2/25/2012

[apple-iphone] Digest Number 2912

Messages In This Digest (22 Messages)

1a.
Re: Email From: N.A. Nada
1b.
Re: Email From: Jeff Allison
1c.
Re: Email From: Paul Deyo
1d.
Re: Email From: Jim Saklad
1e.
Re: Email From: Jay Abraham
1f.
Re: Email From: Wayne & Janet Brunner
1g.
Re: Email From: Jeff Allison
1h.
Re: Email From: Techlady
2a.
Message charges AT&T From: Carol Corley
2b.
Re: Message charges AT&T From: Bill Boulware
2c.
Re: Message charges AT&T From: Dave Sherlock
2d.
Re: Message charges AT&T From: Dave Balcom
2e.
Re: Message charges AT&T From: whiterabbit32
2f.
Re: Message charges AT&T From: Jay Abraham
3.
Paying bill From: Paul Deyo
4a.
Re: 2 iPhones and music From: Mike Rodgers
4b.
Re: 2 iPhones and music From: lwr32
5.
Data Usage? From: Dave Balcom
6a.
iPhone user successfully sues AT&T over 3G throttling From: Brent
6b.
Re: iPhone user successfully sues AT&T over 3G throttling From: 4 Nikonkelly.com
6c.
Re: iPhone user successfully sues AT&T over 3G throttling From: Bill Sardone
7.
Name Change From: lwr32

Messages

1a.

Re: Email

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:04 am (PST)



That is a great personal opinion, but the way I have my email set up and the way I read it, POP works better and IMAP is the pain.

I have only a few of my accounts set up on my on my iPhone. Ones I want to be aware of, but not necessarily deal with. I'd rather deal with email on my computer.

YMMV,

Brent

On Feb 23, 2012, at 4:57 AM, Jay Abraham wrote:

Brent

> Hi Janet,
>
> If you can configure your e-mail with IMAP protocol then whatever you do on any device is reflected on the others. MobileMe is automatically set up as IMAP. Other e-mail providers usually allow you to set up your account as IMAP. There are a few exceptions that I know of - for example, Road Runner.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jay
> On Feb 23, 2012, at 6:06 AM, Wayne & Janet Brunner wrote:
>
> > I have an IPhone 4/4S. I have all my email accounts set up on my phone, as
> > well as in Outlook on my PC. This works out fine most of the time as I can
> > get my emails when I'm away from my PC.
> >
> > However, I'm getting a little tired of having to go through duplicate emails
> > on both devices all the time. If I read my email on my PC, then I have to
> > go to my Phone and delete all the emails I just went through.
> >
> > Does anyone know of a way that I can streamline my email, so that they don't
> > always show up on both devices all the time?
> >
> > Any help at all would be greatly appreciated.
>
>

1b.

Re: Email

Posted by: "Jeff Allison" jeff.allison@allygray.2y.net   jeff+allison

Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:14 am (PST)



Not sure about personal opinion.

if you want to access mail from multiple locations/devices IMAP is the only sensible way to go.

POP is a download once local mail protocol, and to try and do anything else with it leaves you relying on individual clients foibles.

On 24/02/2012, at 5:27 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:

> That is a great personal opinion, but the way I have my email set up and the way I read it, POP works better and IMAP is the pain.
>
> I have only a few of my accounts set up on my on my iPhone. Ones I want to be aware of, but not necessarily deal with. I'd rather deal with email on my computer.
>
>
> Brent
>
>
> On Feb 23, 2012, at 4:57 AM, Jay Abraham wrote:
>
>> Hi Janet,
>>
>> If you can configure your e-mail with IMAP protocol then whatever you do on any device is reflected on the others. MobileMe is automatically set up as IMAP. Other e-mail providers usually allow you to set up your account as IMAP. There are a few exceptions that I know of - for example, Road Runner.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jay
>> On Feb 23, 2012, at 6:06 AM, Wayne & Janet Brunner wrote:
>>
>>> I have an IPhone 4/4S. I have all my email accounts set up on my phone, as
>>> well as in Outlook on my PC. This works out fine most of the time as I can
>>> get my emails when I'm away from my PC.
>>>
>>> However, I'm getting a little tired of having to go through duplicate emails
>>> on both devices all the time. If I read my email on my PC, then I have to
>>> go to my Phone and delete all the emails I just went through.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know of a way that I can streamline my email, so that they don't
>>> always show up on both devices all the time?
>>>
>>> Any help at all would be greatly appreciated.

1c.

Re: Email

Posted by: "Paul Deyo" paul.deyo@gmail.com   crewcheef

Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:07 am (PST)



I agree with you. I have an iPhone, and an iPad, and a Mac. It is so simple to check email on any of the machines and read the ones I want to and delete. If its something to handle at home, I just leave it undeleted and its there when I get home. Rediculously simple.

--
Pul - n1pd
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On Friday, February 24, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Jeff Allison wrote:

>
> Not sure about personal opinion.
>
> if you want to access mail from multiple locations/devices IMAP is the only sensible way to go.
>
> POP is a download once local mail protocol, and to try and do anything else with it leaves you relying on individual clients foibles.
>
> On 24/02/2012, at 5:27 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
>
> > That is a great personal opinion, but the way I have my email set up and the way I read it, POP works better and IMAP is the pain.
> >
> > I have only a few of my accounts set up on my on my iPhone. Ones I want to be aware of, but not necessarily deal with. I'd rather deal with email on my computer.
> >
> >
> > Brent
> >
> >
> > On Feb 23, 2012, at 4:57 AM, Jay Abraham wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Janet,
> >>
> >> If you can configure your e-mail with IMAP protocol then whatever you do on any device is reflected on the others. MobileMe is automatically set up as IMAP. Other e-mail providers usually allow you to set up your account as IMAP. There are a few exceptions that I know of - for example, Road Runner.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Jay
> >> On Feb 23, 2012, at 6:06 AM, Wayne & Janet Brunner wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have an IPhone 4/4S. I have all my email accounts set up on my phone, as
> >>> well as in Outlook on my PC. This works out fine most of the time as I can
> >>> get my emails when I'm away from my PC.
> >>>
> >>> However, I'm getting a little tired of having to go through duplicate emails
> >>> on both devices all the time. If I read my email on my PC, then I have to
> >>> go to my Phone and delete all the emails I just went through.
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone know of a way that I can streamline my email, so that they don't
> >>> always show up on both devices all the time?
> >>>
> >>> Any help at all would be greatly appreciated.
>

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1d.

Re: Email

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:49 am (PST)



I agree with you. I have an iPhone, and an iPad, and a Mac. It is so simple to check email on any of the machines and read the ones I want to and delete. If its something to handle at home, I just leave it undeleted and its there when I get home.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

1e.

Re: Email

Posted by: "Jay Abraham" jaygroups@abrahamgroup.net   kerala01212001

Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:02 am (PST)



I actually believe IMAP is better for this. I get a lot of e-mail and it is easier for me to handle it once and not have to do it both on an iPad and on my Mac. When I travel for business, I may only take my IPad and be gone for several days then I would need to look at the Mail again on my Mac if using POP.

Before I got the iPad, I would use POP with the iPhone since the screen space/keyboard was not enough for me to take action on longer e-mails. However it would be a big pain if IMAP wasn't around now that the iPad gives me almost a fully functional computer.

Jay

On Feb 24, 2012, at 11:25 AM, Jim Saklad wrote:

> I agree with you. I have an iPhone, and an iPad, and a Mac. It is so simple to check email on any of the machines and read the ones I want to and delete. If its something to handle at home, I just leave it undeleted and its there when I get home.

1f.

Re: Email

Posted by: "Wayne & Janet Brunner" wajabrun@nelson-tel.net   janetsbrunner

Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:36 pm (PST)



Thank you to everyone for your helpful replies about getting email on more than one device. Now, I would like to try the IMAP but don't have a clue where to start. Can someone help an old gramma? I have my POP3 email set up now. How do I change it to IMAP on my iPhone?
Thanks in Advance!
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com [mailto:apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jay Abraham
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:01 PM
To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] Email

I actually believe IMAP is better for this. I get a lot of e-mail and it is
easier for me to handle it once and not have to do it both on an iPad and on
my Mac. When I travel for business, I may only take my IPad and be gone for
several days then I would need to look at the Mail again on my Mac if using
POP.

1g.

Re: Email

Posted by: "Jeff Allison" jeff.allison@allygray.2y.net   jeff+allison

Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:54 pm (PST)



Disable the POP3 config and call your ISP for the IMAP settings.

On 25/02/2012, at 10:32 AM, Wayne & Janet Brunner wrote:

> Thank you to everyone for your helpful replies about getting email on more than one device. Now, I would like to try the IMAP but don't have a clue where to start. Can someone help an old gramma? I have my POP3 email set up now. How do I change it to IMAP on my iPhone?
> Thanks in Advance!
> Janet
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com [mailto:apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Jay Abraham
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:01 PM
> To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] Email
>
> I actually believe IMAP is better for this. I get a lot of e-mail and it is
> easier for me to handle it once and not have to do it both on an iPad and on
> my Mac. When I travel for business, I may only take my IPad and be gone for
> several days then I would need to look at the Mail again on my Mac if using
> POP.
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

1h.

Re: Email

Posted by: "Techlady" techlady04@yahoo.com   techlady04

Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:18 pm (PST)



Yeah pretty much what I do too!
And it works well for me too.

TL

On Feb 24, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Paul Deyo <paul.deyo@gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree with you. I have an iPhone, and an iPad, and a Mac. It is so simple to check email on any of the machines and read the ones I want to and delete. If its something to handle at home, I just leave it undeleted and its there when I get home. Rediculously simple.
>
>
> On Friday, February 24, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Jeff Allison wrote:
>
> >
> > Not sure about personal opinion.
> >
> > if you want to access mail from multiple locations/devices IMAP is the only sensible way to go.
> >
> > POP is a download once local mail protocol, and to try and do anything else with it leaves you relying on individual clients foibles.
> >
> > On 24/02/2012, at 5:27 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
> >
> > > That is a great personal opinion, but the way I have my email set up and the way I read it, POP works better and IMAP is the pain.
> > >
> > > I have only a few of my accounts set up on my on my iPhone. Ones I want to be aware of, but not necessarily deal with. I'd rather deal with email on my computer.
> > >
> > >
> > > Brent
> > >
> > >
> > > On Feb 23, 2012, at 4:57 AM, Jay Abraham wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Janet,
> > >>
> > >> If you can configure your e-mail with IMAP protocol then whatever you do on any device is reflected on the others. MobileMe is automatically set up as IMAP. Other e-mail providers usually allow you to set up your account as IMAP. There are a few exceptions that I know of - for example, Road Runner.
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >>
> > >> Jay
> > >> On Feb 23, 2012, at 6:06 AM, Wayne & Janet Brunner wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I have an IPhone 4/4S. I have all my email accounts set up on my phone, as
> > >>> well as in Outlook on my PC. This works out fine most of the time as I can
> > >>> get my emails when I'm away from my PC.
> > >>>
> > >>> However, I'm getting a little tired of having to go through duplicate emails
> > >>> on both devices all the time. If I read my email on my PC, then I have to
> > >>> go to my Phone and delete all the emails I just went through.
> > >>>
> > >>> Does anyone know of a way that I can streamline my email, so that they don't
> > >>> always show up on both devices all the time?
> > >>>
> > >>> Any help at all would be greatly appreciated.

2a.

Message charges AT&T

Posted by: "Carol Corley" floridabouvs@gmail.com   floridabouvs

Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:55 am (PST)



Does anyone who has AT&T know how you can tell if you are being charged
only for green messages and not for blue? Is there a way to look up the
recipient of the message? My bill for messaging was higher than I was
expecting but I don't see any place on the bill to see the recipient of
messages.
Thanks,
Carol

2b.

Re: Message charges AT&T

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com   boulware0224

Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:07 am (PST)



For detailed billing/texting you have to look at your bill online - they
don't mail detailed (10, 20, 200 page bills anymore). I made the mistake
of clicking print one month and not taking from "All Pages" to "Current
Page" and I generated a 400 page print job - had to unplug printer to get
it to stop ;-).

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 09:52, Carol Corley <floridabouvs@gmail.com> wrote:

> Does anyone who has AT&T know how you can tell if you are being charged
> only for green messages and not for blue? Is there a way to look up the
> recipient of the message? My bill for messaging was higher than I was
> expecting but I don't see any place on the bill to see the recipient of
> messages.
> Thanks,
> Carol
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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2c.

Re: Message charges AT&T

Posted by: "Dave Sherlock" dsherlock.geo@yahoo.com   dsherlock.geo

Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:31 am (PST)



Does anyone who has AT&T know how you can tell if you are being charged
only for green messages and not for blue?

Yes, I am only charged for the green ones. I don't have a message plan and pay for each green message, no charges for the blue ones.

Regards, Dave
Sent from my  iPad

2d.

Re: Message charges AT&T

Posted by: "Dave Balcom" balcy24@gmail.com   balcy24

Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:02 am (PST)



On 2/24/2012 9:27 AM, Dave Sherlock wrote:
>
> Yes, I am only charged for the green ones. I don't have a message plan
> and pay for each green message, no charges for the blue ones.

I have exchanged dozens of blue texts with one phone number and it
doesn't show up on the bill.

2e.

Re: Message charges AT&T

Posted by: "whiterabbit32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com   lwr0032

Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:48 pm (PST)



I checked my data cellular data usage. Then I had an iMessage (blue) chat with a friend and then checked my data usage again. Data usage for the chat was very small. I believe I wouldn't have seen the data usage go up if I was using SMS (green). Is this correct?

Alice

Sent from my iPad 2

On Feb 24, 2012, at 7:27 AM, Dave Sherlock <dsherlock.geo@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Does anyone who has AT&T know how you can tell if you are being charged
> only for green messages and not for blue?
>
> Yes, I am only charged for the green ones. I don't have a message plan and pay for each green message, no charges for the blue ones.
>
> Regards, Dave
> Sent from my  iPad
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

2f.

Re: Message charges AT&T

Posted by: "Jay Abraham" jaygroups@abrahamgroup.net   kerala01212001

Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:04 pm (PST)



You wouldn't have seen data usage go up for SMS only but you shouldn't see it go up for an iMessage chat either. The amount of data is de-minemus and won't be shown at the level of detail captured by the iPhone tracking or at AT&T.

The likely cause was other apps, from Mail to other apps which you use which may be continually using data.

Jay

On Feb 24, 2012, at 4:48 PM, whiterabbit32 wrote:

> I checked my data cellular data usage. Then I had an iMessage (blue) chat with a friend and then checked my data usage again. Data usage for the chat was very small. I believe I wouldn't have seen the data usage go up if I was using SMS (green). Is this correct?
>
> Alice
>
> Sent from my iPad 2
>
> On Feb 24, 2012, at 7:27 AM, Dave Sherlock <dsherlock.geo@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Does anyone who has AT&T know how you can tell if you are being charged
> > only for green messages and not for blue?
> >
> > Yes, I am only charged for the green ones. I don't have a message plan and pay for each green message, no charges for the blue ones.
> >
> > Regards, Dave
> > Sent from my  iPad
> >

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3.

Paying bill

Posted by: "Paul Deyo" paul.deyo@gmail.com   crewcheef

Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:13 am (PST)



I just logged into ATT to pay my cellphone bill like I have ever since bill paying became available on their website. Now I am routed to the home phone site and am being told I have an old bill unpaid….. thats home phone not cell. It tells me I have to pay that old bill (5+ years ago) before I can pay my cell bill. Is this a new policy? Anyone seen this? If this is a new policy then I am done with ATT.

--
Pul
Sent with Sparrow (http://www.sparrowmailapp.com)

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

4a.

Re: 2 iPhones and music

Posted by: "Mike Rodgers" mikerodgerske5gbc@yahoo.com   mikerodgerske5gbc

Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:32 am (PST)



Alice, thanks for that how to link!

Mike R

4b.

Re: 2 iPhones and music

Posted by: "lwr32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com   lwr0032

Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:58 am (PST)



You are totally welcome.

I've learned quite a bit from this group and try to give back when I can. If I don't know I Google to see if there's an appropriate answer to share here. I know people are busy and need answers. That's what we're here for.

Alice

On Feb 24, 2012, at 8:31 AM, Mike Rodgers wrote:

> Alice, thanks for that how to link!
>
> Mike R
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

5.

Data Usage?

Posted by: "Dave Balcom" balcy24@gmail.com   balcy24

Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:02 am (PST)



I just checked my AT&T online account and over the last 2 nights my
iPhone 4S has sent a large amount of data between 11:30-11:45 PM. One
night was 23 MB and the other 21 MB. I am the only one with access to
the phone and was in bed. How can I find what is going out? All it shows
is 'phone'.

Thanks,
Dave

6a.

iPhone user successfully sues AT&T over 3G throttling

Posted by: "Brent" flapdoodle@gmail.com   flapdoodle44

Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:22 pm (PST)



http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/12/02/24/iphone_user_successfully_sues_att_over_3g_throttling.html

Sent to you by Brent via Google Reader: iPhone user successfully sues
AT&T over 3G throttling via AppleInsider on 2/24/12
In a California court ruling on Friday, an AT&T customer who saw a
reduction in his iPhone's download speed due to high usage, was awarded
$850 on claims that the telecom's throttling measures are unfair to
consumers.

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6b.

Re: iPhone user successfully sues AT&T over 3G throttling

Posted by: "4 Nikonkelly.com" kelly@nikonkelly.com   revkellytodd

Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:45 pm (PST)



This is exactly what I expected to happen. Right from the start
of this, I said that unlimited was to be unlimited no
throttleing, no caps, no nothing now, I have to wonder, will
ATT learn from this or will the rest of us have to do the same
thing.
Kelly Todd

----- Original Message -----
From: Brent
To: Apple-iPhone Group
Cc: Brent
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 6:22 PM
Subject: [apple-iphone] iPhone user successfully sues AT&T over
3G throttling

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/12/02/24/iphone_user_successfully_sues_att_over_3g_throttling.html

Sent to you by Brent via Google Reader: iPhone user successfully
sues
AT&T over 3G throttling via AppleInsider on 2/24/12
In a California court ruling on Friday, an AT&T customer who saw
a
reduction in his iPhone's download speed due to high usage, was
awarded
$850 on claims that the telecom's throttling measures are unfair
to
consumers.

6c.

Re: iPhone user successfully sues AT&T over 3G throttling

Posted by: "Bill Sardone" wsardone@att.net   wsardone

Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:53 pm (PST)



They have not made a decision if they will appeal. So it does not look like the $850 has been given. Also. I am not sure I saw that throttling would stop.

On Feb 24, 2012, at 10:43 PM, "" <kelly@nikonkelly.com> wrote:

> This is exactly what I expected to happen. Right from the start
> of this, I said that unlimited was to be unlimited no
> throttleing, no caps, no nothing now, I have to wonder, will
> ATT learn from this or will the rest of us have to do the same
> thing.
> Kelly Todd
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brent
> To: Apple-iPhone Group
> Cc: Brent
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 6:22 PM
> Subject: [apple-iphone] iPhone user successfully sues AT&T over
> 3G throttling
>
>
>
> http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/12/02/24/iphone_user_successfully_sues_att_over_3g_throttling.html
>
> Sent to you by Brent via Google Reader: iPhone user successfully
> sues
> AT&T over 3G throttling via AppleInsider on 2/24/12
> In a California court ruling on Friday, an AT&T customer who saw
> a
> reduction in his iPhone's download speed due to high usage, was
> awarded
> $850 on claims that the telecom's throttling measures are unfair
> to
> consumers.

7.

Name Change

Posted by: "lwr32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com   lwr0032

Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:28 am (PST)



Did the "internet" get a name change? I've gotten ligit emails and spam with the "internet" was referred to as the "interweb". Even CD Baby sent me their email using "interweb" instead of "internet". It may sound silly but it's just something that bothers me every time I hear it or read it.

Alice
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