2/14/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 8737

Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)

1a.
Somewhat OT: Where is iCloud data kept From: michael kaplan
1b.
Re: Somewhat OT: Where is iCloud data kept From: Keith Whaley
2.1.
Re: Where is iCloud data kept From: Harry Flaxman
2.2.
Re: Where is iCloud data kept From: Michael P. Stupinski
2.3.
Re: Where is iCloud data kept From: Jim Saklad
2.4.
Re: Where is iCloud data kept From: Keith Whaley
2.5.
Re: Where is iCloud data kept From: Michael P. Stupinski
2.6.
Re: Where is iCloud data kept From: Keith Whaley
3a.
Re: hackintosh From: Jurgen Richter
3b.
Re: hackintosh From: Tod Hopkins
4a.
Re: Scanner Resolution question From: Jurgen Richter
4b.
Re: Scanner Resolution question From: Denver Dan
5a.
Re: How to add umlauts and emphasis marks in Word 2008? From: halboye18
5b.
Re: How to add umlauts and emphasis marks in Word 2008? From: Josephine Bacon
6a.
The Best Address Book App for Mac OS X [Mac App Directory] From: Bill Boulware
6b.
Re: The Best Address Book App for Mac OS X [Mac App Directory] From: Doug Yelmen
7a.
Late SJ Given Grammy Last Night From: Harry Flaxman
7b.
Re: Late SJ Given Grammy Last Night From: Harry Flaxman
8.1.
Re: Finder alternative From: Jim McGarvie
8.2.
Re: Finder alternative From: Daly Jessup
8.3.
Re: Finder alternative From: OBrien
8.4.
Re: Finder alternative From: Randy B. Singer
8.5.
Re: Russian keyboard From: Josephine Bacon
8.6.
Re: Finder alternative From: Otto Nikolaus
8.7.
Re: Russian keyboard From: Otto Nikolaus

Messages

1a.

Somewhat OT: Where is iCloud data kept

Posted by: "michael kaplan" view@att.net   mkaplan22

Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:24 am (PST)



Whether we talk about it or not, there is, however, an interface
between technology, economy and politics that is real and affects all
of us in our work. And surely it is talked about somewhere and at some
level by those who determine what technological tools we use, and
matters of how, when and where. We (the users) are just not usually
privy to those discussions.

Huge amounts of what I consider important (text and image) material in
my fields of interest have disappeared in the 20-year period I've been
using computers and the internet. For example, two private stores of
information (texts and images) have disappeared because the 'owners'
abruptly decided not to continue providing server space. Couldn't Wiki
in its entirety be terminated at some point -- without any prior
notice? Another archive of information lost thousands of its images
because servers like Flickr began to remove them. All gone. So we may,
indeed, be living in a period of time that will have no obvious
recorded history.

I say obvious because many of us still keep physical artifacts apart
from our computers. That material may, in the end, prove more valuable
than what is stored digitally.

Michael
Macintosh 128K
iBook G4

1b.

Re: Somewhat OT: Where is iCloud data kept

Posted by: "Keith Whaley" keith_w@dslextreme.com   keith9600

Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:19 am (PST)



michael kaplan wrote:
> Whether we talk about it or not, there is, however, an interface
> between technology, economy and politics that is real and affects all
> of us in our work. And surely it is talked about somewhere and at some
> level by those who determine what technological tools we use, and
> matters of how, when and where. We (the users) are just not usually
> privy to those discussions.

True.

> Huge amounts of what I consider important (text and image) material in
> my fields of interest have disappeared in the 20-year period I've been
> using computers and the internet. For example, two private stores of
> information (texts and images) have disappeared because the 'owners'
> abruptly decided not to continue providing server space. Couldn't Wiki
> in its entirety be terminated at some point -- without any prior
> notice? Another archive of information lost thousands of its images
> because servers like Flickr began to remove them. All gone. So we may,
> indeed, be living in a period of time that will have no obvious
> recorded history.

I understand. Well pointed out.

> I say obvious because many of us still keep physical artifacts apart
> from our computers. That material may, in the end, prove more valuable
> than what is stored digitally.

Only because of the impermanence of magnetic storage and the whims of
our data keepers. Always the weak links.
Usta think storing stuff on 3.5" HD disc s was the way to go, then was
disabused of that notion, because of the magnetic material not being
archival.
Then I thought recording it on optical discs was a far better
substitute. Might or might not be, I guess...

> Michael
> Macintosh 128K
> iBook G4

Wow. You ARE living in the past, computer-wise! <g>
Unless those are just your still-working antiques.

keith whaley

2.1.

Re: Where is iCloud data kept

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com   hflaxman001

Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:34 am (PST)



On 2/12/2012 9:57 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:
>> Trusting the cloud is like trusting the government. Or like trusting the capitalists. Who, by the way, are the ones responsible for moving our industrial base over seas. So much for patriotism or loyalty.
>> > Ardell Faul
> May I respectfully suggest that this forum is NOT the place for political screeds?

Isn't this thread getting quite a bit OT for this group?? There is no
troubleshooting here any longer.

What do you think, Michel?

Harry

2.2.

Re: Where is iCloud data kept

Posted by: "Michael P. Stupinski" mpstupinski@snet.net   mstupinski

Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:43 am (PST)



Well, I think a healthy discussion of how iCloud (and the 'cloud'
concept in general) works and what to expect from it is tightly tied
to 'Mac Support,' don't you? I do think, though, that diversions to
political opinions are OT.

............Mike

On Feb 13, 2012, at 9:34 AM, Harry Flaxman wrote:

> On 2/12/2012 9:57 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:
>>> Trusting the cloud is like trusting the government. Or like
>>> trusting the capitalists. Who, by the way, are the ones
>>> responsible for moving our industrial base over seas. So much for
>>> patriotism or loyalty.
>>>> Ardell Faul
>> May I respectfully suggest that this forum is NOT the place for
>> political screeds?
>
> Isn't this thread getting quite a bit OT for this group?? There is no
> troubleshooting here any longer.
>
> What do you think, Michel?
>
> Harry
>

2.3.

Re: Where is iCloud data kept

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:18 am (PST)



> Well, I think a healthy discussion of how iCloud (and the 'cloud' concept in general) works and what to expect from it is tightly tied to 'Mac Support,' don't you?

A bunch of people repeatedly asking the same question, over and over, and a bunch more people replying with guesses, "I don't know"s, and unsupported personal opinions does not constitute "a healthy discussion".

--
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

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2.4.

Re: Where is iCloud data kept

Posted by: "Keith Whaley" keith_w@dslextreme.com   keith9600

Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:27 am (PST)



Jim Saklad wrote:
> > Well, I think a healthy discussion of how iCloud (and the 'cloud'
> concept in general) works and what to expect from it is tightly tied to
> 'Mac Support,' don't you?
>
> A bunch of people repeatedly asking the same question, over and over,
> and a bunch more people replying with guesses, "I don't know"s, and
> unsupported personal opinions does not constitute "a healthy discussion".
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Saklad

Right. All those--that chatter--only serves to point out where the
problem lies. Part of the lon-going problem statement.
It DOES seem to me tho' that responses like that are glaring evidence
that a LOT of people do not yet understand the concepts behind cloud
storage and the like, and are mostly confused. Amorphous, like a cloud.
If that doesn't fit into MacSupport, I don't know what does.

My vote is, it's pertinent.

Sans political color, please. <smile>

keith whaley

2.5.

Re: Where is iCloud data kept

Posted by: "Michael P. Stupinski" mpstupinski@snet.net   mstupinski

Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:32 pm (PST)



Of course it would have been healthier if someone with the knowledge
had given a clear, authoritative answer to the "bunch of people"
seeking the answer(s).

.........Mike

On Feb 13, 2012, at 1:18 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:

>> Well, I think a healthy discussion of how iCloud (and the 'cloud'
>> concept in general) works and what to expect from it is tightly
>> tied to 'Mac Support,' don't you?
>
> A bunch of people repeatedly asking the same question, over and
> over, and a bunch more people replying with guesses, "I don't
> know"s, and unsupported personal opinions does not constitute "a
> healthy discussion".
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
>
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2.6.

Re: Where is iCloud data kept

Posted by: "Keith Whaley" keith_w@dslextreme.com   keith9600

Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:49 pm (PST)



Michael P. Stupinski wrote:
> Of course it would have been healthier if someone with the knowledge
> had given a clear, authoritative answer to the "bunch of people"
> seeking the answer(s).
>
> .........Mike

Yes. Wouldn't it have.

keith
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3a.

Re: hackintosh

Posted by: "Jurgen Richter" yahoo-1@sympatico.ca   epsongroups

Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:01 am (PST)



Look at your local craigslist or kijiji sites - there may be a service
who will configure yours or build you a custom one.

Most hackintoshes are booted into either OSX and/or some flavor of Windows.
People build these for really two reasons - they want a "cheaper"
alternative to the Apple hardware and want to run OSX instead, or they
are hobbyists who like a real challenge, "because they can do it".
"Cheaper" is a matter of perspective - it's the hard/software costs and
your time...

Unless you are running a virtual machine at the same time, you have to
choose your OS and boot into it.
In a number of these machines, not necessarily all components are
functional under the "foreign" OS, as drivers were never created for
them, and hacks may not exist [yet] - so it depends what you want to run
under OSX and what you have to run under Windows.

It would be much easier to use a Mac, run Parallels or VMFusion and
install Windows 7 on it, AND you can run them simultaneously; or use
Bootcamp to boot into either OS. Just saying it would be easier and it
just works, but not what you asked for.

3b.

Re: hackintosh

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:35 am (PST)



Actually, you can use either Parallels or VMWare Workstation (both use the same name) to install Mac OSX on your Windows machine.

Cheers,
tod

On Feb 13, 2012, at 10:01 AM, Jurgen Richter wrote:

> Look at your local craigslist or kijiji sites - there may be a service
> who will configure yours or build you a custom one.
>
> Most hackintoshes are booted into either OSX and/or some flavor of Windows.
> People build these for really two reasons - they want a "cheaper"
> alternative to the Apple hardware and want to run OSX instead, or they
> are hobbyists who like a real challenge, "because they can do it".
> "Cheaper" is a matter of perspective - it's the hard/software costs and
> your time...
>
> Unless you are running a virtual machine at the same time, you have to
> choose your OS and boot into it.
> In a number of these machines, not necessarily all components are
> functional under the "foreign" OS, as drivers were never created for
> them, and hacks may not exist [yet] - so it depends what you want to run
> under OSX and what you have to run under Windows.
>
> It would be much easier to use a Mac, run Parallels or VMFusion and
> install Windows 7 on it, AND you can run them simultaneously; or use
> Bootcamp to boot into either OS. Just saying it would be easier and it
> just works, but not what you asked for.
>

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com

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4a.

Re: Scanner Resolution question

Posted by: "Jurgen Richter" yahoo-1@sympatico.ca   epsongroups

Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:15 am (PST)




> Denver Dan wrote:
> I'll add one more thing about scanning software.
> A great feature to have is called "Descreen."
> It's useful, but not magic...just a blur operation, so the image
might no longer be screened, but it will not be sharp, either.>

... Unless your descreening software is intuitive and can determine the
screen value used in the printed piece you are scanning, your results
may be less than optimal. My old Agfa scanner did do a really good job
of it, but I had to determine the screening LPI value and plug that into
a field before scanning. I have a device from Caprock that you place
over an offset-printed image that will determine the Lines Per Inch
used. Used it for years, but it is "old-school" hardware. Still
available after all these years.

It's a clear plastic template that has a pattern printed on it that
aligns with the pattern in the image. You just read it off the scale.
See here:

http://www.caprockdev.com/tools.htm

down near the bottom at "Precision Screen Finder/Mesh Counter"

"Real expensive at $7" They have a lot of other interesting instruments.

4b.

Re: Scanner Resolution question

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:24 am (PST)



Howdy.

Bill B., I don't think there is a specific Descreen filter or function
in Photoshop. There are 3rd party descreen filters available, however.

Without a download of a free or commercial descreen filter there are a
variety of techniques for removing moire dot patters from printed
material.

1. Try the scan again but be prepared to rotate the image on the glass
by 15 degrees. This may reduce some of the moire patter.

2. You can try the Channels function in Photoshop but I suspect this
would be daunting for many Photoshop users.

3. A blur filter or a despeckle filter may help but will also blur the
actual image unless you can select or mask the area not to be blurred
or despeckeled.

Some scanners that use, or have available higher end 3rd party scanner
software have the ability to make adjustments to the descreen
function. A scanner that I used to use had settings in descreen for
newsprint, and for higher quality printed material up to about a 170
line screen. 150 line screen is often used for good quality printed
material.

Denver Dan

On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 07:47:17 -0600, Bill B. wrote:
> At 1:32 PM -0600 2/12/12, OBrien wrote:
>> On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:49:37 -0500, Denver Dan wrote:
>>> I'll add one more thing about scanning software.
>>>
>>> A great feature to have is called "Descreen."
>>
>> It's useful, but not magic...just a blur operation, so the image
>> might no longer be screened, but it will not be sharp, either.>
>
> That likely depends on the descreen software. I have found Photoshop
> much better at "de-screening" than scanner software, as one has a lot
> more control over blurring and using different blurs on each color
> channel. Sometimes unsharp mask works best, sometimes motion blur
> works best. Also if one is scanning a screened image, starting with a
> scan at maximum dpi and then after blurring decrease image size (in
> pixels) in 10% steps until you have the needed size and dpi if
> printing. One can get very clear images from magazines and even
> newspapers doing this.
>
> Bill B.

5a.

Re: How to add umlauts and emphasis marks in Word 2008?

Posted by: "halboye18" hal.horwitz@comcast.net   halboye18

Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:12 am (PST)




thanks, Daly ... got it

hal
hal.horwitz@comcast.net

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Daly Jessup <jessup@...> wrote:
>
> On Feb 12, 2012, at 12:46 PM, halboye18 wrote:
>
> > I got the option + method to work, but was unable to find Character Viewer ... I am working in Lion ... can you help me get to the Viewer?
> > I cannot find it in the formatting palette.
>
>
> Hal,
> I dont' know anything about a formatting palette. But in Lion go to Apple Menu --> Language & Text --> "Input Sources" tab. don't you see "Kayboard and Character Viewer" at the top of the list?
>
> I do, in Lion.
>
> Daly
>

5b.

Re: How to add umlauts and emphasis marks in Word 2008?

Posted by: "Josephine Bacon" bacon@langservice.com   baconandeggs_2001

Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:15 am (PST)



If you use these kinds of signs a lot, as I do, I would recommend
buying Popchar, a very inexpensive app that sits high up on the left
or right hand side of your screen and gives you all the character set
of any alphabet for which you have the font.
Josephine Bacon
Tamr Translations
197 Kings Cross Road
London WC1X 9DB
Tel: 020 7 278 9490

On 13 Feb 2012, at 16:12, halboye18 wrote:

>
> thanks, Daly ... got it
>
> hal
> hal.horwitz@comcast.net
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Daly Jessup <jessup@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Feb 12, 2012, at 12:46 PM, halboye18 wrote:
> >
> > > I got the option + method to work, but was unable to find
> Character Viewer ... I am working in Lion ... can you help me get to
> the Viewer?
> > > I cannot find it in the formatting palette.
> >
> >
> > Hal,
> > I dont' know anything about a formatting palette. But in Lion go
> to Apple Menu --> Language & Text --> "Input Sources" tab. don't you
> see "Kayboard and Character Viewer" at the top of the list?
> >
> > I do, in Lion.
> >
> > Daly
> >
>
>

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6a.

The Best Address Book App for Mac OS X [Mac App Directory]

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com   boulware0224

Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:44 am (PST)



Someone posted recently asking for alternatives to AB

http://feeds.gawker.com/~r/lifehacker/full/~3/HyWB49jdOGM/the-best-address-book-app-for-mac-os-x

Sent to you by Bill Boulware via Google Reader: The Best Address Book
App for Mac OS X [Mac App Directory] via Lifehacker by Adam Dachis on
2/13/12
Mac OS X has a great built-in address book and a number of useful
third-party alternatives, but out of all the options Cobook is our
favorite. It's a very new app, currently still in beta, but its
intelligent search and social media integration make it very easy to
love. More »



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6b.

Re: The Best Address Book App for Mac OS X [Mac App Directory]

Posted by: "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen@earthlink.net   dougyelmen

Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:10 pm (PST)



i got it up and running, Bill.
i really don't mind AD, and i have a little problem here and there, and sometimes by asking for help,
i can see the forrest and not just the tree (see the forest for the trees?). i thank you for this, and all the
good info you provide the group.
i am going to play with it now.

doug
On Feb 13, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Bill Boulware wrote:

> Someone posted recently asking for alternatives to AB
>
> http://feeds.gawker.com/~r/lifehacker/full/~3/HyWB49jdOGM/the-best-address-book-app-for-mac-os-x
>
> Sent to you by Bill Boulware via Google Reader: The Best Address Book
> App for Mac OS X [Mac App Directory] via Lifehacker by Adam Dachis on
> 2/13/12
> Mac OS X has a great built-in address book and a number of useful
> third-party alternatives, but out of all the options Cobook is our
> favorite. It's a very new app, currently still in beta, but its
> intelligent search and social media integration make it very easy to
> love. More »
>
>
>
> Things you can do from here:
> - Subscribe to Lifehacker using Google Reader
> - Get started using Google Reader to easily keep up with all your
> favorite sites
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsupportcentral.com/policies/>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

7a.

Late SJ Given Grammy Last Night

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com   hflaxman001

Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:14 pm (PST)



"Apple�s head of iTunes, Eddy Cue, was the one tapped to accept the
Grammy Trustees Award given to late Apple co-founder Steve Jobs on
Saturday at the Grammy Special Merit Awards Ceremony. The award
recognizes �individuals who, during their careers in music, have made
significant contributions, other than performance, to the field of
recording.�

The Recording Academy�s National Trustees announced that it would award
Jobs the Grammy in December. Past recipients of the award include Walt
Disney, Thomas Edison and Les Paul."

Washington Post

Full Story:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/itunes-chief-accepts-steve-jobss-grammy/2012/02/13/gIQA1UznAR_story.html

Harry

7b.

Re: Late SJ Given Grammy Last Night

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com   hflaxman001

Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:16 pm (PST)



Here's another, nicer article on the SJ Grammy award:

http://www.grammy.com/news/trustees-award-steve-jobs

Harry

8.1.

Re: Finder alternative

Posted by: "Jim McGarvie" jim@mcgarvie.us   jgarv2002

Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:31 pm (PST)



Thanks for that insight, Otto.

It has been a while since I gave up on Finder (except for where the OS forces its use), but as I recall my primary difficulties were lack of Explorer-like side-by-side windows (for dragging and dropping), and difficulty in navigating the main file/folder list. Just doesn't seem like a nice neat presentation with folders at the top. Should be able to go right to a folder, open it, immediately go to a subfolder, open it, and locate files (I prefer sorted by date).

But it is probably "pilot error" and lack of familiarity.

Jim

On Feb 13, 2012, at 2:56 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:

Jim,

For some years I used Win XP (and briefly Vista) at work and Mac OS X at
home. I found that there was much less difference that most people seem to
think. Could you tell us the main issues you have with Finder?

Otto

On 13 February 2012 02:48, Jim McGarvie <jim@mcgarvie.us> wrote:

> Please re-read my message. I didn't mention "Microsoft Explorer." I said I
> had been using "Macintosh Explorer." It apparently can still be purchased
> on their Web site: www.ragesw.com.
>
> Finder may be efficient but I can't make it work the way I work. Maybe I
> need to change the way I work!
>
> Maybe if I learned more about it I would be happy with it.
>
>

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8.2.

Re: Finder alternative

Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com

Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:35 pm (PST)



On Feb 13, 2012, at 7:31 PM, Jim McGarvie wrote:

> It has been a while since I gave up on Finder (except for where the OS forces its use), but as I recall my primary difficulties were lack of Explorer-like side-by-side windows (for dragging and dropping), and difficulty in navigating the main file/folder list. Just doesn't seem like a nice neat presentation with folders at the top. Should be able to go right to a folder, open it, immediately go to a subfolder, open it, and locate files (I prefer sorted by date).
>
> But it is probably "pilot error" and lack of familiarity.

This is confusing to me. If you chose "Column View" in OS X, this sounds like exactly what you can do. I feel sure I must misunderstand what you are trying to describe.

Da;u
8.3.

Re: Finder alternative

Posted by: "OBrien" bco@hiwaay.net   conorboru

Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:52 pm (PST)



On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:31:18 -0800, Jim McGarvie wrote:
> But it is probably "pilot error" and lack of familiarity.

Well...if I understand what you're saying correctly, you're right: it's "pilot error". Evidently, you just don't know how to use Finder.


. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

O'Brien ––– –... .-. .. . -.
8.4.

Re: Finder alternative

Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com   randybrucesinger

Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:08 am (PST)




On Feb 13, 2012, at 7:31 PM, Jim McGarvie wrote:

> But it is probably "pilot error" and lack of familiarity.

You might benefit from an online tutorial on how to use OS X.
Fortunately, there are some nice free ones.

Mac 101: Mac Essentials
<http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2477>

Finder View Options video
http://is.gd/tKReLV

Tutorial Series: Lion From Scratch:
http://typicalmacuser.com/wordpress/?s=lion+from+scratch

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
___________________________________________

8.5.

Re: Russian keyboard

Posted by: "Josephine Bacon" bacon@langservice.com   baconandeggs_2001

Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:15 am (PST)



Can anyone tell m how to get the Russian keyboard that mimics the
English keyboard? The Mac gives three alternative keyboards but none
that resemble the keyboard I am used to.
Josephine Bacon
Tamr Translations
197 Kings Cross Road
London WC1X 9DB
Tel: 020 7 278 9490

On 14 Feb 2012, at 09:08, Randy B. Singer wrote:

>
> On Feb 13, 2012, at 7:31 PM, Jim McGarvie wrote:
>
> > But it is probably "pilot error" and lack of familiarity.
>
> You might benefit from an online tutorial on how to use OS X.
> Fortunately, there are some nice free ones.
>
> Mac 101: Mac Essentials
> <http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2477>
>
> Finder View Options video
> http://is.gd/tKReLV
>
> Tutorial Series: Lion From Scratch:
> http://typicalmacuser.com/wordpress/?s=lion+from+scratch
>
> ___________________________________________
> Randy B. Singer
> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
>
> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
> http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
> ___________________________________________
>
>

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8.6.

Re: Finder alternative

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:50 am (PST)



Jim,

Others have already replied but I'll add these direct links to Apple's
Explorer-to-Finder articles.
<http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2512>
<http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2514>

I'm sure there are others, but these are the only differences that seemed
obvious to me:-

Explorer sorts folders and files separately, with folders at the top.
Finder does have an option in List View to sort on Kind, but this does not
guarantee that folders will be at the top (it depends what other "kinds"
you have in the folder).

The Finder Zoom (green +) button does not do what the Explorer Maximise
button does; however, once you understand the thinking, Zoom makes a lot of
sense.
<
http://www.macyourself.com/2011/02/06/why-doesnt-mac-os-xs-green-zoom-button-maximize-windows/
>

As for multiple windows, I routinely use command-n to open new windows and
command-w to close them. You might also want to have a look at
Finder > Preferences > General > Always open folders in a new window and
> Spring-loaded folders and windows.

Note that I use OS X 10.5; there might be differences in 10.6 and 10.7.

Otto

On 14 February 2012 03:31, Jim McGarvie <jim@mcgarvie.us> wrote:

> Thanks for that insight, Otto.
>
> It has been a while since I gave up on Finder (except for where the OS
> forces its use), but as I recall my primary difficulties were lack of
> Explorer-like side-by-side windows (for dragging and dropping), and
> difficulty in navigating the main file/folder list. Just doesn't seem like
> a nice neat presentation with folders at the top. Should be able to go
> right to a folder, open it, immediately go to a subfolder, open it, and
> locate files (I prefer sorted by date).
>
> But it is probably "pilot error" and lack of familiarity.
>

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8.7.

Re: Russian keyboard

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:01 am (PST)



Josephine,

What is the keyboard you are used to?

Otto

On 14 February 2012 09:15, Josephine Bacon <bacon@langservice.com> wrote:

> Can anyone tell m how to get the Russian keyboard that mimics the
> English keyboard? The Mac gives three alternative keyboards but none
> that resemble the keyboard I am used to.
>

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