1/18/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 8689

Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)

1a.
Re: OT: Chrome Home Page Issue From: Harry Flaxman
2.
ID theft From: Blaine Gordon
3a.
Re: Missing folder in application support From: Jeannie
3b.
Re: Missing folder in application support From: Jim Saklad
3c.
Re: Missing folder in application support From: Denver Dan
4a.
Re: Reinstalling Mail From: Rob Frankel
5a.
mac store From: Jeannie
5b.
Re: mac store From: Tim O'Donoghue
5c.
Re: mac store From: Jeannie
6a.
Re: Apple-font diacritics From: Ian Gillis
6b.
Re: Apple-font diacritics From: Otto Nikolaus
6c.
Re: Apple-font diacritics From: Larson
6d.
Re: Apple-font diacritics From: Lyle Syverson
6e.
Re: Apple-font diacritics From: Barry Austern
6f.
Re: Apple-font diacritics From: Island Center for the Arts
6g.
Re: Apple-font diacritics From: Otto Nikolaus
7a.
Re: three-double-zero From: Oneal Neumann
7b.
Re: three-double-zero From: Arjun Singhal
8a.
Re: redoing fonts ??? From: Oneal Neumann
8b.
Re: redoing fonts ??? From: John Engberg
9.
Re: huge backup time From: Oneal Neumann
10.
Boy with app helps police catch burglary suspect within minutes | Se From: Tim O'Donoghue
11a.
Re: Looking for an alternative to Address Book and iCal From: Michael Grant
12.1.
Re: Apple OS X Lion Re-install From: Arjun Singhal
12.2.
Re: Apple OS X Lion Re-install From: Harry Flaxman

Messages

1a.

Re: OT: Chrome Home Page Issue

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:37 am (PST)



On Jan 16, 2012, at 10:46 AM, Donna Ells wrote:

> Thanks, Tim. I did notice if the app is QUIT, then it starts up with the
> desired page. What I don't understand is why isn't this same frustrating
> page appearing on the other iMac? I don't want this page as it is limiting,
> and I have to manually choose the home page.
>
> Probably I'm missing the boat somewhere else, too, because I cannot find the
> LOG OUT/ SIGN OUT option on Chrome unless I physically QUIT the app and
> bring up the home page, or manually choose HOME.
>
> Is there a way of having Chrome open to the desired page (my Home Page)
> every time without having to quit it after each use?
>
> I really do appreciate your assistance. It seems so stupid that I can't fix
> this on the 27" iMac, and yet, the 21" iMac operates Chrome exactly has
> desired.
> Donna

Provided you have not turned on sync within Chrome using the same account, the startup screens may be set differently. Also, Google has a facility within Chrome to start up with a picture as the background of the home screen. There is usually a link at the lower left of the screen with the graphic to change this.

Harry

Harry Flaxman
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2.

ID theft

Posted by: "Blaine Gordon" blainegordon@ymail.com   blainegordon@ymail.com

Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:00 am (PST)



I am one of the victims of ID theft. It was on the news that tablets and phones were the easiest for hackers to hack. My stolen debit card was only used to make purchases through the Apple store. I emailed billing and the charges where removed. My bank was also notified and they cancelled my debit card and reissued a new one. The interesting thing is that Apple suggested that I not use a credit or debit card but instead buy myself gift cards to handle my purchases. They are readily available at most grocery stores and Walmart. I have been doing this for a while and haven't had any unexpected large purchases anywhere. It is likely that 99.percent of users on Apple are safe but for the 1 percent like me, gift cards.are a good solution.
Blaine Gordon

Sent from my iPad
3a.

Re: Missing folder in application support

Posted by: "Jeannie" nikonjeannie@gmail.com   chloe898

Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:19 am (PST)



That wasn't the problem. They are visable in the CS5 filters menu, but not
in the library..application support.

Jeannie

On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Jurgen Richter <yahoo-1@sympatico.ca>wrote:

> This from the Topaz Labs Knowledge Base:
>
> "I can't find Topaz plug-ins in the Photoshop Filters menu."
>
> Try this:
> For both Windows and Mac, download and run the appropriate installers.
> If you still can't see the filter after you quit and restart Photoshop,
> try the following:
>
> For Mac :
> Go to HD -> Library -> Application Support -> Topaz Labs -> Adjust ->
> Plugins
> Copy and paste the Topaz_adjust.plugin file to your Photoshop Plug-Ins
> folder. This is usually located in Applications -> Adobe Photoshop CS3
> -> Plug-Ins. Delete the TopazAdjust shortcut already in that folder, if
> there is one. Restart Photoshop and you'll see it in the Filters menu.
>
> For Windows:
> Go to C:\Programs Files -> Topaz Labs -> Topaz Adjust -> Plugins and
> copy and paste the tladjust.8bf file into your Photoshop Plug-Ins
> folder. This is usually located in C:\Program Files -> Adobe -> Adobe
> Photoshop CS3 -> Plug-Ins. Delete the TopazAdjust shortcut already in
> that folder, if there is one. Restart Photoshop and you'll see it in the
> Filters menu.
>
> The example given is with Topaz Adjust. If it's a problem with Topaz
> Simplify or Topaz DeNoise, just replace "Adjust" with the appropriate
> product name.
>
> hth
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3b.

Re: Missing folder in application support

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:15 am (PST)



>> This from the Topaz Labs Knowledge Base:
>>
>> "I can't find Topaz plug-ins in the Photoshop Filters menu."
>>
>> Try this:
>> Go to HD -> Library -> Application Support -> Topaz Labs -> Adjust -> Plugins
>> Copy and paste the Topaz_adjust.plugin file to your Photoshop Plug-Ins folder. This is usually located in Applications -> Adobe Photoshop CS3 -> Plug-Ins.
>

> That wasn't the problem. They are visable in the CS5 filters menu, but not in the library..application support.
> Jeannie

Jeannie -

Originally you stated that you were unable to locate the Library folder.

The *ONLY* Library folder on the Mac that is not normally visible under Lion is the user's Library.

However, that is NOT the Library that is supposed to have the Topaz plugins folder in it. It (the Topaz folder) is supposed to be located in the top-level (normally visible) Library folder.

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3c.

Re: Missing folder in application support

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:22 pm (PST)



Howdy.

There are two Application Support folders.

You may find Adobe things in one or the other.

Library/Application Support/Adobe

Users/your account/Library/Application Support/Adobe

If you are running, Apple made the Users/your account/Library folder
invisible.

It's easy to make it visible. You can do so by selecting the Finder's
Go menu. If you press the Option key your Users/xxx/Library folder
will become visible. (It can also be put in the Sidebar where it will
stay visible.)

Denver dan

On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 08:18:51 -0700, Jeannie wrote:
> That wasn't the problem. They are visable in the CS5 filters menu, but not
> in the library..application support.
>
> Jeannie

4a.

Re: Reinstalling Mail

Posted by: "Rob Frankel" rob@robfrankel.com   robfrankeldotcom

Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:38 am (PST)



Thanks Jim, but Pacifist wasn't able to extract (or even find) Mail
in either the Install Disks or the Snow Leopard Disk.

At 10:34 PM -0500 1/16/12, Jim Saklad wrote thusly:
> > So here's the deal. I suspect that my MBP running 10.6.8 has a
>problem with Mail. I'd like to re-install just Mail, nothing else.
>>
>> Question:
>>
>> What are the steps to doing this intelligently? And by that, I
>>mean NOT re-installing the entire System.
>>
>> 1. Is there a way to cleanly remove Mail and its components?
>> 2. Is there a way to install Mail cleanly?
>
>
>Try this:
>1. Download Pacifist (<http://www.charlessoft.com/>)
>2. Locate your Snow Leopard disk -- whether one purchased for an
>upgrade from Leopard or packaged with the machine as a restore disk.
>3. While booted as usual from your hard drive, insert the SL disk.
>4. Open Pacifist, and navigate to the relevant installer .pkg file
>5. Within Pacifist, you should be able to navigate the "tree" and
>find the "branch" with Mail
>6. Unpack just Mail
>
>You should be able to delete Mail from ./Applications, although you
>*will* need an administrator password to do so.
>
>I'm not sure what to tell you about removing stuff in ~/Library/Mail

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5a.

mac store

Posted by: "Jeannie" nikonjeannie@gmail.com   chloe898

Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:44 am (PST)



If I were to buy an app in the mac store, would I be able to download it
again free if I had to install another Hard drive, or if I bought a new
mac?I know that is so in the itunes store.

Jeannie

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5b.

Re: mac store

Posted by: "Tim O'Donoghue" tjod@drizzle.net   timodonoghue

Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:57 am (PST)



Yes.

On Jan 17, 2012, at 7:44 AM, Jeannie wrote:

> If I were to buy an app in the mac store, would I be able to download it
> again free if I had to install another Hard drive, or if I bought a new
> mac?I know that is so in the itunes store.
>
> Jeannie
>
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5c.

Re: mac store

Posted by: "Jeannie" nikonjeannie@gmail.com   chloe898

Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:20 am (PST)



Thanks. The reason I asked is that i want to buy a game i had for years on
the pc. it costs half the price at the app store than it does on their web
site.
Jeannie

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Tim O'Donoghue <tjod@drizzle.net> wrote:

> Yes.
>
>
> On Jan 17, 2012, at 7:44 AM, Jeannie wrote:
>
> > If I were to buy an app in the mac store, would I be able to download it
> > again free if I had to install another Hard drive, or if I bought a new
> > mac?I know that is so in the itunes store.
> >
> > Jeannie
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6a.

Re: Apple-font diacritics

Posted by: "Ian Gillis" tessel.bas@gmail.com   ianjgillis

Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:41 am (PST)



On 16 January 2012 12:34, Larson <pix@maksimo.de> wrote:
> Now, assuming you see the text on your computer as I see it on my MacBook Pro with OS 10.6.8, the ligature "œ" has been replaced by a hook and the Euro sign € has been replaced by a bullet (•)
>
> What seems to have happened here is that you are using Western (Windows Latin 1) as text encoding. In Mail I went to Message > Text Encoding and changed the activated option from Automatic to Western (Windows Latin 1). You are NOT using the same encoding as Ian Gillis.
>
>
> My question is now: WHY ARE YOU NOT USING Unicode?

Hi Anna,
Interesting stuff from you on this very confusing subject - thank you.

I'd just like to say that Oneal _was_ using UTF-8 in his earlier mails
(I checked), but not in the one from which you quote my quoted
sentence. However on my display (Mac OS 10.6.8/Firefox 9.0.1 set to
UTF-8) his quote of my text appeared OK. However your view and your
quote of my text on his mail was not.
I do not understand that!

regards,
Ian

6b.

Re: Apple-font diacritics

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:25 pm (PST)



On 17 January 2012 17:41, Ian Gillis <tessel.bas@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Hi Anna,
> Interesting stuff from you on this very confusing subject - thank you.
>
> I'd just like to say that Oneal _was_ using UTF-8 in his earlier mails
> (I checked), but not in the one from which you quote my quoted
> sentence. However on my display (Mac OS 10.6.8/Firefox 9.0.1 set to
> UTF-8) his quote of my text appeared OK. However your view and your
> quote of my text on his mail was not.
> I do not understand that!
>
> regards,
> Ian
>

This seems to be a never-ending issue. A few months ago we tried to resolve
weird stuff happening when someone used ellipses (...) and I don't think we
found a reliable solution.

Otto

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6c.

Re: Apple-font diacritics

Posted by: "Larson" pix@maksimo.de   yovard@ymail.com

Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:59 pm (PST)




On 17.01.2012, at 21:24, Otto Nikolaus wrote:

>
> A few months ago we tried to resolve
> weird stuff happening when someone used ellipses (...) and I don't think we
> found a reliable solution.

Otto,

I copied your passage and pasted it into a word processor so I could examine what you seem to have put inside the brackets. Your ellipse appears to be three dots and not an ellipse which would have appeared had you pressed Option + ";" on the British or the U.S. extended keyboard.

Could you be so kind and type again a genuine ellipse so that we can test if it transmits normal? I remember it used to turn up as Σ (= Greek sigma) by some Lion users (or was it Snow Leopard? I can't remember anymore.)

Anyway, I'll do the same test now. Here is an ellipse: … and here are three dots: ...

If somebody sees other characters then please tell us in what browser + version that happens and in what OS.

Otto, you are a Brit, aren't you? What kind of keyboard layout do you use? I just took a look at the British one and I see only disadvantage compared to the U.S. Extended. The British keyboard layout on the Mac doesn't even have thorn and eth so there is no way to write Old English with the British keyboard layout.

Anna
OS X 10.6.8
MacBook Pro 17''

6d.

Re: Apple-font diacritics

Posted by: "Lyle Syverson" lutefisk4me2@sbcglobal.net   lyle837

Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:14 pm (PST)



On Jan 17, 2012, at 6:58 PM, Larson wrote:

> On 17.01.2012, at 21:24, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
>
>> A few months ago we tried to resolve
>> weird stuff happening when someone used ellipses (...) and I don't think we
>> found a reliable solution.
>
> Otto,
>
> I copied your passage and pasted it into a word processor so I could examine what you seem to have put inside the brackets. Your ellipse appears to be three dots and not an ellipse which would have appeared had you pressed Option + ";" on the British or the U.S. extended keyboard.
>
> Could you be so kind and type again a genuine ellipse so that we can test if it transmits normal? I remember it used to turn up as Σ (= Greek sigma) by some Lion users (or was it Snow Leopard? I can't remember anymore.)
>
> Anyway, I'll do the same test now. Here is an ellipse: … and here are three dots: ...
>
> If somebody sees other characters then please tell us in what browser + version that happens and in what OS.
>
Mac OS X 10.6.8
Mail version 4.5

In your test I see three dots for the ellipse an three dots for the three dots.

Lyle

6e.

Re: Apple-font diacritics

Posted by: "Barry Austern" barryaus@fuse.net   barryaus

Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:28 pm (PST)



At 1:58 AM +0100 1/18/12, Larson wrote:

>Otto, you are a Brit, aren't you? What kind of keyboard layout do
>you use? I just took a look at the British one and I see only
>disadvantage compared to the U.S. Extended. The British keyboard
>layout on the Mac doesn't even have thorn and eth so there is no way
>to write Old English with the British keyboard layout.

I'm American, and use a US keyboard. Where are the thorn and eth keys
on it? I looked at both PopChar and Keyboard Viewer to no avail, at
least not with this font.
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net

6f.

Re: Apple-font diacritics

Posted by: "Island Center for the Arts" finearts@otenet.gr   monkeymannmcghee

Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:45 am (PST)



Anna,
I'm seeing them as you intended. I use Mail 4.5 and 10.6.8.
Tom

On Jan 18, 2012, at 2:58 AM, Larson wrote:

>
> On 17.01.2012, at 21:24, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
>
>>
>> A few months ago we tried to resolve
>> weird stuff happening when someone used ellipses (...) and I don't think we
>> found a reliable solution.
>
>
> Otto,
>
> I copied your passage and pasted it into a word processor so I could examine what you seem to have put inside the brackets. Your ellipse appears to be three dots and not an ellipse which would have appeared had you pressed Option + ";" on the British or the U.S. extended keyboard.
>
> Could you be so kind and type again a genuine ellipse so that we can test if it transmits normal? I remember it used to turn up as Σ (= Greek sigma) by some Lion users (or was it Snow Leopard? I can't remember anymore.)
>
> Anyway, I'll do the same test now. Here is an ellipse: … and here are three dots: ...
>
> If somebody sees other characters then please tell us in what browser + version that happens and in what OS.
>
> Otto, you are a Brit, aren't you? What kind of keyboard layout do you use? I just took a look at the British one and I see only disadvantage compared to the U.S. Extended. The British keyboard layout on the Mac doesn't even have thorn and eth so there is no way to write Old English with the British keyboard layout.
>
>
> Anna
> OS X 10.6.8
> MacBook Pro 17''
>
>
>
>
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6g.

Re: Apple-font diacritics

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:59 am (PST)



On 18 January 2012 00:58, Larson <pix@maksimo.de> wrote:

>
> Otto,
>
> I copied your passage and pasted it into a word processor so I could
> examine what you seem to have put inside the brackets. Your ellipse appears
> to be three dots and not an ellipse which would have appeared had you
> pressed Option + ";" on the British or the U.S. extended keyboard.
>
> Could you be so kind and type again a genuine ellipse so that we can test
> if it transmits normal? I remember it used to turn up as � (= Greek sigma)
> by some Lion users (or was it Snow Leopard? I can't remember anymore.)
>
> Anyway, I'll do the same test now. Here is an ellipse: ... and here are
> three dots: ...
>
> If somebody sees other characters then please tell us in what browser +
> version that happens and in what OS.
>
> Otto, you are a Brit, aren't you? What kind of keyboard layout do you use?
> I just took a look at the British one and I see only disadvantage compared
> to the U.S. Extended. The British keyboard layout on the Mac doesn't even
> have thorn and eth so there is no way to write Old English with the British
> keyboard layout.
>

Yes, I'm a Brit and I have a UK keyboard with UK mapping (but I often play
with others). I typed it as 3 dots only because I couldn't remember the key
combo. What are "thorn" and "eth"? Anyway, here's 3 dots followed by an
ellipsis (although surely this *must* have been typed as 3 dots on an
actual typewriter?).
... ...

I'll see if I can find the thread from last year. I remember the sigma but
it wasn't the whole story.

Otto

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7a.

Re: three-double-zero

Posted by: "Oneal Neumann" wardell.h.s@gmail.com   newalander

Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:20 pm (PST)




According to my 'iStat nano' widget, my battery has hit 300 'cycles'. One of the other deets, also according to iStat, my battery 'health' is 85%. My ProBook is now 2 years old and does not have an extended warranty.

How much more use/life can I expect from my battery? Thanx. Oneal

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7b.

Re: three-double-zero

Posted by: "Arjun Singhal" arjunsinghal@yahoo.com   arjunsinghal

Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:41 pm (PST)



Under good maintenance, the life of a macbook pro battery is about 1000 full charge-discharge cycles. For ordinary laptops it is said to be about 300 cycles

Regards,
Arjun
blowtrumpet.com

Sent from my iPad

On 17-Jan-2012, at 23:22, Oneal Neumann <wardell.h.s@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> According to my 'iStat nano' widget, my battery has hit 300 'cycles'. One of the other deets, also according to iStat, my battery 'health' is 85%. My ProBook is now 2 years old and does not have an extended warranty.
>
> How much more use/life can I expect from my battery? Thanx. Oneal
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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8a.

Re: redoing fonts ???

Posted by: "Oneal Neumann" wardell.h.s@gmail.com   newalander

Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:20 pm (PST)




A favored font is Chalkduster, which only has (so far) a regular version.

Is there any way to produce bold? Thanx. Oneal

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8b.

Re: redoing fonts ???

Posted by: "John Engberg" mrbyte@earthlink.net   mrbyte

Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:43 pm (PST)




On Jan 17, 2012, at 6:54 PM, Oneal Neumann wrote:

>
> A favored font is Chalkduster, which only has (so far) a regular version.
>
> Is there any way to produce bold? Thanx. Oneal
>

You obviously have nothing to do, and all day to do it.

Why would you want to ruin Chalkduster (which is one of my all time favorite fonts) by making it bold? Chalkduster doesn't have a bold, it only comes in regular only, if you look at it in FontBook. I't is basically bold to begin with.

Take a course in typography and figure out how to create it yourself, if you want to make it heavier.

John Engberg

9.

Re: huge backup time

Posted by: "Oneal Neumann" wardell.h.s@gmail.com   newalander

Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:20 pm (PST)




I was playing around �nothing deleterious presumably� with one of my Mail folders. All I did was change from a Read designation to an Unread designation. According to my Mail setup parameters, that action produces a number beside my Mail folder�s name that corresponds to the number of emails that have been newly marked as 'unread'.

Upon opening a few 'unread' emails, the emails materialized, however they were all blank. I clicked Rebuild which did not produce any reaction. Normally a spinning-gear icon shows.

I did a Safe Boot and checked my Mail folder. All emails were blank there. Returning to the usual reg-op mode, I again clicked folder Rebuild, which this time showed the spinning-gear icon. All formerly blanked emails were returned to my Mail folder in their correct state.

Here�s my problem: My SuperDuper! backup took a shade under two hours to complete, which is nearly as long as an initial backup takes. Normal SD! backups usually take a dozen minutes. My Time Machine backup also took a hugely long time after my Mail screwup.

What took so long? Thanx. Oneal

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10.

Boy with app helps police catch burglary suspect within minutes | Se

Posted by: "Tim O'Donoghue" tjod@drizzle.net   timodonoghue

Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:40 pm (PST)

11a.

Re: Looking for an alternative to Address Book and iCal

Posted by: "Michael Grant" mgrant@gmail.com   maclingua

Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:00 pm (PST)



So, does anyone have any experience with the latest version of SOHO
Organizer? (I'm aware that there were lots of problems with earlier
versions.)

Michael

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12.1.

Re: Apple OS X Lion Re-install

Posted by: "Arjun Singhal" arjunsinghal@yahoo.com   arjunsinghal

Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:13 am (PST)



Hi Randy, Harry and not the least, all those who've been patiently watching the progress out here

I really apologize for the trouble that I caused the entire group - to the point that my posts were even called "a troll". I requested folks to suspend the discussion until I found a little time to get the job done, since I was confused in how to sort this out. I'll say that I have a very meagre understanding of the terminal commands in OS X. And thus it took me a little while to figure this out.

That said, it turns out, that not only do the later 2011 Macbook Pro's ship without thumb drives, the Recovery Partition is doubly hidden. In one generation of the OS X Lion builds, only the BaseSystem.dmg file is hidden (I won't say Apple hid it, because some folks would find it personally pointing at them), and in the later builds (which fortunately or unfortunately I am in possession of), even the Recovery HD partition is hidden.

So, if you follow the discussion that Harry pointed me to, you'll end up executing the following two commands in Finder.

$ diskutil list
$ diskutil mount /dev/disk0s3

This gets one to the point of mounting the Recovery HD Volume in Finder, but one is not able to find the BaseSystem.dmg file mentioned in the Apple Discussions Forum. I spent an hour with the Apple engineer over Phone Support, but they did not reveal to me that the file is hidden. They continued to mention that OS X Lion is available as a download using the recovery partition method, using Command + R to fire it up while booting and recommended that one must wait for the download to complete. Add to it, the thumb drives are not available in India yet.

Anyway, I did a little research at my end, and we need to execute one more command to unhide the BaseSystem.dmg file, for it to show up in the Finder. This is

$ sudo chflags nohidden /Volumes/Recovery\ HD/com.apple.recovery.boot/BaseSystem.dmg

You're asked for the administrator password to the system, and voila, you're done unhiding the file you need. Post that, go ahead and put it up in Disk Utilities, and write it to a memory card, a flash drive or burn it to the disk, just the way you would with the InstallESD.dmg file.

At the end of it, I'll thank everyone once again for their invaluable support, and also those who bring priceless value to the group, and some who go beyond that priceless value as well.

Regards,
Arjun

On 16-Jan-2012, at 6:42 PM, Arjun Singhal wrote:

> iLife was pre-installed on the Mac when I received it. There were no DVDs that shipped with these Macs
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>> On Jan 16, 2012, at 7:57 AM, Arjun Singhal wrote:
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>>> That's what the thumb drive also does. I used a 4.3 Gigabyte partition on the Thumb Drive.
>>> Another question, what about the iLife applications - will they redownload from the App Store (the ones that shipped with the Mac) or will they go to the Card as well? I recollect a recent post about Garageband and I am looking forward to using Garageband very soon, would like to have it included in the bundle (hopefully without downloading it - hehe)
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>> It depends upon how you acquired iLife to start with. I had the DVD as it came with my newest iMac. Anything you purchased from the Mac app store will be redownloaded. You may have to initiate these downloads, but they will automatically be available.
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>> You can only get so much in 4gb. To get the utilities and the operating system seems pretty adequate to me.
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>> Not to say one couldn't use a larger SD card, run the boot disk maker utility, then copy the iLife installers over to the SD card afterward.
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Re: Apple OS X Lion Re-install

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:18 am (PST)



On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:13 AM, Arjun Singhal wrote:

> I really apologize for the trouble that I caused the entire group - to the point that my posts were even called "a troll". I requested folks to suspend the discussion until I found a little time to get the job done, since I was confused in how to sort this out. I'll say that I have a very meagre understanding of the terminal commands in OS X. And thus it took me a little while to figure this out.

Arjun,

I'm glad that you finally got things sorted out. I wasn't aware that the file was hidden in your particular instance.

Yes, the command you used to reveal the file is a handy one. I used the same command sequence to permanently 'unhide' my library directories.

I can understand your frustration at the situation. No biggie, that's what this group is here for.

Harry

Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@comcast.net

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