1/23/2012

[the_ipod_group] Digest Number 1206

Messages In This Digest (7 Messages)

1a.
Re: Touch Questions From: bj
1b.
Re: Touch Questions From: Robert C
1c.
Re: Touch Questions From: pabitra saha
1d.
Re: Touch Questions From: Louise Bremner
1e.
Re: Touch Questions From: Carlee Marrer-Tising
1f.
Re: Touch Questions From: Robert C
2a.
Re: iOS From: Neal Jacob

Messages

1a.

Re: Touch Questions

Posted by: "bj" bjones44@verizon.net   jblair44

Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:53 am (PST)



According to an actual user, audio-captcha isn't always all that easy to
use. I don't know how they're constructed, but maybe some sites do it better
than others; or perhaps the construction method itself is faulty for some
uses. I don't know.

I'll have to try it sometime. Maybe sometime when the visible-version is
hard to read -- I guess they're trying to trick the robot-readers too but
some of the letters/numbers are fuzzy or ambiguous.
bj

-----Original Message-----
From: pabitra saha
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 5:53 AM
To: the_ipod_group@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [the_ipod_group] Touch Questions

Captchas have an audio version too, for which you can select.

1b.

Re: Touch Questions

Posted by: "Robert C" gone.to.dawgs@gmail.com   prince_rogue2001

Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:31 pm (PST)



I am guessing that a site or entity buys a certain captcha program that
will create the bloody things on the fly. There are probably hundreds of
them for I see different styles but each site does not change the
styles. Some are pretty easy but some are dastardly difficult, the ones
that use color shading in both background and foreground. Remember the
tests for color blindness? LOL

The sole purpose of these things are to drive the blind mad. The
secondary purpose is to thwart the robots. ;)

I dont bother with the audio versions for I am certain that will not
work for me.

Quote of the nanosecond...
Oxymoron: Adult children
Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn
E-mail-
Gone.to.Dawgs@gmail.com
Home Page-
http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/

On 1/22/2012 9:42 AM, bj wrote:
> According to an actual user, audio-captcha isn't always all that easy to
> use. I don't know how they're constructed, but maybe some sites do it
> better
> than others; or perhaps the construction method itself is faulty for some
> uses. I don't know.
>
> I'll have to try it sometime. Maybe sometime when the visible-version is
> hard to read -- I guess they're trying to trick the robot-readers too but
> some of the letters/numbers are fuzzy or ambiguous.
> bj
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pabitra saha
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 5:53 AM
> To: the_ipod_group@yahoogroups.com <mailto:the_ipod_group%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [the_ipod_group] Touch Questions
>
> Captchas have an audio version too, for which you can select.
>
>

1c.

Re: Touch Questions

Posted by: "pabitra saha" pksaha000@yahoo.co.uk   pksaha000

Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:31 pm (PST)



I have tried both.
I agree audio captcha is tougher, as far as I am concerned.
This may not be necessarily true for all, especially sight challenged amongst us;
 
pks


________________________________
From: bj <bjones44@verizon.net>
To: the_ipod_group@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 22 January 2012, 18:42
Subject: Re: [the_ipod_group] Touch Questions


 

According to an actual user, audio-captcha isn't always all that easy to
use. I don't know how they're constructed, but maybe some sites do it better
than others; or perhaps the construction method itself is faulty for some
uses. I don't know.

I'll have to try it sometime. Maybe sometime when the visible-version is
hard to read -- I guess they're trying to trick the robot-readers too but
some of the letters/numbers are fuzzy or ambiguous.
bj

-----Original Message-----
From: pabitra saha
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 5:53 AM
To: the_ipod_group@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [the_ipod_group] Touch Questions

Captchas have an audio version too, for which you can select.

1d.

Re: Touch Questions

Posted by: "Louise Bremner" louise_bremner@mac.com   dame_zumari

Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:43 pm (PST)




On 22 Jan 2012, at 18:16, Robert C wrote:

> I am guessing that a site or entity buys a certain captcha program that
> will create the bloody things on the fly. There are probably hundreds of
> them for I see different styles but each site does not change the
> styles. Some are pretty easy but some are dastardly difficult, the ones
> that use color shading in both background and foreground. Remember the
> tests for color blindness? LOL
>
> The sole purpose of these things are to drive the blind mad.

Believe me---they are dreadful enough for even someone with reasonably good sight. Ok, so I wear glasses (astigmatism), but many of those captchas are completely obscure to me. The audio versions are if anything even worse....

> The
> secondary purpose is to thwart the robots. ;)
>
> I dont bother with the audio versions for I am certain that will not
> work for me.
>
> Quote of the nanosecond...
> Oxymoron: Adult children
> Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn
> E-mail-
> Gone.to.Dawgs@gmail.com
> Home Page-
> http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/
>
> On 1/22/2012 9:42 AM, bj wrote:
>> According to an actual user, audio-captcha isn't always all that easy to
>> use. I don't know how they're constructed, but maybe some sites do it
>> better
>> than others; or perhaps the construction method itself is faulty for some
>> uses. I don't know.
>>
>> I'll have to try it sometime. Maybe sometime when the visible-version is
>> hard to read -- I guess they're trying to trick the robot-readers too but
>> some of the letters/numbers are fuzzy or ambiguous.
>> bj
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pabitra saha
>> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 5:53 AM
>> To: the_ipod_group@yahoogroups.com <mailto:the_ipod_group%40yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: [the_ipod_group] Touch Questions
>>
>> Captchas have an audio version too, for which you can select.
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

1e.

Re: Touch Questions

Posted by: "Carlee Marrer-Tising" c-marrer-tising@bluewin.ch   djote3

Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:43 pm (PST)



Robert,
I think you mentioned that you were joining a Yahoo group for blind and
vision-impaired iPad and iPhone users. Could you please tell me the exact
name of this group so I could tell a vision-impaired friend about it. He
has an iPhone and is thinking about getting an iPad.

Thanks,

Carlee




-------Original Message-------

From: Robert C
Date: 22.01.2012 21:31:08
To: the_ipod_group@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [the_ipod_group] Touch Questions

I am guessing that a site or entity buys a certain captcha program that
will create the bloody things on the fly. There are probably hundreds of
them for I see different styles but each site does not change the
styles. Some are pretty easy but some are dastardly difficult, the ones
that use color shading in both background and foreground. Remember the
tests for color blindness? LOL

The sole purpose of these things are to drive the blind mad. The
secondary purpose is to thwart the robots. ;)

I dont bother with the audio versions for I am certain that will not
work for me.

Quote of the nanosecond...
Oxymoron: Adult children
Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn
E-mail-
Gone.to.Dawgs@gmail.com
Home Page-
http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/

On 1/22/2012 9:42 AM, bj wrote:
> According to an actual user, audio-captcha isn't always all that easy to
> use. I don't know how they're constructed, but maybe some sites do it
> better
> than others; or perhaps the construction method itself is faulty for some
> uses. I don't know.
>
> I'll have to try it sometime. Maybe sometime when the visible-version is
> hard to read -- I guess they're trying to trick the robot-readers too but
> some of the letters/numbers are fuzzy or ambiguous.
> bj
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pabitra saha
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 5:53 AM
> To: the_ipod_group@yahoogroups.com <mailto:the_ipod_group%40yahoogroups
com>
> Subject: Re: [the_ipod_group] Touch Questions
>
> Captchas have an audio version too, for which you can select.
>
>


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Yahoo! Groups Links



1f.

Re: Touch Questions

Posted by: "Robert C" gone.to.dawgs@gmail.com   prince_rogue2001

Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:34 pm (PST)



Sure. blindapples. Yes, neat name. Fairly small group but active...and
helpful.

Quote of the nanosecond...
Don�t Drink and Drive. You�ll Only Spill It.
Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn
E-mail-
Gone.to.Dawgs@gmail.com
Home Page-
http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/

On 1/22/2012 1:01 PM, Carlee Marrer-Tising wrote:
> Robert,
> I think you mentioned that you were joining a Yahoo group for blind and
> vision-impaired iPad and iPhone users. Could you please tell me the
> exact name of this group so I could tell a vision-impaired friend about
> it. He has an iPhone and is thinking about getting an iPad.
> Thanks,
> Carlee
> /-------Original Message-------/
> /*From:*/ Robert C <mailto:gone.to.dawgs@gmail.com>
> /*Date:*/ 22.01.2012 21:31:08
> /*To:*/ the_ipod_group@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:the_ipod_group@yahoogroups.com>
> /*Subject:*/ Re: [the_ipod_group] Touch Questions
> I am guessing that a site or entity buys a certain captcha program that
> will create the bloody things on the fly. There are probably hundreds of
> them for I see different styles but each site does not change the
> styles. Some are pretty easy but some are dastardly difficult, the ones
> that use color shading in both background and foreground. Remember the
> tests for color blindness? LOL
> The sole purpose of these things are to drive the blind mad. The
> secondary purpose is to thwart the robots. ;)
> I dont bother with the audio versions for I am certain that will not
> work for me.
> Quote of the nanosecond...
> Oxymoron: Adult children
> Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn
> E-mail-
> Gone.to.Dawgs@gmail.com <mailto:Gone.to.Dawgs@gmail.com>
> Home Page-
> http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/
> On 1/22/2012 9:42 AM, bj wrote:
> > According to an actual user, audio-captcha isn't always all that easy to
> > use. I don't know how they're constructed, but maybe some sites do it
> > better
> > than others; or perhaps the construction method itself is faulty for some
> > uses. I don't know.
> >
> > I'll have to try it sometime. Maybe sometime when the visible-version is
> > hard to read -- I guess they're trying to trick the robot-readers too but
> > some of the letters/numbers are fuzzy or ambiguous.
> > bj
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pabitra saha
> > Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 5:53 AM
> > To: the_ipod_group@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:the_ipod_group@yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:the_ipod_group%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [the_ipod_group] Touch Questions
> >
> > Captchas have an audio version too, for which you can select.
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------
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>
>

2a.

Re: iOS

Posted by: "Neal Jacob" nhjacob@gmail.com   on_the_rhode

Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:30 pm (PST)



Tyler:

Apple is very tight lipped. Other than leaving iPhone prototypes in bars,
they don't say anything about products/software development until the
appointed time.

A bunch of Apple product owners in a discussion forum know just as much as
you do.

-Neal

On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Tyler <nysacra@ymail.com> wrote:

> I try all of that. I got notta.
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