1/21/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 8697

Messages In This Digest (20 Messages)

1.1.
Re: Physical system discs From: Jim Saklad
1.2.
Re: Physical system discs From: Arjun Singhal
1.3.
Re: Physical system discs From: ed-reiff
1.4.
Re: Physical system discs From: N.A. Nada
2a.
App uninstall ? From: myhandle2001
2b.
Re: App uninstall ? From: Barry Austern
2c.
Re: App uninstall ? From: John Engberg
2d.
Re: App uninstall ? From: Jim Saklad
2e.
Re: App uninstall ? From: Randy B. Singer
2f.
Re: App uninstall ? From: Harry Flaxman
3a.
Re: Replace Ventura Publisher From: Jurgen Richter
3b.
Re: Replace Ventura Publisher From: Randy B. Singer
3c.
Re: Replace Ventura Publisher From: Josephine Bacon
4a.
Mail 5.1 Attached vs Inline? From: Harry Flaxman
4b.
Re: Mail 5.1 Attached vs Inline? From: Oneal Neumann
4c.
Re: Mail 5.1 Attached vs Inline? From: Harry Flaxman
4d.
Re: Mail 5.1 Attached vs Inline? From: Island Center for the Arts
5.
Fwd: Apple stores may be coming to India | MacTech From: Tim O'Donoghue
6.1.
Re: Looking for an alternative to Address Book and iCal From: N.A. Nada
7a.
Re: No gift cards From: gicleeman

Messages

1.1.

Re: Physical system discs

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:44 am (PST)



>>> I do notice that if I've recovered by just using SuperDuper to erase and copy back from the clone, the original recovery partition seems to 'go away'.
>>> Harry
>>
>> How do you determine that it's gone?
>> It doesn't happen here, unless I actively re-partition the drive that has the Recovery Partition.
>
> I did enable the developer menu in Disk Utility, and I didn't see it at that point. Nothing would recognize that it was still there, software wise.

I presume you mean the "Debug" menu.
And you have clicked on "List All Disks" ?

> I'm not doubting you, I just would not know how to 're-hook' the partition to the appropriate software tools involved.
> Harry

Captain Hook need not apply.
It's just a separate partition, with certain specific files in it. If they weren't specifically erased or partitioned away, they should still be there.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

1.2.

Re: Physical system discs

Posted by: "Arjun Singhal" arjunsinghal@yahoo.com   arjunsinghal

Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:04 am (PST)



you can order it, but they won't deliver it

On 20-Jan-2012, at 11:33 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:

> > If your aim is to get Lion in the first place, why just get a USB from Apple to start with.
> > Either from a local Apple store
>
> Did you miss the datum that the Indian subcontinent lacks Apple Stores?
>
> > or order one online from the Apple site, e.g.
> > http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD256Z/A
> > $69, much cheaper than the $250 you claim you are spending to download it ;)
>
> And you know he can do that from India...?
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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1.3.

Re: Physical system discs

Posted by: "ed-reiff" ed@reiff.com   ed-reiff

Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:11 am (PST)





--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@...> wrote:
>
> > If your aim is to get Lion in the first place, why just get a USB from Apple to start with.
> > Either from a local Apple store
>
> Did you miss the datum that the Indian subcontinent lacks Apple Stores?
>
see
http://www.macrumors.com/2012/01/20/apple-retail-stores-coming-to-india/

Problem solved, hopefully.
Ed

1.4.

Re: Physical system discs

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:08 pm (PST)




On Jan 20, 2012, at 4:10 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:

>
> I can't understand why *every* Mac user doesn't have a bootable clone. It's
> so easy, using either SD or CCC, and has so many advantages for so little
> cost.

From 10.0 to 10./6.8 I saw no need for a clone, since I could quickly do a clean install and leave behind any glitch that caused the crash. Only with the uncertainty I felt for Lion did I desire a clone.

My data is on a RAID and backed up, so all I would loose with a crash was detritus, and whatever issue crashed my system, unless it was a hardware failure or theft.

Brent
2a.

App uninstall ?

Posted by: "myhandle2001" RGE102840@cs.com   myhandle2001

Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:51 am (PST)



Folks:
How does one uninstall an app from a Macbook Pro OS 10.4
Rich.

2b.

Re: App uninstall ?

Posted by: "Barry Austern" barryaus@fuse.net   barryaus

Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:16 am (PST)



At 6:51 PM +0000 1/20/12, myhandle2001 wrote:

>
>
>Folks:
>How does one uninstall an app from a Macbook Pro OS 10.4
>Rich.

What app? Some you need just delete from the drive and others, which
put parts on other areas of your drive, have uninstallers. Some are
licensed to only a certain number of uses, so they should be
uninstalled to get your license back. I had to get a new hard drive
and it turned out that my copy of Office 2011 could not then be
reinstalled, as Micro$oft thought I had used up my license, and it
took a few phone calls. However, if you do not have that type of
situation then maybe you should not bother?? Modern hard drives are
large enough that a few extra megabytes won't kill you.
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net

2c.

Re: App uninstall ?

Posted by: "John Engberg" mrbyte@earthlink.net   mrbyte

Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:26 am (PST)




On Jan 20, 2012, at 1:51 PM, myhandle2001 wrote:

> Folks:
> How does one uninstall an app from a Macbook Pro OS 10.4
> Rich.
>

Rich, the best way to delete an app is to use its uninstaller, if there is one. However, with some apps that are "self-contained," so to speak, you can just drag them to the trash, but there will still be some detritus, perhaps a preference, for example. To be thorough about it, you can use an app designed to uninstall stuff, like Uninstaller, AppZapper, AppDelete, etc. There are others. Check the MacUpdate site for these. You can download them from there. Most of them are shareware.

John Engberg
2d.

Re: App uninstall ?

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:36 am (PST)



>> Folks:
>> How does one uninstall an app from a Macbook Pro OS 10.4
>> Rich.
>
> What app? Some you need just delete from the drive and others, which put parts on other areas of your drive, have uninstallers. Some are licensed to only a certain number of uses, so they should be uninstalled to get your license back.

In most cases, drag the App to the trash, and empty the trash.

--
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

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2e.

Re: App uninstall ?

Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com   randybrucesinger

Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:45 pm (PST)




On Jan 20, 2012, at 10:51 AM, myhandle2001 wrote:

> How does one uninstall an app from a Macbook Pro OS 10.4

There are uninstaller programs for the Mac. Most, in my experience,
don't do a complete job.

I'm told that CleanApp $15
<http://www.syniumsoftware.com/cleanapp/>
(I think the trial version lets you uninstall 10 applications) has a
database of common applications' cruft,
so it does a pretty good job of scrubbing old software completely,

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
___________________________________________

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2f.

Re: App uninstall ?

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:15 pm (PST)



On Jan 20, 2012, at 1:51 PM, myhandle2001 wrote:

> Folks:
> How does one uninstall an app from a Macbook Pro OS 10.4
> Rich.

Apptrap is a free prefpane app file removal system that will remove small files associated with a large app, when it is moved to the trash.

http://onnati.net/apptrap/

Harry

Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@comcast.net

3a.

Re: Replace Ventura Publisher

Posted by: "Jurgen Richter" yahoo-1@sympatico.ca   epsongroups

Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:12 am (PST)



Josephine wrote:
There is also the matter of embedding fonts in the pdf, otherwise the
printer will have to find the fonts used.

... exactly, another one of those options you would have control over
when you use Acrobat or the Save As or Export feature of some of the
applications discussed.

... And hope the fonts the printer "finds" are the same version and/or
foundry and format (such as TrueType or PostsScript or OpenType, etc...)
as was used in the original document.

You can embed complete fonts, or subset just the actual
characters/glyphs in use in the document - is one such setting, provided
the font is "embeddable" which is font specific and not application
specific. Some fonts are internally programmed to prevent embedding. The
intent is to prevent its propagation / disssemination and use as a
"font" without paying a royalty to the font foundry who created it. One
workaround is to convert the font to "outline" which makes it part of
the vector artwork, or rastered into part of an image. It is no longer a
font, meaning you cannot use it to type new words with the keyboard, but
a complex mathematical curve. Works fine for headlines and such, but a
bear when applied to body text.

3b.

Re: Replace Ventura Publisher

Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com   randybrucesinger

Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:41 pm (PST)




On Jan 20, 2012, at 7:54 AM, Jurgen Richter wrote:

> Adobe PDF would seem to be of some standard, but what version is this?
> Hi Res, Low Res, Printer Quality, Offset Printing Quality....
> That is important to know and to be able to set.

You can set these parameters on a Mac without the need for any
additional software using Quartz filters.

Open your PDF file in Preview (in your Applications folder),
Choose Save As from the File menu,
at the bottom of the Save As dialog box choose Format: PDF
and set additional parameters in the Quartz Filter drop down menu.

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
___________________________________________

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3c.

Re: Replace Ventura Publisher

Posted by: "Josephine Bacon" bacon@langservice.com   baconandeggs_2001

Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:54 am (PST)



Embedding is not usually a problem with Adobe Acrobat, which used to
have a separate program for this, I forget the name. This is important
for fonts in non-Latin alphabets, such as Hebrew and Arabic, where the
printer is most unlikely to have these fonts already. If you are using
standard fonts in these languages, you will have no problem. If you
are using some fancy proprietary font, you will have to buy the rights
to use it in the pdf.
Josephine Bacon
Tamr Translations
197 Kings Cross Road
London WC1X 9DB
Tel: 020 7 278 9490

On 20 Jan 2012, at 19:12, Jurgen Richter wrote:

> Josephine wrote:
> There is also the matter of embedding fonts in the pdf, otherwise the
> printer will have to find the fonts used.
>
> ... exactly, another one of those options you would have control over
> when you use Acrobat or the Save As or Export feature of some of the
> applications discussed.
>
> ... And hope the fonts the printer "finds" are the same version and/or
> foundry and format (such as TrueType or PostsScript or OpenType,
> etc...)
> as was used in the original document.
>
> You can embed complete fonts, or subset just the actual
> characters/glyphs in use in the document - is one such setting,
> provided
> the font is "embeddable" which is font specific and not application
> specific. Some fonts are internally programmed to prevent embedding.
> The
> intent is to prevent its propagation / disssemination and use as a
> "font" without paying a royalty to the font foundry who created it.
> One
> workaround is to convert the font to "outline" which makes it part of
> the vector artwork, or rastered into part of an image. It is no
> longer a
> font, meaning you cannot use it to type new words with the keyboard,
> but
> a complex mathematical curve. Works fine for headlines and such, but a
> bear when applied to body text.
>

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4a.

Mail 5.1 Attached vs Inline?

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:37 am (PST)



There used to be an option within Mail preferences as to whether or not to attach an attached file, or insert it inline when composing mail. I no longer see that option in 5.1, and everything seems to go inline when I compose something.

I need to have an attachment actually BE an attachment without zipping or archiving the file in any manner, in this case, pdf files.

Is there a new way to accomplish this, or am I missing the option somewhere?

TIA

Harry

Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@comcast.net

4b.

Re: Mail 5.1 Attached vs Inline?

Posted by: "Oneal Neumann" wardell.h.s@gmail.com   newalander

Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:28 pm (PST)




> On 2012 January 20 (at 14:37) Harry Flaxman wrote:
>
> There used to be an option within Mail preferences as to whether or not to attach an attached file, or insert it inline when composing mail. I no longer see that option in 5.1, and everything seems to go inline when I compose something.
>
> I need to have an attachment actually BE an attachment without zipping or archiving the file in any manner, in this case, pdf files.
>
> Is there a new way to accomplish this, or am I missing the option somewhere? Harry
>

I was under the impression that picture files and video files physically showed within emails, Harry. I quite often 'illustrate' my emails with pictures, which (tend to) remain where I've situated them.

The only glitch for me is that I center all my emails. When I combine file types (eg: .jpg & .mp4) then all the attachments move to the far left during sending. If I only send JPEGs, then they stay in place.

I'm used to that now. I run version 4.5 of Mail. Oneal

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4c.

Re: Mail 5.1 Attached vs Inline?

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:26 pm (PST)



On Jan 20, 2012, at 10:28 PM, Oneal Neumann wrote:

>>
>> On 2012 January 20 (at 14:37) Harry Flaxman wrote:
>>
>> There used to be an option within Mail preferences as to whether or not to attach an attached file, or insert it inline when composing mail. I no longer see that option in 5.1, and everything seems to go inline when I compose something.
>>
>> I need to have an attachment actually BE an attachment without zipping or archiving the file in any manner, in this case, pdf files.
>>
>> Is there a new way to accomplish this, or am I missing the option somewhere? Harry
>>
>
>
>
> I was under the impression that picture files and video files physically showed within emails, Harry. I quite often 'illustrate' my emails with pictures, which (tend to) remain where I‚ve situated them.
>
> The only glitch for me is that I center all my emails. When I combine file types (eg: .jpg & .mp4) then all the attachments move to the far left during sending. If I only send JPEGs, then they stay in place.
>
> I‚m used to that now. I run version 4.5 of Mail. Oneal

Not sure if it what I was looking for, but in previous versions of Mail, I believe there used to be a preference switch that would determine this. If so, it's gone now.

I know that in order to get any sort of .txt file to attach, rather than become part of the message's text itself, it has to be archived.

Thanks Oneal.

Harry

Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@comcast.net

4d.

Re: Mail 5.1 Attached vs Inline?

Posted by: "Island Center for the Arts" finearts@otenet.gr   monkeymannmcghee

Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:48 am (PST)



Harry - I don't see the preference you suggested might be in earlier versions of Mail. I have 4.5.
I just stick things in folders then attach the folder so all the viewer sees is the folder icon.

Then again sometimes I'll attach a photo or PDF directly to the message so it appears as part of the message.

Tom

On Jan 21, 2012, at 8:26 AM, Harry Flaxman wrote:

> On Jan 20, 2012, at 10:28 PM, Oneal Neumann wrote:
>
>>>
>>> On 2012 January 20 (at 14:37) Harry Flaxman wrote:
>>>
>>> There used to be an option within Mail preferences as to whether or not to attach an attached file, or insert it inline when composing mail. I no longer see that option in 5.1, and everything seems to go inline when I compose something.
>>>
>>> I need to have an attachment actually BE an attachment without zipping or archiving the file in any manner, in this case, pdf files.
>>>
>>> Is there a new way to accomplish this, or am I missing the option somewhere? Harry
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I was under the impression that picture files and video files physically showed within emails, Harry. I quite often 'illustrate' my emails with pictures, which (tend to) remain where I‚ve situated them.
>>
>> The only glitch for me is that I center all my emails. When I combine file types (eg: .jpg & .mp4) then all the attachments move to the far left during sending. If I only send JPEGs, then they stay in place.
>>
>> I‚m used to that now. I run version 4.5 of Mail. Oneal
>
> Not sure if it what I was looking for, but in previous versions of Mail, I believe there used to be a preference switch that would determine this. If so, it's gone now.
>
> I know that in order to get any sort of .txt file to attach, rather than become part of the message's text itself, it has to be archived.
>
> Thanks Oneal.
>
> Harry
>
>
> Harry Flaxman
> harry.flaxman@comcast.net
>
>
>
>
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5.

Fwd: Apple stores may be coming to India | MacTech

Posted by: "Tim O'Donoghue" tjod@drizzle.net   timodonoghue

Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:44 am (PST)



This might be of interest in light of recent discussions.

http://www.mactech.com/2012/01/20/apple-stores-may-be-coming-india

6.1.

Re: Looking for an alternative to Address Book and iCal

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:04 pm (PST)




On Jan 20, 2012, at 4:03 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:

> I'm with you on most of that, but don't forget you can link to attachments
> and "attendees" in iCal.
>
> Also, why can't you sync Numbers to the iPhone? Do you not have the iOS
> version of Numbers?

I'm not the OP of this thread. So I have not needed to link attachments, or were you speaking to Anna?

You can't sync Numbers, just copy to the iPhone. Stupid, huh? I which it synced.

Brent
7a.

Re: No gift cards

Posted by: "gicleeman" gicleeman@netscape.net   gicleeman

Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:03 pm (PST)



A word of warning to those who use a debit card. Banks won't necessarily protect your account against debit card fraud, like they all do for credit card fraud. You could get wiped out by debit card fraud and you'll be left with nothing.
I think I'd rather use a credit card. If my checking account were wiped out I'd be pissed at myself for not bothering to scrape and enter.

Peter

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, BLAINE GORDON <blainegordon@...> wrote:
>
> I agree with the safety of Apple and I tried to use gift cards as the idiot
> at applecare told me but I didn¹t like scraping and entering. I have a new
> debit card and new passwords and everything else has been canceled. I use
> the new debit card at the various websites. One nice fallout of the gift
> card fiasco is that I have a nice credit balance with Apple. As little as I
> purchase, it will last a long time. Hmmm... Maybe I will get the new
> Springsteen album from iTunes after all.
> Cheers,
> Blaine Gordon
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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