected at all times or can they be stored and used when needed just like floppy diskettes back in the day?
> > Bob
>
> 'Taint any stupid questions.
>
> Use 'em when you need 'em. Like floppies.
>
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8b.

Re: Internal Hard Drives

Posted by: "D. Brett Woods" brettlyw@mac.com   brettlyw

Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:15 pm (PST)



Oh, and regarding arrays or whatever solution you suggest, what is practical for an iMac desktop?

I have the "best" iMac desktop you could get in 2009, with maximum memory (16 GB) and processor (2.8 Ghz Intel Core i7).

But I'm really not in the Mac Pro category. The machine is just used for mail, internet, word processing, a little bit of iPhoto and iMove, but not much more.

Thanks again,

Brett

On Feb 15, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Jim Saklad wrote:

> > This may be a stupid question but, do all the externals have to be connected at all times or can they be stored and used when needed just like floppy diskettes back in the day?
> > Bob
>
> 'Taint any stupid questions.
>
> Use 'em when you need 'em. Like floppies.
>
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>
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>
>

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