Messages In This Digest (16 Messages)
- 1a.
- Re: Belkin TOSlink Optical Audio Cable From: Harry Flaxman
- 2a.
- Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 Released From: Ken
- 2b.
- Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 Released From: Harry Flaxman
- 2c.
- Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 Released From: Ken
- 2d.
- Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 Released From: Harry Flaxman
- 2e.
- Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 Released From: Ken
- 2f.
- Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 Released From: Harry Flaxman
- 2g.
- Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 Released From: Harry Flaxman
- 2h.
- Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 Released From: Ken
- 2i.
- Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 Released From: Ken
- 3a.
- Remote desktop recommendation From: Ron West
- 3b.
- Re: Remote desktop recommendation From: Randy B. Singer
- 3c.
- Re: Remote desktop recommendation From: Rick Branscomb
- 4a.
- Re: iPhone - iMessage Question From: Roger Harris
- 5a.
- Re: More on extended-ASCII characters in Mail app From: Tod Hopkins
- 5b.
- Re: More on extended-ASCII characters in Mail app From: Tod Hopkins
Messages
- 1a.
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Re: Belkin TOSlink Optical Audio Cable
Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com hflaxman001
Fri Feb 3, 2012 3:58 am (PST)
On 2/3/2012 6:55 AM, Harry Flaxman wrote:
> I'm wondering whether or not to go this route for my iMac rather than a
> standard mini-TOSlink adapter and separate optical cable. Price wise,
> it would be virtually identical, but thought it might be handy to have
> the all in one unit.
Just looked at the blow up images of this item. Apparently, the unit is
both an adapter and cable that are separate entities but sold together.
Guess I just answered my own question, all except the port
configuration. I guess I can get that from the Apple store rep when I call.
TIA
Harry
- 2a.
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Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 Released
Posted by: "Ken" avlisk@cox.net avliska
Fri Feb 3, 2012 4:04 am (PST)
So, if I've already done updates with SU, I can use CU in the future without any issues?
I have noticed that a trio of my Apple programs opens slowly on my new computer, so I may have a problem. (This trio is iPhoto, Mail, and iTunes. However Safari is up and running in about 15 seconds from computer off, though, which is about 2 minutes quicker than my old MacBook! So, gain some/lose some.) That's pretty much all the apps I use, other than Address Book.
Ken S.
> A quick Google search indicates that most authorities recommend
> updating OS X via the Combo updater instead of via Software Update.
>
- 2b.
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Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 Released
Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com hflaxman001
Fri Feb 3, 2012 4:26 am (PST)
On 2/3/2012 7:04 AM, Ken wrote:
> So, if I've already done updates with SU, I can use CU in the future without any issues?
>
> I have noticed that a trio of my Apple programs opens slowly on my new computer, so I may have a problem. (This trio is iPhoto, Mail, and iTunes. However Safari is up and running in about 15 seconds from computer off, though, which is about 2 minutes quicker than my old MacBook! So, gain some/lose some.) That's pretty much all the apps I use, other than Address Book.
Sure, you can use the Combo updater without a problem in the future.
You mention slow starting apps. Have you tried shutting down with the
apps running? I find that my machine will start these applications
pretty quickly by resuming the open apps on startup/restart.
Harry
- 2c.
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Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 Released
Posted by: "Ken" avlisk@cox.net avliska
Fri Feb 3, 2012 4:32 am (PST)
Yes, this is how I normally do it. On computer startup, I have Safari, iTunes, and Mail set to open at startup. Safari pops open in less than 20 seconds, which is amazing. But then, there's a pause of about 30 to 45 seconds until Mail and iTunes open. Once open, they all work fine. iPhoto won't show me my photos unless I click around in the list of events first, and that's also a change from the old computer. Everything eventually works, even Safari isn't crashing any more with the new computer as it did on the old one, but that's another story.
Ken S.
>
> You mention slow starting apps. Have you tried shutting down with the
> apps running? I find that my machine will start these applications
> pretty quickly by resuming the open apps on startup/restart.
>
> Harry
>
- 2d.
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Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 Released
Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com hflaxman001
Fri Feb 3, 2012 4:35 am (PST)
On 2/3/2012 7:32 AM, Ken wrote:
> Yes, this is how I normally do it. On computer startup, I have Safari, iTunes, and Mail set to open at startup. Safari pops open in less than 20 seconds, which is amazing. But then, there's a pause of about 30 to 45 seconds until Mail and iTunes open. Once open, they all work fine. iPhoto won't show me my photos unless I click around in the list of events first, and that's also a change from the old computer. Everything eventually works, even Safari isn't crashing any more with the new computer as it did on the old one, but that's another story.
> Ken S.
>
>
>> >
>> > You mention slow starting apps. Have you tried shutting down with the
>> > apps running? I find that my machine will start these applications
>> > pretty quickly by resuming the open apps on startup/restart.
>> >
>> > Harry
>> >
It could be that smaller 'helper' apps are opening before the latter. I
use an application called 'startupizer', from the Mac app store that
speeds this process up dramatically. They do have a lite version for
free to try.
You might try using this to see if it helps. The lite version is free,
as I mentioned, so it couldn't hurt.
Harry
- 2e.
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Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 Released
Posted by: "Ken" avlisk@cox.net avliska
Fri Feb 3, 2012 4:49 am (PST)
Among the Login Items are "iTunes helper" and "SpeechSynthesisServer" (and the 3 apps that I want to start up at Login).
Can I just remove those 2 from Login Items? I didn't put them there manually, so I assume my Mac wanted them there for a good reason, so I haven't tried removing them.)
Ken S.
> It could be that smaller 'helper' apps are opening before the latter. I
> use an application called 'startupizer', from the Mac app store that
> speeds this process up dramatically. They do have a lite version for
> free to try.
>
> You might try using this to see if it helps. The lite version is free,
> as I mentioned, so it couldn't hurt.
>
> Harry
>
- 2f.
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Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 Released
Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com hflaxman001
Fri Feb 3, 2012 5:01 am (PST)
On 2/3/2012 7:48 AM, Ken wrote:
> Among the Login Items are "iTunes helper" and "SpeechSynthesisServer" (and the 3 apps that I want to start up at Login).
> Can I just remove those 2 from Login Items? I didn't put them there manually, so I assume my Mac wanted them there for a good reason, so I haven't tried removing them.)
In the past, I have removed the iTunes helper. I don't know how it
would be under 10.7. I would not recommend removing the
SpeechSynthesisServer.
One good point about the app I mentioned before, startupizer, is that it
lets you set a definite order to applications upon startup. Accounts
under System Preferences has not done this in the past.
Harry
- 2g.
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Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 Released
Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com hflaxman001
Fri Feb 3, 2012 5:17 am (PST)
On 2/3/2012 7:48 AM, Ken wrote:
> Among the Login Items are "iTunes helper" and "SpeechSynthesisServer" (and the 3 apps that I want to start up at Login).
> Can I just remove those 2 from Login Items? I didn't put them there manually, so I assume my Mac wanted them there for a good reason, so I haven't tried removing them.)
> Ken S.
One thing I"ve noticed under 10.7, is that the sleepimage file is used
for more than restoring machine state, from a sleep state to wake. I
believe it's also used to restore the machine upon restart.
You may want to delete this file and have the system recreate it.
See the following article:
http://osxdaily.com/2010/ 10/11/sleepimage -mac/
Harry
- 2h.
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Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 Released
Posted by: "Ken" avlisk@cox.net avliska
Fri Feb 3, 2012 5:55 am (PST)
OK. I found Terminal under Utilities applications. When I open it, a window appears with 2 lines of info. Do I type after this or remove any or all of what is there? Here's what appears:
Last login: Fri Feb 3 06:49:31 on ttys000
Kenneths-MacBook-Air:~ ken silva$
Thanks.
Ken S.
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups. , Harry Flaxman <harry.flaxman@com ...> wrote:
>
> On 2/3/2012 7:48 AM, Ken wrote:
> > Among the Login Items are "iTunes helper" and "SpeechSynthesisServer" (and the 3 apps that I want to start up at Login).
> > Can I just remove those 2 from Login Items? I didn't put them there manually, so I assume my Mac wanted them there for a good reason, so I haven't tried removing them.)
> > Ken S.
>
> One thing I"ve noticed under 10.7, is that the sleepimage file is used
> for more than restoring machine state, from a sleep state to wake. I
> believe it's also used to restore the machine upon restart.
>
> You may want to delete this file and have the system recreate it.
>
> See the following article:
>
> http://osxdaily.com/2010/ 10/11/sleepimage -mac/
>
> Harry
>
- 2i.
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Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 Released
Posted by: "Ken" avlisk@cox.net avliska
Fri Feb 3, 2012 5:59 am (PST)
One more thing. I'm using "sleep" to also mean "shut down and restart". The slow loading of applications is occurring after Shut down. The only thing I've noticed after "sleep" is that the cursor won't respond for about 10 seconds. Are both situations due to the same issue that Terminal might fix. I'm a little hesitant to go mucking about in Terminal. That seems a bit over my level.
Ken S.
>
> One thing I"ve noticed under 10.7, is that the sleepimage file is used
> for more than restoring machine state, from a sleep state to wake. I
> believe it's also used to restore the machine upon restart.
>
> You may want to delete this file and have the system recreate it.
>
> See the following article:
>
> http://osxdaily.com/2010/ 10/11/sleepimage -mac/
>
> Harry
>
- 3a.
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Remote desktop recommendation
Posted by: "Ron West" ronwest@gmail.com ronwestb12
Fri Feb 3, 2012 4:39 am (PST)
My Mom got a new iMac so now I'm her tech support... I'll need to be
able to see and take control of her iMac from my house. Does anyone
use any remote desktop software that they can recommend? She has Lion
and I have Snow Leopard.
Thanks much.
- 3b.
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Re: Remote desktop recommendation
Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com randybrucesinger
Fri Feb 3, 2012 5:37 am (PST)
On Feb 3, 2012, at 4:39 AM, Ron West wrote:
> My Mom got a new iMac so now I'm her tech support... I'll need to be
> able to see and take control of her iMac from my house. Does anyone
> use any remote desktop software that they can recommend? She has Lion
> and I have Snow Leopard.
TeamViewer (free for non-commercial use)
http://www.teamviewer.com/index. aspx
TeamViewer is great for remote support of Mac, Windows, even Linux.
It's simple, it's fast, It's stable, and it seems to be very
tenacious about working across slow links & eccentric network setups.
And it even has an iOS & Android versions
_____________________ _________ _________ ____
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts. html
_____________________ _________ _________ ____
- 3c.
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Re: Remote desktop recommendation
Posted by: "Rick Branscomb" ebranscomb@gmail.com ebranscomb
Fri Feb 3, 2012 5:52 am (PST)
Ron, iChat is the simplest. If you both have MobileMe (i.e., the Lion user hasn't upgraded to iCloud yet) you can do it with Back to My Mac. Supposedly, you can do it with Skype (though I've never tried this) and of course there are the VNC Apps (Chicken of the VNC is probably best).
But start with Screen Sharing in iChat--it's worked flawlessly for me.
On Feb 3, 2012, at 7:39 AM, Ron West wrote:
> My Mom got a new iMac so now I'm her tech support... I'll need to be
> able to see and take control of her iMac from my house. Does anyone
> use any remote desktop software that they can recommend? She has Lion
> and I have Snow Leopard.
> Thanks much.
>
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Re: iPhone - iMessage Question
Posted by: "Roger Harris" skunktown@gmail.com robo_booger
Fri Feb 3, 2012 5:16 am (PST)
A certain amount of the confusion here stems from the facts that:
1. Apple has effectively an app within an app - iMessage operates within Messages. The names are so similar that it leads to confusion.
2. Apple has not done a minimalist job of explaining the various facets of the way iMessage operates - including text bubble colors.
3. Apple has allowed an app vendor to sell it's app, known as iMessage on the App Store. THAT seems crazy to me. I believe that is where Dan got caught up - an easy mistake. And furthermore the icon for iMessage is very very similar to the icon for Messages.
Anyhoo, it feels good to finally understand this thing. Thanks to all.
Roger
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups. , Denver Dan <denver.dan@com ...> wrote:
>
> Howdy.
>
> Joan, I think you have stated it all correctly.
>
> And yes, the iMessage app (not from Apple) was pretty sparse and
> inconvenient.
>
> I can't answer your question about using the non Apple iMessage app to
> send free text messages to non iOS devices.
>
> I know that there are a number of texting apps for iOS that can send
> free text messages but I guess checking the App store and reading the
> descriptions would be the only way to discover them.
>
> I suggest doing an internet search for free texting apps. Here's one
> link to start you off.
>
> <http://www.businessinsider.com/ >free-texting- apps-2011- 8
>
> It's a list of 10 free texting apps but not all for iPhone/iOS.
>
> Denver Dan
>
> p.s. Any relation to the early 20th century writer named Sax Rohmer
> who created the character of Dr. Fu Manchu? (oh, well, I just looked
> up Sax Rohmer and it was a pen name. :-( )
>
>
> On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 15:41:58 -0500, Joan B Sax Ph.D. wrote:
> > So, to recapitulate (and to see if I understand the substance of this
> > topic), the iPhone has a built-in (in iOS5 that is) feature called
> > iMessage, found under Settings/Messages that can be turned on. And
> > if you turn that iMessage feature on, AND, if someone you know with
> > an iPhone also has it turned on, messages between those two iPhones
> > will not count as part of the message limit set by your AT&T
> > contract. If, on the other hand, the person to whom you sent messages
> > or from whom you receive messages (and who has iOS5) does not have
> > the iMessage feature turned on, then messages to and from said iPhone
> > will count in the message number limit that you have paid AT&T for.
> > The built-in iPhone feature is not to be confused with the iMessage
> > app found in iTunes app store (that go very poor reviews, by the
> > way), although from the description, it seems to do the same thing
> > (when it works, that is).
> > Now, here is one further question, if you send a message to a non
> > iOS5 phone (android or whatever) the message will be counted in the
> > limit of messages set by your contract with AT&T. But, can the
> > iMessage app available in the iTunes app store be used by a
> > non-iPhone device and, if so, will the result be similar to the
> > situation where two iPhones with the installed iMessage feature
> > turned on, namely that messages between your iPhone and the
> > non-iPhone will not be counted in the message limit you have?
> >
> > Joan, who may have muddied the waters even further.
>
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Re: More on extended-ASCII characters in Mail app
Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com todhop
Fri Feb 3, 2012 5:48 am (PST)
Intriguing. I had to select "Central European Windows Latin 2" (the one he specified) to get Oneal's email to display correctly.
Conclusion. The outgoing setting was indeed used for the composition. The email, as sent, did NOT include any notation for character set, just "plain/text" (I looked) so my client used it's default to interpret (presumably "Mac OS Mail"). Once I specified the correct character set, the mail displayed correctly.
I suspect that "Mac OS Mail" is UTF-8 with possibly some Mac OS Latin exceptions to accommodate Mac users.
Cheers,
tod
On Feb 2, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Oneal Neumann wrote:
>
>> On 2012 January 31 (at 04:46) Alan Fry wrote:
>>> On 29 Jan 2012, at 07:37, Oneal Neumann wrote:
>>>
>>> Mail > Message > Text Encoding presumably effects incoming emails, however selecting UTF-8 seems to do nothing to ameliorate incoming weirdnesses.
>>
>> No, it is actually the other way round, Mail->Message->Text sets the character encoding for composing the message. If you leave it set to 'Automatic' and use 'Rich Text', Mail.app will always choose utf-8. which is the best option. The only reason for setting something else would be if you >know< the recipient cannot handle utf-8 and needs a specific character encoding. Alan Fry
>
>
>
> Automatic
> Western (ISO Latin 1)
> Western (Windows Latin 1)
> Western (Mac OS Roman)
> Western (Mac Mail)
> —————————————————
> Central European (ISO Latin 2)
> Central European (Windows Latin 2)
> —————————————————
> Unicode (UTF-8)
>
>
> Sorry Alan, your assertion that Text Encoding only pertains to outgoing emails is incorrect.
>
> Going to Mail > Message > Text Encoding, one sees the above list. When one opens a blank email in Apple Mail, lines 4 and 5 are paled, meaning that those modes are not accessible to outgoing emails.
>
> On the other hand, all incoming emails can access all eight modes. None is paled.
>
> The following is from Mail Help:
>
> [TITLE] If a message contains unexpected characters:
>
> When you receive a message, Mail uses information in the message to determine its text encoding. If the incoming message doesn't identify its text encoding, some characters may be displayed incorrectly.
>
> If the characters don't appear correctly, choose Message > Text Encoding, and then choose an encoding you think might display them correctly.
>
> Your point about Mail always selecting UTF-8 may be true, however that probably has nothing to do with anything I've done or can do, perhaps aside from choosing Rich Text.
>
> For your point to be valid, Text Encoding (for outgoing emails) should be found here: Mail > Preferences > Composing > Composing. This is where the choice for Rich Text is located.
>
> Just for a (laugh) test, I selected line 7 during this writing. (I couldn't get line 6 to work.) As soon as I got my email back from Outbox, the encoding 'selection' reverted to line 1.
>
> No selected outgoing encoding remained selected as such. All reverted to Automatic, which means that Text Encoding only pertains to incoming emails. No 'outgoing selection' sticks.
>
> Finally, the fact that Text Encoding exists in a Message-menu section that contains nothing other than Remove Attachments is the final clue that TE only deals with incoming emails.
>
> Thanx. Oneal
>
>
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Re: More on extended-ASCII characters in Mail app
Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com todhop
Fri Feb 3, 2012 6:04 am (PST)
What I read online from trusted sources...
Apple Mail uses "mixed character sets" for outgoing mail based on the users language settings in Preferences and the precedence therein (you can have more than one language). You can force the default character set to UTF-8 using a terminal command and you can set an individual outgoing mail as we have discussed, but indeed, this does not stick.
However, Wikipedia states the Mac OSX changed the default character set of the OS to UTF-8 with the keyboard properly mapped to the original "Mac OS Roman" characters.
I suspect this is not perfect across all languages and keyboard settings.
Cheers,
tod
On Feb 2, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Oneal Neumann wrote:
>
>> On 2012 January 31 (at 04:46) Alan Fry wrote:
>>> On 29 Jan 2012, at 07:37, Oneal Neumann wrote:
>>>
>>> Mail > Message > Text Encoding presumably effects incoming emails, however selecting UTF-8 seems to do nothing to ameliorate incoming weirdnesses.
>>
>> No, it is actually the other way round, Mail->Message->Text sets the character encoding for composing the message. If you leave it set to 'Automatic' and use 'Rich Text', Mail.app will always choose utf-8. which is the best option. The only reason for setting something else would be if you >know< the recipient cannot handle utf-8 and needs a specific character encoding. Alan Fry
>
>
>
> Automatic
> Western (ISO Latin 1)
> Western (Windows Latin 1)
> Western (Mac OS Roman)
> Western (Mac Mail)
> —————————————————
> Central European (ISO Latin 2)
> Central European (Windows Latin 2)
> —————————————————
> Unicode (UTF-8)
>
>
> Sorry Alan, your assertion that Text Encoding only pertains to outgoing emails is incorrect.
>
> Going to Mail > Message > Text Encoding, one sees the above list. When one opens a blank email in Apple Mail, lines 4 and 5 are paled, meaning that those modes are not accessible to outgoing emails.
>
> On the other hand, all incoming emails can access all eight modes. None is paled.
>
> The following is from Mail Help:
>
> [TITLE] If a message contains unexpected characters:
>
> When you receive a message, Mail uses information in the message to determine its text encoding. If the incoming message doesn't identify its text encoding, some characters may be displayed incorrectly.
>
> If the characters don't appear correctly, choose Message > Text Encoding, and then choose an encoding you think might display them correctly.
>
> Your point about Mail always selecting UTF-8 may be true, however that probably has nothing to do with anything I've done or can do, perhaps aside from choosing Rich Text.
>
> For your point to be valid, Text Encoding (for outgoing emails) should be found here: Mail > Preferences > Composing > Composing. This is where the choice for Rich Text is located.
>
> Just for a (laugh) test, I selected line 7 during this writing. (I couldn't get line 6 to work.) As soon as I got my email back from Outbox, the encoding 'selection' reverted to line 1.
>
> No selected outgoing encoding remained selected as such. All reverted to Automatic, which means that Text Encoding only pertains to incoming emails. No 'outgoing selection' sticks.
>
> Finally, the fact that Text Encoding exists in a Message-menu section that contains nothing other than Remove Attachments is the final clue that TE only deals with incoming emails.
>
> Thanx. Oneal
>
>
>
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