Messages In This Digest (20 Messages)
- 1a.
- Re: iPhone in Australia From: Andrew Wood
- 1b.
- Re: iPhone in Australia From: Mr & Mrs Alma & Colin Lane
- 1c.
- Re: iPhone in Australia From: Dave Skolnick
- 1d.
- Re: iPhone in Australia From: whiterabbit32
- 2a.
- Re: imessages From: Chris Laarman
- 2b.
- Re: imessages From: Andrew Wood
- 2c.
- Re: imessages From: Dave Skolnick
- 2d.
- Re: imessages From: Paul Olivas
- 2e.
- Re: imessages From: whiterabbit32
- 2f.
- Re: imessages From: whiterabbit32
- 2g.
- Re: imessages From: whiterabbit32
- 2h.
- Re: imessages From: Chris Laarman
- 3a.
- Re: Unlocked iPhones From: Damienn
- 4a.
- Re: How do I backup iPhone 3g From: Otto Nikolaus
- 4b.
- Re: How do I backup iPhone 3g From: whiterabbit32
- 5a.
- iPhone 3G that won't communicate From: Dave Skolnick
- 5b.
- Re: iPhone 3G that won't communicate From: Paul Deyo
- 6a.
- New Iphone 4s From: Thomas
- 6b.
- Re: New Iphone 4s From: Bill Boulware
- 6c.
- Re: New Iphone 4s From: Donald
Messages
- 1a.
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Re: iPhone in Australia
Posted by: "Andrew Wood" andrew1wood@me.com matchers
Sun Feb 5, 2012 3:40 am (PST)
Telstra or Vodafone are good companies to use. Telstra has the best coverage but Vodafone is cheaper. Just make check the phone is GSM and unlocked.
Andrew W
Sent from my iPhone
On 05/02/2012, at 11:16, baileyq <baileyq2000@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Hi,
> my daughter is going to Australia for 6 months. She has an iphone on her dad's plan, but I'm wondering what her options are when she goes over. She won't be travelling to the outback, as far as I know (G), but I've gone online and found different plans, but I'm not even sure her phone will work over there.
>
> If she can't get her iphone going, what are some other good plans or companies if she were to buy an Australian phone (not iphone but a prepaid plan one)?
> All advice welcome,
> thanks,
> bailey
>
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>
>
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- 1b.
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Re: iPhone in Australia
Posted by: "Mr & Mrs Alma & Colin Lane" clan1623@bigpond.net.au lightning532001
Sun Feb 5, 2012 3:40 am (PST)
I live in Aust. I have an iphone and I know that you can get pre paid one over here, I do not see any need to buy another phone, as it would not be necessary. Cannot say which plan would be best for her, she will see when she arrives. Alma
Alma & Colin Lane
Adelaide, South Australia
Skype colinalma
clan1623@bigpond.net.au
On 05/02/2012, at 10:46 AM, baileyq wrote:
> Hi,
> my daughter is going to Australia for 6 months. She has an iphone on her dad's plan, but I'm wondering what her options are when she goes over. She won't be travelling to the outback, as far as I know (G), but I've gone online and found different plans, but I'm not even sure her phone will work over there.
>
> If she can't get her iphone going, what are some other good plans or companies if she were to buy an Australian phone (not iphone but a prepaid plan one)?
> All advice welcome,
> thanks,
> bailey
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- 1c.
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Re: iPhone in Australia
Posted by: "Dave Skolnick" dskolnick@gmail.com daveskolnick
Sun Feb 5, 2012 7:22 am (PST)
> From: baileyq <baileyq2000@...>
> Subject: [apple-iphone] iPhone in Australia
>
> my daughter is going to Australia for 6 months. �She has an iphone
> on her dad's plan, but I'm wondering what her options are when she
> goes over.
Her existing iPhone will work, subject to the roaming terms of your carrier in the US. She may want to get a pre-paid local phone on a local carrier to keep costs under control. She can put in the iPhone in Airplane mode and turn WiFi back on to use it as an iPod Touch.
- 1d.
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Re: iPhone in Australia
Posted by: "whiterabbit32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com lwr0032
Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:58 pm (PST)
Aaaaa another from Adelaide :-) Can you get unlimited data plans there?
Alice
Sent from my iPad 2
On Feb 4, 2012, at 11:08 PM, Mr & Mrs Alma & Colin Lane <clan1623@bigpond.net.au > wrote:
> I live in Aust. I have an iphone and I know that you can get pre paid one over here, I do not see any need to buy another phone, as it would not be necessary. Cannot say which plan would be best for her, she will see when she arrives. Alma
> Alma & Colin Lane
> Adelaide, South Australia
> Skype colinalma
> clan1623@bigpond.net.au
>
> On 05/02/2012, at 10:46 AM, baileyq wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > my daughter is going to Australia for 6 months. She has an iphone on her dad's plan, but I'm wondering what her options are when she goes over. She won't be travelling to the outback, as far as I know (G), but I've gone online and found different plans, but I'm not even sure her phone will work over there.
> >
> > If she can't get her iphone going, what are some other good plans or companies if she were to buy an Australian phone (not iphone but a prepaid plan one)?
> > All advice welcome,
> > thanks,
> > bailey
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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- 2a.
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Re: imessages
Posted by: "Chris Laarman" v.c.laarman@gmail.com chrislaarman
Sun Feb 5, 2012 3:40 am (PST)
lwr32 <whiterabbit32@gmail.com > on Sat, 4 Feb 2012 20:57:03 -0800:
>Wifi should be fine for iMessage. Making and receiving calls needs an international plan. I think data use over 3G needs an international plan too. Best advice is to call up your carrier and find out.
Speaking for myself:
An international plan is not *required* for using any 3G service, but
it is likely to be cheaper.
I live in the Netherlands, and I happen to have all my traffic with
T-Mobile NL, a subsidiary of T-Mobile in Germany.
I have a smartphone (not an iPhone) and an iPad.
I could add an international plan to either subscription.
I could also buy a short-term international ticket.
First, I'd have to activate this option on my profile page.
Then, upon crossing the Dutch border, I'd receive a text message
inviting me to buy such ticket by texting back or by visiting a
website.
Pricing depends on duration and zone (distance). It seems to cover the
cost of roaming.
Note:
There is the gamble of how much one actually uses (minutes, messages,
MB), so what would prove the best approach with hindsight.
--
Chris Laarman
- 2b.
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Re: imessages
Posted by: "Andrew Wood" andrew1wood@me.com matchers
Sun Feb 5, 2012 3:40 am (PST)
Free wifi is not as available here. I've found it's cheaper to use 3G.
Andrew W
Sent from my iPhone
On 05/02/2012, at 15:57, lwr32 <whiterabbit32@gmail.com > wrote:
> Wifi should be fine for iMessage. Making and receiving calls needs an international plan. I think data use over 3G needs an international plan too. Best advice is to call up your carrier and find out.
>
> Alice
>
> On Feb 4, 2012, at 5:24 PM, Ramanan wrote:
>
>> Is it so?
>>
>> Is it not sufficient that they have access to wifi to receive iMessages?
>>
>> Ram
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone 3GS
>>
>> On 05-Feb-2012, at 3:56, Alice Saunders <whiterabbit32@gmail.com > wrote:
>>
>>> One other thing, they must have an international plan on their iPhones.
>>>
>>> Alice Saunders
>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 2, 2012, at 6:23 AM, Peter Patukas wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have guests here from Europe. They all have iPhones with iOS 5. Can
>>>> they iMessage anyone here in the states or to those back in Europe with
>>>> no charge? Will appreciate help. Thanks. Peter
>>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
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- 2c.
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Re: imessages
Posted by: "Dave Skolnick" dskolnick@gmail.com daveskolnick
Sun Feb 5, 2012 7:17 am (PST)
--- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups. , lwr32 <whiterabbit32@com ...> wrote:
> Wifi should be fine for iMessage. Making and receiving calls needs
> an international plan. I think data use over 3G needs an
> international plan too. Best advice is to call up your carrier and
> find out.
Remember these are Europeans in the US. The carrier is likely to be Orange or Vodaphone or someone. The plans in the EU are quite different than US plans.
iMessage will work fine over WiFi, as will any other Internet-enabled app including Skype.
Since all EU iPhones are GSM only their relationship with AT&T is relevant. Everything will work. The only question is cost, and that depends on the agreement between the EU carrier and AT&T.
I'd look at the EU carrier web site for international roaming guidelines, and in the meantime keep international data roaming turned off in Settings. The phone will still work as a phone and for SMS.
- 2d.
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Re: imessages
Posted by: "Paul Olivas" PaulDolivas@gmail.com olivaspaul
Sun Feb 5, 2012 7:58 am (PST)
I've been following this thread and want to chime in. I'm from California (AT&T) grandfathered plan with my G3s iPhone updated to 5.0. Currently I'm in Mannheim Germany. I have removed my SIM card from the iPhone and have been using iMessenger to text with other iPhones. (I don't want any AT&T surprises) I have WiFi (WLAN) set up and running here in Germany. I've been able to send and receive from, USA, Germany, Switzerland and the UK. I'm Having problems reaching Spain, Korea and Brazil. Anyone have an idea why Spain, Korea and Brazil are not reachable? iPhone to iPhone (5.0). I imagine iMessenger should work where ever you are, SIM card or no SIM card.
Side note I have used Skype in Costa Rica to call California. Sim card was removed and I had WiFi at the hotel I was at. Call was good. I also used Skype from California (data plan) to call Germany. No problem.
On Feb 4, 2012, at 11:26 PM, Alice Saunders wrote:
> One other thing, they must have an international plan on their iPhones.
> Alice Saunders
>
>
>
> On Feb 2, 2012, at 6:23 AM, Peter Patukas wrote:
>
>> I have guests here from Europe. They all have iPhones with iOS 5. Can
>> they iMessage anyone here in the states or to those back in Europe with
>> no charge? Will appreciate help. Thanks. Peter
- 2e.
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Re: imessages
Posted by: "whiterabbit32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com lwr0032
Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:45 pm (PST)
I'm with AT&T and am unable to call overseas without an international plan. Maybe using Skype but I'd have to be on wifi, correct? It's not like I can just pick up my phone and call my friend in Australia as if I were using a POTS phone.
Alice
Sent from my iPad 2
On Feb 5, 2012, at 2:57 AM, Chris Laarman <v.c.laarman@gmail.com > wrote:
> lwr32 <whiterabbit32@gmail.com > on Sat, 4 Feb 2012 20:57:03 -0800:
>
> >Wifi should be fine for iMessage. Making and receiving calls needs an international plan. I think data use over 3G needs an international plan too. Best advice is to call up your carrier and find out.
>
> Speaking for myself:
>
> An international plan is not *required* for using any 3G service, but
> it is likely to be cheaper.
>
> I live in the Netherlands, and I happen to have all my traffic with
> T-Mobile NL, a subsidiary of T-Mobile in Germany.
> I have a smartphone (not an iPhone) and an iPad.
>
> I could add an international plan to either subscription.
>
> I could also buy a short-term international ticket.
> First, I'd have to activate this option on my profile page.
> Then, upon crossing the Dutch border, I'd receive a text message
> inviting me to buy such ticket by texting back or by visiting a
> website.
> Pricing depends on duration and zone (distance). It seems to cover the
> cost of roaming.
>
> Note:
> There is the gamble of how much one actually uses (minutes, messages,
> MB), so what would prove the best approach with hindsight.
>
> --
> Chris Laarman
>
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- 2f.
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Re: imessages
Posted by: "whiterabbit32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com lwr0032
Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:52 pm (PST)
Very good to know. I'm not sure why you're having problems with some countries. I sure wish all countries would get on the same page. If I was going out of the country for more than a day or two, I'd buy a throw away phone. No need for surprise charges.
Alice
Sent from my iPad 2
On Feb 5, 2012, at 7:46 AM, Paul Olivas <PaulDolivas@gmail.com > wrote:
> I've been following this thread and want to chime in. I'm from California (AT&T) grandfathered plan with my G3s iPhone updated to 5.0. Currently I'm in Mannheim Germany. I have removed my SIM card from the iPhone and have been using iMessenger to text with other iPhones. (I don't want any AT&T surprises) I have WiFi (WLAN) set up and running here in Germany. I've been able to send and receive from, USA, Germany, Switzerland and the UK. I'm Having problems reaching Spain, Korea and Brazil. Anyone have an idea why Spain, Korea and Brazil are not reachable? iPhone to iPhone (5.0). I imagine iMessenger should work where ever you are, SIM card or no SIM card.
> Side note I have used Skype in Costa Rica to call California. Sim card was removed and I had WiFi at the hotel I was at. Call was good. I also used Skype from California (data plan) to call Germany. No problem.
>
> On Feb 4, 2012, at 11:26 PM, Alice Saunders wrote:
>
> > One other thing, they must have an international plan on their iPhones.
> > Alice Saunders
> >
> >
> >
> > On Feb 2, 2012, at 6:23 AM, Peter Patukas wrote:
> >
> >> I have guests here from Europe. They all have iPhones with iOS 5. Can
> >> they iMessage anyone here in the states or to those back in Europe with
> >> no charge? Will appreciate help. Thanks. Peter
>
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Re: imessages
Posted by: "whiterabbit32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com lwr0032
Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:56 pm (PST)
Australia, at least in the Adelaide area has expensive Internet service with slow speeds and not a lot of data per month. I have a friend that lives in Adelaide. He Skypes with me about once or twice a month but not for very long. Twitter is better for him since it uses less data.
Alice
Sent from my iPad 2
On Feb 5, 2012, at 12:19 AM, Andrew Wood <andrew1wood@me.com > wrote:
> Free wifi is not as available here. I've found it's cheaper to use 3G.
>
> Andrew W
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 05/02/2012, at 15:57, lwr32 <whiterabbit32@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> > Wifi should be fine for iMessage. Making and receiving calls needs an international plan. I think data use over 3G needs an international plan too. Best advice is to call up your carrier and find out.
> >
> > Alice
> >
> > On Feb 4, 2012, at 5:24 PM, Ramanan wrote:
> >
> >> Is it so?
> >>
> >> Is it not sufficient that they have access to wifi to receive iMessages?
> >>
> >> Ram
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone 3GS
> >>
> >> On 05-Feb-2012, at 3:56, Alice Saunders <whiterabbit32@gmail.com > wrote:
> >>
> >>> One other thing, they must have an international plan on their iPhones.
> >>>
> >>> Alice Saunders
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On Feb 2, 2012, at 6:23 AM, Peter Patukas wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I have guests here from Europe. They all have iPhones with iOS 5. Can
> >>>> they iMessage anyone here in the states or to those back in Europe with
> >>>> no charge? Will appreciate help. Thanks. Peter
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: imessages
Posted by: "Chris Laarman" v.c.laarman@gmail.com chrislaarman
Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:56 pm (PST)
whiterabbit32 <whiterabbit32@gmail.com > on Sun, 5 Feb 2012 13:45:37
-0800:
>I'm with AT&T and am unable to call overseas without an international plan. Maybe using Skype but I'd have to be on wifi, correct? It's not like I can just pick up my phone and call my friend in Australia as if I were using a POTS phone.
I have Skype installed (for others), but I don't use it. (I hardly
make any phone call.)
To my knowledge (that may be wrong), one could Skype over 3G as well
as over Wifi.
As I see it, the decisive matter is the service that the caller uses
from his (m/f) provider.
Here at home I have an ADSL cable and 3G reception.
This message goes from my notebook computer ia wifi to my ADSL modem,
and I have no clue what way it will travel to land with each of you
all. (Copper cable, fibre cable, satellite?)
My iPad (iOS 5) is set to prefer wifi to 3G. I don't think that I
could losslessly disconnect my modem while Skyping from my iPad, but I
bet I could reinstate the conversation over 3G within seconds. Vice
versa.
And after all, we all don't need an international plan to get our
messages in this group across the globe, do we? :-)
The nature of the Internet data packages shouldn't matter.
But once a telephone central gets invokes for dialing, then some fee
is due. I think.
Just my two credits... ;-)
--
Chris Laarman
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Re: Unlocked iPhones
Posted by: "Damienn" damienn7thsign@yahoo.se damienn7thsign
Sun Feb 5, 2012 3:40 am (PST)
You didn't mention what iOS version and computer OS you use, so I cannot send the appropriate URL to you. But the following link will let you select your system and tutorials how to unlock your iPhone:
http://www.iclarified.com/entries/ index.php? caid=2&scid= 11&seid=1
Regards,
Damienn
--- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups. , "Milt" <miltbaker@.com ..> wrote:
>
> I just upgraded to a new iPhone at AT&T and asked to unlock my old iPhone 2g which is long out of contract. Nope, they said, we don't do that. They suggested googling for further information on unlocking. I did that but was presented with a bewildering array of choices, many of which seem suspect.
>
> Has anyone found a good, easy (for a non-techie like me), and reliable way to unlock an iPhone so it can be used in other countries? Failing that, a good source for new unlocked iPhones?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> --Milt Baker, Fort Lauderdale, FL
>
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Re: How do I backup iPhone 3g
Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com nikyzf
Sun Feb 5, 2012 3:40 am (PST)
Alice,
Just checking but I hope you are also backing up your library to another
external. ;)
Otto
On 4 February 2012 22:14, Alice Saunders <whiterabbit32@gmail.com > wrote:
> I keep my iTunes library on an external drive and have iTunes point to it.
> That way, any new iPhone I get, I can sync with no problem. Also, regular
> syncs and backups of your computer is a good thing. That way if your
> computer should crash or you get a new one, you can put your stuff back on
> your computer the way it was.
>
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Re: How do I backup iPhone 3g
Posted by: "whiterabbit32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com lwr0032
Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:02 pm (PST)
Of course. It's backed up along with my MBA and iMac and external photo library onto an external that is stored at my parents. Every couple months I get the drive, reformat and do a full Carbon Copy Cloner back up on it and return it to my parents. At home I have a backup using Time Machine of everything.
Alice
Sent from my iPad 2
On Feb 5, 2012, at 3:36 AM, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@googlemail. > wrote:com
> Alice,
>
> Just checking but I hope you are also backing up your library to another
> external. ;)
>
> Otto
>
> On 4 February 2012 22:14, Alice Saunders <whiterabbit32@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> > I keep my iTunes library on an external drive and have iTunes point to it.
> > That way, any new iPhone I get, I can sync with no problem. Also, regular
> > syncs and backups of your computer is a good thing. That way if your
> > computer should crash or you get a new one, you can put your stuff back on
> > your computer the way it was.
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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- 5a.
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iPhone 3G that won't communicate
Posted by: "Dave Skolnick" dskolnick@gmail.com daveskolnick
Sun Feb 5, 2012 7:10 am (PST)
My sister-in-law has an iPhone 3G that is being difficult.
The phone is recognized by iTunes but won't sync - it seems to hang in backup. It does not show up in Windows Explorer (My Computer)
I uninstalled iTunes, Quicktime, Bonjour, and the various Apple tools. At that point the phone does show up in Windows Explorer but attempts to copy photos from the phone to the PC result in an error that the device is busy or another application is using it.
A clean installation of iTunes returns to the initial state of hanging backup and the phone not appearing in Windows Explorer.
The phone works fine as a phone, apps work, everything seems fine, it just won't sync or show up in Windows Explorer.
The priority is to get all the photos off the phone so she can preserve them when she upgrades to a 4S. Incidentally, there are 1,643 pictures on the phone. E-mailing photos works but the sheer number of pictures makes that approach daunting.
Any ideas?
- 5b.
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Re: iPhone 3G that won't communicate
Posted by: "Paul Deyo" paul.deyo@gmail.com crewcheef
Sun Feb 5, 2012 9:30 am (PST)
unplug iphone. Start Itunes and make sure the box is not checked that says to start iTunes when phone is plugged in. Shut down iTunes. Plug your phone in and see if windows photo manager starts and lets you unload the phone.
--
On Sunday, February 5, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Dave Skolnick wrote:
>
> My sister-in-law has an iPhone 3G that is being difficult.
>
> The phone is recognized by iTunes but won't sync - it seems to hang in backup. It does not show up in Windows Explorer (My Computer)
>
> I uninstalled iTunes, Quicktime, Bonjour, and the various Apple tools. At that point the phone does show up in Windows Explorer but attempts to copy photos from the phone to the PC result in an error that the device is busy or another application is using it.
>
> A clean installation of iTunes returns to the initial state of hanging backup and the phone not appearing in Windows Explorer.
>
> The phone works fine as a phone, apps work, everything seems fine, it just won't sync or show up in Windows Explorer.
>
> The priority is to get all the photos off the phone so she can preserve them when she upgrades to a 4S. Incidentally, there are 1,643 pictures on the phone. E-mailing photos works but the sheer number of pictures makes that approach daunting.
>
> Any ideas?
- 6a.
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New Iphone 4s
Posted by: "Thomas" tweaver@stny.rr.com tdw6974
Sun Feb 5, 2012 7:11 am (PST)
Got the 4s yesterday(Verizon carrier) In the "Quick Start guide" it mentions intelligent keyboard that anticipates word as you type so you just Tap to use. How do I get this to start/use? The spell check does work Thanks Tom Weaver
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Re: New Iphone 4s
Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com boulware0224
Sun Feb 5, 2012 7:17 am (PST)
That is basically it, you don't really notice until you try and use an
Android or other type of phone and realize how often 'tapping' results in
misspelled words, etc - the iPhone just fixes them as you go - sometimes it
fixes them to a word you didn't mean to use, etc but the majority of the
time it predicts correctly the first time.
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:07, Thomas <tweaver@stny.rr.com > wrote:
> Got the 4s yesterday(Verizon carrier) In the "Quick Start guide" it
> mentions intelligent keyboard that anticipates word as you type so you just
> Tap to use. How do I get this to start/use? The spell check does work
> Thanks Tom Weaver
>
>
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Re: New Iphone 4s
Posted by: "Donald" xlnt74@sbcglobal.net xlnt74@sbcglobal.net
Sun Feb 5, 2012 8:09 am (PST)
You will notice while you are typing that sometimes a small box will show up either above the word you are typing that is the suggested word, if it's the word you mean just tap the space bar and that word will be used if not keep typing or tap the "x" at the end of that box and use the word you were typing.
--- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups. , "Thomas" <tweaver@...com > wrote:
>
> Got the 4s yesterday(Verizon carrier) In the "Quick Start guide" it mentions intelligent keyboard that anticipates word as you type so you just Tap to use. How do I get this to start/use? The spell check does work Thanks Tom Weaver
>
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