6/04/2013

[macsupport] Digest Number 9575

13 New Messages

Digest #9575
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mail stays in outbox, servers offline by "fussyoldfart" fussyoldfart
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Re: mail stays in outbox, servers offline by "fussyoldfart" fussyoldfart
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Re: mail stays in outbox, servers offline by "fussyoldfart" fussyoldfart
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Re: recording software from vinyl to cd by "Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger
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Messages

Mon Jun 3, 2013 5:37 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Ross Rasmussen" rossrasmussen

try double clicking on the email to open it in its own window. it should show you the picture and allow you to control-click on the picture to save it.

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Mon Jun 3, 2013 6:30 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"HAL9000" jrswebhome

> Have you tried Details > Quick Look? How about Save?

There is no Details/Quick Look in my Mountain Lion Mail.

> The attachments I sent are visible right there when I look
> at the message in the Sent mailbox.

Not in mine.

> You should be able to see it just like the recipient of the
> email sees it; that is, it should be open somewhere in the text field.

No I don't, that is why I wrote my issue.

> try double clicking on the email to open it in its own window

Opening the sent mail w attachment reveals no image. Mail
has been like this for along time.

Mon Jun 3, 2013 6:58 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Forrest Leedy" forrkazu


On Jun 3, 2013, at 9:30 PM, "HAL9000" <jrswebhome@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> Have you tried Details > Quick Look? How about Save?
>
> There is no Details/Quick Look in my Mountain Lion Mail.
>
>> The attachments I sent are visible right there when I look
>> at the message in the Sent mailbox.
>
> Not in mine.
>
>> You should be able to see it just like the recipient of the
>> email sees it; that is, it should be open somewhere in the text field.
>
> No I don't, that is why I wrote my issue.
>
>> try double clicking on the email to open it in its own window
>
> Opening the sent mail w attachment reveals no image. Mail
> has been like this for along time.

Very strange, sounds like you have a corrupted email program. I think that we have covered all bases and I for one cannot think of any other solution.

Forrest

Mon Jun 3, 2013 9:08 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"HAL9000" jrswebhome

I stand corrected thanks to Otto.

If I select the specific Sent Email then hit Apple+Y, Quick Look does open the attached image. That's a new one to me. The image is invisible on the sent email and yet I can view it w Apple+Y.

This must be some programmed way to speed up Mail by hiding any attachments.

Thanks, Otto.

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:
>
> Have you tried Details > Quick Look? How about Save?
>
> Otto
>
> On 3 June 2013 22:18, HAL9000 <jrswebhome@...> wrote:
>
> > 27" iMac, 3.06 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 12gig RAM, OSX10.8.3, 1 TBHD
> >
> > Is it possible to view a jpg image that I attached to a past Sent Email in
> > Apple Mail. I learned how to REVEAL attachments in the list, but I still
> > cannot SEE the picture I attached to an email I have sent in the past.
> >
> > I can see that the picture is there because the size of the message. I
> > just cannot see the image. Anyone know of a way?
> >
> > I think I have brought this up in the past. I hope not in the recent past.
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Tue Jun 4, 2013 3:00 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

I guessed that the "normal" method didn't work, or you would not have asked
the question. Now, why does Quick Look work? I can't find any preference
that would hide attachments in "normal" view.

Otto

On 4 June 2013 05:08, HAL9000 <jrswebhome@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I stand corrected thanks to Otto.
>
> If I select the specific Sent Email then hit Apple+Y, Quick Look does open
> the attached image. That's a new one to me. The image is invisible on the
> sent email and yet I can view it w Apple+Y.
>
> This must be some programmed way to speed up Mail by hiding any
> attachments.
>

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Mon Jun 3, 2013 7:49 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"fussyoldfart" fussyoldfart

I recently switched from a local cable provider to Bell.net which is the much larger telephone company. Since then my mail will "hang" in the outbox anywhere from hours to days to forever, currently. When I go to the connection doctor it shows that my bell accounts are offline, my yahoo accounts are also offline but (currently at lease) my gmail accounts show "connection succeeded". I do receive some email although I am not confident that I get everything. Some of my correspondents become confused when I manage to reply by copying the message into gmail and sending from an unfamiliar address.

Googling the symptoms shows that this is a very common experience for many people and the suggested fixes are so varied that I am left confused. I have tried some of the fixes but none so far has been the right one for me.

I am writing this query on my iPad, using my Yahoo account which seems to work here.

For the next few weeks the iPad will be my sole connection with the net while I travel but I would love to find one final fix.

BTW the provider, on two previous occasions has had me allow remote control and clicked around for a while to re-establish the connection but it has not been permanent nor have I learned anything in the process.

I am running Mountain Lion on my iMac and, for others, this seems to have been a starting point for a similar problem.

Mon Jun 3, 2013 8:06 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"fussyoldfart" fussyoldfart



Further to this message, I have just tried to connect to my Bell account through netmail and found dozens of unread messages. I did this on the iPad, don't know if I can do it in the iMac, must go to bed now, travel tomorrow.

Darrell McDonald (fussyoldfart)
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "fussyoldfart&quot; <fussyoldfart@...> wrote:
>
> I recently switched from a local cable provider to Bell.net which is the much larger telephone company. Since then my mail will "hang" in the outbox anywhere from hours to days to forever, currently. When I go to the connection doctor it shows that my bell accounts are offline, my yahoo accounts are also offline but (currently at lease) my gmail accounts show "connection succeeded". I do receive some email although I am not confident that I get everything. Some of my correspondents become confused when I manage to reply by copying the message into gmail and sending from an unfamiliar address.
>
> Googling the symptoms shows that this is a very common experience for many people and the suggested fixes are so varied that I am left confused. I have tried some of the fixes but none so far has been the right one for me.
>
> I am writing this query on my iPad, using my Yahoo account which seems to work here.
>
> For the next few weeks the iPad will be my sole connection with the net while I travel but I would love to find one final fix.
>
> BTW the provider, on two previous occasions has had me allow remote control and clicked around for a while to re-establish the connection but it has not been permanent nor have I learned anything in the process.
>
> I am running Mountain Lion on my iMac and, for others, this seems to have been a starting point for a similar problem.
>

Tue Jun 4, 2013 12:58 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

Well, it did not get to the list by way of yahoo, since it shows your e-ddress as gmail.

Could it be that you are trying to use a gmail e-ddress from a yahoo mail app? Yahoo may not like the gmail e-ddy.

What are you using to read your email on your iPad? Yahoo web mail, a yahoo mail app, Apple's Mail.app, what?

And on what machine are the emails hanging in the outbox? The iPad, a Mac or PC?

We're not mind readers, you have to tell us.

Brent

On Jun 3, 2013, at 8:06 PM, fussyoldfart wrote:

Further to this message, I have just tried to connect to my Bell account through netmail and found dozens of unread messages. I did this on the iPad, don't know if I can do it in the iMac, must go to bed now, travel tomorrow.

Darrell McDonald (fussyoldfart)
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "fussyoldfart&quot; <fussyoldfart@...> wrote:
>
> I recently switched from a local cable provider to Bell.net which is the much larger telephone company. Since then my mail will "hang" in the outbox anywhere from hours to days to forever, currently. When I go to the connection doctor it shows that my bell accounts are offline, my yahoo accounts are also offline but (currently at lease) my gmail accounts show "connection succeeded". I do receive some email although I am not confident that I get everything. Some of my correspondents become confused when I manage to reply by copying the message into gmail and sending from an unfamiliar address.
>
> Googling the symptoms shows that this is a very common experience for many people and the suggested fixes are so varied that I am left confused. I have tried some of the fixes but none so far has been the right one for me.
>
> I am writing this query on my iPad, using my Yahoo account which seems to work here.
>
> For the next few weeks the iPad will be my sole connection with the net while I travel but I would love to find one final fix.
>
> BTW the provider, on two previous occasions has had me allow remote control and clicked around for a while to re-establish the connection but it has not been permanent nor have I learned anything in the process.
>
> I am running Mountain Lion on my iMac and, for others, this seems to have been a starting point for a similar problem.
>

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Tue Jun 4, 2013 1:56 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

Let me correct that. It did go thru yahoo.

The long headers show "X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster" but the sender is a gmail e-ddress. The servers at yahoo may not like permitting those through the server. And that may be why the outgoing email gets stuck in the outbox.

From the headers, X-Originating-Ip: 76.68.3.111 suggests your either in Canada or your ISP is in Canadian. You mentioned Bell.net in your original email, which is related to Microsoft, and the IP seems to be with Bell Canada or sympatico.

You have really got me confused and that may also be happening with your email.

Who is your ISP, who brings the wire to your house that provides your internet connection? That would not be gmail, or yahoo. Those are email accounts, not your Internet Service Providers.

Do you use an email app or web mail to send and receive your email?

Brent

On Jun 4, 2013, at 12:58 AM, N.A. Nada wrote:

Well, it did not get to the list by way of yahoo, since it shows your e-ddress as gmail.

Could it be that you are trying to use a gmail e-ddress from a yahoo mail app? Yahoo may not like the gmail e-ddy.

What are you using to read your email on your iPad? Yahoo web mail, a yahoo mail app, Apple's Mail.app, what?

And on what machine are the emails hanging in the outbox? The iPad, a Mac or PC?

We're not mind readers, you have to tell us.

Brent

On Jun 3, 2013, at 8:06 PM, fussyoldfart wrote:

Further to this message, I have just tried to connect to my Bell account through netmail and found dozens of unread messages. I did this on the iPad, don't know if I can do it in the iMac, must go to bed now, travel tomorrow.

Darrell McDonald (fussyoldfart)
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "fussyoldfart&quot; <fussyoldfart@...> wrote:
>
> I recently switched from a local cable provider to Bell.net which is the much larger telephone company. Since then my mail will "hang" in the outbox anywhere from hours to days to forever, currently. When I go to the connection doctor it shows that my bell accounts are offline, my yahoo accounts are also offline but (currently at lease) my gmail accounts show "connection succeeded". I do receive some email although I am not confident that I get everything. Some of my correspondents become confused when I manage to reply by copying the message into gmail and sending from an unfamiliar address.
>
> Googling the symptoms shows that this is a very common experience for many people and the suggested fixes are so varied that I am left confused. I have tried some of the fixes but none so far has been the right one for me.
>
> I am writing this query on my iPad, using my Yahoo account which seems to work here.
>
> For the next few weeks the iPad will be my sole connection with the net while I travel but I would love to find one final fix.
>
> BTW the provider, on two previous occasions has had me allow remote control and clicked around for a while to re-establish the connection but it has not been permanent nor have I learned anything in the process.
>
> I am running Mountain Lion on my iMac and, for others, this seems to have been a starting point for a similar problem.
>

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Tue Jun 4, 2013 6:02 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"fussyoldfart" fussyoldfart



--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@...> wrote:
>
> Let me correct that. It did go thru yahoo.
>
> The long headers show "X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster" but the sender is a gmail e-ddress. The servers at yahoo may not like permitting those through the server. And that may be why the outgoing email gets stuck in the outbox.
>
> From the headers, X-Originating-Ip: 76.68.3.111 suggests your either in Canada or your ISP is in Canadian. You mentioned Bell.net in your original email, which is related to Microsoft, and the IP seems to be with Bell Canada or sympatico.
>
> You have really got me confused and that may also be happening with your email.
>
> Who is your ISP, who brings the wire to your house that provides your internet connection? That would not be gmail, or yahoo. Those are email accounts, not your Internet Service Providers.
>
> Do you use an email app or web mail to send and receive your email?
>
> Brent
>
>
> On Jun 4, 2013, at 12:58 AM, N.A. Nada wrote:
>
> Well, it did not get to the list by way of yahoo, since it shows your e-ddress as gmail.
>
> Could it be that you are trying to use a gmail e-ddress from a yahoo mail app? Yahoo may not like the gmail e-ddy.
>
> What are you using to read your email on your iPad? Yahoo web mail, a yahoo mail app, Apple's Mail.app, what?
>
> And on what machine are the emails hanging in the outbox? The iPad, a Mac or PC?
>
> We're not mind readers, you have to tell us.
>
> Brent
>
> On Jun 3, 2013, at 8:06 PM, fussyoldfart wrote:
>
>
>
> Further to this message, I have just tried to connect to my Bell account through netmail and found dozens of unread messages. I did this on the iPad, don't know if I can do it in the iMac, must go to bed now, travel tomorrow.
>
> Darrell McDonald (fussyoldfart)
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "fussyoldfart&quot; <fussyoldfart@> wrote:
> >
> > I recently switched from a local cable provider to Bell.net which is the much larger telephone company. Since then my mail will "hang" in the outbox anywhere from hours to days to forever, currently. When I go to the connection doctor it shows that my bell accounts are offline, my yahoo accounts are also offline but (currently at lease) my gmail accounts show "connection succeeded". I do receive some email although I am not confident that I get everything. Some of my correspondents become confused when I manage to reply by copying the message into gmail and sending from an unfamiliar address.
> >
> > Googling the symptoms shows that this is a very common experience for many people and the suggested fixes are so varied that I am left confused. I have tried some of the fixes but none so far has been the right one for me.
> >
> > I am writing this query on my iPad, using my Yahoo account which seems to work here.
> >
> > For the next few weeks the iPad will be my sole connection with the net while I travel but I would love to find one final fix.
> >
> > BTW the provider, on two previous occasions has had me allow remote control and clicked around for a while to re-establish the connection but it has not been permanent nor have I learned anything in the process.
> >
> > I am running Mountain Lion on my iMac and, for others, this seems to have been a starting point for a similar problem.
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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Thanks Brent, Obviously I'm not very expert at this. I had to be when I used a PC but in the last 10 years with a Mac I have certainly become lazy.

The problem I am encountering is on my iMac with Mountain Lion and Mac MAIL. I had mail working fine before I switched to Bell Canada. It retrieved all my mail from whatever source and presented it under separate headings. Messages were on my computer, under my control. I am pecking this out on my iPad as I wait to depart on vacation. I think it will be best to wait until I return to my keyboard after I get back.

In the meantime I will have to learn to love netmail.

Darrell

Mon Jun 3, 2013 10:09 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Andrew Buc" andrewbuc

I recommend Audio Hijack Pro for recording and Fission for sound
editing, both by Rogue Amoeba. Package price if you buy both at the
same time. If your turntable doesn't already have a USB port, I
recommend the Griffin iMic:

http://store.griffintechnology.com/imic-1

Mon Jun 3, 2013 10:52 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger


On Jun 3, 2013, at 12:21 PM, Jene wrote:

> i'd like to hear about software for recording my vinyl collection to non mp3 cds. would like to adjust sound levels and noise clean up.

I used to get asked about this all of the time.

How to Transfer LP Records to Your Mac (free tutorial)
http://www.macinstruct.com/node/131

These articles aren't Mac-centric, but they should be very helpful:

Re: Analog recording to digital recording
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=387506

Going Digital
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,46164-page,1/article.html

Helpful Products:

USB turntables
http://turntablesforsale.org/tag/technics-usb-turntable/

Ion USB turntable
http://www.ionaudio.com/ionttusb

Numark USB turntable
http://www.amazon.com/Numark-TTUSB-Turntable-with-USB/dp/B000G3FNVM

Many folks love Final Vinyl and the iMic to convert LPs to CDs.
The software is really easy to understand and
operate. If you mess up during the recording, you can fix it with
Audacity, which is free from many download sites.

iMic and Final Vinyl
http://store.griffintechnology.com/imic-1

Audacity (free)
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/mac

Amadeus Pro to manage the recording.
$60
http://www.hairersoft.com/pro.html

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
___________________________________________

Tue Jun 4, 2013 5:38 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

> I recommend Audio Hijack Pro for recording and Fission for sound editing, both by Rogue Amoeba. Package price if you buy both at the same time. If your turntable doesn't already have a USB port, I recommend the Griffin iMic:
>
> http://store.griffintechnology.com/imic-1

Perhaps this would be better:
<http://store.griffintechnology.com/imic-623>

IonAudio has a family of products for converting/digitizing old media. Here are turntables:
<http://www.ionaudio.com/products/turntables>

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