Messages In This Digest (11 Messages)
- 1a.
- Re: imessages From: Jim Saklad
- 1b.
- Re: imessages From: N.A. Nada
- 1c.
- Re: imessages From: Mark
- 2a.
- edit resend email From: econurbs@yahoo.com
- 2b.
- Re: edit resend email From: whiterabbit32
- 3a.
- Re: iPhone App Sneaks in Tethering. Act Fast! From: rkkeller8
- 4a.
- How do I backup iPhone 3g From: tenshi_eternal
- 4b.
- Re: How do I backup iPhone 3g From: Brent
- 4c.
- Re: How do I backup iPhone 3g From: Paul Deyo
- 4d.
- Re: How do I backup iPhone 3g From: tenshi_eternal
- 4e.
- Re: How do I backup iPhone 3g From: Donald
Messages
- 1a.
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Re: imessages
Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com jimdoc01
Wed Feb 1, 2012 2:57 am (PST)
> ... but i-message suddenly got me complaints from my sons one who is on an iphone and one who is not on an iphone. And my son on the iphone said he received my messages as email not texts even though I sent them from my text app.
I just tried sending myself a text message, from my iPhone 4S, with iMessage configured and working.
As I said -- sent to myself.
My AddressBook listing includes my iPhone number, my home number, AND my email address.
If, when I compose the message, I select my iPhone's number, the test message is sent as an iMessage, and is received essentially instantly.
If I instead select my email address, the test message is sent AS AN EMAIL (and incidentally, was in this case received with a several-minute delay).
If you check how your son's address is selected on your iPhone, when texting, this likely explains the email phenomenon.
> Now I am the only one with an unlimited data plan which was grandfathered in so far. But my younger son is constantly going over his plan. So I upped him to the next level which is $25/month. He went thru that in no time
The most common way to overrun a 2GB plan is by streaming audio or, even more likely, video over 3G. If so, he should try, whenever possible, to use Wifi for streaming. After all, an iPhone can easily contain hundred of hours of music in its storage.
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Re: imessages
Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net
Wed Feb 1, 2012 2:57 am (PST)
On Jan 31, 2012, at 8:20 PM, Ellen wrote:
> I don't know what my problem is except the texting was NEVER a problem, but i-message suddenly got me complaints from my sons one who is on an iphone and one who is not on an iphone. And my son on the iphone said he received my messages as email not texts even though I sent them from my text app. I'm not sure what he meant. I text with other people sometimes and I've never seen a problem with that either, but maybe now with this new I-message it will. I guess I'll find out next time I try to text...
If he got it as an email, then check your address book and make sure you have the phone number in the phone number field and not the email field. And that it does not look something like 123-555-1234@txt.att.com .
> Now I am the only one with an unlimited data plan which was grandfathered in so far. But my younger son is constantly going over his plan. So I upped him to the next level which is $25/month. He went thru that in no time So I'll owe more for the next bill I am sure. When he gets home in February I'll have to block his usage after he reaches his limit..of course that will add $5.00 to my bill, but probably less than if he constantly goes over. My daughter when over once or twice, but she has been careful lately. Seems when ever anyone goes out of their city, the data plan goes over. My son thinks it was because he discovered Pandora music. He unfortunately may not always be at a hotspot when he is visiting his siblings.
Pandora uses data, he needs to learn to manage his data usage and Pandora uses data. If he is old enough to live on his own and can not manage to keep under his limit, then he is old enough to pay for his usage.
> My point is why have an iphone if you have to micromanage everything you do on it?
You don't have to micromanage it, you just have to select the correct plan and be willing to pay for it.
> In the beginning it was one price for unlimited which was a little pricey, but only two of us had I phones then. But now for new accounts there is no unlimited choice so then it comes down to micromanaging. My husband rarely goes over his, but he sent me a video he took while he was away... only 6 minutes, but I think he went over the minimum. I used this month so far about 226.4 megabytes of data and 2,726 of messaging. I assume that is sms? not sure since I had imessage on for awhile.
Texting, whether using SMS, MMS or iMessage does not use your cellular data. If you used 2726 text, that is a lot of texts for one person, for a family of 5 it is not bad. Some of the iMessage texts may have been sent as SMS and some not. But all iMessage can do is lower the number of text counted against your text plan, not increase it.
> How does that compare to what you do? I don't watch movies on my phone. I'm usually at home in my wifi area. I often use a map when I am out, but not all that often. Sometimes I go onto the internet when I am out to check on something. I usually don't talk on my phone during the day,
Again, data is separate from texting charges.
> I text quite a bit with some of my children who probably text often. My total bill last month was $291.00 for five of us including texting, 700 minutes of calling time, and all our data plans.
But what is your texting plan? And you would have to call your provider to ask if one family member can have an unlimited data plan, while the rest of the family on a family plan does not. I don't think so, not on a family data plan. If they will even break out the data separately from a family plan. (I'm a confirmed bachelor, so I have not paid attention to that area.)
If I were you, I would look over as many of your old phone bills, make spreadsheet of your voice, data and text usage by month, and get on the phone with your provider and see if there is someplace you can save. Make a list of questions before you call, like about the unlimited data and if some family members can have it while others do not. Can you pool data, but then who is going to monitor the family usage?
If you go into a cellular store, make sure you are in a cellular provider store and not a franchisee store. It does make a difference as to the accuracy of the information, and get it in writing. Plus you don't have to make the change right then. Sleep on it and see if it still makes sense to you a day or two later.
Your calling minutes are low to moderate, but I would think you need high use texting, and possibly more data.
You never said who your provider is, so I would ask them if you can change before the end of the month, if you see you are going over. Verizon used to allow this, but I think they dropped it. I have a feeling you're with AT&T.
> I don't know how that compares to most. Most of my friends tell me that pay a lot more, but they have a lot more minutes than I do.
How would you compare to others. We each have different numbers in the household, and different usage.
I am single, normally use under 100 minutes of voice, even when traveling for work seldom go over 200 minutes of voice. Normally use under 1 GB of data, but occasionally go over 2 GB and am grandfathered into "unlimited" data. I am grandfathered into 200 text for $5, but currently use less than 20 a month since I am no longer traveling for work. I pay about $65/ mo with a company discount and my provider is AT&T.
Brent
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Re: imessages
Posted by: "Mark" geiger4@gmail.com mgmarx19
Wed Feb 1, 2012 2:57 am (PST)
If you have unlimited but don't need it why not swap phones with your data heavy son.
Sent from my iPhone
Mark Sanford Geiger
On Jan 31, 2012, at 8:20 PM, Ellen <itasara@rochester.rr.com > wrote:
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> On Jan 31, 2012, at 5:17 AM, apple-iphone@yahoogroups. wrote:com
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> > Of course that is true - family unlimited text is $30
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> > (in a recent email you said you had unlimited texting for $0)
> My mistake if I did.
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> > I'm still confused what your problem with iMessage is.
> >
> > Mark
> I don't know what my problem is except the texting was NEVER a problem, but i-message suddenly got me complaints from my sons one who is on an iphone and one who is not on an iphone. And my son on the iphone said he received my messages as email not texts even though I sent them from my text app. I'm not sure what he meant. I text with other people sometimes and I've never seen a problem with that either, but maybe now with this new I-message it will. I guess I'll find out next time I try to text...
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> Now I am the only one with an unlimited data plan which was grandfathered in so far. But my younger son is constantly going over his plan. So I upped him to the next level which is $25/month. He went thru that in no time So I'll owe more for the next bill I am sure. When he gets home in February I'll have to block his usage after he reaches his limit..of course that will add $5.00 to my bill, but probably less than if he constantly goes over. My daughter when over once or twice, but she has been careful lately. Seems when ever anyone goes out of their city, the data plan goes over. My son thinks it was because he discovered Pandora music. He unfortunately may not always be at a hotspot when he is visiting his siblings. My point is why have an iphone if you have to micromanage everything you do on it? In the beginning it was one price for unlimited which was a little pricey, but only two of us had I phones then. But now for new accounts there is no unlimited choice so then it comes down to micromanaging. My husband rarely goes over his, but he sent me a video he took while he was away... only 6 minutes, but I think he went over the minimum. I used this month so far about 226.4 megabytes of data and 2,726 of messaging. I assume that is sms? not sure since I had imessage on for awhile. How does that compare to what you do? I don't watch movies on my phone. I'm usually at home in my wifi area. I often use a map when I am out, but not all that often. Sometimes I go onto the internet when I am out to check on something. I usually don't talk on my phone during the day. I text quite a bit with some of my children who probably text often. My total bill last month was $291.00 for five of us including texting, 700 minutes of calling time, and all our data plans.
> I don't know how that compares to most. Most of my friends tell me that pay a lot more, but they have a lot more minutes than I do.
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- 2a.
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edit resend email
Posted by: "econurbs@yahoo.com" econurbs@yahoo.com econurbs
Wed Feb 1, 2012 2:57 am (PST)
i need instructions to edit and resend email. TIA,
eco
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Re: edit resend email
Posted by: "whiterabbit32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com lwr0032
Wed Feb 1, 2012 11:38 am (PST)
Are you using an iPhone or Android? We talk both here.
Alice
Sent from my iPad 2
On Jan 31, 2012, at 8:54 PM, econurbs@yahoo.com wrote:
> i need instructions to edit and resend email. TIA,
> eco
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Re: iPhone App Sneaks in Tethering. Act Fast!
Posted by: "rkkeller8" thekellergroup@gmail.com rkkeller8
Wed Feb 1, 2012 5:51 am (PST)
The thing about using apps like this is DO NOT ABUSE IT
and if your using it mostly for email and casual web browsing
you will not have any problems.
I tethered daily on Sprint when I had my EVO for over a year
when I did not have internet where I lived. Checking emails,
some web browsing online billpay and things like that. You
don't try to stream torrents, music, movies and things like that.
Rich
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How do I backup iPhone 3g
Posted by: "tenshi_eternal" tenshi@astound.net tenshi_eternal
Wed Feb 1, 2012 1:51 pm (PST)
How do I backup iPhone 3g without iTunes on a new Mac? iTunes wants to do an update before it can sync, but if i do that it will erase everything on it.
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Re: How do I backup iPhone 3g
Posted by: "Brent" flapdoodle@gmail.com flapdoodle44
Wed Feb 1, 2012 1:56 pm (PST)
What do you have on your iPhone that you think is going to be erased? If
you have purchased apps or music from apple, you can redownload that.
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 3:47 PM, tenshi_eternal <tenshi@astound.net > wrote:
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Re: How do I backup iPhone 3g
Posted by: "Paul Deyo" paul.deyo@gmail.com crewcheef
Wed Feb 1, 2012 1:59 pm (PST)
why do you think it will erase everything? erase what? phone or iTunes music and apps?
On Wednesday, February 1, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Brent wrote:
> What do you have on your iPhone that you think is going to be erased? If
> you have purchased apps or music from apple, you can redownload that.
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Re: How do I backup iPhone 3g
Posted by: "tenshi_eternal" tenshi@astound.net tenshi_eternal
Wed Feb 1, 2012 2:21 pm (PST)
That I know, but it have pictures, phone book, music from her CDs and audio notes. Since the iOS is too old for the cloud backup (no options for it). The computer that it was last connected to, the hard drive will no longer spin even as an external so that's not an option.
--- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups. , Brent <flapdoodle@com ...> wrote:
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> What do you have on your iPhone that you think is going to be erased? If
> you have purchased apps or music from apple, you can redownload that.
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> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 3:47 PM, tenshi_eternal <tenshi@...> wrote:
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> > an update before it can sync, but if i do that it will erase everything on
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Re: How do I backup iPhone 3g
Posted by: "Donald" xlnt74@sbcglobal.net xlnt74@sbcglobal.net
Wed Feb 1, 2012 4:40 pm (PST)
You should be able to do a backup without a sync. I have upgraded using a different PC than normally sync to. You should be able to connect to your Mac a not let it sync, from there select backup.
Then do a normal sync. I have not actually done this but it seams logical.
--- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups. , "tenshi_eternal" <tenshi@...> wrote:com
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> That I know, but it have pictures, phone book, music from her CDs and audio notes. Since the iOS is too old for the cloud backup (no options for it). The computer that it was last connected to, the hard drive will no longer spin even as an external so that's not an option.
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> --- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups. , Brent <flapdoodle@com > wrote:
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> > What do you have on your iPhone that you think is going to be erased? If
> > you have purchased apps or music from apple, you can redownload that.
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> > On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 3:47 PM, tenshi_eternal <tenshi@> wrote:
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> > > How do I backup iPhone 3g without iTunes on a new Mac? iTunes wants to do
> > > an update before it can sync, but if i do that it will erase everything on
> > > it.
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