10/09/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 9163

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Digest #9163
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Re: Is there a way to disable MAIL? by "Denver Dan" denverdan22180
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Re: sleepimage   17GBs of it by "Chris Jones" bobstermcbob
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Re: sleepimage   17GBs of it by "Chris Jones" bobstermcbob
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Re: sleepimage   17GBs of it by "John Engberg" mrmacbyte
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Re: sleepimage 17GBs of it by "Bill Boulware" boulware0224
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Re: called apple by "N.A. Nada"
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Re: called apple by "Chris Jones" bobstermcbob
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free email account by "N.A. Nada"

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Tue Oct 9, 2012 7:43 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Howdy.

Yahoo Mail is "web mail" which means there is no "client" application
for it. Web mail is accessed via a web browser program.

However, I suggest that you would probably be happier using Apple's
Mail application, or other mail app, for your Yahoo web mail and there
are several ways you can do this.

If you choose one of these methods and set it up, then you can read
your mail, respond to your mail, create new mail, create mailbox rules
to filter your mail into special inboxes of your own choosing, have a
secondary buffer to filter out spam, and more. You would not have to
login to your web mail each time you want to check messages. Your
Apple Mail program can check for messages and download them
automatically.

One of the convenient things you could do is to create a "Rule" that
filters all incoming messages and if the Rule finds one from
MacSupportCentral it will move it to a dedicated mailbox just for
MacSupportCentral. Really helps to reduce confusion!!

This is how I read your messages in MacSupportCentral and how I
respond. Except I use an email client named GyazMail instead of
Apple's Mail client program.

In any case, do not delete the Apple Mail program since it has the easy
way, in preferences, to designate your preferred email program.

Here's some suggestions.

1. Use POP.
In Yahoo Mail, activate and then set up Yahoo to do what is called POP
or POP3. POP is an email "type of account" thing. This requires
something called Mail Plus and Yahoo charges about $2.00 USD a month
for this service. Google's Gmail does POP free with no monthly
charge.

Here are some basic directions for getting this method started.

<http://www.ehow.com/how_6518718_set-up-pop3-yahoo-mail.html>

Yahoo's Mail Plus is how you turn on POP3. Having this email feature
enabled in Yahoo Mail means you can then create a new email account in
Apple's Mail for your Yahoo Mail. Get it set up and Mail will start
to check and download mail.

POP means that after the local client email program checks in for new
messages with Yahoo, then downloads them, the messages will be erased
from the Yahoo mail server.

2. Use the "Forward" feature in Yahoo Groups to forward messages to a
Google Gmail account.

This suggestion is for an easy way to deal with Yahoo groups email and
to respond to it. It's not for just plain email messages directly to
your Yahoo email address.

Create a free Google Gmail email account. This is also web mail.
However, in Gmail you can turn on the POP feature as part of the free
service. Then create an email account in your Apple Mail program for
this new Google Gmail account.

Next, access Yahoo Groups via your web browser and log in.

Click Edit My Groups.

Set the email address for each Group, in the Email Address column, to
your new Google Gmail address.

Every time a messages comes in to the Yahoo MacSupportCentral Group (or
other Group) it will be forwarded to your Gmail account. Your Apple
Mail program Gmail account will then download the message for you to
read, respond, delete, in Apple Mail.

I have several of my Yahoo groups set to forward to my Verizon email
account also including the MacSupportCentral group. So this particular
group, for me, is set to forward to my account at Verizon named
denver.dan@verizon.net. My email client program then downloads it for
me.

- - - - -

If this seems too new or confusing, there's a good trick that helps
me. Access this stuff, if you decide, to do one or the other
suggestion, and loot at the various screens and check boxes. Then just
back out without making any changes. Access again the next day or so
and that 2nd visit to these settings always seems to make more sense
after the flood of new info has had some time to sort of gel in the
mind.

Good luck!

Denver Dan

On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 18:08:16 +0000, neelie wrote:
> I do not use the MAIL program that came with my iMac. I use Yahoo
> mail. I am using OS 10.6.8 and have no plans to update in the near
> future.
>
> Many times when I click on a "send email" link within a webpage, that
> automatically starts opening the MAIL program, which I do not want to
> use. Then I have to force quit the MAIL program because it wants to
> start downloading all my Yahoo mail files.
>
> Is there a way to disable the MAIL program? Or do I have to delete it?
> If I did delete MAIL, would that affect my access to my Yahoo mail
> folders and data?
>
> Thanks!

Tue Oct 9, 2012 7:51 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"ElissaW" pielet12

Hi there,

I have a disc drive that can't seem to read discs anymore. I wanted to burn photos from this laptop to a disc. I do have another laptop, so I was wondering if it's possible to hook the laptops together and burn the images without putting the pics on the 2nd computer (it's a lot of pics).

Thanks!

Elisa

Tue Oct 9, 2012 7:53 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"ElissaW" pielet12

One clarification, that may or may not be relevant:

The disc drive on the 1st one can read audio discs, but when I put in a blank disc to burn onto, it makes some noises and then spits it out without any error mesages.

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "ElissaW" <pielet12@...> wrote:
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> Hi there,
>
> I have a disc drive that can't seem to read discs anymore. I wanted to burn photos from this laptop to a disc. I do have another laptop, so I was wondering if it's possible to hook the laptops together and burn the images without putting the pics on the 2nd computer (it's a lot of pics).
>
> Thanks!
>
> Elisa
>

Tue Oct 9, 2012 9:32 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

Are they both Macs? System Preferences > Sharing > DVD or CD Sharing allows
another Mac to use the drive, although I don't know if it allows burning.

Otto

On 9 October 2012 15:51, ElissaW <pielet12@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> I have a disc drive that can't seem to read discs anymore. I wanted to
> burn photos from this laptop to a disc. I do have another laptop, so I was
> wondering if it's possible to hook the laptops together and burn the images
> without putting the pics on the 2nd computer (it's a lot of pics).
>

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Tue Oct 9, 2012 8:04 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Chris Jones" bobstermcbob

Hi,

How much ram do you have ? If you have more than 2GB then who ever you
spoke to doesn't really know what they are talking about. It will be as
large as it needs to be to hold an image of what your machine had in
ram. If you have more than 2GB ram, it will be bigger, basically, the
size of your installed ram.

Chris

On 09/10/12 15:11, Doug Yelmen wrote:
> i talk to a senior advisor at apple. she walked me through it the terminal commands. she said it ought to no more than 2 GBs, and to call
> back if it got bigger. that doesn't sound like it is just supposed to be that way. plus, it is new. i know exactly how much space was taken
> up, after all, it is a 120 GB SSD. i have been real careful about what i put on it.
> i don't recommend playing with it either. but, i had apple do it for me. to no avail. so far.
>
> thanks for the input, tho.
>
> doug
> Doug Yelmen
> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>
> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>
> On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:30 AM, N.A. Nada<whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Doug, from the sound of it, it is part of the OS. I'm guessing you found it in a hidden folder. That is why Apple hid it, so people would not play with it and other things.
>>
>> That and the next OS upgrade will probably reinstall it if you delete the ability of the system to create it.
>>
>> KISS, Keep It Simple Sam. Or in other words, the more you modify your system, the more problems you probably will encounter, and the harder it will be to troubleshoot.
>>
>> Brent
>>
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>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 8:29 AM, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>
>> thanks, Mike.
>> the page Tim put in his reply is the same page i used to try to get rid of it.
>> http://osxdaily.com/2010/10/11/sleepimage-mac/
>> i might call Apple.
>> doug
>> Doug Yelmen
>> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>>
>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 7:43 AM, mpstupinski@snet.net wrote:
>>
>>> Doug,
>>>
>>> For me and any others not aware of it, what the heck is sleepimage? 17GB of ANYTHING that shouldn't be there sounds like a major problem!
>>>
>>> ...........Mike
>>>
>>> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Doug Yelmen<dougyelmen@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> i suddenly inherited 17GBs of sleepimage. i've read it can be gotten rid of. i entered the command line i read from some guy off of google.
>>>> but it came back. it wasn't there until recently?
>>>> can someone tell me how to get rid of it. it is important (to me) because it is on my only 120GB SSD. (i shoulda)
>>>> thanks,
>>>>
>>>> doug
>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>> dougyelmen@...
>>>>
>>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>>>
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Tue Oct 9, 2012 8:07 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Chris Jones" bobstermcbob

On 09/10/12 15:08, Doug Yelmen wrote:
> i don't understand.

Its not rocket science... The sleepimage file is only created if and
when the system needs it. When it hiberates. If it wasn't there before,
then your machine had never needed to make it beforehad.

> Doug Yelmen
> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>
> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>
> On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Chris Jones<jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 08/10/12 17:23, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>> my point is it was never there at 17GBs before last week.
>>
>> you probably then hadn't done whatever was needed to create it, like
>> hibernate.
>>
>>> doug
>>> Doug Yelmen
>>> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>>>
>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 8:32 AM, Chris Jones<jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 08/10/12 16:29, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>>>> thanks, Mike.
>>>>> the page Tim put in his reply is the same page i used to try to get rid of it.
>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2010/10/11/sleepimage-mac/
>>>>> i might call Apple.
>>>>
>>>> What do you expect them to say.... This file is *needed* when your
>>>> machine is put to sleep. You can delete it if you want, but it will
>>>> always comeback eventually, unless you never put your machine to sleep
>>>> again... I'm afraid but you are just going to have to accept it I think.
>>>>
>>>> cheers Chris
>>>>
>>>>> doug
>>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>>> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 7:43 AM, mpstupinski@snet.net wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Doug,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For me and any others not aware of it, what the heck is sleepimage? 17GB of ANYTHING that shouldn't be there sounds like a major problem!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...........Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Doug Yelmen<dougyelmen@...> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i suddenly inherited 17GBs of sleepimage. i've read it can be gotten rid of. i entered the command line i read from some guy off of google.
>>>>>>> but it came back. it wasn't there until recently?
>>>>>>> can someone tell me how to get rid of it. it is important (to me) because it is on my only 120GB SSD. (i shoulda)
>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> doug
>>>>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>>>>> dougyelmen@...
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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Tue Oct 9, 2012 8:41 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"John Engberg" mrmacbyte

I believe that a sleep image is never created if you do not let your hard drive sleep.

John Engberg

On Oct 9, 2012, at 11:07 AM, Chris Jones <jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> On 09/10/12 15:08, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>> i don't understand.
>
> Its not rocket science... The sleepimage file is only created if and
> when the system needs it. When it hiberates. If it wasn't there before,
> then your machine had never needed to make it beforehad.
>
>> Doug Yelmen
>> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>>
>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Chris Jones<jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 08/10/12 17:23, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>>> my point is it was never there at 17GBs before last week.
>>>
>>> you probably then hadn't done whatever was needed to create it, like
>>> hibernate.
>>>
>>>> doug
>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>>>>
>>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 8:32 AM, Chris Jones<jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 08/10/12 16:29, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>>>>> thanks, Mike.
>>>>>> the page Tim put in his reply is the same page i used to try to get rid of it.
>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2010/10/11/sleepimage-mac/
>>>>>> i might call Apple.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you expect them to say.... This file is *needed* when your
>>>>> machine is put to sleep. You can delete it if you want, but it will
>>>>> always comeback eventually, unless you never put your machine to sleep
>>>>> again... I'm afraid but you are just going to have to accept it I think.
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>> doug
>>>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>>>> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 7:43 AM, mpstupinski@snet.net wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Doug,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For me and any others not aware of it, what the heck is sleepimage? 17GB of ANYTHING that shouldn't be there sounds like a major problem!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...........Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Doug Yelmen<dougyelmen@...> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i suddenly inherited 17GBs of sleepimage. i've read it can be gotten rid of. i entered the command line i read from some guy off of google.
>>>>>>>> but it came back. it wasn't there until recently?
>>>>>>>> can someone tell me how to get rid of it. it is important (to me) because it is on my only 120GB SSD. (i shoulda)
>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> doug
>>>>>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>>>>>> dougyelmen@...
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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Tue Oct 9, 2012 8:44 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Bill Boulware" boulware0224

You can set the sleep image type either to write, not write, write only if
hibernate, etc - google turning off sleep image - there is a command line
code you enter, I did it on both of my MB Airs to prevent the writing of a
sleep image each time.

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 11:41 AM, John Engberg <mrbyte@earthlink.net> wrote:

> **
>
>
> I believe that a sleep image is never created if you do not let your hard
> drive sleep.
>
> John Engberg
>
>
> On Oct 9, 2012, at 11:07 AM, Chris Jones <jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> > On 09/10/12 15:08, Doug Yelmen wrote:
> >> i don't understand.
> >
> > Its not rocket science... The sleepimage file is only created if and
> > when the system needs it. When it hiberates. If it wasn't there before,
> > then your machine had never needed to make it beforehad.
> >
> >> Doug Yelmen
> >> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
> >>
> >> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~
> Henri Matisse
> >>
> >> On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Chris Jones<jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 08/10/12 17:23, Doug Yelmen wrote:
> >>>> my point is it was never there at 17GBs before last week.
> >>>
> >>> you probably then hadn't done whatever was needed to create it, like
> >>> hibernate.
> >>>
> >>>> doug
> >>>> Doug Yelmen
> >>>> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~
> Henri Matisse
> >>>>
> >>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 8:32 AM, Chris Jones<jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 08/10/12 16:29, Doug Yelmen wrote:
> >>>>>> thanks, Mike.
> >>>>>> the page Tim put in his reply is the same page i used to try to get
> rid of it.
> >>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2010/10/11/sleepimage-mac/
> >>>>>> i might call Apple.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What do you expect them to say.... This file is *needed* when your
> >>>>> machine is put to sleep. You can delete it if you want, but it will
> >>>>> always comeback eventually, unless you never put your machine to
> sleep
> >>>>> again... I'm afraid but you are just going to have to accept it I
> think.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> cheers Chris
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> doug
> >>>>>> Doug Yelmen
> >>>>>> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things."
> ~ Henri Matisse
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 7:43 AM, mpstupinski@snet.net wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Doug,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> For me and any others not aware of it, what the heck is
> sleepimage? 17GB of ANYTHING that shouldn't be there sounds like a major
> problem!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ...........Mike
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Doug Yelmen<dougyelmen@...>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> i suddenly inherited 17GBs of sleepimage. i've read it can be
> gotten rid of. i entered the command line i read from some guy off of
> google.
> >>>>>>>> but it came back. it wasn't there until recently?
> >>>>>>>> can someone tell me how to get rid of it. it is important (to me)
> because it is on my only 120GB SSD. (i shoulda)
> >>>>>>>> thanks,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> doug
> >>>>>>>> Doug Yelmen
> >>>>>>>> dougyelmen@...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between
> things." ~ Henri Matisse
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Tue Oct 9, 2012 8:55 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

You might have mentioned it 50 or 60 posts ago, but you haven't mentioned it recently. And since you keep changing the subject line, you have not mentioned it in this thread, don't expect others to remember this. We're all volunteers, doing this on or time and dime.

Go back and read the article that Tim mentioned, it says that the sleepimage will match its size to the amount of RAM your system has. So if you have 16GB of RAM, the sleepimage will be 16GB.

The purpose of sleepimage is when your Mac goes to sleep, it saves all the information that is in RAM at that time.

Look elsewhere to save room on your new HD.

On Oct 9, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Doug Yelmen wrote:

i did mention this earlier. 16 GBs.
and it is a 27" iMac (2010).

see what bugs me is that it wasn't there a week ago. i went from about 70 gigs of free space to 50 something.

some of that was other things. and i got rid of my movies, and other stuff my internal 1TB drive can handle.

doug

On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:36 AM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:

> Besides what Chris is saying below, and what I eluded to, I don't see any info on your system.
>
> The article Tim directed you to say that it matches the size of the system RAM. The "17 gigs" could easily be the rounding error from MB or KB, to GB. How much RAM does your system have?
>
> Brent
>
> On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Chris Jones wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> As I said, its there for a good reason. OSX doesn't general create large
> files it doesn't need.
>
> If you want to get rid of it, you need to disable the feature it is
> needed for, which is hibernate. Ever left you machine to completely run
> out of battery juice ? hibernate is what it does with its last gasp
> before shutting down completely. If you are happy to live without this
> useful feature, then fine, disable it. Your choice...
>
> cheers Chris
>
> On 08/10/12 17:27, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>> i called apple, and got to speak with a senior advisor. she walked me through the terminal instructions.
>> but, i still have the loss of 17 gigs of space.
>>
>>
>> so, i'd like to make a point here. apple was great. patient, and all. so, i heartily recommend most of you guys who
>> don't know terminal like a lot of folks here, do NOT accept what someone says on google. call Apple, instead.
>>
>> i got a case number, the instructions didn't work. like Chris says (Maybe) i just have to accept it.
>>
>> 2nd piece of advise: get the biggest SSD you can afford, and then double it.
>> harrrrrrrrrr.
>>
>>
>> doug
>> Doug Yelmen
>> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>>
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Tue Oct 9, 2012 9:02 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Chris Jones" bobstermcbob

Hi,

On 09/10/12 16:55, N.A. Nada wrote:
> You might have mentioned it 50 or 60 posts ago, but you haven't mentioned it recently. And since you keep changing the subject line, you have not mentioned it in this thread, don't expect others to remember this. We're all volunteers, doing this on or time and dime.
>
> Go back and read the article that Tim mentioned, it says that the sleepimage will match its size to the amount of RAM your system has. So if you have 16GB of RAM, the sleepimage will be 16GB.
>
> The purpose of sleepimage is when your Mac goes to sleep, it saves all the information that is in RAM at that time.

Whilst I agree with all the above, just to be precise it isn't when the
system goes into sleep that this happens. It happens when the system
hibernates (or safe sleep). See

<http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/51725/do-macbooks-have-a-true-hibernate-option>

for instance to explain the differences. There a are plenty of other
articles on the web explaining it.

Hibernate is not something a desktop would normally need to do (which I
gather from one of the OP's numerous other threads on this... he has).
Probably that explains why he hasn't seen it before. Something must have
happened, or have been done to the machine, to cause it to need to go
into this state.

Can we please move on from this. Its normal, and less you want to
interfere with the normal operation of your machine, I wouldn't touch it.

Chris

> Look elsewhere to save room on your new HD.
>
>
> On Oct 9, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>
> i did mention this earlier. 16 GBs.
> and it is a 27" iMac (2010).
>
> see what bugs me is that it wasn't there a week ago. i went from about 70 gigs of free space to 50 something.
>
> some of that was other things. and i got rid of my movies, and other stuff my internal 1TB drive can handle.
>
> doug
>
> On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:36 AM, N.A. Nada<whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Besides what Chris is saying below, and what I eluded to, I don't see any info on your system.
>>
>> The article Tim directed you to say that it matches the size of the system RAM. The "17 gigs" could easily be the rounding error from MB or KB, to GB. How much RAM does your system have?
>>
>> Brent
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Chris Jones wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> As I said, its there for a good reason. OSX doesn't general create large
>> files it doesn't need.
>>
>> If you want to get rid of it, you need to disable the feature it is
>> needed for, which is hibernate. Ever left you machine to completely run
>> out of battery juice ? hibernate is what it does with its last gasp
>> before shutting down completely. If you are happy to live without this
>> useful feature, then fine, disable it. Your choice...
>>
>> cheers Chris
>>
>> On 08/10/12 17:27, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>> i called apple, and got to speak with a senior advisor. she walked me through the terminal instructions.
>>> but, i still have the loss of 17 gigs of space.
>>>
>>>
>>> so, i'd like to make a point here. apple was great. patient, and all. so, i heartily recommend most of you guys who
>>> don't know terminal like a lot of folks here, do NOT accept what someone says on google. call Apple, instead.
>>>
>>> i got a case number, the instructions didn't work. like Chris says (Maybe) i just have to accept it.
>>>
>>> 2nd piece of advise: get the biggest SSD you can afford, and then double it.
>>> harrrrrrrrrr.
>>>
>>>
>>> doug
>>> Doug Yelmen
>>> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>>>
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Tue Oct 9, 2012 9:21 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

I travel for work and I want to drop my ISP at home. I'm looking for several free or cheap email accounts.

I don't want another me.com account, it took long enough to straighten up my Apple IDs without starting that again.

I don't trust google or gmail.

I get too much spam from yahoo and hotmail, that I have them blocked by rules.

Suggestions?

Brent

Tue Oct 9, 2012 9:48 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"chas" schuetzen



What is the earliest production date (MMYYYY) for the following to be able to
use Mountain Lion?

MacPro

MacBook Pro

Mac Air

I am wanting to buy a refurb or recert (or whatever gloss over term describes
a used, rebuild) which will synch with a iOS6 and so on.
iow, my iPad 3 and my iPhone 4S/5

Seems to me that 2009 or 2010 is about right on the above.

is there a goto site for this info?

thanks in advance

chas
MacPro 1.1

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