Messages In This Digest (13 Messages)
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- Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 Released From: Harry Flaxman
- 1.2.
- Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 Released From: Harry Flaxman
- 1.3.
- Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 Released From: Japanese LoneWolf
- 1.4.
- Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 Released From: Ken
- 1.5.
- Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 Released From: Jim McGarvie
- 2a.
- Re: Western Digital Thunderbolt From: Oneal Neumann
- 3a.
- Cloning From: Blaine Gordon
- 3b.
- Re: Cloning From: Jim McGarvie
- 4a.
- Re: iPhone - iMessage Question From: Denver dan
- 4b.
- Re: iPhone - iMessage Question From: N.A. Nada
- 5a.
- Re: Belkin TOSlink Optical Audio Cable From: Otto Nikolaus
- 6a.
- Does Time Machine delete programs? From: Tim and Mary JaneS
- 6b.
- Re: Does Time Machine delete programs? From: Jon Kreisler
Messages
- 1.1.
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Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 Released
Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com hflaxman001
Fri Feb 3, 2012 6:09 am (PST)
On 2/3/2012 8:54 AM, Ken wrote:
> OK. I found Terminal under Utilities applications. When I open it, a window appears with 2 lines of info. Do I type after this or remove any or all of what is there? Here's what appears:
>
> Last login: Fri Feb 3 06:49:31 on ttys000
> Kenneths-MacBook-Air:~ ken silva$
The $ is the Unix command prompt. Commands are typed after this.
Harry
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Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 Released
Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com hflaxman001
Fri Feb 3, 2012 6:11 am (PST)
On 2/3/2012 8:59 AM, Ken wrote:
> One more thing. I'm using "sleep" to also mean "shut down and restart". The slow loading of applications is occurring after Shut down. The only thing I've noticed after "sleep" is that the cursor won't respond for about 10 seconds. Are both situations due to the same issue that Terminal might fix. I'm a little hesitant to go mucking about in Terminal. That seems a bit over my level.
> Ken S
By deleting the sleepimage file, you're not doing any harm. The system
will just recreate it when needed.
I never shut my machine down or sleep it. I notice that after cleaning
caches or doing a safe boot, the system is much slower in starting up
once it gets to the account level. If I just do a simple restart, it's
much quicker.
Harry
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Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 Released
Posted by: "Japanese LoneWolf" japanese.lonewolf@yahoo.com japanese.lonewolf
Fri Feb 3, 2012 7:46 am (PST)
As far as slow start-ups, you have to remember there may be other background apps loading, plus mail may be downloading new emails. The order you open apps may also have to do with speed.
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Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 Released
Posted by: "Ken" avlisk@cox.net avliska
Fri Feb 3, 2012 8:24 am (PST)
JLW,
I just tried a forced restart from the Apple pull down menu, and all 3 apps open immediately. It's starting up from an overnight shut down where Safari opens immediately, but iTunes and Mail take another 20 seconds or so. It's my first SSD and my first Lion experience, so I'm not complaining about a 20 second start up. That's amazingly fast in my world. There's other weird things, like Mission Control for ex., that don't seem to do anything productive, either. So, it's probably me.
Ken S.
Japanese LoneWolf <japanese.lonewolf@...> wrote:
>
> As far as slow start-ups, you have to remember there may be other background apps loading, plus mail may be downloading new emails. The order you open apps may also have to do with speed.
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Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 Released
Posted by: "Jim McGarvie" jim@mcgarvie.us jgarv2002
Fri Feb 3, 2012 8:38 am (PST)
I run Time Machine constantly. But how do I make a "clone backup?" When I used PCs I used Acronis True Image to make clones.
Thanks.
Best,
Jim
On Feb 1, 2012, at 10:52 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:
> >> Have a look at this before upgrading!:
> >> CUI CUI CUI error 10.7.3 all apps...: Apple Support Communities
> >> https://discussions.apple.com/ message/17468372 #17468372
> >
> > Installed on 2010 MBP, no problem. Had a 20-minuteold clone just in case ...
>
> I don't know what their problem is -- certainly any major update can cause problems if care is not taken.
>
> I make sure my Time Machine backups are current.
> I make a fresh clone backup.
> I run Repair Permissions in Disk Utility.
> I shut down as many running programs as is practicable.
> THEN I run the *Combo* updater.
> Reboot (sometimes a Safe Boot/reboot), then run Repair Permissions again.
>
> So far, no problems with 10.7.3
>
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> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
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Re: Western Digital Thunderbolt
Posted by: "Oneal Neumann" wardell.h.s@gmail.com newalander
Fri Feb 3, 2012 7:54 am (PST)
On 2012 February 2 (at 10:07) Denver dan wrote:
WD demoed a Thunderbolt equipped MyBook prototype external HD at MacWorld.
The HD case had 2 ThunderBolt ports which allowed 2 of the drives to be daisy chained as a RAID.
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Since your marks aren't question, I take it that you're okay with Western Digital, Dan. Coincidentally, I just bought a 1000 GB portable WD drive because it was a great deal.
Oneal
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Cloning
Posted by: "Blaine Gordon" blainegordon@ymail.com blainegordon@ymail.com
Fri Feb 3, 2012 9:11 am (PST)
Jim,
I use both Carbon Copy Cloner (CCC) or SuperDuper (SD) to clone my hard drive. I prefer SD for no good reason. You don't have to pay for either for simple cloning but I bought SD because I like scheduling backups. I would suggest you go to each of their web pages and decide which you like best.
Blaine
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Re: Cloning
Posted by: "Jim McGarvie" jim@mcgarvie.us jgarv2002
Fri Feb 3, 2012 9:20 am (PST)
Great, Blaine. Thanks for the info.
Jim
On Feb 3, 2012, at 9:11 AM, Blaine Gordon wrote:
> Jim,
> I use both Carbon Copy Cloner (CCC) or SuperDuper (SD) to clone my hard drive. I prefer SD for no good reason. You don't have to pay for either for simple cloning but I bought SD because I like scheduling backups. I would suggest you go to each of their web pages and decide which you like best.
> Blaine
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
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Re: iPhone - iMessage Question
Posted by: "Denver dan" denver.dan@verizon.net denverdan22180
Fri Feb 3, 2012 9:13 am (PST)
I deleted the iMessage app after folks here answered my questions. Roger is right about Apple's lack of info!
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On Feb 3, 2012, at 8:16 AM, "Roger Harris" <skunktown@gmail.com > wrote:
> A certain amount of the confusion here stems from the facts that:
>
> 1. Apple has effectively an app within an app - iMessage operates within Messages. The names are so similar that it leads to confusion.
>
> 2. Apple has not done a minimalist job of explaining the various facets of the way iMessage operates - including text bubble colors.
>
> 3. Apple has allowed an app vendor to sell it's app, known as iMessage on the App Store. THAT seems crazy to me. I believe that is where Dan got caught up - an easy mistake. And furthermore the icon for iMessage is very very similar to the icon for Messages.
>
> Anyhoo, it feels good to finally understand this thing. Thanks to all.
>
> Roger
>
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups. , Denver Dan <denver.dan@com ...> wrote:
>>
>> Howdy.
>>
>> Joan, I think you have stated it all correctly.
>>
>> And yes, the iMessage app (not from Apple) was pretty sparse and
>> inconvenient.
>>
>> I can't answer your question about using the non Apple iMessage app to
>> send free text messages to non iOS devices.
>>
>> I know that there are a number of texting apps for iOS that can send
>> free text messages but I guess checking the App store and reading the
>> descriptions would be the only way to discover them.
>>
>> I suggest doing an internet search for free texting apps. Here's one
>> link to start you off.
>>
>> <http://www.businessinsider.com/ >free-texting- apps-2011- 8
>>
>> It's a list of 10 free texting apps but not all for iPhone/iOS.
>>
>> Denver Dan
>>
>> p.s. Any relation to the early 20th century writer named Sax Rohmer
>> who created the character of Dr. Fu Manchu? (oh, well, I just looked
>> up Sax Rohmer and it was a pen name. :-( )
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 15:41:58 -0500, Joan B Sax Ph.D. wrote:
>>> So, to recapitulate (and to see if I understand the substance of this
>>> topic), the iPhone has a built-in (in iOS5 that is) feature called
>>> iMessage, found under Settings/Messages that can be turned on. And
>>> if you turn that iMessage feature on, AND, if someone you know with
>>> an iPhone also has it turned on, messages between those two iPhones
>>> will not count as part of the message limit set by your AT&T
>>> contract. If, on the other hand, the person to whom you sent messages
>>> or from whom you receive messages (and who has iOS5) does not have
>>> the iMessage feature turned on, then messages to and from said iPhone
>>> will count in the message number limit that you have paid AT&T for.
>>> The built-in iPhone feature is not to be confused with the iMessage
>>> app found in iTunes app store (that go very poor reviews, by the
>>> way), although from the description, it seems to do the same thing
>>> (when it works, that is).
>>> Now, here is one further question, if you send a message to a non
>>> iOS5 phone (android or whatever) the message will be counted in the
>>> limit of messages set by your contract with AT&T. But, can the
>>> iMessage app available in the iTunes app store be used by a
>>> non-iPhone device and, if so, will the result be similar to the
>>> situation where two iPhones with the installed iMessage feature
>>> turned on, namely that messages between your iPhone and the
>>> non-iPhone will not be counted in the message limit you have?
>>>
>>> Joan, who may have muddied the waters even further.
>>
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Re: iPhone - iMessage Question
Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net
Fri Feb 3, 2012 8:04 pm (PST)
Take this as humorous.
On Feb 3, 2012, at 5:16 AM, Roger Harris wrote:
> A certain amount of the confusion here stems from the facts that:
>
> 1. Apple has effectively an app within an app - iMessage operates within Messages. The names are so similar that it leads to confusion.
I'm glad you aren't talking about iCloud, because it is an account, a service and a server (where you can by more space), or it could get more confusing. Or iPod the hardware or app.
>
> 2. Apple has not done a minimalist job of explaining the various facets of the way iMessage operates - including text bubble colors.
It was a minimalist explanation to the extreme. Just read through the web page.
http://www.apple.com/iphone/ built-in- apps/messages. html
>
> 3. Apple has allowed an app vendor to sell it's app, known as iMessage on the App Store. THAT seems crazy to me. I believe that is where Dan got caught up - an easy mistake. And furthermore the icon for iMessage is very very similar to the icon for Messages.
Yeah, that one I seriously can not understand.
>
> Anyhoo, it feels good to finally understand this thing. Thanks to all.
I'm glad you have a better handle on it.
Brent
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Re: Belkin TOSlink Optical Audio Cable
Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com nikyzf
Fri Feb 3, 2012 11:40 am (PST)
On 3 February 2012 11:57, Harry Flaxman <harry.flaxman@me.com > wrote:
>
> Just looked at the blow up images of this item. Apparently, the unit is
> both an adapter and cable that are separate entities but sold together.
>
> Guess I just answered my own question, all except the port
> configuration. I guess I can get that from the Apple store rep when I
> call.
> TIA
>
Looks reasonable but check here if you want to save some money.
<http://www.trianglecables.com/ >audio-cables- digital-optical- toslink.html
What do you mean by port configuration? Don't all current Macs have a port
containing both analogue stereo and mini-Toslink?
Otto
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Does Time Machine delete programs?
Posted by: "Tim and Mary JaneS" snookmjt@cox.net snookmjt
Fri Feb 3, 2012 9:23 pm (PST)
Just started using TM on my new iMac. Today when I tried to launch TurboTax, the program had been moved to the trash. Since I did not do that, and I am the only one that manages files, I have to wonder if TM may have done that.
Can anyone shed some light on this?
Thank you,
Tim
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Re: Does Time Machine delete programs?
Posted by: "Jon Kreisler" jonkreisler@gmail.com jonkreisler
Sat Feb 4, 2012 4:25 am (PST)
The TurboTax updater puts older versions in the trash. If you downloaded
any TurboTax updates, the newest version should still be in
the Applications folder.
Jon
On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 12:23 AM, Tim and Mary JaneS <snookmjt@cox.net >wrote:
> **
>
>
> Just started using TM on my new iMac. Today when I tried to launch
> TurboTax, the program had been moved to the trash. Since I did not do that,
> and I am the only one that manages files, I have to wonder if TM may have
> done that.
>
> Can anyone shed some light on this?
>
> Thank you,
> Tim
>
>
>
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