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Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:11 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Mark Small" smiley68atl
safari -> preference ->Advanced -> check (Show develop menu in menu bar) ->
close preference window
Then
menu bar -> Develop -> empty cache
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com
> wrote:
> **
>
>
> Safari > Empty Cache?
>
> Otto
>
> On 10 October 2012 19:55, LouisD <lou@loudina.com > wrote:
>
> > I recently updated an image on my website, but the old version of the
> > image (same image number) continues to display on my Mac Pro (OSX 8.2 and
> > Safari 6.0.1). It displays correctly on my iPad, so I know the image has
> > been uploaded and posted correctly on the website. It's always worked
> fine
> > when doing this in the past, but for some reason, my old version of the
> > image continues to display on my Mac.
> >
> > How do I clear my cache and refresh Safari so it will reload the page
> with
> > the proper image? I don't want to trash all my passwords, cookies, etc,
> so
> > if there are any settings, please be specific about which ones will clear
> > out my images and reload from scratch.
> >
>
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close preference window
Then
menu bar -> Develop -> empty cache
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@
> wrote:
> **
>
>
> Safari > Empty Cache?
>
> Otto
>
> On 10 October 2012 19:55, LouisD <lou@loudina.
>
> > I recently updated an image on my website, but the old version of the
> > image (same image number) continues to display on my Mac Pro (OSX 8.2 and
> > Safari 6.0.1). It displays correctly on my iPad, so I know the image has
> > been uploaded and posted correctly on the website. It's always worked
> fine
> > when doing this in the past, but for some reason, my old version of the
> > image continues to display on my Mac.
> >
> > How do I clear my cache and refresh Safari so it will reload the page
> with
> > the proper image? I don't want to trash all my passwords, cookies, etc,
> so
> > if there are any settings, please be specific about which ones will clear
> > out my images and reload from scratch.
> >
>
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>
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Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:18 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
My Safari is 5.0.6 and Empty Cache is in the Safari menu. No need for the
Develop menu, although I do have that too. Has it moved?
Otto
On 10 October 2012 21:10, Mark Small <mark@smallwonderz.net > wrote:
> safari -> preference ->Advanced -> check (Show develop menu in menu bar) ->
> close preference window
>
> Then
>
> menu bar -> Develop -> empty cache
>
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Develop menu, although I do have that too. Has it moved?
Otto
On 10 October 2012 21:10, Mark Small <mark@smallwonderz.
> safari -> preference ->Advanced -> check (Show develop menu in menu bar) ->
> close preference window
>
> Then
>
> menu bar -> Develop -> empty cache
>
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Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:26 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"LouisD" ldina
Thanks, Mark. "Empty Caches" was hiding in the Develop menu and I couldn't find it. That did the trick. Perfect.
Otto, the empty cache command only appears in the Develop Menu as far as I can tell, at least with Safari 6.0.1 on my machine. I looked for it all over the place and couldn't find it, until Mark helped me find it.
Lou
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Mark Small <mark@...> wrote:
>
> safari -> preference ->Advanced -> check (Show develop menu in menu bar) ->
> close preference window
>
> Then
>
> menu bar -> Develop -> empty cache
>
Otto, the empty cache command only appears in the Develop Menu as far as I can tell, at least with Safari 6.0.1 on my machine. I looked for it all over the place and couldn't find it, until Mark helped me find it.
Lou
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> safari -> preference ->Advanced -> check (Show develop menu in menu bar) ->
> close preference window
>
> Then
>
> menu bar -> Develop -> empty cache
>
Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:31 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
Thanks. So it *has* moved. Why something so basic is no longer in the
standard menu escapes me.
Otto
On 10 October 2012 21:26, LouisD <lou@loudina.com > wrote:
> Thanks, Mark. "Empty Caches" was hiding in the Develop menu and I couldn't
> find it. That did the trick. Perfect.
>
> Otto, the empty cache command only appears in the Develop Menu as far as I
> can tell, at least with Safari 6.0.1 on my machine. I looked for it all
> over the place and couldn't find it, until Mark helped me find it.
>
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standard menu escapes me.
Otto
On 10 October 2012 21:26, LouisD <lou@loudina.
> Thanks, Mark. "Empty Caches" was hiding in the Develop menu and I couldn't
> find it. That did the trick. Perfect.
>
> Otto, the empty cache command only appears in the Develop Menu as far as I
> can tell, at least with Safari 6.0.1 on my machine. I looked for it all
> over the place and couldn't find it, until Mark helped me find it.
>
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Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:40 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Guy Kudlemyer" truckersroost
Hello:
Please forgive my ignorance, but I¹m new to the iPhone game.
I have an Excel for Mac 2008 spreadsheet that spans 8 columns and nearly
6,000 rows. Is there an ap available that would allow me to download and
sync that spreadsheet so that it could be viewed on my iPhone? I don¹t want
to edit the spreadsheet on the phone, I just want to be able to view it and
refer to it.
If you know of such an ap, I would be most appreciative if you could point
me to it!
Thanks in advance!
Guy
Thurston, OR
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Please forgive my ignorance, but I¹m new to the iPhone game.
I have an Excel for Mac 2008 spreadsheet that spans 8 columns and nearly
6,000 rows. Is there an ap available that would allow me to download and
sync that spreadsheet so that it could be viewed on my iPhone? I don¹t want
to edit the spreadsheet on the phone, I just want to be able to view it and
refer to it.
If you know of such an ap, I would be most appreciative if you could point
me to it!
Thanks in advance!
Guy
Thurston, OR
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Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:24 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Tim O'Donoghue" timodonoghue
Depending on the spreadsheet app on the Phone (Numbers?) a CSV export would be simple, and likely to be supported across most spreadsheets. A lot depends on the capabilities common to the two apps.
On Oct 10, 2012, at 3:40 PM, Guy Kudlemyer <gwkuddles@comcast.net > wrote:
> Hello:
>
> Please forgive my ignorance, but I¹m new to the iPhone game.
>
> I have an Excel for Mac 2008 spreadsheet that spans 8 columns and nearly
> 6,000 rows. Is there an ap available that would allow me to download and
> sync that spreadsheet so that it could be viewed on my iPhone? I don¹t want
> to edit the spreadsheet on the phone, I just want to be able to view it and
> refer to it.
>
> If you know of such an ap, I would be most appreciative if you could point
> me to it!
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Guy
> Thurston, OR
>
>
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On Oct 10, 2012, at 3:40 PM, Guy Kudlemyer <gwkuddles@comcast.
> Hello:
>
> Please forgive my ignorance, but I¹m new to the iPhone game.
>
> I have an Excel for Mac 2008 spreadsheet that spans 8 columns and nearly
> 6,000 rows. Is there an ap available that would allow me to download and
> sync that spreadsheet so that it could be viewed on my iPhone? I don¹t want
> to edit the spreadsheet on the phone, I just want to be able to view it and
> refer to it.
>
> If you know of such an ap, I would be most appreciative if you could point
> me to it!
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Guy
> Thurston, OR
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Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:49 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen
i see no reason to be rude.
i never changed the subject line, nor was there anywhere near 50 or 60 messages. i also mentioned that i knew the sleepimage matched the amount of RAM. i also mentioned that this is a iMac, and not a laptop.
i also mentioned that this is new issue.
i was not rude.
and i refuse to be rude.
doug
Doug Yelmen
dougyelmen@earthlink.net
I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
On Oct 9, 2012, at 8:55 AM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.net > wrote:
> You might have mentioned it 50 or 60 posts ago, but you haven't mentioned it recently. And since you keep changing the subject line, you have not mentioned it in this thread, don't expect others to remember this. We're all volunteers, doing this on or time and dime.
>
> Go back and read the article that Tim mentioned, it says that the sleepimage will match its size to the amount of RAM your system has. So if you have 16GB of RAM, the sleepimage will be 16GB.
>
> The purpose of sleepimage is when your Mac goes to sleep, it saves all the information that is in RAM at that time.
>
> Look elsewhere to save room on your new HD.
>
>
> On Oct 9, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>
> i did mention this earlier. 16 GBs.
> and it is a 27" iMac (2010).
>
> see what bugs me is that it wasn't there a week ago. i went from about 70 gigs of free space to 50 something.
>
> some of that was other things. and i got rid of my movies, and other stuff my internal 1TB drive can handle.
>
> doug
>
> On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:36 AM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.net > wrote:
>
>> Besides what Chris is saying below, and what I eluded to, I don't see any info on your system.
>>
>> The article Tim directed you to say that it matches the size of the system RAM. The "17 gigs" could easily be the rounding error from MB or KB, to GB. How much RAM does your system have?
>>
>> Brent
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Chris Jones wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> As I said, its there for a good reason. OSX doesn't general create large
>> files it doesn't need.
>>
>> If you want to get rid of it, you need to disable the feature it is
>> needed for, which is hibernate. Ever left you machine to completely run
>> out of battery juice ? hibernate is what it does with its last gasp
>> before shutting down completely. If you are happy to live without this
>> useful feature, then fine, disable it. Your choice...
>>
>> cheers Chris
>>
>> On 08/10/12 17:27, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>> i called apple, and got to speak with a senior advisor. she walked me through the terminal instructions.
>>> but, i still have the loss of 17 gigs of space.
>>>
>>>
>>> so, i'd like to make a point here. apple was great. patient, and all. so, i heartily recommend most of you guys who
>>> don't know terminal like a lot of folks here, do NOT accept what someone says on google. call Apple, instead.
>>>
>>> i got a case number, the instructions didn't work. like Chris says (Maybe) i just have to accept it.
>>>
>>> 2nd piece of advise: get the biggest SSD you can afford, and then double it.
>>> harrrrrrrrrr.
>>>
>>>
>>> doug
>>> Doug Yelmen
>>> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>>>
>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>>
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i never changed the subject line, nor was there anywhere near 50 or 60 messages. i also mentioned that i knew the sleepimage matched the amount of RAM. i also mentioned that this is a iMac, and not a laptop.
i also mentioned that this is new issue.
i was not rude.
and i refuse to be rude.
doug
Doug Yelmen
dougyelmen@earthlin
I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
On Oct 9, 2012, at 8:55 AM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.
> You might have mentioned it 50 or 60 posts ago, but you haven't mentioned it recently. And since you keep changing the subject line, you have not mentioned it in this thread, don't expect others to remember this. We're all volunteers, doing this on or time and dime.
>
> Go back and read the article that Tim mentioned, it says that the sleepimage will match its size to the amount of RAM your system has. So if you have 16GB of RAM, the sleepimage will be 16GB.
>
> The purpose of sleepimage is when your Mac goes to sleep, it saves all the information that is in RAM at that time.
>
> Look elsewhere to save room on your new HD.
>
>
> On Oct 9, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>
> i did mention this earlier. 16 GBs.
> and it is a 27" iMac (2010).
>
> see what bugs me is that it wasn't there a week ago. i went from about 70 gigs of free space to 50 something.
>
> some of that was other things. and i got rid of my movies, and other stuff my internal 1TB drive can handle.
>
> doug
>
> On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:36 AM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.
>
>> Besides what Chris is saying below, and what I eluded to, I don't see any info on your system.
>>
>> The article Tim directed you to say that it matches the size of the system RAM. The "17 gigs" could easily be the rounding error from MB or KB, to GB. How much RAM does your system have?
>>
>> Brent
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Chris Jones wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> As I said, its there for a good reason. OSX doesn't general create large
>> files it doesn't need.
>>
>> If you want to get rid of it, you need to disable the feature it is
>> needed for, which is hibernate. Ever left you machine to completely run
>> out of battery juice ? hibernate is what it does with its last gasp
>> before shutting down completely. If you are happy to live without this
>> useful feature, then fine, disable it. Your choice...
>>
>> cheers Chris
>>
>> On 08/10/12 17:27, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>> i called apple, and got to speak with a senior advisor. she walked me through the terminal instructions.
>>> but, i still have the loss of 17 gigs of space.
>>>
>>>
>>> so, i'd like to make a point here. apple was great. patient, and all. so, i heartily recommend most of you guys who
>>> don't know terminal like a lot of folks here, do NOT accept what someone says on google. call Apple, instead.
>>>
>>> i got a case number, the instructions didn't work. like Chris says (Maybe) i just have to accept it.
>>>
>>> 2nd piece of advise: get the biggest SSD you can afford, and then double it.
>>> harrrrrrrrrr.
>>>
>>>
>>> doug
>>> Doug Yelmen
>>> dougyelmen@earthlin
>>>
>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>>
>>>
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Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:53 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen
i wasn't trying to "not move on." and i mentioned this is not a laptop, and therefore doesn't hibernate. and that the senior tech at apple
said it is Not normal for it to be such a big file.
i was pleasantly surprised that people wanted to help me.
now, this.
no one seems to get it, or know the solution.
so, you attack me?
i don't do well with confrontation.
so, i will not engage.
doug
Doug Yelmen
dougyelmen@earthlink.net
I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
On Oct 9, 2012, at 9:02 AM, Chris Jones <jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk > wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 09/10/12 16:55, N.A. Nada wrote:
>> You might have mentioned it 50 or 60 posts ago, but you haven't mentioned it recently. And since you keep changing the subject line, you have not mentioned it in this thread, don't expect others to remember this. We're all volunteers, doing this on or time and dime.
>>
>> Go back and read the article that Tim mentioned, it says that the sleepimage will match its size to the amount of RAM your system has. So if you have 16GB of RAM, the sleepimage will be 16GB.
>>
>> The purpose of sleepimage is when your Mac goes to sleep, it saves all the information that is in RAM at that time.
>
> Whilst I agree with all the above, just to be precise it isn't when the
> system goes into sleep that this happens. It happens when the system
> hibernates (or safe sleep). See
>
> <http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/51725/do-macbooks-have-a-true-hibernate-option >
>
> for instance to explain the differences. There a are plenty of other
> articles on the web explaining it.
>
> Hibernate is not something a desktop would normally need to do (which I
> gather from one of the OP's numerous other threads on this... he has).
> Probably that explains why he hasn't seen it before. Something must have
> happened, or have been done to the machine, to cause it to need to go
> into this state.
>
> Can we please move on from this. Its normal, and less you want to
> interfere with the normal operation of your machine, I wouldn't touch it.
>
> Chris
>
>> Look elsewhere to save room on your new HD.
>>
>>
>> On Oct 9, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>
>> i did mention this earlier. 16 GBs.
>> and it is a 27" iMac (2010).
>>
>> see what bugs me is that it wasn't there a week ago. i went from about 70 gigs of free space to 50 something.
>>
>> some of that was other things. and i got rid of my movies, and other stuff my internal 1TB drive can handle.
>>
>> doug
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:36 AM, N.A. Nada<whodo678@comcast.net > wrote:
>>
>>> Besides what Chris is saying below, and what I eluded to, I don't see any info on your system.
>>>
>>> The article Tim directed you to say that it matches the size of the system RAM. The "17 gigs" could easily be the rounding error from MB or KB, to GB. How much RAM does your system have?
>>>
>>> Brent
>>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Chris Jones wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> As I said, its there for a good reason. OSX doesn't general create large
>>> files it doesn't need.
>>>
>>> If you want to get rid of it, you need to disable the feature it is
>>> needed for, which is hibernate. Ever left you machine to completely run
>>> out of battery juice ? hibernate is what it does with its last gasp
>>> before shutting down completely. If you are happy to live without this
>>> useful feature, then fine, disable it. Your choice...
>>>
>>> cheers Chris
>>>
>>> On 08/10/12 17:27, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>>> i called apple, and got to speak with a senior advisor. she walked me through the terminal instructions.
>>>> but, i still have the loss of 17 gigs of space.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> so, i'd like to make a point here. apple was great. patient, and all. so, i heartily recommend most of you guys who
>>>> don't know terminal like a lot of folks here, do NOT accept what someone says on google. call Apple, instead.
>>>>
>>>> i got a case number, the instructions didn't work. like Chris says (Maybe) i just have to accept it.
>>>>
>>>> 2nd piece of advise: get the biggest SSD you can afford, and then double it.
>>>> harrrrrrrrrr.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> doug
>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>>>>
>>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>>>
>>>>
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said it is Not normal for it to be such a big file.
i was pleasantly surprised that people wanted to help me.
now, this.
no one seems to get it, or know the solution.
so, you attack me?
i don't do well with confrontation.
so, i will not engage.
doug
Doug Yelmen
dougyelmen@earthlin
I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
On Oct 9, 2012, at 9:02 AM, Chris Jones <jonesc@hep.phy.
> Hi,
>
> On 09/10/12 16:55, N.A. Nada wrote:
>> You might have mentioned it 50 or 60 posts ago, but you haven't mentioned it recently. And since you keep changing the subject line, you have not mentioned it in this thread, don't expect others to remember this. We're all volunteers, doing this on or time and dime.
>>
>> Go back and read the article that Tim mentioned, it says that the sleepimage will match its size to the amount of RAM your system has. So if you have 16GB of RAM, the sleepimage will be 16GB.
>>
>> The purpose of sleepimage is when your Mac goes to sleep, it saves all the information that is in RAM at that time.
>
> Whilst I agree with all the above, just to be precise it isn't when the
> system goes into sleep that this happens. It happens when the system
> hibernates (or safe sleep). See
>
> <http://apple.
>
> for instance to explain the differences. There a are plenty of other
> articles on the web explaining it.
>
> Hibernate is not something a desktop would normally need to do (which I
> gather from one of the OP's numerous other threads on this... he has).
> Probably that explains why he hasn't seen it before. Something must have
> happened, or have been done to the machine, to cause it to need to go
> into this state.
>
> Can we please move on from this. Its normal, and less you want to
> interfere with the normal operation of your machine, I wouldn't touch it.
>
> Chris
>
>> Look elsewhere to save room on your new HD.
>>
>>
>> On Oct 9, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>
>> i did mention this earlier. 16 GBs.
>> and it is a 27" iMac (2010).
>>
>> see what bugs me is that it wasn't there a week ago. i went from about 70 gigs of free space to 50 something.
>>
>> some of that was other things. and i got rid of my movies, and other stuff my internal 1TB drive can handle.
>>
>> doug
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:36 AM, N.A. Nada<whodo678@comcast.
>>
>>> Besides what Chris is saying below, and what I eluded to, I don't see any info on your system.
>>>
>>> The article Tim directed you to say that it matches the size of the system RAM. The "17 gigs" could easily be the rounding error from MB or KB, to GB. How much RAM does your system have?
>>>
>>> Brent
>>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Chris Jones wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> As I said, its there for a good reason. OSX doesn't general create large
>>> files it doesn't need.
>>>
>>> If you want to get rid of it, you need to disable the feature it is
>>> needed for, which is hibernate. Ever left you machine to completely run
>>> out of battery juice ? hibernate is what it does with its last gasp
>>> before shutting down completely. If you are happy to live without this
>>> useful feature, then fine, disable it. Your choice...
>>>
>>> cheers Chris
>>>
>>> On 08/10/12 17:27, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>>> i called apple, and got to speak with a senior advisor. she walked me through the terminal instructions.
>>>> but, i still have the loss of 17 gigs of space.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> so, i'd like to make a point here. apple was great. patient, and all. so, i heartily recommend most of you guys who
>>>> don't know terminal like a lot of folks here, do NOT accept what someone says on google. call Apple, instead.
>>>>
>>>> i got a case number, the instructions didn't work. like Chris says (Maybe) i just have to accept it.
>>>>
>>>> 2nd piece of advise: get the biggest SSD you can afford, and then double it.
>>>> harrrrrrrrrr.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> doug
>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>> dougyelmen@earthlin
>>>>
>>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>>>
>>>>
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Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:07 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Chris Jones" bobstermcbob
Hi,
On 10 Oct 2012, at 11:49pm, Doug Yelmen <dougyelmen@earthlink.net > wrote:
> i see no reason to be rude.
> i never changed the subject line,
There are two threads *you* start on this list about this. One entitled "called apple" and another called "
> nor was there anywhere near 50 or 60 messages. i also mentioned that i knew the sleepimage matched the amount of RAM. i also mentioned that this is a iMac, and not a laptop.
> i also mentioned that this is new issue.
> i was not rude.
> and i refuse to be rude.
>
> doug
> Doug Yelmen
> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>
> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>
> On Oct 9, 2012, at 8:55 AM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.net > wrote:
>
>> You might have mentioned it 50 or 60 posts ago, but you haven't mentioned it recently. And since you keep changing the subject line, you have not mentioned it in this thread, don't expect others to remember this. We're all volunteers, doing this on or time and dime.
>>
>> Go back and read the article that Tim mentioned, it says that the sleepimage will match its size to the amount of RAM your system has. So if you have 16GB of RAM, the sleepimage will be 16GB.
>>
>> The purpose of sleepimage is when your Mac goes to sleep, it saves all the information that is in RAM at that time.
>>
>> Look elsewhere to save room on your new HD.
>>
>>
>> On Oct 9, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>
>> i did mention this earlier. 16 GBs.
>> and it is a 27" iMac (2010).
>>
>> see what bugs me is that it wasn't there a week ago. i went from about 70 gigs of free space to 50 something.
>>
>> some of that was other things. and i got rid of my movies, and other stuff my internal 1TB drive can handle.
>>
>> doug
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:36 AM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.net > wrote:
>>
>>> Besides what Chris is saying below, and what I eluded to, I don't see any info on your system.
>>>
>>> The article Tim directed you to say that it matches the size of the system RAM. The "17 gigs" could easily be the rounding error from MB or KB, to GB. How much RAM does your system have?
>>>
>>> Brent
>>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Chris Jones wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> As I said, its there for a good reason. OSX doesn't general create large
>>> files it doesn't need.
>>>
>>> If you want to get rid of it, you need to disable the feature it is
>>> needed for, which is hibernate. Ever left you machine to completely run
>>> out of battery juice ? hibernate is what it does with its last gasp
>>> before shutting down completely. If you are happy to live without this
>>> useful feature, then fine, disable it. Your choice...
>>>
>>> cheers Chris
>>>
>>> On 08/10/12 17:27, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>>> i called apple, and got to speak with a senior advisor. she walked me through the terminal instructions.
>>>> but, i still have the loss of 17 gigs of space.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> so, i'd like to make a point here. apple was great. patient, and all. so, i heartily recommend most of you guys who
>>>> don't know terminal like a lot of folks here, do NOT accept what someone says on google. call Apple, instead.
>>>>
>>>> i got a case number, the instructions didn't work. like Chris says (Maybe) i just have to accept it.
>>>>
>>>> 2nd piece of advise: get the biggest SSD you can afford, and then double it.
>>>> harrrrrrrrrr.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> doug
>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>>>>
>>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>>>
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On 10 Oct 2012, at 11:49pm, Doug Yelmen <dougyelmen@earthlin
> i see no reason to be rude.
> i never changed the subject line,
There are two threads *you* start on this list about this. One entitled "called apple" and another called "
> nor was there anywhere near 50 or 60 messages. i also mentioned that i knew the sleepimage matched the amount of RAM. i also mentioned that this is a iMac, and not a laptop.
> i also mentioned that this is new issue.
> i was not rude.
> and i refuse to be rude.
>
> doug
> Doug Yelmen
> dougyelmen@earthlin
>
> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>
> On Oct 9, 2012, at 8:55 AM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.
>
>> You might have mentioned it 50 or 60 posts ago, but you haven't mentioned it recently. And since you keep changing the subject line, you have not mentioned it in this thread, don't expect others to remember this. We're all volunteers, doing this on or time and dime.
>>
>> Go back and read the article that Tim mentioned, it says that the sleepimage will match its size to the amount of RAM your system has. So if you have 16GB of RAM, the sleepimage will be 16GB.
>>
>> The purpose of sleepimage is when your Mac goes to sleep, it saves all the information that is in RAM at that time.
>>
>> Look elsewhere to save room on your new HD.
>>
>>
>> On Oct 9, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>
>> i did mention this earlier. 16 GBs.
>> and it is a 27" iMac (2010).
>>
>> see what bugs me is that it wasn't there a week ago. i went from about 70 gigs of free space to 50 something.
>>
>> some of that was other things. and i got rid of my movies, and other stuff my internal 1TB drive can handle.
>>
>> doug
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:36 AM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.
>>
>>> Besides what Chris is saying below, and what I eluded to, I don't see any info on your system.
>>>
>>> The article Tim directed you to say that it matches the size of the system RAM. The "17 gigs" could easily be the rounding error from MB or KB, to GB. How much RAM does your system have?
>>>
>>> Brent
>>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Chris Jones wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> As I said, its there for a good reason. OSX doesn't general create large
>>> files it doesn't need.
>>>
>>> If you want to get rid of it, you need to disable the feature it is
>>> needed for, which is hibernate. Ever left you machine to completely run
>>> out of battery juice ? hibernate is what it does with its last gasp
>>> before shutting down completely. If you are happy to live without this
>>> useful feature, then fine, disable it. Your choice...
>>>
>>> cheers Chris
>>>
>>> On 08/10/12 17:27, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>>> i called apple, and got to speak with a senior advisor. she walked me through the terminal instructions.
>>>> but, i still have the loss of 17 gigs of space.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> so, i'd like to make a point here. apple was great. patient, and all. so, i heartily recommend most of you guys who
>>>> don't know terminal like a lot of folks here, do NOT accept what someone says on google. call Apple, instead.
>>>>
>>>> i got a case number, the instructions didn't work. like Chris says (Maybe) i just have to accept it.
>>>>
>>>> 2nd piece of advise: get the biggest SSD you can afford, and then double it.
>>>> harrrrrrrrrr.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> doug
>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>> dougyelmen@earthlin
>>>>
>>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>>>
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Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:09 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Chris Jones" bobstermcbob
Whoops, accidentally clicked send too soon…
I intended to say..
There are two threads *you* start on this list about this. One entitled "called apple" and another called "sleep image 17Gb of it"
so yes, you did start more than one thread.
On 11 Oct 2012, at 12:07am, Chris Jones <jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk > wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> On 10 Oct 2012, at 11:49pm, Doug Yelmen <dougyelmen@earthlink.net > wrote:
>
>> i see no reason to be rude.
>> i never changed the subject line,
>
> There are two threads *you* start on this list about this. One entitled "called apple" and another called "
>
>> nor was there anywhere near 50 or 60 messages. i also mentioned that i knew the sleepimage matched the amount of RAM. i also mentioned that this is a iMac, and not a laptop.
>> i also mentioned that this is new issue.
>> i was not rude.
>> and i refuse to be rude.
>>
>> doug
>> Doug Yelmen
>> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>>
>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>
>> On Oct 9, 2012, at 8:55 AM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.net > wrote:
>>
>>> You might have mentioned it 50 or 60 posts ago, but you haven't mentioned it recently. And since you keep changing the subject line, you have not mentioned it in this thread, don't expect others to remember this. We're all volunteers, doing this on or time and dime.
>>>
>>> Go back and read the article that Tim mentioned, it says that the sleepimage will match its size to the amount of RAM your system has. So if you have 16GB of RAM, the sleepimage will be 16GB.
>>>
>>> The purpose of sleepimage is when your Mac goes to sleep, it saves all the information that is in RAM at that time.
>>>
>>> Look elsewhere to save room on your new HD.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 9, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>>
>>> i did mention this earlier. 16 GBs.
>>> and it is a 27" iMac (2010).
>>>
>>> see what bugs me is that it wasn't there a week ago. i went from about 70 gigs of free space to 50 something.
>>>
>>> some of that was other things. and i got rid of my movies, and other stuff my internal 1TB drive can handle.
>>>
>>> doug
>>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:36 AM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.net > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Besides what Chris is saying below, and what I eluded to, I don't see any info on your system.
>>>>
>>>> The article Tim directed you to say that it matches the size of the system RAM. The "17 gigs" could easily be the rounding error from MB or KB, to GB. How much RAM does your system have?
>>>>
>>>> Brent
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Chris Jones wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> As I said, its there for a good reason. OSX doesn't general create large
>>>> files it doesn't need.
>>>>
>>>> If you want to get rid of it, you need to disable the feature it is
>>>> needed for, which is hibernate. Ever left you machine to completely run
>>>> out of battery juice ? hibernate is what it does with its last gasp
>>>> before shutting down completely. If you are happy to live without this
>>>> useful feature, then fine, disable it. Your choice...
>>>>
>>>> cheers Chris
>>>>
>>>> On 08/10/12 17:27, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>>>> i called apple, and got to speak with a senior advisor. she walked me through the terminal instructions.
>>>>> but, i still have the loss of 17 gigs of space.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> so, i'd like to make a point here. apple was great. patient, and all. so, i heartily recommend most of you guys who
>>>>> don't know terminal like a lot of folks here, do NOT accept what someone says on google. call Apple, instead.
>>>>>
>>>>> i got a case number, the instructions didn't work. like Chris says (Maybe) i just have to accept it.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2nd piece of advise: get the biggest SSD you can afford, and then double it.
>>>>> harrrrrrrrrr.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> doug
>>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>>> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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I intended to say..
There are two threads *you* start on this list about this. One entitled "called apple" and another called "sleep image 17Gb of it"
so yes, you did start more than one thread.
On 11 Oct 2012, at 12:07am, Chris Jones <jonesc@hep.phy.
> Hi,
>
>
> On 10 Oct 2012, at 11:49pm, Doug Yelmen <dougyelmen@earthlin
>
>> i see no reason to be rude.
>> i never changed the subject line,
>
> There are two threads *you* start on this list about this. One entitled "called apple" and another called "
>
>> nor was there anywhere near 50 or 60 messages. i also mentioned that i knew the sleepimage matched the amount of RAM. i also mentioned that this is a iMac, and not a laptop.
>> i also mentioned that this is new issue.
>> i was not rude.
>> and i refuse to be rude.
>>
>> doug
>> Doug Yelmen
>> dougyelmen@earthlin
>>
>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>
>> On Oct 9, 2012, at 8:55 AM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.
>>
>>> You might have mentioned it 50 or 60 posts ago, but you haven't mentioned it recently. And since you keep changing the subject line, you have not mentioned it in this thread, don't expect others to remember this. We're all volunteers, doing this on or time and dime.
>>>
>>> Go back and read the article that Tim mentioned, it says that the sleepimage will match its size to the amount of RAM your system has. So if you have 16GB of RAM, the sleepimage will be 16GB.
>>>
>>> The purpose of sleepimage is when your Mac goes to sleep, it saves all the information that is in RAM at that time.
>>>
>>> Look elsewhere to save room on your new HD.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 9, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>>
>>> i did mention this earlier. 16 GBs.
>>> and it is a 27" iMac (2010).
>>>
>>> see what bugs me is that it wasn't there a week ago. i went from about 70 gigs of free space to 50 something.
>>>
>>> some of that was other things. and i got rid of my movies, and other stuff my internal 1TB drive can handle.
>>>
>>> doug
>>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:36 AM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.
>>>
>>>> Besides what Chris is saying below, and what I eluded to, I don't see any info on your system.
>>>>
>>>> The article Tim directed you to say that it matches the size of the system RAM. The "17 gigs" could easily be the rounding error from MB or KB, to GB. How much RAM does your system have?
>>>>
>>>> Brent
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Chris Jones wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> As I said, its there for a good reason. OSX doesn't general create large
>>>> files it doesn't need.
>>>>
>>>> If you want to get rid of it, you need to disable the feature it is
>>>> needed for, which is hibernate. Ever left you machine to completely run
>>>> out of battery juice ? hibernate is what it does with its last gasp
>>>> before shutting down completely. If you are happy to live without this
>>>> useful feature, then fine, disable it. Your choice...
>>>>
>>>> cheers Chris
>>>>
>>>> On 08/10/12 17:27, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>>>> i called apple, and got to speak with a senior advisor. she walked me through the terminal instructions.
>>>>> but, i still have the loss of 17 gigs of space.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> so, i'd like to make a point here. apple was great. patient, and all. so, i heartily recommend most of you guys who
>>>>> don't know terminal like a lot of folks here, do NOT accept what someone says on google. call Apple, instead.
>>>>>
>>>>> i got a case number, the instructions didn't work. like Chris says (Maybe) i just have to accept it.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2nd piece of advise: get the biggest SSD you can afford, and then double it.
>>>>> harrrrrrrrrr.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> doug
>>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>>> dougyelmen@earthlin
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:33 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Tim O'Donoghue" timodonoghue
Hi Doug;
The sleepimage file has to be the size of the RAM installed on your system. It may not be "normal" or common for folks to be running systems with 16 gig of RAM (yet), but it will be more common as more machines can use that much. I think maybe the Apple tech may not have made the connection between the RAM size on your machine and the size of the file, but they do match.
As for the existence of the sleepimage file - it *will* exist on any machine - laptop or desktop - that has been in hibernate or "deep sleep" state in the past (or since the previous sleepimage file was last deleted). Until I disabled hibernation on my MacBook Pro to save limited space on my SSD drive (same as you reasoning...) I went through a few cycles of deleting the sleepimage file before I was able to nail down the cause of its returning all the time.
On Oct 10, 2012, at 3:53 PM, Doug Yelmen <dougyelmen@earthlink.net > wrote:
> i wasn't trying to "not move on." and i mentioned this is not a laptop, and therefore doesn't hibernate. and that the senior tech at apple
> said it is Not normal for it to be such a big file.
> i was pleasantly surprised that people wanted to help me.
> now, this.
> no one seems to get it, or know the solution.
> so, you attack me?
> i don't do well with confrontation.
> so, i will not engage.
>
> doug
> Doug Yelmen
> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>
> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>
> On Oct 9, 2012, at 9:02 AM, Chris Jones <jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk > wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 09/10/12 16:55, N.A. Nada wrote:
>>> You might have mentioned it 50 or 60 posts ago, but you haven't mentioned it recently. And since you keep changing the subject line, you have not mentioned it in this thread, don't expect others to remember this. We're all volunteers, doing this on or time and dime.
>>>
>>> Go back and read the article that Tim mentioned, it says that the sleepimage will match its size to the amount of RAM your system has. So if you have 16GB of RAM, the sleepimage will be 16GB.
>>>
>>> The purpose of sleepimage is when your Mac goes to sleep, it saves all the information that is in RAM at that time.
>>
>> Whilst I agree with all the above, just to be precise it isn't when the
>> system goes into sleep that this happens. It happens when the system
>> hibernates (or safe sleep). See
>>
>> <http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/51725/do-macbooks-have-a-true-hibernate-option >
>>
>> for instance to explain the differences. There a are plenty of other
>> articles on the web explaining it.
>>
>> Hibernate is not something a desktop would normally need to do (which I
>> gather from one of the OP's numerous other threads on this... he has).
>> Probably that explains why he hasn't seen it before. Something must have
>> happened, or have been done to the machine, to cause it to need to go
>> into this state.
>>
>> Can we please move on from this. Its normal, and less you want to
>> interfere with the normal operation of your machine, I wouldn't touch it.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>> Look elsewhere to save room on your new HD.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 9, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>>
>>> i did mention this earlier. 16 GBs.
>>> and it is a 27" iMac (2010).
>>>
>>> see what bugs me is that it wasn't there a week ago. i went from about 70 gigs of free space to 50 something.
>>>
>>> some of that was other things. and i got rid of my movies, and other stuff my internal 1TB drive can handle.
>>>
>>> doug
>>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:36 AM, N.A. Nada<whodo678@comcast.net > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Besides what Chris is saying below, and what I eluded to, I don't see any info on your system.
>>>>
>>>> The article Tim directed you to say that it matches the size of the system RAM. The "17 gigs" could easily be the rounding error from MB or KB, to GB. How much RAM does your system have?
>>>>
>>>> Brent
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Chris Jones wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> As I said, its there for a good reason. OSX doesn't general create large
>>>> files it doesn't need.
>>>>
>>>> If you want to get rid of it, you need to disable the feature it is
>>>> needed for, which is hibernate. Ever left you machine to completely run
>>>> out of battery juice ? hibernate is what it does with its last gasp
>>>> before shutting down completely. If you are happy to live without this
>>>> useful feature, then fine, disable it. Your choice...
>>>>
>>>> cheers Chris
>>>>
>>>> On 08/10/12 17:27, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>>>> i called apple, and got to speak with a senior advisor. she walked me through the terminal instructions.
>>>>> but, i still have the loss of 17 gigs of space.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> so, i'd like to make a point here. apple was great. patient, and all. so, i heartily recommend most of you guys who
>>>>> don't know terminal like a lot of folks here, do NOT accept what someone says on google. call Apple, instead.
>>>>>
>>>>> i got a case number, the instructions didn't work. like Chris says (Maybe) i just have to accept it.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2nd piece of advise: get the biggest SSD you can afford, and then double it.
>>>>> harrrrrrrrrr.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> doug
>>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>>> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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The sleepimage file has to be the size of the RAM installed on your system. It may not be "normal" or common for folks to be running systems with 16 gig of RAM (yet), but it will be more common as more machines can use that much. I think maybe the Apple tech may not have made the connection between the RAM size on your machine and the size of the file, but they do match.
As for the existence of the sleepimage file - it *will* exist on any machine - laptop or desktop - that has been in hibernate or "deep sleep" state in the past (or since the previous sleepimage file was last deleted). Until I disabled hibernation on my MacBook Pro to save limited space on my SSD drive (same as you reasoning...
On Oct 10, 2012, at 3:53 PM, Doug Yelmen <dougyelmen@earthlin
> i wasn't trying to "not move on." and i mentioned this is not a laptop, and therefore doesn't hibernate. and that the senior tech at apple
> said it is Not normal for it to be such a big file.
> i was pleasantly surprised that people wanted to help me.
> now, this.
> no one seems to get it, or know the solution.
> so, you attack me?
> i don't do well with confrontation.
> so, i will not engage.
>
> doug
> Doug Yelmen
> dougyelmen@earthlin
>
> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>
> On Oct 9, 2012, at 9:02 AM, Chris Jones <jonesc@hep.phy.
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 09/10/12 16:55, N.A. Nada wrote:
>>> You might have mentioned it 50 or 60 posts ago, but you haven't mentioned it recently. And since you keep changing the subject line, you have not mentioned it in this thread, don't expect others to remember this. We're all volunteers, doing this on or time and dime.
>>>
>>> Go back and read the article that Tim mentioned, it says that the sleepimage will match its size to the amount of RAM your system has. So if you have 16GB of RAM, the sleepimage will be 16GB.
>>>
>>> The purpose of sleepimage is when your Mac goes to sleep, it saves all the information that is in RAM at that time.
>>
>> Whilst I agree with all the above, just to be precise it isn't when the
>> system goes into sleep that this happens. It happens when the system
>> hibernates (or safe sleep). See
>>
>> <http://apple.
>>
>> for instance to explain the differences. There a are plenty of other
>> articles on the web explaining it.
>>
>> Hibernate is not something a desktop would normally need to do (which I
>> gather from one of the OP's numerous other threads on this... he has).
>> Probably that explains why he hasn't seen it before. Something must have
>> happened, or have been done to the machine, to cause it to need to go
>> into this state.
>>
>> Can we please move on from this. Its normal, and less you want to
>> interfere with the normal operation of your machine, I wouldn't touch it.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>> Look elsewhere to save room on your new HD.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 9, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>>
>>> i did mention this earlier. 16 GBs.
>>> and it is a 27" iMac (2010).
>>>
>>> see what bugs me is that it wasn't there a week ago. i went from about 70 gigs of free space to 50 something.
>>>
>>> some of that was other things. and i got rid of my movies, and other stuff my internal 1TB drive can handle.
>>>
>>> doug
>>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:36 AM, N.A. Nada<whodo678@comcast.
>>>
>>>> Besides what Chris is saying below, and what I eluded to, I don't see any info on your system.
>>>>
>>>> The article Tim directed you to say that it matches the size of the system RAM. The "17 gigs" could easily be the rounding error from MB or KB, to GB. How much RAM does your system have?
>>>>
>>>> Brent
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Chris Jones wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> As I said, its there for a good reason. OSX doesn't general create large
>>>> files it doesn't need.
>>>>
>>>> If you want to get rid of it, you need to disable the feature it is
>>>> needed for, which is hibernate. Ever left you machine to completely run
>>>> out of battery juice ? hibernate is what it does with its last gasp
>>>> before shutting down completely. If you are happy to live without this
>>>> useful feature, then fine, disable it. Your choice...
>>>>
>>>> cheers Chris
>>>>
>>>> On 08/10/12 17:27, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>>>> i called apple, and got to speak with a senior advisor. she walked me through the terminal instructions.
>>>>> but, i still have the loss of 17 gigs of space.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> so, i'd like to make a point here. apple was great. patient, and all. so, i heartily recommend most of you guys who
>>>>> don't know terminal like a lot of folks here, do NOT accept what someone says on google. call Apple, instead.
>>>>>
>>>>> i got a case number, the instructions didn't work. like Chris says (Maybe) i just have to accept it.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2nd piece of advise: get the biggest SSD you can afford, and then double it.
>>>>> harrrrrrrrrr.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> doug
>>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>>> dougyelmen@earthlin
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Yes, iMac *can* hibernate. Normally they won't, but they can do it, and if they do they will use more than 2GB of sleep image, if they have more than 2GB of ram.
Frankly, it seems whoever you spoke to doesn't really know what they are talking about.
On 10 Oct 2012, at 7:09pm, Doug Yelmen <dougyelmen@earthlin
> well, john, i've been putting my iMac to sleep since i got it in 2010.
> thx.
> doug
> Doug Yelmen
> dougyelmen@earthlin
>
> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>
> On Oct 9, 2012, at 8:41 AM, John Engberg <mrbyte@earthlink.
>
>> I believe that a sleep image is never created if you do not let your hard drive sleep.
>>
>> John Engberg
>>
>> On Oct 9, 2012, at 11:07 AM, Chris Jones <jonesc@hep.phy.
>>
>>> On 09/10/12 15:08, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>>> i don't understand.
>>>
>>> Its not rocket science... The sleepimage file is only created if and
>>> when the system needs it. When it hiberates. If it wasn't there before,
>>> then your machine had never needed to make it beforehad.
>>>
>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>> dougyelmen@earthlin
>>>>
>>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Chris Jones<jonesc@hep.phy.
>>>>
>>>>> On 08/10/12 17:23, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>>>>> my point is it was never there at 17GBs before last week.
>>>>>
>>>>> you probably then hadn't done whatever was needed to create it, like
>>>>> hibernate.
>>>>>
>>>>>> doug
>>>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>>>> dougyelmen@earthlin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 8:32 AM, Chris Jones<jonesc@hep.phy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 08/10/12 16:29, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>>>>>>> thanks, Mike.
>>>>>>>> the page Tim put in his reply is the same page i used to try to get rid of it.
>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.
>>>>>>>> i might call Apple.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do you expect them to say.... This file is *needed* when your
>>>>>>> machine is put to sleep. You can delete it if you want, but it will
>>>>>>> always comeback eventually, unless you never put your machine to sleep
>>>>>>> again... I'm afraid but you are just going to have to accept it I think.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cheers Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> doug
>>>>>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>>>>>> dougyelmen@earthlin
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 7:43 AM, mpstupinski@
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Doug,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For me and any others not aware of it, what the heck is sleepimage? 17GB of ANYTHING that shouldn't be there sounds like a major problem!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...........Mike
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --- In macsupportcentral@
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> i suddenly inherited 17GBs of sleepimage. i've read it can be gotten rid of. i entered the command line i read from some guy off of google.
>>>>>>>>>> but it came back. it wasn't there until recently?
>>>>>>>>>> can someone tell me how to get rid of it. it is important (to me) because it is on my only 120GB SSD. (i shoulda)
>>>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> doug
>>>>>>>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>>>>>>>> dougyelmen@.
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Not the first time that an Apple Genius has been quoted giving bad info.
(HUGE snip.)
Otto
On 11 October 2012 00:06, Chris Jones <jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk > wrote:
>
> Yes, iMac *can* hibernate. Normally they won't, but they can do it, and if
> they do they will use more than 2GB of sleep image, if they have more than
> 2GB of ram.
>
> Frankly, it seems whoever you spoke to doesn't really know what they are
> talking about.
>
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On 11 October 2012 00:06, Chris Jones <jonesc@hep.phy.
>
> Yes, iMac *can* hibernate. Normally they won't, but they can do it, and if
> they do they will use more than 2GB of sleep image, if they have more than
> 2GB of ram.
>
> Frankly, it seems whoever you spoke to doesn't really know what they are
> talking about.
>
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Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:47 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Michael P. Stupinski" mstupinski
What would initiate a 'hibernation' on an iMac? There's no selection for it in Energy Saver.
...............Mike
On Oct 10, 2012, at 7:06 PM, Chris Jones <jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk > wrote:
>
> Yes, iMac *can* hibernate. Normally they won't, but they can do it, and if they do they will use more than 2GB of sleep image, if they have more than 2GB of ram.
>
> Frankly, it seems whoever you spoke to doesn't really know what they are talking about.
>
> On 10 Oct 2012, at 7:09pm, Doug Yelmen <dougyelmen@earthlink.net > wrote:
>
>> well, john, i've been putting my iMac to sleep since i got it in 2010.
>> thx.
>> doug
>> Doug Yelmen
>> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>>
>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>
>> On Oct 9, 2012, at 8:41 AM, John Engberg <mrbyte@earthlink.net > wrote:
>>
>>> I believe that a sleep image is never created if you do not let your hard drive sleep.
>>>
>>> John Engberg
>>>
>>> On Oct 9, 2012, at 11:07 AM, Chris Jones <jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 09/10/12 15:08, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>>>> i don't understand.
>>>>
>>>> Its not rocket science... The sleepimage file is only created if and
>>>> when the system needs it. When it hiberates. If it wasn't there before,
>>>> then your machine had never needed to make it beforehad.
>>>>
>>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>>> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Chris Jones<jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 08/10/12 17:23, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>>>>>> my point is it was never there at 17GBs before last week.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you probably then hadn't done whatever was needed to create it, like
>>>>>> hibernate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> doug
>>>>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>>>>> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 8:32 AM, Chris Jones<jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 08/10/12 16:29, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>>>>>>>> thanks, Mike.
>>>>>>>>> the page Tim put in his reply is the same page i used to try to get rid of it.
>>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2010/10/11/sleepimage-mac/
>>>>>>>>> i might call Apple.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What do you expect them to say.... This file is *needed* when your
>>>>>>>> machine is put to sleep. You can delete it if you want, but it will
>>>>>>>> always comeback eventually, unless you never put your machine to sleep
>>>>>>>> again... I'm afraid but you are just going to have to accept it I think.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> cheers Chris
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> doug
>>>>>>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>>>>>>> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 7:43 AM, mpstupinski@snet.net wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Doug,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For me and any others not aware of it, what the heck is sleepimage? 17GB of ANYTHING that shouldn't be there sounds like a major problem!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ...........Mike
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Doug Yelmen<dougyelmen@...> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> i suddenly inherited 17GBs of sleepimage. i've read it can be gotten rid of. i entered the command line i read from some guy off of google.
>>>>>>>>>>> but it came back. it wasn't there until recently?
>>>>>>>>>>> can someone tell me how to get rid of it. it is important (to me) because it is on my only 120GB SSD. (i shoulda)
>>>>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> doug
>>>>>>>>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>>>>>>>>> dougyelmen@...
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>
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>
> Frankly, it seems whoever you spoke to doesn't really know what they are talking about.
>
> On 10 Oct 2012, at 7:09pm, Doug Yelmen <dougyelmen@earthlin
>
>> well, john, i've been putting my iMac to sleep since i got it in 2010.
>> thx.
>> doug
>> Doug Yelmen
>> dougyelmen@earthlin
>>
>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>
>> On Oct 9, 2012, at 8:41 AM, John Engberg <mrbyte@earthlink.
>>
>>> I believe that a sleep image is never created if you do not let your hard drive sleep.
>>>
>>> John Engberg
>>>
>>> On Oct 9, 2012, at 11:07 AM, Chris Jones <jonesc@hep.phy.
>>>
>>>> On 09/10/12 15:08, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>>>> i don't understand.
>>>>
>>>> Its not rocket science... The sleepimage file is only created if and
>>>> when the system needs it. When it hiberates. If it wasn't there before,
>>>> then your machine had never needed to make it beforehad.
>>>>
>>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>>> dougyelmen@earthlin
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Chris Jones<jonesc@hep.phy.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 08/10/12 17:23, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>>>>>> my point is it was never there at 17GBs before last week.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you probably then hadn't done whatever was needed to create it, like
>>>>>> hibernate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> doug
>>>>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>>>>> dougyelmen@earthlin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 8:32 AM, Chris Jones<jonesc@hep.phy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 08/10/12 16:29, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>>>>>>>> thanks, Mike.
>>>>>>>>> the page Tim put in his reply is the same page i used to try to get rid of it.
>>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.
>>>>>>>>> i might call Apple.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What do you expect them to say.... This file is *needed* when your
>>>>>>>> machine is put to sleep. You can delete it if you want, but it will
>>>>>>>> always comeback eventually, unless you never put your machine to sleep
>>>>>>>> again... I'm afraid but you are just going to have to accept it I think.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> cheers Chris
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> doug
>>>>>>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>>>>>>> dougyelmen@earthlin
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 7:43 AM, mpstupinski@
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Doug,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For me and any others not aware of it, what the heck is sleepimage? 17GB of ANYTHING that shouldn't be there sounds like a major problem!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ...........Mike
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --- In macsupportcentral@
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> i suddenly inherited 17GBs of sleepimage. i've read it can be gotten rid of. i entered the command line i read from some guy off of google.
>>>>>>>>>>> but it came back. it wasn't there until recently?
>>>>>>>>>>> can someone tell me how to get rid of it. it is important (to me) because it is on my only 120GB SSD. (i shoulda)
>>>>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> doug
>>>>>>>>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>>>>>>>>> dougyelmen@.
>>>>>>>>>>>
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Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:58 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Chris Jones" bobstermcbob
you can force in on a iMac in exactly the same way as on a mac book. The only difference is a iMac doesn't have a battery, so lacks the automate triggering of it when the juice runs out.
There are plenty of articles on the web. e.g.
http://www.geekguid
Quite how the OP caused his machine to do it, I cannot answer, and frankly at this juncture I no longer really care.
this discussion is getting boring. please lets move on…
cheers Chris
On 11 Oct 2012, at 12:47am, Michael P. Stupinski <mpstupinski@
> What would initiate a 'hibernation' on an iMac? There's no selection for it in Energy Saver.
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> On Oct 10, 2012, at 7:06 PM, Chris Jones <jonesc@hep.phy.
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>>
>> Yes, iMac *can* hibernate. Normally they won't, but they can do it, and if they do they will use more than 2GB of sleep image, if they have more than 2GB of ram.
>>
>> Frankly, it seems whoever you spoke to doesn't really know what they are talking about.
>>
>> On 10 Oct 2012, at 7:09pm, Doug Yelmen <dougyelmen@earthlin
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>>> well, john, i've been putting my iMac to sleep since i got it in 2010.
>>> thx.
>>> doug
>>> Doug Yelmen
>>> dougyelmen@earthlin
>>>
>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>>
>>> On Oct 9, 2012, at 8:41 AM, John Engberg <mrbyte@earthlink.
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>>>> I believe that a sleep image is never created if you do not let your hard drive sleep.
>>>>
>>>> John Engberg
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 9, 2012, at 11:07 AM, Chris Jones <jonesc@hep.phy.
>>>>
>>>>> On 09/10/12 15:08, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>>>>> i don't understand.
>>>>>
>>>>> Its not rocket science... The sleepimage file is only created if and
>>>>> when the system needs it. When it hiberates. If it wasn't there before,
>>>>> then your machine had never needed to make it beforehad.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>>>> dougyelmen@earthlin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Chris Jones<jonesc@hep.phy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 08/10/12 17:23, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>>>>>>> my point is it was never there at 17GBs before last week.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you probably then hadn't done whatever was needed to create it, like
>>>>>>> hibernate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> doug
>>>>>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>>>>>> dougyelmen@earthlin
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 8:32 AM, Chris Jones<jonesc@hep.phy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 08/10/12 16:29, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> thanks, Mike.
>>>>>>>>>> the page Tim put in his reply is the same page i used to try to get rid of it.
>>>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.
>>>>>>>>>> i might call Apple.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What do you expect them to say.... This file is *needed* when your
>>>>>>>>> machine is put to sleep. You can delete it if you want, but it will
>>>>>>>>> always comeback eventually, unless you never put your machine to sleep
>>>>>>>>> again... I'm afraid but you are just going to have to accept it I think.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> cheers Chris
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> doug
>>>>>>>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>>>>>>>> dougyelmen@earthlin
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 7:43 AM, mpstupinski@
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Doug,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> For me and any others not aware of it, what the heck is sleepimage? 17GB of ANYTHING that shouldn't be there sounds like a major problem!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ...........Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --- In macsupportcentral@
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> i suddenly inherited 17GBs of sleepimage. i've read it can be gotten rid of. i entered the command line i read from some guy off of google.
>>>>>>>>>>>> but it came back. it wasn't there until recently?
>>>>>>>>>>>> can someone tell me how to get rid of it. it is important (to me) because it is on my only 120GB SSD. (i shoulda)
>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> doug
>>>>>>>>>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>>>>>>>>>> dougyelmen@.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
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