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Fresh Install of Mtn Lion on new SSD More Difficult Than I Thought by "Nick Andriash" andriash2005
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Fri Oct 5, 2012 10:36 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Linda Weidemann" thinkblackink
On 10/5/12 11:05 AM, Doug Yelmen wrote:
> my sister wants a copy, or an original of my snow leopard disks, so
> she can update her iTunes for the iPhone her son gave her. my concern
> is i will lose one of the five legal iTune "Audible Accounts." i am
> not greedy, but what if someone borrows a copy i send her (assuming it
> can be copied/backed-up, which i think it can), and i eventually do
> not have another account for a, say, new mac pro in a few years???
Doug,
Your iTunes authorization are tied to your AppleID, not to your
installation discs. So, if you lend your discs to your sister, she will
need to have or create her own AppleID to log in to the App
Store/iTunes. The discs do not need your login nor your iTunes
authorization to work for her; they are not "keyed" to your AppleID.
Hope this helps.
~Linda
> my sister wants a copy, or an original of my snow leopard disks, so
> she can update her iTunes for the iPhone her son gave her. my concern
> is i will lose one of the five legal iTune "Audible Accounts." i am
> not greedy, but what if someone borrows a copy i send her (assuming it
> can be copied/backed-
> not have another account for a, say, new mac pro in a few years???
Doug,
Your iTunes authorization are tied to your AppleID, not to your
installation discs. So, if you lend your discs to your sister, she will
need to have or create her own AppleID to log in to the App
Store/iTunes. The discs do not need your login nor your iTunes
authorization to work for her; they are not "keyed" to your AppleID.
Hope this helps.
~Linda
Fri Oct 5, 2012 1:57 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen
Linda,
your email helped 100%.
big thanks.
doug
Doug Yelmen
dougyelmen@earthlink.net
I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
On Oct 5, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Linda Weidemann <XPressoBean@mac.com > wrote:
> On 10/5/12 11:05 AM, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>> my sister wants a copy, or an original of my snow leopard disks, so
>> she can update her iTunes for the iPhone her son gave her. my concern
>> is i will lose one of the five legal iTune "Audible Accounts." i am
>> not greedy, but what if someone borrows a copy i send her (assuming it
>> can be copied/backed-up, which i think it can), and i eventually do
>> not have another account for a, say, new mac pro in a few years???
> Doug,
>
> Your iTunes authorization are tied to your AppleID, not to your
> installation discs. So, if you lend your discs to your sister, she will
> need to have or create her own AppleID to log in to the App
> Store/iTunes. The discs do not need your login nor your iTunes
> authorization to work for her; they are not "keyed" to your AppleID.
> Hope this helps.
>
> ~Linda
>
>
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your email helped 100%.
big thanks.
doug
Doug Yelmen
dougyelmen@earthlin
I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
On Oct 5, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Linda Weidemann <XPressoBean@
> On 10/5/12 11:05 AM, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>> my sister wants a copy, or an original of my snow leopard disks, so
>> she can update her iTunes for the iPhone her son gave her. my concern
>> is i will lose one of the five legal iTune "Audible Accounts." i am
>> not greedy, but what if someone borrows a copy i send her (assuming it
>> can be copied/backed-
>> not have another account for a, say, new mac pro in a few years???
> Doug,
>
> Your iTunes authorization are tied to your AppleID, not to your
> installation discs. So, if you lend your discs to your sister, she will
> need to have or create her own AppleID to log in to the App
> Store/iTunes. The discs do not need your login nor your iTunes
> authorization to work for her; they are not "keyed" to your AppleID.
> Hope this helps.
>
> ~Linda
>
>
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>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsuppo
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Fri Oct 5, 2012 8:00 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Carol" were_koala
My external hard drive is a Mercury Elite from OWC, purchased in 2009. (It replaced a LaCie that lasted only a year.) Used with a MacBook Pro, OS 10.7.5 (my 5th Mac since 1987).
When I tried to do the latest backup, I was able to copy a small folder, but it said that my large documents folder "can't be copied because there isn't enough free space." I trashed the older backups but still get the same message.
I don't know how much of the external drive is in use; "view as icons" used to give a message at the bottom of the window but it doesn't any more.
Questions:
(1) Do I just need to defragment the external drive? If so, how? Is there something else I can do to save the drive?
(2) If I can't save the external drive, what are the pros and cons of a new external drive vs. off-site backup? (Besides the obvious, that if my house burned down, my computer and external drive could both be lost.)
(3) If I choose a new external drive, would another Mercury Elite be the best choice? If not, what do you recommend?
(4) If I decide to use off-site backup, what do you recommend? Is Dropbox safe for backup?
Any suggestions appreciated. adTHANKSvance!
When I tried to do the latest backup, I was able to copy a small folder, but it said that my large documents folder "can't be copied because there isn't enough free space." I trashed the older backups but still get the same message.
I don't know how much of the external drive is in use; "view as icons" used to give a message at the bottom of the window but it doesn't any more.
Questions:
(1) Do I just need to defragment the external drive? If so, how? Is there something else I can do to save the drive?
(2) If I can't save the external drive, what are the pros and cons of a new external drive vs. off-site backup? (Besides the obvious, that if my house burned down, my computer and external drive could both be lost.)
(3) If I choose a new external drive, would another Mercury Elite be the best choice? If not, what do you recommend?
(4) If I decide to use off-site backup, what do you recommend? Is Dropbox safe for backup?
Any suggestions appreciated. adTHANKSvance!
Fri Oct 5, 2012 9:03 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
> My external hard drive is a Mercury Elite from OWC, purchased in 2009. (It replaced a LaCie that lasted only a year.) Used with a MacBook Pro, OS 10.7.5 (my 5th Mac since 1987).
>
> When I tried to do the latest backup, I was able to copy a small folder, but it said that my large documents folder "can't be copied because there isn't enough free space." I trashed the older backups but still get the same message.
>
> I don't know how much of the external drive is in use; "view as icons" used to give a message at the bottom of the window but it doesn't any more.
1. Click on the drive icon itself on the desktop, and do a "Get Info" on it (<Command><i>)
This will give you total drive size, and free space.
> (1) Do I just need to defragment the external drive? If so, how? Is there something else I can do to save the drive?
This depends on, among other things, just how much free space there is; but it may also depends on how fragmented THE FREE SPACE is.
If you seem to have 10% or more of the total size in free space (100 GB out of 1 TB), you could look into simply defragmenting the free space.
> (2) If I can't save the external drive, what are the pros and cons of a new external drive vs. off-site backup? (Besides the obvious, that if my house burned down, my computer and external drive could both be lost.)
For most of us, the two most likely events that would cause us to go to a backup are hard drive failure and deleting important files or folders. Neither of these needs off-site backup.
Fire, theft, and the like, for most of us, are WAY down the list of likely events.
You have to assess the risks for yourself.
> (3) If I choose a new external drive, would another Mercury Elite be the best choice? If not, what do you recommend?
For me, I would probably get another OWC drive, perhaps the same, perhaps a different model.
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
>
> When I tried to do the latest backup, I was able to copy a small folder, but it said that my large documents folder "can't be copied because there isn't enough free space." I trashed the older backups but still get the same message.
>
> I don't know how much of the external drive is in use; "view as icons" used to give a message at the bottom of the window but it doesn't any more.
1. Click on the drive icon itself on the desktop, and do a "Get Info" on it (<Command><i>
This will give you total drive size, and free space.
> (1) Do I just need to defragment the external drive? If so, how? Is there something else I can do to save the drive?
This depends on, among other things, just how much free space there is; but it may also depends on how fragmented THE FREE SPACE is.
If you seem to have 10% or more of the total size in free space (100 GB out of 1 TB), you could look into simply defragmenting the free space.
> (2) If I can't save the external drive, what are the pros and cons of a new external drive vs. off-site backup? (Besides the obvious, that if my house burned down, my computer and external drive could both be lost.)
For most of us, the two most likely events that would cause us to go to a backup are hard drive failure and deleting important files or folders. Neither of these needs off-site backup.
Fire, theft, and the like, for most of us, are WAY down the list of likely events.
You have to assess the risks for yourself.
> (3) If I choose a new external drive, would another Mercury Elite be the best choice? If not, what do you recommend?
For me, I would probably get another OWC drive, perhaps the same, perhaps a different model.
--
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
Fri Oct 5, 2012 9:34 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Andrew Buc" andrewbuc
On Oct 5, 2012, at 8:00 PM, Carol wrote:
>
> (2) If I can't save the external drive, what are the pros and cons
> of a new external drive vs. off-site backup? (Besides the obvious,
> that if my house burned down, my computer and external drive could
> both be lost.)
>
I've used OWC Mercury On-the-Go drives for the last few years
because, unlike the Elite, they're compact enough to fit in a safe
deposit box. Granted, the chance of losing both house and drive to
fire or naturaly disaster is slim, but I say better safe than sorry.
>
> (3) If I choose a new external drive, would another Mercury Elite
> be the best choice? If not, what do you recommend?
>
When I got my my latest OWC drive, I found that it wasn't bootable,
unlike past ones. If you don't need your drive to be bootable, this
won't be an issue for you. I use SuperDuper to clone my entire drive
to an external drive. I get the impression that you copy only
selected folders.
I also got a Wiebetech DriveDock, into which I can plug a bare hard
drive:
http://www.wiebetech.com/
The advantage is that I can choose bare drives of any brand,
capacity, or size I want, and I don't have to pay for an enclosure
with every drive. They also take up less space in the safe deposit
box than a drive in an enclosure. The DriveDock lets you boot from
any drive that has the OS installed on it, so this puts the
bootability issue to bed once and for all.
>
> (4) If I decide to use off-site backup, what do you recommend? Is
> Dropbox safe for backup?
>
On this point, the voice of no experience will be quiet! :)
>
> (2) If I can't save the external drive, what are the pros and cons
> of a new external drive vs. off-site backup? (Besides the obvious,
> that if my house burned down, my computer and external drive could
> both be lost.)
>
I've used OWC Mercury On-the-Go drives for the last few years
because, unlike the Elite, they're compact enough to fit in a safe
deposit box. Granted, the chance of losing both house and drive to
fire or naturaly disaster is slim, but I say better safe than sorry.
>
> (3) If I choose a new external drive, would another Mercury Elite
> be the best choice? If not, what do you recommend?
>
When I got my my latest OWC drive, I found that it wasn't bootable,
unlike past ones. If you don't need your drive to be bootable, this
won't be an issue for you. I use SuperDuper to clone my entire drive
to an external drive. I get the impression that you copy only
selected folders.
I also got a Wiebetech DriveDock, into which I can plug a bare hard
drive:
http://www.wiebetec
The advantage is that I can choose bare drives of any brand,
capacity, or size I want, and I don't have to pay for an enclosure
with every drive. They also take up less space in the safe deposit
box than a drive in an enclosure. The DriveDock lets you boot from
any drive that has the OS installed on it, so this puts the
bootability issue to bed once and for all.
>
> (4) If I decide to use off-site backup, what do you recommend? Is
> Dropbox safe for backup?
>
On this point, the voice of no experience will be quiet! :)
Sat Oct 6, 2012 7:22 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Daly Jessup" dalyjessup
On Oct 5, 2012, at 8:00 PM, Carol wrote:
> My external hard drive is a Mercury Elite from OWC, purchased in 2009. (It replaced a LaCie that lasted only a year.) Used with a MacBook Pro, OS 10.7.5 (my 5th Mac since 1987).
>
> When I tried to do the latest backup, I was able to copy a small folder, but it said that my large documents folder "can't be copied because there isn't enough free space." I trashed the older backups but still get the same message.
Did you empty the trash while the drive was connected? If not, you should.
Daly
Sat Oct 6, 2012 8:06 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"David Putman" david_c_mac
When I got my last OWC drive it mentioned reformatting the drive. You can easily reformat a drive including flash drives using the Mac's disk utility. I also partition my 32 GB flash drives using disk utilities
David
1st Gen iPad
On Oct 5, 2012, at 9:34 PM, Andrew Buc <andrewbuc@staxman.net > wrote:
> When I got my my latest OWC drive, I found that it wasn't bootable,
> unlike past ones. If you don't need your drive to be bootable, this
> won't be an issue for you. I use SuperDuper to clone my entire drive
> to an external drive. I get the impression that you copy only
> selected folders.
David
1st Gen iPad
On Oct 5, 2012, at 9:34 PM, Andrew Buc <andrewbuc@staxman.
> When I got my my latest OWC drive, I found that it wasn't bootable,
> unlike past ones. If you don't need your drive to be bootable, this
> won't be an issue for you. I use SuperDuper to clone my entire drive
> to an external drive. I get the impression that you copy only
> selected folders.
Fri Oct 5, 2012 9:42 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Nick Andriash" andriash2005
Today I installed my brand new 512GB SSD from Crucial. Had wanted a fresh install of Mtn Lion, but that turned out to be difficult. As a result, I resorted to a restore of my most recent Time Machine backup, which completed just fine.
Changing out the drives was simple and quick. I then inserted my formatted USB Drive, held down the Option key, and re-started my laptop. So far so good, and I was asked which drive I wanted to install Mtn Lion on, but the problem was that my new SSD was not listed as one of the options, so I took out the new drive and re-inserted my old SSD.
When I ordered the new drive, I ordered the one that came with a Data Recovery Kit, which included a CD and a nifty little adapter that attached to your drive, with a short USB cable on the other end. I attached the adapter to the new drive, plugged in the USB end, and then opened Disk Utility. I then realized that the new drive was never formatted, so I thought I had found the problem as to why the new drive never showed as an option when I wanted to install a fresh copy of Mtn Lion. I quickly reformatted the new drive, then re-installed it in my laptop, then re-started and held down the option key. Still, the new drive was not showing as an option to install Mtn Lion.
However, it did show as an option if I chose to install a Time Machine backup, so that is what I did, and the restore process was quick and effortless. In the end, I have a new 512 GB SSD and am happily continuing with my computing. Still, I have to wonder why the new drive was never available to me as a destination option for a fresh install of OSX 10.8.2.
Any ideas if I missed something along the way? Why did the new SSD not show as an option?
--
Nick Andriash
andriash@telus.net
17" MacBook Pro, 2.3GHz Intel Core i7, Memory 16 GB, OS X 10.8.2
AMD Radeon HD 6750M 1024 MB
iPad2 WiFi & 3G, 64GB
iPhone4S 32GB
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Changing out the drives was simple and quick. I then inserted my formatted USB Drive, held down the Option key, and re-started my laptop. So far so good, and I was asked which drive I wanted to install Mtn Lion on, but the problem was that my new SSD was not listed as one of the options, so I took out the new drive and re-inserted my old SSD.
When I ordered the new drive, I ordered the one that came with a Data Recovery Kit, which included a CD and a nifty little adapter that attached to your drive, with a short USB cable on the other end. I attached the adapter to the new drive, plugged in the USB end, and then opened Disk Utility. I then realized that the new drive was never formatted, so I thought I had found the problem as to why the new drive never showed as an option when I wanted to install a fresh copy of Mtn Lion. I quickly reformatted the new drive, then re-installed it in my laptop, then re-started and held down the option key. Still, the new drive was not showing as an option to install Mtn Lion.
However, it did show as an option if I chose to install a Time Machine backup, so that is what I did, and the restore process was quick and effortless. In the end, I have a new 512 GB SSD and am happily continuing with my computing. Still, I have to wonder why the new drive was never available to me as a destination option for a fresh install of OSX 10.8.2.
Any ideas if I missed something along the way? Why did the new SSD not show as an option?
--
Nick Andriash
andriash@telus.
17" MacBook Pro, 2.3GHz Intel Core i7, Memory 16 GB, OS X 10.8.2
AMD Radeon HD 6750M 1024 MB
iPad2 WiFi & 3G, 64GB
iPhone4S 32GB
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Sat Oct 6, 2012 8:27 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"jrswebhome" jrswebhome
It seems to offer games for Mac, but the text on the site is awkward. Is this a phishing scam inside a game store? jr
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