2/13/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 8736

Messages In This Digest (16 Messages)

1.1.
Re: Where is iCloud data kept From: Jim Saklad
1.2.
Re: Where is iCloud data kept From: Jim Saklad
1.3.
Re: Where is iCloud data kept From: ed-reiff
1.4.
Re: Where is iCloud data kept From: N.A. Nada
2a.
Re: Finder alternative From: Denver dan
2b.
Re: Finder alternative From: Otto Nikolaus
3a.
hackintosh From: Richard Meyeroff
3b.
Re: hackintosh From: Dane Reugger
3c.
Re: hackintosh From: Richard Meyeroff
3d.
Re: hackintosh From: Tod Hopkins
4a.
Re: Which WiFi? From: Denver Dan
4b.
Re: Which WiFi? From: Tod Hopkins
5a.
Re: printer question From: Charles Lenington
6a.
Re: Default e-mail app From: Otto Nikolaus
7.
Re; hackintosh From: Bob Cook
8a.
Re: Scanner Resolution question From: Bill B.

Messages

1.1.

Re: Where is iCloud data kept

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:52 pm (PST)



> Sooner or later, but certainly, one of the "cloud" servers and the backups is going to fail, and everybody who has put there data (and trust) there is going to have a new understanding of loss. Then the debate will cease.

Presuming that they also have failed to make any local backup, perhaps.

F.U.D.

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1.2.

Re: Where is iCloud data kept

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:57 pm (PST)



> Trusting the cloud is like trusting the government. Or like trusting the capitalists. Who, by the way, are the ones responsible for moving our industrial base over seas. So much for patriotism or loyalty.
> Ardell Faul

May I respectfully suggest that this forum is NOT the place for political screeds?

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1.3.

Re: Where is iCloud data kept

Posted by: "ed-reiff" ed@reiff.com   ed-reiff

Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:21 pm (PST)





--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@...> wrote:
>
> > Trusting the cloud is like trusting the government. Or like trusting the capitalists. Who, by the way, are the ones responsible for moving our industrial base over seas. So much for patriotism or loyalty.
> > Ardell Faul
>
> May I respectfully suggest that this forum is NOT the place for political screeds?
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@...
>
"They" are not out to get you....... Oh, maybe they are.
You should have a local backup the cloud will have a backup. But what if they climb through my window and erase my computer and the backup-up too. Well the cloud has a backup, but if they get to that too? Then you should have a clone stored at your moms house that shouldn't be more than a week old. I hope you feel better now.

1.4.

Re: Where is iCloud data kept

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:21 pm (PST)



Apologies if I attributed it incorrectly.

But it is more likely that a server would be targeted for hacking than a personal computer. There are more potential victims thousands, possibly hundreds of thousands. Hack an individual and besides the owner, you might get several hundred to a thousand other e-dresses.

Individuals get hacked because of bad internet, bad downloading, terrible password, and bad email habits, or just bad luck, not because they are targeted. The only targeting might be social engineering, and that is pretty broad targeting, if not not targeting low hanging fruit. Social engineering is a passive attack.

An individual can take precautions against the bad habits, but bad luck is just bad luck. And granted, obscurity as your only defense is about as effective as keeping your fingers crossed against bad luck.

In fact, I would guess that very few personal computers are targeted for active attacks compared to the user's accounts they hold on someone else's server like Facebook, Paypal, Hotmail or wherever. If a personal computer is hacked, usually what is done is their address book is harvested for other users to spam or attack their accounts. Looking for someone with weak passwords.

Brent

On Feb 12, 2012, at 2:35 PM, Dane Reugger wrote:

> You are confused as to who is saying what - I said nothing about hacking
> accounts.
>
> Ed said
> "Your data is probably just as secure, if not more, on the server as it is
> on your local machine."
>
> That said I would generally agree with Ed as it's easier to hack a person
> than a computer. If you hack the person where the data is located probably
> wont matter much.
>
> -Dane
>
> On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 3:57 PM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > To the point Dane went, I agree with him, BUT...

2a.

Re: Finder alternative

Posted by: "Denver dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:57 pm (PST)



Hummmm.

Perhaps your sentence (quoting), "I've been using Macintosh Explorer primarily but it has its flaws and doesn't seem to be supported much lately," confused me.

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— my magical animal is a butterfly

On Feb 12, 2012, at 9:48 PM, Jim McGarvie <jim@mcgarvie.us> wrote:

> I've been using Macintosh Explorer primarily but it has its flaws and doesn't seem to be supported much lately.

2b.

Re: Finder alternative

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:56 am (PST)



Jim,

For some years I used Win XP (and briefly Vista) at work and Mac OS X at
home. I found that there was much less difference that most people seem to
think. Could you tell us the main issues you have with Finder?

Otto

On 13 February 2012 02:48, Jim McGarvie <jim@mcgarvie.us> wrote:

> Please re-read my message. I didn't mention "Microsoft Explorer." I said I
> had been using "Macintosh Explorer." It apparently can still be purchased
> on their Web site: www.ragesw.com.
>
> Finder may be efficient but I can't make it work the way I work. Maybe I
> need to change the way I work!
>
> Maybe if I learned more about it I would be happy with it.
>
>

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3a.

hackintosh

Posted by: "Richard Meyeroff" rem@meyeroff-c-c.com   rellmeyer

Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:30 pm (PST)



Due to reasons beyond my control I am bring forced to use a window 7
machine. I would like to run Lion, Linux and possibly Solaris on the
computer.

It is an HP 4320s it has an i7 chip, 4 GB of RAM and a 500 GB hard
drive. can anyone be of help either on line or off line my e-mail is
rem@meyeroff-c-c.com.
--
Have a Happy & Enjoy

Richard Meyeroff
tel: 410-258-7503
rem@meyeroff-c-c.com

3b.

Re: hackintosh

Posted by: "Dane Reugger" dane@downtownpc.com   dar2112

Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:28 pm (PST)



Linux would be no problem but you are going to need to decide on flavor
(Ubuntu, CentOS, Mint, Debian, etc) and method (Bootcamp or Virtual Machine
[Parallels, VirtualPC, Fusion, etc]). Then just Google it.

I've not tried it but as far as I know Hakintosh only works on very
specific models and not always well even on those. You should check the
compatibility list to see if you have a known compatible model. And even if
you get it installed I would temper your hopes.

I think OpenSolaris is still around and you should be able to run it in a
VM or even BootCamp - I haven't touched Solaris in a VERY long time.

Good Luck,
-Dane

On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Richard Meyeroff <rem@meyeroff-c-c.com>wrote:

> Due to reasons beyond my control I am bring forced to use a window 7
> machine. I would like to run Lion, Linux and possibly Solaris on the
> computer.
>
> It is an HP 4320s it has an i7 chip, 4 GB of RAM and a 500 GB hard
> drive. can anyone be of help either on line or off line my e-mail is
> rem@meyeroff-c-c.com.
> --
> Have a Happy & Enjoy
>
> Richard Meyeroff
> tel: 410-258-7503
> rem@meyeroff-c-c.com
>
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3c.

Re: hackintosh

Posted by: "Richard Meyeroff" rem@meyeroff-c-c.com   rellmeyer

Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:27 am (PST)



Dane

I am not looking to run Windows 7 on a Mac but Mac on windows 7.

>
>
>Linux would be no problem but you are going to need to decide on flavor
>(Ubuntu, CentOS, Mint, Debian, etc) and method (Bootcamp or Virtual Machine
>[Parallels, VirtualPC, Fusion, etc]). Then just Google it.
>
>I've not tried it but as far as I know Hakintosh only works on very
>specific models and not always well even on those. You should check the
>compatibility list to see if you have a known compatible model. And even if
>you get it installed I would temper your hopes.
>
>I think OpenSolaris is still around and you should be able to run it in a
>VM or even BootCamp - I haven't touched Solaris in a VERY long time.
>
>Good Luck,
>-Dane
>
>On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Richard Meyeroff
><<mailto:rem%40meyeroff-c-c.com>rem@meyeroff-c-c.com>wrote:
>
>> Due to reasons beyond my control I am bring forced to use a window 7
>> machine. I would like to run Lion, Linux and possibly Solaris on the
>> computer.
>>
>> It is an HP 4320s it has an i7 chip, 4 GB of RAM and a 500 GB hard
>> drive. can anyone be of help either on line or off line my e-mail is
>> <mailto:rem%40meyeroff-c-c.com>rem@meyeroff-c-c.com.
>> --
>> Have a Happy & Enjoy
>>
>> Richard Meyeroff
>> tel: 410-258-7503
> > <mailto:rem%40meyeroff-c-c.com>rem@meyeroff-c-c.com
>>

--
Have a Happy & Enjoy

Richard Meyeroff
tel: 410-258-7503
rem@meyeroff-c-c.com

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3d.

Re: hackintosh

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:46 am (PST)



Much harder than you might imagine. Apple has gone to some length to prevent this. You can find info online, but a "hackintosh" is really a hack and not for the casual user.

Cheers,
tod

On Feb 13, 2012, at 6:27 AM, Richard Meyeroff wrote:

> Dane
>
> I am not looking to run Windows 7 on a Mac but Mac on windows 7.
>
> >
> >
> >Linux would be no problem but you are going to need to decide on flavor
> >(Ubuntu, CentOS, Mint, Debian, etc) and method (Bootcamp or Virtual Machine
> >[Parallels, VirtualPC, Fusion, etc]). Then just Google it.
> >
> >I've not tried it but as far as I know Hakintosh only works on very
> >specific models and not always well even on those. You should check the
> >compatibility list to see if you have a known compatible model. And even if
> >you get it installed I would temper your hopes.
> >
> >I think OpenSolaris is still around and you should be able to run it in a
> >VM or even BootCamp - I haven't touched Solaris in a VERY long time.
> >
> >Good Luck,
> >-Dane
> >
> >On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Richard Meyeroff
> ><<mailto:rem%40meyeroff-c-c.com>rem@meyeroff-c-c.com>wrote:
> >
> >> Due to reasons beyond my control I am bring forced to use a window 7
> >> machine. I would like to run Lion, Linux and possibly Solaris on the
> >> computer.
> >>
> >> It is an HP 4320s it has an i7 chip, 4 GB of RAM and a 500 GB hard
> >> drive. can anyone be of help either on line or off line my e-mail is
> >> <mailto:rem%40meyeroff-c-c.com>rem@meyeroff-c-c.com.
> >> --
> >> Have a Happy & Enjoy
> >>
> >> Richard Meyeroff
> >> tel: 410-258-7503
> > > <mailto:rem%40meyeroff-c-c.com>rem@meyeroff-c-c.com
> >>
>
> --
> Have a Happy & Enjoy
>
> Richard Meyeroff
> tel: 410-258-7503
> rem@meyeroff-c-c.com
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com

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4a.

Re: Which WiFi?

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:23 pm (PST)



Howdy.

You didn't mention what version of Mac OS X you are using. Always
helpful. The terms I use here are from Mac OS X 10.7 Lion and may be
different from earlier versions of Mac OS X.

Open System Preferences, then the Network panel.

If you are only using Wi-Fi (previously called AirPort), then the Wi-Fi
service should be at the top of the pecking order listing of network
services (left column).

Select Wi-Fi with a single click.

The info about it appears on the right including the name of the
network you are currently connected to.

Click the Advanced button at bottom right.

A drop down card appears. The Wi-Fi tab should be active. Preferred
Networks is on this drop down card.

You can remove or add networks using the plus/minus buttons

To create your own network and name it you will access your Netgear
router using your web browser. You need to find the IP address for the
Netgear router. For many routers it is - 192.168.1.1 - but check
first because some routers may have a slightly different IP address.

Launch your web browser and type in 192.168.1.1 for the address. It
should immediately find your router and present you with a
configuration page that is produced by the router itself. You then
need to key in an administrative name and an administrative password to
access the various functions of the router like creating, naming, and
encrypting a Wi-Fi network.

If you don't know your Admin name and password, you will need to return
the router to factory defaults and then find the factor default Admin
name and password which is provided in the router's manual. This
factory reset is often done with a reset button on the router.

After you access the router as an administrator, you will find a
configuration page that lets you change the admin name and password to
something you select (don't forgot it). You can then create your own
network name and assign it a password and encryption type. My Wi-Fi
network name is DuoComm in honor of one of my cats named Cat Duo who,
when a kitten, would get on my desk and at 3:00 am punch dial buttons
on my desk phone (which had an address book) and he would sometimes
connect to somebody who would be very annoyed to hear, "meow" in his
ear at 3:00 am.

Depending on what the Wi-Fi signal has to pass through to get 50 feet
from the router it could be losing strength if it has to pass through
metal duct work, refrigerators, stoves, and stone. In addition,
cordless phones with the 2.6 MgHz frequency will interrupt Wi-Fi
signals which share the same frequency.

Denver Dan

On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:35:51 -0500, Donna Ells wrote:
> We have WiFi thru the local cable company using Netgear modem.
> There are 2 iMacs in our home and one wireless printer.
> My iMac is about 2 feet from the modem, connected wirelessly.
> Jack's iMac is about 50 feet away in another room connected wirelessly. The
> wireless printer is in that room also.
> The wireless printer works without a problem. So did Jack's iMac until
> recently.
>
> We live in a neighborhood where everyone has 5 acres ­ all around us.
> Jack's iMac has begun peculiar behavior in the past month.
> He is dropped from the internet unexpectedly. I notice each time that there
> are multiple modem options on his computer when accessing the modem pull
> down menu to determine is Airport connectivity.
>
> Our netgear is password protected. Apparently, others are not.
> Sometimes, Jack's computer is logging into a neighbor's netgear, and after a
> few minutes, he is dropped. If I go into the Airport pull down menu and wait
> for it to search options, it will provide 2 to 6 other options for logging
> in. So we have to keep choosing Netgear options until ours is finally found.
> We finally figured out Jack's computer is attempting to log into our
> neighbors' modems, because one neighbor recently purchased a Buffalo
> AirStation WiFi modem and now that option is popping up.
>
> How can we make it so his computer only searches for our modem?
> How can we make sure our neighbors are not accessing our WiFi?

4b.

Re: Which WiFi?

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:42 am (PST)



On Feb 13, 2012, at 1:23 AM, Denver Dan wrote:

> To create your own network and name it you will access your Netgear
> router using your web browser.

I would not advise doing this with a "rented" router if you are not comfortable with such devices. Let your provider talk you through it. In my experience, both Comcast and Verizon don't really care if you reconfigure, but why do it yourself when they will help. Even if you know routers, they know what their systems do and don't like.

Cheers,
tod

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com

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5a.

Re: printer question

Posted by: "Charles Lenington" macsonly@brightok.net   fooltouse2

Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:53 am (PST)



On 2/10/12 9:16 PM, Louise Stewart wrote:
> OK, so I cleaned the print heads and it printed out a perfect test
> sheet. All the black text was black and it printed 6 solid colored
> rectangles. Sooo, I thought, "Good, it's fixed." Then I printed out a
> page with just a small amt of black text. It came out partly black
> and partly green. When the printer is on, the 4 icons for the ink all
> blink, which I think mean it's out of ink. And when I clicked "print"
> I got a message that I was low on ink.

I had a c6180. The (02 cartridge) magenta print head fails a lot. Call Cartridge
World and ask them their observations for this printer. While the 6100 uses
a different cartridge, the same problem may exist.

6a.

Re: Default e-mail app

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:51 am (PST)



On 13 February 2012 01:34, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@me.com> wrote:

>
> Sorry.
> When I open System Preferences, the displayed name of the pref-pane is
> "Default Apps".
> If I look in "~/Library/Preference Panes" I see that the *actual* name of
> the app is RCDefaultApp.
> This *does* work in Lion.
>

That confused me too recently when I checked if I had that app. I saw
"Default Apps" in System Preferences and thought, "funny, I'm sure it was
RCDDefaultApp that I installed". As you found, they are the same thing.

Otto

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7.

Re; hackintosh

Posted by: "Bob Cook" cookrd1@discoveryowners.com   cookrd1

Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:36 am (PST)



>Due to reasons beyond my control I am bring forced to use a window 7
machine. I would like to run Lion, Linux and possibly Solaris <

tonymacx86.com
Any x86 computer can run OS X, if you can find the right kext's and also
have the knowledge to tie it all together. A better alternative is to build
one yourself using one of the recommended builds. If you are stuck with
the HP, search the site above for your model number.
However, you will probably be happier with a used C2D based real Mac, save
yourself the trouble.

Bob
On Feb 12, 2012 10:30 PM, "Richard Meyeroff" <rem@meyeroff-c-c.com> wrote:

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8a.

Re: Scanner Resolution question

Posted by: "Bill B." bill501@mindspring.com   kernos501

Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:47 am (PST)



At 1:32 PM -0600 2/12/12, OBrien wrote:
>On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:49:37 -0500, Denver Dan wrote:
>> I'll add one more thing about scanning software.
>>
>> A great feature to have is called "Descreen."
>
>It's useful, but not magic...just a blur operation, so the image might no longer be screened, but it will not be sharp, either.>

That likely depends on the descreen software. I have found Photoshop much better at "de-screening" than scanner software, as one has a lot more control over blurring and using different blurs on each color channel. Sometimes unsharp mask works best, sometimes motion blur works best. Also if one is scanning a screened image, starting with a scan at maximum dpi and then after blurring decrease image size (in pixels) in 10% steps until you have the needed size and dpi if printing. One can get very clear images from magazines and even newspapers doing this.

Bill B.

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