2/03/2012

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10.7.3

Posted by: "Blaine Gordon" blainegordon@ymail.com   blainegordon@ymail.com

Thu Feb 2, 2012 6:39 am (PST)



I updated to 10.7.3 using Software Update. I have no trouble with Airport or any other applications. I tried most of them. I don't have all that many and none of them crashed. I use a mac Mini Core 2 Duo. I wonder if the crashes are specific to a family of Macs or a family of processors though I don't see how. I even downloaded a new app and it works fine. I guess I don't understand the crashes. I do have a backup of 10.7.2. I always do that just in case. It is most likely today I will back up 10.7.3.
Blaine Gordon
Mac Mini core 2 duo early 2009
4GB memory
Wireless everything but the screen.
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Western Digital Thunderbolt

Posted by: "Denver dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Thu Feb 2, 2012 7:07 am (PST)



WD demoed a Thunderbolt equipped MyBook prototype external HD at MacWorld.

The HD case had 2 ThunderBolt ports which allowed 2 of the drives to be daisy chained as a RAID.

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AirPort Utility 6.0 Out

Posted by: "Denver dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Thu Feb 2, 2012 7:17 am (PST)



AirPort Utility 6.0 also just released. It's a major rewrite & incorporates an iOS style.

However, it also removes many advanced features of WiFi management.

Apparently the older AirPort utility is still available to download and is Lion compatible and still has the advanced features. Most home WiFi/AirPort users won't need the advanced features.

The 6.0 version and older version can coexist on same Mac.

Do search on AirPort 6.0 topic for several articles.

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Re: AirPort Utility 6.0 Out

Posted by: "Jon Kreisler" jonkreisler@gmail.com   jonkreisler

Thu Feb 2, 2012 8:50 am (PST)



If you perform the update to v6.0 and then download & install the 5.6
version, the 5.6 version will be named "Airport Utility 5.6.app". The only
possible downside is both versions use the same preferences files (A change
to preferences in one version affects the other.)

Jon

On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Denver dan <denver.dan@verizon.net> wrote:

> **
>
>
> AirPort Utility 6.0 also just released. It's a major rewrite &
> incorporates an iOS style.
>
> However, it also removes many advanced features of WiFi management.
>
> Apparently the older AirPort utility is still available to download and is
> Lion compatible and still has the advanced features. Most home WiFi/AirPort
> users won't need the advanced features.
>
> The 6.0 version and older version can coexist on same Mac.
>
> Do search on AirPort 6.0 topic for several articles.
>
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> iFrom Denver Dan's iPhone
>
> � my magical animal is a butterfly
>

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Re: AirPort Utility 6.0 Out

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Thu Feb 2, 2012 4:00 pm (PST)




On Feb 2, 2012, at 7:17 AM, Denver dan wrote:

> AirPort Utility 6.0 also just released. It's a major rewrite & incorporates an iOS style.
>
> However, it also removes many advanced features of WiFi management.
>
> Apparently the older AirPort utility is still available to download and is Lion compatible and still has the advanced features. Most home WiFi/AirPort users won't need the advanced features.

Could you list some of the advanced WiFi features that are lost?

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Re: iPhone - iMessage Question

Posted by: "Jay Abraham" jaygroups@abrahamgroup.net   kerala01212001

Thu Feb 2, 2012 8:08 am (PST)



Hi Roger,

Basically if the message can't be delivered as an iMessage(data), it will shift over to SMS - this is the default, unless the sender turns off the Setting:Messages "Send as SMS".

It appears your brother has set up his registration for iMessage as his e-mail address rather than his phone number. Does he by any chance also have an iPad from which he messages - I sometimes message from my iPad and it is set up with my me.com address. It also seems like he has set it up so that it won't go as SMS if iMessage is unavailable.

Not sure why the text would appear in gray though.

Jay
On Feb 2, 2012, at 7:52 AM, Roger Harris wrote:

> Sorry to be flogging a dead horse here, but...
>
> As has been pointed out - the proprietary Apple messaging system is sent as data. A question:
>
> Is it a true statement that if (for whatever reason) the message cannot be delivered as data (blue), it will be delivered as an SMS (green)?
>
> Recently in Belgium, I had trouble texting with my brother-in-law who lives there. We both have iphone 4S w/ios5. I had Data Roaming - OFF (because I don't have an international data plan and I understand that I could get some unexpected charges on my bill). He had it on. I had Cellular Data - ON and Voice Roaming - ON. I was able to send him messages, that appeared green on my phone. I was able to receive a phone call from him. I was unable to receive messages from him until I briefly turned on my Data Roaming and then his messages came in (grey) with the sender as xxx@me.com. I didn't try texting anybody else for a more complete explanation, but --- can anybody explain that?
>
> Thx, Roger

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Re: iPhone - iMessage Question

Posted by: "Joan B Sax Ph.D." jsax@me.com   joan05061

Thu Feb 2, 2012 12:42 pm (PST)



So, to recapitulate (and to see if I understand the substance of this topic), the iPhone has a built-in (in iOS5 that is) feature called iMessage, found under Settings/Messages that can be turned on. And if you turn that iMessage feature on, AND, if someone you know with an iPhone also has it turned on, messages between those two iPhones will not count as part of the message limit set by your AT&T contract. If, on the other hand, the person to whom you sent messages or from whom you receive messages (and who has iOS5) does not have the iMessage feature turned on, then messages to and from said iPhone will count in the message number limit that you have paid AT&T for.
The built-in iPhone feature is not to be confused with the iMessage app found in iTunes app store (that go very poor reviews, by the way), although from the description, it seems to do the same thing (when it works, that is).
Now, here is one further question, if you send a message to a non iOS5 phone (android or whatever) the message will be counted in the limit of messages set by your contract with AT&T. But, can the iMessage app available in the iTunes app store be used by a non-iPhone device and, if so, will the result be similar to the situation where two iPhones with the installed iMessage feature turned on, namely that messages between your iPhone and the non-iPhone will not be counted in the message limit you have?

Joan, who may have muddied the waters even further.

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Re: iPhone - iMessage Question

Posted by: "Katrin" kaekka@gmx.de   kaekka

Thu Feb 2, 2012 1:12 pm (PST)



Roger,

You are right.
Blue means iMessage, sent as data (wifi or 3g), both sides need to have an iDevice, works with mobile phone number or apple ID, data roaming needs to be turned on (both iDevices need to be able to send/receive data), no extra charge on your phone bill (if you're not over the limit of your data plan). I think you can compare this to push email that is restricted to iDevices.
Green means SMS. If you are not able to send data for any reason, your message will be send as SMS. If you do not want that, there is an option in settings to turn this off. Then your message won't be send at all. I guess the message won't be deleted and you can send it again when you are able to send data again.
I don't know what happens if you send a message to an iDevice that uses iMessage with a phone number and is not able to receive data at that moment. I guess it will be sent as SMS instead, if you didn't turn this off in settings.

Katrin

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "Roger Harris" <skunktown@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry to be flogging a dead horse here, but...
>
> As has been pointed out - the proprietary Apple messaging system is sent as data. A question:
>
> Is it a true statement that if (for whatever reason) the message cannot be delivered as data (blue), it will be delivered as an SMS (green)?
>
> Recently in Belgium, I had trouble texting with my brother-in-law who lives there. We both have iphone 4S w/ios5. I had Data Roaming - OFF (because I don't have an international data plan and I understand that I could get some unexpected charges on my bill). He had it on. I had Cellular Data - ON and Voice Roaming - ON. I was able to send him messages, that appeared green on my phone. I was able to receive a phone call from him. I was unable to receive messages from him until I briefly turned on my Data Roaming and then his messages came in (grey) with the sender as xxx@... I didn't try texting anybody else for a more complete explanation, but --- can anybody explain that?
>
> Thx, Roger

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Re: iPhone - iMessage Question

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Thu Feb 2, 2012 2:43 pm (PST)



Howdy.

Joan, I think you have stated it all correctly.

And yes, the iMessage app (not from Apple) was pretty sparse and
inconvenient.

I can't answer your question about using the non Apple iMessage app to
send free text messages to non iOS devices.

I know that there are a number of texting apps for iOS that can send
free text messages but I guess checking the App store and reading the
descriptions would be the only way to discover them.

I suggest doing an internet search for free texting apps. Here's one
link to start you off.

<http://www.businessinsider.com/free-texting-apps-2011-8>

It's a list of 10 free texting apps but not all for iPhone/iOS.

Denver Dan

p.s. Any relation to the early 20th century writer named Sax Rohmer
who created the character of Dr. Fu Manchu? (oh, well, I just looked
up Sax Rohmer and it was a pen name. :-( )

On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 15:41:58 -0500, Joan B Sax Ph.D. wrote:
> So, to recapitulate (and to see if I understand the substance of this
> topic), the iPhone has a built-in (in iOS5 that is) feature called
> iMessage, found under Settings/Messages that can be turned on. And
> if you turn that iMessage feature on, AND, if someone you know with
> an iPhone also has it turned on, messages between those two iPhones
> will not count as part of the message limit set by your AT&T
> contract. If, on the other hand, the person to whom you sent messages
> or from whom you receive messages (and who has iOS5) does not have
> the iMessage feature turned on, then messages to and from said iPhone
> will count in the message number limit that you have paid AT&T for.
> The built-in iPhone feature is not to be confused with the iMessage
> app found in iTunes app store (that go very poor reviews, by the
> way), although from the description, it seems to do the same thing
> (when it works, that is).
> Now, here is one further question, if you send a message to a non
> iOS5 phone (android or whatever) the message will be counted in the
> limit of messages set by your contract with AT&T. But, can the
> iMessage app available in the iTunes app store be used by a
> non-iPhone device and, if so, will the result be similar to the
> situation where two iPhones with the installed iMessage feature
> turned on, namely that messages between your iPhone and the
> non-iPhone will not be counted in the message limit you have?
>
> Joan, who may have muddied the waters even further.

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Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 Released

Posted by: "Nick Andriash" medic65@telus.net   andriash2005

Thu Feb 2, 2012 8:47 am (PST)




On 2012-02-01, at 7:42 PM, paul smith wrote:

> No problem here, but I installed from the Combo updater right off the bat. That has become my standard practice.

Can someone tell my what this "Combo Updater" is? This is the first that I have heard the term mentioned. I have always updated via Software Update, not realizing that there is another option. How do the two options differ to each other, and is one method recommended over the other?

Thanks for your help.

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Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 Released

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Thu Feb 2, 2012 11:41 am (PST)



On 2/2/2012 11:47 AM, Nick Andriash wrote:
> Can someone tell my what this "Combo Updater" is? This is the first that I have heard the term mentioned. I have always updated via Software Update, not realizing that there is another option. How do the two options differ to each other, and is one method recommended over the other?
>
> Thanks for your help.

Most long time OS X users use the Combo updater, available from Apple's
download site, in lieu of the Software Update version. For some reason,
in the past, this has caused few problems and actually resolved some
that the Software Update version hasn't.

If you've already used Software Update, you can still download the Combo
and run that as well.

Harry

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Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 Released

Posted by: "Jon Kreisler" jonkreisler@gmail.com   jonkreisler

Thu Feb 2, 2012 11:45 am (PST)



The URL is
http://support.apple.com/downloads/DL1484/en_US/MacOSXUpdCombo10.7.3.dmg

Jon

On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Harry Flaxman <harry.flaxman@comcast.net>wrote:

> **
>
>
> On 2/2/2012 11:47 AM, Nick Andriash wrote:
> > Can someone tell my what this "Combo Updater" is? This is the first that
> I have heard the term mentioned. I have always updated via Software Update,
> not realizing that there is another option. How do the two options differ
> to each other, and is one method recommended over the other?
> >
> > Thanks for your help.
>
> Most long time OS X users use the Combo updater, available from Apple's
> download site, in lieu of the Software Update version. For some reason,
> in the past, this has caused few problems and actually resolved some
> that the Software Update version hasn't.
>
> If you've already used Software Update, you can still download the Combo
> and run that as well.
>
> Harry
>
>
>
>

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Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 Released

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Thu Feb 2, 2012 4:07 pm (PST)




On Feb 2, 2012, at 8:47 AM, Nick Andriash wrote:

>
> On 2012-02-01, at 7:42 PM, paul smith wrote:
>
> > No problem here, but I installed from the Combo updater right off the bat. That has become my standard practice.
>
> Can someone tell my what this "Combo Updater" is? This is the first that I have heard the term mentioned. I have always updated via Software Update, not realizing that there is another option. How do the two options differ to each other, and is one method recommended over the other?

When you use Software Update it selects a version that is tailored to that specific machine. The Combo Updater is larger, included things from previous updates that you may be missing and contains all the components for all models of Mac.

So if you skipped several updates, this would fill in the missing components, or if you want to download it only one to update several different Macs, you are better off downloading the Combined Updater. It will be larger, but will cover everything. If you are archiving an update, you are also better archiving the combined.

If you encounter problems after an specific update, the first thing to try to correct it is to use the Combined Update, in case a component was missing (for any number of reasons).

You have to go to Apple Support to locate the Combined Updates.

Brent
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Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 Released

Posted by: "Ken" avlisk@cox.net   avliska

Thu Feb 2, 2012 4:18 pm (PST)



So, what if you just bought a new Macbook with Lion installed and migrated your old files with Migration Assistant? I have just this one computer. Can I simply do the weekly search for new updates and download them as the Software Updater finds them and be OK? Or should I be using this Combo Updater too, just to be safe? And if the Software Updater isn't good, why does Apple even bother giving it to us? Thanks.
Ken Silva

> > Can someone tell my what this "Combo Updater" is?
> When you use Software Update it selects a version that is tailored to that specific machine. The Combo Updater is larger, included things from previous updates that you may be missing and contains all the components for all models of Mac.
>
> So if you skipped several updates, this would fill in the missing components, or if you want to download it only one to update several different Macs, you are better off downloading the Combined Updater. It will be larger, but will cover everything. If you are archiving an update, you are also better archiving the combined.
>
> If you encounter problems after an specific update, the first thing to try to correct it is to use the Combined Update, in case a component was missing (for any number of reasons).

>
> Brent
>

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Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 Released

Posted by: "Jim Harry" jim.harry@harryfamily.com   jnharry

Thu Feb 2, 2012 4:33 pm (PST)



On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 7:18 PM, Ken <avlisk@cox.net> wrote:
> Can I simply do the weekly search for new updates and download them as the Software Updater finds them and be OK?

That's what Apple intends, and what I do, with no problems.

> Or should I be using this Combo Updater too, just to be safe?  And if the Software Updater isn't good, why does Apple even bother giving it to us? Thanks.

See above. :)

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Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 Released

Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com   randybrucesinger

Thu Feb 2, 2012 6:16 pm (PST)




On Feb 2, 2012, at 4:18 PM, Ken wrote:

> Or should I be using this Combo Updater too, just to be safe?

Long-time Mac users have found that many times in the past that
updating via the Combo Updater yields better results than using
Software Update. So much so that those in the know recommend that
you routinely use the CU instead of SU.

The problem with using SU in this instance (with OS X 10.7.3) and
then going with the CU if there are problems, is that users are
reporting problems using the SU that make it difficult or impossible
to download the CU to repair things. See:
http://is.gd/hiiXAT

> And if the Software Updater isn't good, why does Apple even bother
> giving it to us?

Because the SU presents a much smaller file, that is quite a bit
quicker and easier to download, especially for users who still have
dial-up.

___________________________________________
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Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
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Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 Released

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Thu Feb 2, 2012 9:57 pm (PST)



I run a very plain vanilla system, keep it fairly up to date (with in a week or two) and I use just Software Update 98% of the time with no problems. I have almost no third party software that modifies (tweaks) the OS or incorporated applications. I download the Combo Updater only at specific times or I am going to archive an update.

I generally install updates from Software Updates within 3 or 4 days of the release. So far I have not been bitten by an update in 11 year. But I do wait a couple of days to see if there are any issues. I was on the bleeding edge for a couple of years and still have not been burned by software.

I have never used Migration Assistant, I'd rather just move over my data and leave behind any old software, caches, prefs, settings & problems.

You know how current you keep your system, how much third party software that modifies the OS or incorporated applications you use, and if you are currently having any issues with your system. That gives you an indication of if you might have a problem using Software Update.

Why does Apple use Software Updater, because it works 99.5% of the time.

Brent

On Feb 2, 2012, at 4:18 PM, Ken wrote:

> So, what if you just bought a new Macbook with Lion installed and migrated your old files with Migration Assistant? I have just this one computer. Can I simply do the weekly search for new updates and download them as the Software Updater finds them and be OK? Or should I be using this Combo Updater too, just to be safe? And if the Software Updater isn't good, why does Apple even bother giving it to us? Thanks.
> Ken Silva
>
> > > Can someone tell my what this "Combo Updater" is?
> > When you use Software Update it selects a version that is tailored to that specific machine. The Combo Updater is larger, included things from previous updates that you may be missing and contains all the components for all models of Mac.
> >
> > So if you skipped several updates, this would fill in the missing components, or if you want to download it only one to update several different Macs, you are better off downloading the Combined Updater. It will be larger, but will cover everything. If you are archiving an update, you are also better archiving the combined.
> >
> > If you encounter problems after an specific update, the first thing to try to correct it is to use the Combined Update, in case a component was missing (for any number of reasons).
>
> >
> > Brent
> >

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Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 Released

Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com   randybrucesinger

Fri Feb 3, 2012 2:54 am (PST)




On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:57 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:

> Why does Apple use Software Updater, because it works 99.5% of the
> time.

Do you have any basis for citing that particular percentage, or did
you just make it up?

A quick Google search indicates that most authorities recommend
updating OS X via the Combo updater instead of via Software Update.
Though I can't find the specific article using Google, apparently
there was a MacFixIt article detailing a test that they did where
they found that updating via the CU gives you more total system files
than updating via SU. This may at least partially be why using the
CU provides better results.

http://staff.science.nus.edu.sg/~sivasothi/macintosh/install-osx.html

http://hintsforums.macworld.com/showthread.php?t=11632

http://www.office.mvps.org/troubleshoot/combo.html

<http://macosx.com/forums/mac-os-x-system-mac-software/277977-
updating-delta-vs-combo-os.html>

<http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2012/02/problems-with-the-os-
x-1073-update-combo-updater-to-the-rescue.ars>

___________________________________________
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Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
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Apple already investigating Mac OS X 10.7.3 CUI, application crashin

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com   boulware0224

Thu Feb 2, 2012 11:30 am (PST)



http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/9To5Mac-MacAllDay/~3/kyrIyb4m_5w/

Sent to you by Bill Boulware via Google Reader: Apple already
investigating Mac OS X 10.7.3 CUI, application crashing issues via
9to5Mac by Mark Gurman on 2/2/12



This morning, news broke out that Apple's latest Mac OS X update –
10.7.3 – includes an odd bug surrounding CUI and app crashes. A number
of 10.7.3 users are reporting that applications are often crashing and
are given error messages with "CUI" stamped on it (as shown in the
screenshot above). While 10.7.3 was just released yesterday, Apple is
already investigating the issue and is looking to create a fix for
affected users. According to a source familiar with the matter, Apple
has just sent out the following email to a Mac OS X 10.7.3 test group:

We would like to know if you have experienced an issue after updating
to 10.7.3 characterized by the following: Applications crash or quit on
launch, The term "CUI" and other graphic anomalies appear in dialogs
and windows. If you have encountered this issue please submit a bug
report. Be sure to include the following with your report: Install
logs, system logs, a full System Report.

There is no indication regarding how or when Apple plans to release
this fix, but users can workaround the issue themselves with the steps
we provided in our earlier post:



If all fails, the last resort involves booting into a Lion Recovery
partition on a boot volume or USB stick:

- Boot into the Recovery partition by holding down the Option key at
startup.
- Choose "Disk Utility" from the Menu bar and mount the combo installer
image file .
- Choose "Terminal" from the Menu bar and run "installer
-pkg /Volumes/Mac\ OS\ X\ 10.7.3\ Update\
Combo/MacOSXUpdCombo10.7.3.pkg -target /Volumes/Macintosh\ HD" (Change
the target to reflect the startup volume's name.) Be patient, as it can
take up to 15 minutes or more to apply the combo update.
- Run "reboot" and you are done.

If you do not have the combo installer at hand, follow these steps
after booting into the Recovery partition and before executing Terminal
commands:

- Select "Browse for help online" to launch the Safari browser .
- Visit http://support.apple.com/downloads/ and download the 10.7.3
combo update [direct link].
- Quit Safari after the combo installer is successfully downloaded.
- Open Disk Utility from the Menu bar, choose "Open Disk Image" from
the File menu and select the combo installer from where you saved it.
- Quit Disk Utility after the volume is mounted and apply the
aforementioned Terminal commands.





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Re: Apple already investigating Mac OS X 10.7.3 CUI, application cra

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Thu Feb 2, 2012 12:31 pm (PST)



Howdy.

Thanks for this note and link, Bill.

I installed Mac OS X 10.7.3 via the combo updater. Zero problems.

I read this short article about the CUI issue and and have a couple of
questions.

1. Does the CUI freeze/crash ONLY appear when using Safari? Launching
Safari?

2. Combo updater versus Software Update for 10.7.3. Does the article
seem to indicate that installing from the combo updater avoids the CUI
problem?? (Since a possible solution is to boot from recovery
partition and install from combo updater using Terminal command.)

Denver Dan


On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 19:30:00 +0000, Bill Boulware wrote:
> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/9To5Mac-MacAllDay/~3/kyrIyb4m_5w/
>
>
>
> Sent to you by Bill Boulware via Google Reader: Apple already
>
> investigating Mac OS X 10.7.3 CUI, application crashing issues via
>
> 9to5Mac by Mark Gurman on 2/2/12
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> This morning, news broke out that Apple's latest Mac OS X update –
>
> 10.7.3 – includes an odd bug surrounding CUI and app crashes. A number
>
> of 10.7.3 users are reporting that applications are often crashing and
>
> are given error messages with "CUI" stamped on it (as shown in the
>
> screenshot above). While 10.7.3 was just released yesterday, Apple is
>
> already investigating the issue and is looking to create a fix for
>
> affected users. According to a source familiar with the matter, Apple
>
> has just sent out the following email to a Mac OS X 10.7.3 test group:
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Re: Apple already investigating Mac OS X 10.7.3 CUI, application cra

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com   boulware0224

Thu Feb 2, 2012 12:34 pm (PST)



I haven't had a chance to install 10.7.3 on any of my machines yet but from
what I have read, I would assume # 2 is correct - using the combo updater
prevents any issues and if you are having issues after using Software
Update, using the combo updater fixes the issue. Which reiterates the fact
that nothing beats using the Combo instead of just updating.

2012/2/2 Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net>

> **
>
>
> Howdy.
>
> Thanks for this note and link, Bill.
>
> I installed Mac OS X 10.7.3 via the combo updater. Zero problems.
>
> I read this short article about the CUI issue and and have a couple of
> questions.
>
> 1. Does the CUI freeze/crash ONLY appear when using Safari? Launching
> Safari?
>
> 2. Combo updater versus Software Update for 10.7.3. Does the article
> seem to indicate that installing from the combo updater avoids the CUI
> problem?? (Since a possible solution is to boot from recovery
> partition and install from combo updater using Terminal command.)
>
> Denver Dan
>
>
> On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 19:30:00 +0000, Bill Boulware wrote:
> > http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/9To5Mac-MacAllDay/~3/kyrIyb4m_5w/
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent to you by Bill Boulware via Google Reader: Apple already
> >
> > investigating Mac OS X 10.7.3 CUI, application crashing issues via
> >
> > 9to5Mac by Mark Gurman on 2/2/12
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > This morning, news broke out that Apple�s latest Mac OS X update �
> >
> > 10.7.3 � includes an odd bug surrounding CUI and app crashes. A number
> >
> > of 10.7.3 users are reporting that applications are often crashing and
> >
> > are given error messages with �CUI� stamped on it (as shown in the
> >
> > screenshot above). While 10.7.3 was just released yesterday, Apple is
> >
> > already investigating the issue and is looking to create a fix for
> >
> > affected users. According to a source familiar with the matter, Apple
> >
> > has just sent out the following email to a Mac OS X 10.7.3 test group:
>
>
>

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7a.

Re: More on extended-ASCII characters in Mail app

Posted by: "Oneal Neumann" wardell.h.s@gmail.com   newalander

Thu Feb 2, 2012 7:35 pm (PST)




> On 2012 January 31 (at 04:46) Alan Fry wrote:
>> On 29 Jan 2012, at 07:37, Oneal Neumann wrote:
>>
>> Mail > Message > Text Encoding presumably effects incoming emails, however selecting UTF-8 seems to do nothing to ameliorate incoming weirdnesses.
>
> No, it is actually the other way round, Mail->Message->Text sets the character encoding for composing the message. If you leave it set to 'Automatic' and use 'Rich Text', Mail.app will always choose utf-8. which is the best option. The only reason for setting something else would be if you >know< the recipient cannot handle utf-8 and needs a specific character encoding. Alan Fry

Automatic
Western (ISO Latin 1)
Western (Windows Latin 1)
Western (Mac OS Roman)
Western (Mac Mail)
�����������������
Central European (ISO Latin 2)
Central European (Windows Latin 2)
�����������������
Unicode (UTF-8)

Sorry Alan, your assertion that Text Encoding only pertains to outgoing emails is incorrect.

Going to Mail > Message > Text Encoding, one sees the above list. When one opens a blank email in Apple Mail, lines 4 and 5 are paled, meaning that those modes are not accessible to outgoing emails.

On the other hand, all incoming emails can access all eight modes. None is paled.

The following is from Mail Help:

[TITLE] If a message contains unexpected characters:

When you receive a message, Mail uses information in the message to determine its text encoding. If the incoming message doesn�t identify its text encoding, some characters may be displayed incorrectly.

If the characters don�t appear correctly, choose Message > Text Encoding, and then choose an encoding you think might display them correctly.

Your point about Mail always selecting UTF-8 may be true, however that probably has nothing to do with anything I�ve done or can do, perhaps aside from choosing Rich Text.

For your point to be valid, Text Encoding (for outgoing emails) should be found here: Mail > Preferences > Composing > Composing. This is where the choice for Rich Text is located.

Just for a (laugh) test, I selected line 7 during this writing. (I couldn�t get line 6 to work.) As soon as I got my email back from Outbox, the encoding �selection' reverted to line 1.

No selected outgoing encoding remained selected as such. All reverted to Automatic, which means that Text Encoding only pertains to incoming emails. No 'outgoing selection' sticks.

Finally, the fact that Text Encoding exists in a Message-menu section that contains nothing other than Remove Attachments is the final clue that TE only deals with incoming emails.

Thanx. Oneal

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Re: More on extended-ASCII characters in Mail app

Posted by: "Oneal Neumann" wardell.h.s@gmail.com   newalander

Thu Feb 2, 2012 7:37 pm (PST)




> On 2012 January 30 (at 18:27) Keith Whaley wrote:
>> Oneal Neumann wrote:
>>
>>> On 2012 January 27 (at 05:53) Alan Fry wrote:
>>>
>>> It may be that HAL9000 has Mail.app set to compose in 'Plain Text'
>>> rather than 'Rich Text'? I am sending this message in 'Rich Text'
>>> which should ensure that it is encoded to UTF-8 and thus it should
>>> avoid these ambiguities. We shall see.
>>>
>>> I hope raising this topic again is not boring, but it does seem to
>>> me important that Apple's Mail app should be able to handle
>>> nonASCII characters reliably and consistently. That is, after all,
>>> the aim of UTF-8. If it cannot, then I think it should be brought
>>> to Apple's attention. Alan Fry
>>
>> Your point is well-taken, Alan. I�ve noticed that some of my posts
>> have apostrophes transformed to commas, however that has only
>> occurred with some nonregular posts.
>
> […]
>
> What is it you mean by 'nonregular' posts, please? keith

My use of 'nonregular' was an attempt to differentiate between the type of Yahoo! emails that I used to get exclusively via this group —those are the 'regular' posts— and other types of emails —the 'nonregular' ones— that now also show up. Things (with respect to the Yahoo!-email look) changed about a year or two ago.

As with your post, Keith, the old-style Yahoo! emails used Georgia 13-point font and the text would compress to the left. The lines were always truncated; they never wrapped around as lines now do in most (nonYahoo!) emails.

Yahoo! now also allows (amongst other things) text to wrap around, thus facilitating text accommodation to the default sizes of the receiver emails.

Interestingly (and contrary to my original thought) a bit of weirdness manifested in your 'regular' Yahoo! email, Keith. My apostrophe became (filtered through you) a question mark embedded in a black diamond. Kinda cute.

Used to get that a lot from certain people using certain Microsoft email apps. Not sure why that apostrophe, and not the ones from the previous (Alan Fry) post, got transfigured.

Thanx. Oneal

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Re: Mail autofill-address question

Posted by: "Oneal Neumann" wardell.h.s@gmail.com   newalander

Thu Feb 2, 2012 7:38 pm (PST)




> On 2012 January 31 (at 18:23) Daly Jessup wrote:
>
>> On Jan 31, 2012 at 1:54 PM, bobbystar wrote:
>>
>> I am using Apple Mail 5.1 on both an IMac and Macbook Pro. Both computers OS is Mac OS X version 10.7.2
>>
>> I like the autofill feature for inserting addresses, however it offers addresses that are no longer valid. How can I delete these invalid addresses? It must have picked up some from saved messages as far back as the mid 1980s.
>
> This is an extremely frequently asked question. In the Mail app, go to the Window menu and choose Previous Recipients. Highlight one that is bad and click Remove From List. Daly

Not entirely correct, Daly.

Deepsixing an address from Previous Recipients does indeed remove that unneeded email addy, however if there is a stored email (somewhere) that has an unwanted address, then it will always show up with the autofill feature.

If one needs to be rid of a particular address, then one must looze the email associated with that address. Previous Recipients will not show an unused email addy, only used ones, both incoming and outgoing.

It is easier (for me) to delete unwanted email addies from the PR list by highlighting, then using the 'delete' keyboard button. Just a bit more convenient that way. Oneal

POSTSCRIPT: Difficult to believe that Mail has recognized (as the OP had stated) an addy from the 1980s. Who even did email back then? Email was then on nobody�s consciousness, almost. I personally did not know of (and start using) emails until the mid1990s. I doubt that Mail can recognize any email address *UNUSED* since the last millennium. ON

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9.

Belkin TOSlink Optical Audio Cable

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com   hflaxman001

Fri Feb 3, 2012 3:56 am (PST)



Does anyone have experience with the above unit, currently for sale at
the Apple store online? :

http://store.apple.com/us/product/H7048ZM/A

I'm wondering whether or not to go this route for my iMac rather than a
standard mini-TOSlink adapter and separate optical cable. Price wise,
it would be virtually identical, but thought it might be handy to have
the all in one unit.

Mentioned, also, is the MacBook Pro, and not any other model of Mac. I
would assume that the digital audio out port design would be the same on
both machines? They have been in the past.

Any feedback appreciated.

Thanks.

Harry

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