10/10/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 9167

15 New Messages

Digest #9167
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Re: Apple Maps Question by "pat412255" pat412255
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Re: Calendar Colors by "Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
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Re: sleepimage   17GBs of it by "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen
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Re: sleepimage   17GBs of it by "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen
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Re: sleepimage   17GBs of it by "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen
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Re: sleepimage 17GBs of it by "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen
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Re: sleepimage 17GBs of it by "Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
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Re: Is there a way to disable MAIL? by "Denver Dan" denverdan22180
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Re: Is there a way to disable MAIL? by "Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
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Re: Is there a way to disable MAIL? by "Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
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How to refresh Safari by "LouisD" ldina
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Re: How to refresh Safari by "Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

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Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:53 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"pat412255" pat412255

I found this on the Apple support site:

Touch the pin, when the label comes up, to the right of the label is a blue arrow. Touch that and the screen should come up about the pin, and one of the selections is Remove pin. If it is from the search of an address, you need to touch the "X" at the end of the address bar in the search to remove the address, which will remove the pin.

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "Bert" <bmccall@...> wrote:
>
> I have one problem with Apple Maps on my iPad I could use some help with. I've generated a lot of location pins on my maps but I can't find how to delete them. Can anyone offer some guidance on that subject?
>

Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:59 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

I don't know if this has changed but in my version (3.0.8) events take
their colour from the calendar they're in. You change this using Get Info
on the calendar.

Otto

On 10 October 2012 17:37, Richard Prokopchuk <THEWIZARDOFAZ@cox.net> wrote:

> Hi,
> I use the Apple Calendar app, v. 6.0. I have it email me or reminder me
> events as I need to do them. It's as big help in not forgetting to pay
> bills. Sometime back, I assigned colors to various events and reminders.
> Red is the color of a reminder to pay a bill. I change to green when I pay
> it. There are other event types with their own color. But, somehow I've
> duplicated colors and my color list is quite large. Can anyone tell me how
> I can edit or remove certain colors from the calendar? I'd appreciate it.
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Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:07 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen

i know. i explained that. that i have 16 GBs of RAM.
the woman was a senior advisor. she said if it gets bigger than
2GBs call back. well, it is still 17GBs. and this is just recent.
so i don't know what to make of it.
telling me i should leave it alone wasn't helpful.
so, i appreciate your email, and that of others.

doug
Doug Yelmen
dougyelmen@earthlink.net

I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse

On Oct 9, 2012, at 8:04 AM, Chris Jones <jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> How much ram do you have ? If you have more than 2GB then who ever you
> spoke to doesn't really know what they are talking about. It will be as
> large as it needs to be to hold an image of what your machine had in
> ram. If you have more than 2GB ram, it will be bigger, basically, the
> size of your installed ram.
>
> Chris
>
> On 09/10/12 15:11, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>> i talk to a senior advisor at apple. she walked me through it the terminal commands. she said it ought to no more than 2 GBs, and to call
>> back if it got bigger. that doesn't sound like it is just supposed to be that way. plus, it is new. i know exactly how much space was taken
>> up, after all, it is a 120 GB SSD. i have been real careful about what i put on it.
>> i don't recommend playing with it either. but, i had apple do it for me. to no avail. so far.
>>
>> thanks for the input, tho.
>>
>> doug
>> Doug Yelmen
>> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>>
>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:30 AM, N.A. Nada<whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Doug, from the sound of it, it is part of the OS. I'm guessing you found it in a hidden folder. That is why Apple hid it, so people would not play with it and other things.
>>>
>>> That and the next OS upgrade will probably reinstall it if you delete the ability of the system to create it.
>>>
>>> KISS, Keep It Simple Sam. Or in other words, the more you modify your system, the more problems you probably will encounter, and the harder it will be to troubleshoot.
>>>
>>> Brent
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 8:29 AM, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>>
>>> thanks, Mike.
>>> the page Tim put in his reply is the same page i used to try to get rid of it.
>>> http://osxdaily.com/2010/10/11/sleepimage-mac/
>>> i might call Apple.
>>> doug
>>> Doug Yelmen
>>> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>>>
>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 7:43 AM, mpstupinski@snet.net wrote:
>>>
>>>> Doug,
>>>>
>>>> For me and any others not aware of it, what the heck is sleepimage? 17GB of ANYTHING that shouldn't be there sounds like a major problem!
>>>>
>>>> ...........Mike
>>>>
>>>> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Doug Yelmen<dougyelmen@...> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> i suddenly inherited 17GBs of sleepimage. i've read it can be gotten rid of. i entered the command line i read from some guy off of google.
>>>>> but it came back. it wasn't there until recently?
>>>>> can someone tell me how to get rid of it. it is important (to me) because it is on my only 120GB SSD. (i shoulda)
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> doug
>>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>>> dougyelmen@...
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Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:08 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen

do iMacs hibernate? i don't think so.
i love sarcasm.
doug
Doug Yelmen
dougyelmen@earthlink.net

I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse

On Oct 9, 2012, at 8:07 AM, Chris Jones <jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> On 09/10/12 15:08, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>> i don't understand.
>
> Its not rocket science... The sleepimage file is only created if and
> when the system needs it. When it hiberates. If it wasn't there before,
> then your machine had never needed to make it beforehad.
>
>> Doug Yelmen
>> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>>
>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Chris Jones<jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 08/10/12 17:23, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>>> my point is it was never there at 17GBs before last week.
>>>
>>> you probably then hadn't done whatever was needed to create it, like
>>> hibernate.
>>>
>>>> doug
>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>>>>
>>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 8:32 AM, Chris Jones<jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 08/10/12 16:29, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>>>>> thanks, Mike.
>>>>>> the page Tim put in his reply is the same page i used to try to get rid of it.
>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2010/10/11/sleepimage-mac/
>>>>>> i might call Apple.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you expect them to say.... This file is *needed* when your
>>>>> machine is put to sleep. You can delete it if you want, but it will
>>>>> always comeback eventually, unless you never put your machine to sleep
>>>>> again... I'm afraid but you are just going to have to accept it I think.
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>> doug
>>>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>>>> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 7:43 AM, mpstupinski@snet.net wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Doug,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For me and any others not aware of it, what the heck is sleepimage? 17GB of ANYTHING that shouldn't be there sounds like a major problem!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...........Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Doug Yelmen<dougyelmen@...> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i suddenly inherited 17GBs of sleepimage. i've read it can be gotten rid of. i entered the command line i read from some guy off of google.
>>>>>>>> but it came back. it wasn't there until recently?
>>>>>>>> can someone tell me how to get rid of it. it is important (to me) because it is on my only 120GB SSD. (i shoulda)
>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> doug
>>>>>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>>>>>> dougyelmen@...
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Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:09 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen

well, john, i've been putting my iMac to sleep since i got it in 2010.
thx.
doug
Doug Yelmen
dougyelmen@earthlink.net

I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse

On Oct 9, 2012, at 8:41 AM, John Engberg <mrbyte@earthlink.net> wrote:

> I believe that a sleep image is never created if you do not let your hard drive sleep.
>
> John Engberg
>
> On Oct 9, 2012, at 11:07 AM, Chris Jones <jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 09/10/12 15:08, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>> i don't understand.
>>
>> Its not rocket science... The sleepimage file is only created if and
>> when the system needs it. When it hiberates. If it wasn't there before,
>> then your machine had never needed to make it beforehad.
>>
>>> Doug Yelmen
>>> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>>>
>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Chris Jones<jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 08/10/12 17:23, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>>>> my point is it was never there at 17GBs before last week.
>>>>
>>>> you probably then hadn't done whatever was needed to create it, like
>>>> hibernate.
>>>>
>>>>> doug
>>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>>> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 8:32 AM, Chris Jones<jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 08/10/12 16:29, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>>>>>> thanks, Mike.
>>>>>>> the page Tim put in his reply is the same page i used to try to get rid of it.
>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2010/10/11/sleepimage-mac/
>>>>>>> i might call Apple.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you expect them to say.... This file is *needed* when your
>>>>>> machine is put to sleep. You can delete it if you want, but it will
>>>>>> always comeback eventually, unless you never put your machine to sleep
>>>>>> again... I'm afraid but you are just going to have to accept it I think.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cheers Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> doug
>>>>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>>>>> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 7:43 AM, mpstupinski@snet.net wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Doug,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For me and any others not aware of it, what the heck is sleepimage? 17GB of ANYTHING that shouldn't be there sounds like a major problem!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...........Mike
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Doug Yelmen<dougyelmen@...> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i suddenly inherited 17GBs of sleepimage. i've read it can be gotten rid of. i entered the command line i read from some guy off of google.
>>>>>>>>> but it came back. it wasn't there until recently?
>>>>>>>>> can someone tell me how to get rid of it. it is important (to me) because it is on my only 120GB SSD. (i shoulda)
>>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> doug
>>>>>>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>>>>>>> dougyelmen@...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse
>>>>>>>>>
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Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:11 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen

do iMacs hibernate? i thought you guys said only laptops hibernate.

if a senior advisor who walked me through a bunch of terminal commands couldn't fix it,
i am not sure i want to trust googling it, and putting some commands into terminal i don't
understand. you know what i mean?
thx.

doug
Doug Yelmen
dougyelmen@earthlink.net

I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~ Henri Matisse

On Oct 9, 2012, at 8:43 AM, Bill Boulware <bill.boulware@gmail.com> wrote:

> You can set the sleep image type either to write, not write, write only if
> hibernate, etc - google turning off sleep image - there is a command line
> code you enter, I did it on both of my MB Airs to prevent the writing of a
> sleep image each time.
>
> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 11:41 AM, John Engberg <mrbyte@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> I believe that a sleep image is never created if you do not let your hard
>> drive sleep.
>>
>> John Engberg
>>
>>
>> On Oct 9, 2012, at 11:07 AM, Chris Jones <jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 09/10/12 15:08, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>>> i don't understand.
>>>
>>> Its not rocket science... The sleepimage file is only created if and
>>> when the system needs it. When it hiberates. If it wasn't there before,
>>> then your machine had never needed to make it beforehad.
>>>
>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>>>>
>>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~
>> Henri Matisse
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Chris Jones<jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 08/10/12 17:23, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>>>>> my point is it was never there at 17GBs before last week.
>>>>>
>>>>> you probably then hadn't done whatever was needed to create it, like
>>>>> hibernate.
>>>>>
>>>>>> doug
>>>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>>>> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things." ~
>> Henri Matisse
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 8:32 AM, Chris Jones<jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 08/10/12 16:29, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>>>>>>> thanks, Mike.
>>>>>>>> the page Tim put in his reply is the same page i used to try to get
>> rid of it.
>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2010/10/11/sleepimage-mac/
>>>>>>>> i might call Apple.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do you expect them to say.... This file is *needed* when your
>>>>>>> machine is put to sleep. You can delete it if you want, but it will
>>>>>>> always comeback eventually, unless you never put your machine to
>> sleep
>>>>>>> again... I'm afraid but you are just going to have to accept it I
>> think.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cheers Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> doug
>>>>>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>>>>>> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between things."
>> ~ Henri Matisse
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 7:43 AM, mpstupinski@snet.net wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Doug,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For me and any others not aware of it, what the heck is
>> sleepimage? 17GB of ANYTHING that shouldn't be there sounds like a major
>> problem!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...........Mike
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Doug Yelmen<dougyelmen@...>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> i suddenly inherited 17GBs of sleepimage. i've read it can be
>> gotten rid of. i entered the command line i read from some guy off of
>> google.
>>>>>>>>>> but it came back. it wasn't there until recently?
>>>>>>>>>> can someone tell me how to get rid of it. it is important (to me)
>> because it is on my only 120GB SSD. (i shoulda)
>>>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> doug
>>>>>>>>>> Doug Yelmen
>>>>>>>>>> dougyelmen@...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't paint things. I only paint the difference between
>> things." ~ Henri Matisse
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Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:17 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

> if a senior advisor who walked me through a bunch of terminal commands couldn't fix it, i am not sure i want to trust googling it, and putting some commands into terminal i don't understand. you know what i mean?
> doug

Then there hardly seems any point in discussing it further, does there?

Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:21 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"neelie" neeliec2000

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@...> wrote:
>
> >>> I do not use the MAIL program that came with my iMac. I use Yahoo mail. I am using OS 10.6.8 and have no plans to update in the near future.
> >>
> >> In Mail.app, under the Mail menu, in Preferences, do you have the option to choose your Yahoo mail as the default email program?
> >
> > There is a "General" preference that allows me to change my email "reader" from "Mail App" to something else. But I don't know how to choose Yahoo mail because I don't think there is actually an App for Yahoo mail. If there is I don't know where to look for it. There isn't one in my applications folder that I can find, and doing a search of my hard drive gave no results.
>
> As far as I am aware, if you are reading email "in Yahoo", then you are reading your mail in a web browser (like Safari).
>
> That would make you one of the VERY few people I have encountered who *choose* to "do" mail through the web interface rather than with a dedicated mail program.
>
> I resort to the web interface only when circumstances conspire to prevent me from doing anything else.
>
> And I do not believe there is any way to specify to the system a browser itself (as opposed to certain browsers that include dedicated mail programs within them) as your email program.
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> --
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> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@...

Thank you Jim. Yes, I am using Firefox (and sometimes Safari) to read my mail. I'm happy with this set up for now. I'll continue to deal with the MAIL issue, probably by having to quit it after it starts up each time. :-)
neelie

Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:28 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"neelie" neeliec2000

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Christopher Collins <maclist@...> wrote:
>
> One can create an SSB with Fluid that points to Yahoo Mail and then using the RCDefaultApp prefpane, point email towards that.
>
> cjc

I'm sorry - I don't understand this.
neelie

Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:32 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Howdy.

Apple Mail has long had a feature in preferences that just turns it
off.

So if you don't want Mail to download messages, although I can't
understand why you wouldn't, you can check the chick box and turn it
off, or, you can just delete the Yahoo account in Apple's Mail program.

Denver Dan

On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 14:47:11 +0000, jayant m wrote:
>
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@...> wrote:
>>
>>>>> I do not use the MAIL program that came with my iMac. I use
>>>>> Yahoo mail. I am using OS 10.6.8 and have no plans to update in
>>>>> the near future.
>>>>
>>
>> As far as I am aware, if you are reading email "in Yahoo", then you
>> are reading your mail in a web browser (like Safari).
>>
>> That would make you one of the VERY few people I have encountered
>> who *choose* to "do" mail through the web interface rather than with
>> a dedicated mail program.
>>
>> I resort to the web interface only when circumstances conspire to
>> prevent me from doing anything else.
>>
>> And I do not believe there is any way to specify to the system a
>> browser itself (as opposed to certain browsers that include
>> dedicated mail programs within them) as your email program.
>>
>> --
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@...
>>
>
>
> Surely a matter of choice. I have the same problem. Mail starts up
> arbitrarily and then starts downloading huge numbers of messages from
> my Yahoo account. I looked around for means to bypass this a couple
> of years ago but couldn't find anything.
>
> Jayant

Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:29 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

>> As far as I am aware, if you are reading email "in Yahoo", then you are reading your mail in a web browser (like Safari).
>>
>> That would make you one of the VERY few people I have encountered who *choose* to "do" mail through the web interface rather than with a dedicated mail program.
>>
>> I resort to the web interface only when circumstances conspire to prevent me from doing anything else.
>>
>> And I do not believe there is any way to specify to the system a browser itself (as opposed to certain browsers that include dedicated mail programs within them) as your email program.
>
> Surely a matter of choice. I have the same problem. Mail starts up arbitrarily and then starts downloading huge numbers of messages from my Yahoo account. I looked around for means to bypass this a couple of years ago but couldn't find anything.
> Jayant

Of course it's a matter of choice. And choices have consequences. One of the consequences of choosing to read one's email through a generic web interface seems to be that, when you select an email link in a message or website, the system's default mail program will open, because there's no psychic method for the OS to know to open your web browser of choice to, for example, your Yahoo webmail page.

I can't imagine how you have Mail set up to cause it to open spontaneously. My version is tame and obedient, opening only when I tell it to. One of the ways I can tell it to is to tap on an email link.

If you really want never to use the Mail App, then go to Settings -- Mail, Contacts, Calendars and delete any mail accounts you find there.

Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:34 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

>> Surely a matter of choice. I have the same problem. Mail starts up arbitrarily and then starts downloading huge numbers of messages from my Yahoo account. I looked around for means to bypass this a couple of years ago but couldn't find anything.
>> Jayant
>
> Of course it's a matter of choice. And choices have consequences. One of the consequences of choosing to read one's email through a generic web interface seems to be that, when you select an email link in a message or website, the system's default mail program will open, because there's no psychic method for the OS to know to open your web browser of choice to, for example, your Yahoo webmail page.
>
> I can't imagine how you have Mail set up to cause it to open spontaneously. My version is tame and obedient, opening only when I tell it to. One of the ways I can tell it to is to tap on an email link.
>
> If you really want never to use the Mail App, then go to Settings -- Mail, Contacts, Calendars and delete any mail accounts you find there.

Oops. I just came from the iPad forum, which the "Settings" thing applies to.
Otto's directions were correct.

Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:09 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"neelie" neeliec2000

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "jayant m" <jmurthy@...> wrote:

snip
> Surely a matter of choice. I have the same problem. Mail starts up arbitrarily and then starts downloading huge numbers of messages from my Yahoo account. I looked around for means to bypass this a couple of years ago but couldn't find anything.
>
> Jayant
>

Thank you Jayant. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one to make this choice and to have similar issues. I appreciate the response.
neelie

Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:55 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"LouisD" ldina

I recently updated an image on my website, but the old version of the image (same image number) continues to display on my Mac Pro (OSX 8.2 and Safari 6.0.1). It displays correctly on my iPad, so I know the image has been uploaded and posted correctly on the website. It's always worked fine when doing this in the past, but for some reason, my old version of the image continues to display on my Mac.

How do I clear my cache and refresh Safari so it will reload the page with the proper image? I don't want to trash all my passwords, cookies, etc, so if there are any settings, please be specific about which ones will clear out my images and reload from scratch.

Thx,

Lou

Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:58 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

Safari > Empty Cache?

Otto

On 10 October 2012 19:55, LouisD <lou@loudina.com> wrote:

> I recently updated an image on my website, but the old version of the
> image (same image number) continues to display on my Mac Pro (OSX 8.2 and
> Safari 6.0.1). It displays correctly on my iPad, so I know the image has
> been uploaded and posted correctly on the website. It's always worked fine
> when doing this in the past, but for some reason, my old version of the
> image continues to display on my Mac.
>
> How do I clear my cache and refresh Safari so it will reload the page with
> the proper image? I don't want to trash all my passwords, cookies, etc, so
> if there are any settings, please be specific about which ones will clear
> out my images and reload from scratch.
>

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