Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)
- 1.
- Apple updates EFI Firmware on 2010 MacBook Pros, Airs and iMacs; Add From: Bill Boulware
- 2a.
- Re: harddrive thoughts From: Randy B. Singer
- 2b.
- Re: harddrive thoughts From: Tod Hopkins
- 2c.
- Re: harddrive thoughts From: Jim Saklad
- 2d.
- Re: harddrive thoughts From: Randy B. Singer
- 2e.
- Re: harddrive thoughts From: Tod Hopkins
- 2f.
- Re: harddrive thoughts From: Tod Hopkins
- 3a.
- Re: Cannot Delete Trash From: Denver Dan
- 3b.
- Re: Cannot Delete Trash From: Barry Austern
- 3c.
- Re: Cannot Delete Trash From: neelie
- 4a.
- Kernel Panics - G5 Tower From: Jay Abraham
- 4b.
- Re: Kernel Panics - G5 Tower From: Collin
- 4c.
- Re: Kernel Panics - G5 Tower From: Denver Dan
- 4d.
- Re: Kernel Panics - G5 Tower From: Jay Abraham
- 4e.
- Re: Kernel Panics - G5 Tower From: Jay Abraham
- 5a.
- Re: How to print large number of PDFs automatically? From: André Boey
- 5b.
- Re: How to print large number of PDFs automatically? From: Barry Austern
- 5c.
- Re: How to print large number of PDFs automatically? From: Barry Austern
- 5d.
- Re: How to print large number of PDFs automatically? From: Denver dan
- 5e.
- Re: How to print large number of PDFs automatically? From: DaveC
- 6a.
- Re: BLU RAY From: halboye18
- 6b.
- Re: BLU RAY From: Tod Hopkins
- 6c.
- Re: BLU RAY From: Denver Dan
- 7a.
- Re: iCloud and Leopard From: ennisart
- 8.
- FaceTime and iChat connection problems From: Ron West
Messages
- 1.
-
Apple updates EFI Firmware on 2010 MacBook Pros, Airs and iMacs; Add
Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com boulware0224
Wed Feb 8, 2012 5:59 am (PST)
http://feedproxy.google.com/ ~r/9To5Mac- MacAllDay/ ~3/nvDotEL4llE/
Sent to you by Bill Boulware via Google Reader: Apple updates EFI
Firmware on 2010 MacBook Pros, Airs and iMacs; Adds Lion Internet
Recovery via 9to5Mac by Jake Smith on 2/7/12
Apple released EFI firmware updates for the MacBook Pro, MacBook Air,
and iMacs this evening. The updates bring Lion Internet Recovery to the
2010 models of the MacBook Pro, MacBook Air, and iMac. You can open up
Software Update or download the updates directly from Apple’s website.
MacBook Pro
This update enables Lion Recovery from an Internet connection on
MacBook Pro (Early 2010) models.
MacBook Air
This update enables Lion Recovery from an Internet connection on
MacBook Air (Late 2010) models and addresses an issue where the system
could restart if the power button is pressed immediately after waking
from deep sleep.
iMac
This update enables Lion Recovery from an Internet connection on iMac
(Mid 2010) models.
Lion Internet Recovery was introduced by Apple in Lion to re-download
the OS directly from Apple’s servers over an Internet connection when
all else fails.
Related articles
- Used Apple MacBook Pro Core i5 2.4GHz 13″ Laptop for $900 + free
shipping (9to5toys.com)
- DigiTimes: 2880-by-1800 Retina Display rumored to come to 2012
MacBook Pro (9to5mac.com)
- Panasonic 8x Dual Layer Slimline Internal DVD Burner for $69 + $7
s&h, more (9to5toys.com)
- Apple completes testing of 15 inch LCD for ultra-thin MacBook Pro?
(9to5mac.com)
- Intel’s new 520 Series SSD benchmarked: Easy on the battery, great
data protection and compression features (9to5mac.com)
- Apple MacBook Air Core 2 Duo 1.86GHz 13″ Laptop for $849 + $20 s&h
(9to5toys.com)
Things you can do from here:
- Subscribe to 9to5Mac using Google Reader
- Get started using Google Reader to easily keep up with all your
favorite sites
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
- 2a.
-
Re: harddrive thoughts
Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com randybrucesinger
Wed Feb 8, 2012 6:44 am (PST)
On Feb 8, 2012, at 5:17 AM, Kimmy wrote:
> What does this say or mean about drives from OWC?
Internal or external?
Internal...it means that it will be very hard to choose a drive, of
any description, that isn't a piece of garbage.
External...OWC claims to do additional testing beyond what the
mechanism manufacturer does. So far I haven't heard any complains
about their external drives.
However, I now recommend these external drives instead:
Glyph
http://www.glyphtech.com/
http://www.glyphtech.com/products/
Amazon offers them at a good discount:
http://is.gd/6rLM1d
If you are looking for a 1TB drive, this one is a good value:
http://is.gd/JUsrWJ
Includes 2 year data recovery warranty!
Users rave about Glyph drives!
_____________________ _________ _________ ____
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts. html
_____________________ _________ _________ ____
- 2b.
-
Re: harddrive thoughts
Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com todhop
Wed Feb 8, 2012 7:09 am (PST)
I'm arguing the model not only does matter, it matters more than the brand name. It always has. This is even more true when there are only two owners but there are still many models and fabrication facilities. Western Digital may own Hitachi, but last I checked (and it is NOT my thing), Hitachi drive designs have not radically changed and they are still built in the same fabs. So while it may not continue to be true (especially after the Thai floods), a Hitachi drive is still a Hitachi drive. It's just sold by WD.
Any given model has better or worse design, components, and manufacturing. Models built to the more expensive "enterprise" standards have been more thoroughly tested, use better parts, and are redesigned less frequently (more conservative design), regardless of who "owns" them.
As for externals, the brand/model is critical. The most likely points of failure in an external are power and control electronics (especially in a RAID drive). These are entirely in the hands of the reseller even if they don't manufacture them (and they don't). The resellers also chose the model of internal they use, and whether these are more or less reliable. Some test extensively before switching models. Some do not.
My recommendation, if you care about quality, is to stick with models that have been around, and been well reviewed over time. If quality is critical, focus on "enterprise" quality drives and components. This will double your cost, but it should also reduce your risk of failure by at least that.
For externals, I have had generally good experiences with GRaid, LaCie, and OWC. Over the long haul, GRaid is may favorite overall. I also like OWC in general and their RAID0 externals in particular. LaCie has suffered from a severe loss of focus recently. There are many small value added resellers that do a very good job if you ask around. Surprisingly, I've actually had good luck with Fantom drives, but that's purely anecdotal, and now that I've said it... 8o I am not a critical purchaser of internals. I buy conservatively and focus on backups.
Cheers,
tod
On Feb 8, 2012, at 3:09 AM, Randy B. Singer wrote:
>
> On Feb 7, 2012, at 6:54 AM, Tod Hopkins wrote:
>
> > Also consider that this is simply not rocket science anymore.
> > Drives are a commodity. If you buy a cheap drive model, you will
> > get cheap construction. For many uses, that's enough. If you want
> > quality construction, you have to pay more.
>
> As far as internal mechanisms go, because of industry consolidation,
> there are now only two choices: Seagate and Western Digital. For
> 3.5-inch desktop drive mechanisms, there are no longer any other
> choices (no matter what the name is on the box). It is no longer a
> matter of purchasing "cheap" drives, or purchasing "expensive"
> drives, with the exception of different models within the same brand
> marketed as having higher quality, and the exception of purchasing
> different brands of *external* hard drives which may or may not do
> some quality testing of their own prior to sale.
>
> My contact within the hard drive recovery service industry says that
> he has already seen Seagate's (internal mechanism) quality decline,
> but that it is nowhere near as bad as Western Digital.
>
> Lack of competition means that there is no longer any need to compete
> based on quality.
>
> Here is how things have shaken out:
>
> Western Digital purchased Hitachi which had previously purchased
> IBM's hard drive division
> <http://www.zdnet.com/blog/ storage/wd- buys-hitachi- gst-the-good- and-
> the-bad/1309>
>
> Seagate purchased Samsung's hard drive division
> <http://blogs.forbes.com/ briancaulfield/ 2011/04/19/ seagate-agrees- to-
> buy-samsungs-hard-drive- business- in-1-375- billion-deal/ >
>
> Earlier Seagate purchased Maxtor which had previously purchased Quantum
> <http://hardware.slashdot. org/story/ 05/12/21/ 1311235/Seagate- buys-
> Maxtor-for-19B>
> <http://articles.sfgate.com/ 2000-10-05/ business/ 17663615_ 1_maxtor-
> quantum-ceo-michael-brown- net-loss>
>
> Toshiba purchased Fujitsu's hard drive division
> <http://www.bit-tech.net/ news/hardware/ 2009/02/18/ toshiba-to- buy-
> fujitsu-hdd-division/ 1>
>
> Basically there are now only three players in the rotating disk hard
> drive field. Toshiba concentrates on 2.5-inch drives for mobile
> computers. So there are only two companies now making 3.5-inch hard
> drive internal mechanisms.
>
> _____________________ _________ _________ ____
> Randy B. Singer
> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
>
> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
> http://www.macattorney.com/ts. html
> _____________________ _________ _________ ____
>
>
Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
- 2c.
-
Re: harddrive thoughts
Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com jimdoc01
Wed Feb 8, 2012 7:21 am (PST)
> I'm arguing the model not only does matter, it matters more than the brand name. It always has. This is even more true when there are only two owners but there are still many models and fabrication facilities. Western Digital may own Hitachi, but last I checked (and it is NOT my thing), Hitachi drive designs have not radically changed and they are still built in the same fabs. So while it may not continue to be true (especially after the Thai floods), a Hitachi drive is still a Hitachi drive. It's just sold by WD.
>
> Any given model has better or worse design, components, and manufacturing. Models built to the more expensive "enterprise" standards have been more thoroughly tested, use better parts, and are redesigned less frequently (more conservative design), regardless of who "owns" them.
And, as has already been pointed out, all drives eventually fail.
Pay more to buy one with a longer warranty, and it may outlast your need, or, when (not "if") it fails, you're more likely to achieve satisfaction in the replacement process.
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
- 2d.
-
Re: harddrive thoughts
Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com randybrucesinger
Wed Feb 8, 2012 7:27 am (PST)
On Feb 8, 2012, at 7:09 AM, Tod Hopkins wrote:
> Western Digital may own Hitachi, but last I checked (and it is NOT
> my thing), Hitachi drive designs have not radically changed and
> they are still built in the same fabs. So while it may not
> continue to be true (especially after the Thai floods), a Hitachi
> drive is still a Hitachi drive. It's just sold by WD.
I specifically asked my contact in the hard drive recovery industry
about this. At first, he says, that it was true that Hitachi drives
were still Hitachi drives and they were of good quality. He says
that is no longer the case.
_____________________ _________ _________ ____
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts. html
_____________________ _________ _________ ____
- 2e.
-
Re: harddrive thoughts
Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com todhop
Wed Feb 8, 2012 8:23 am (PST)
It will be interesting to see if the quality suffers. That will make a lot of IT managers very unhappy! Thanks for the Glyph recommendation. I have not used them.
Cheers,
tod
On Feb 8, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Randy B. Singer wrote:
>
> On Feb 8, 2012, at 7:09 AM, Tod Hopkins wrote:
>
> > Western Digital may own Hitachi, but last I checked (and it is NOT
> > my thing), Hitachi drive designs have not radically changed and
> > they are still built in the same fabs. So while it may not
> > continue to be true (especially after the Thai floods), a Hitachi
> > drive is still a Hitachi drive. It's just sold by WD.
>
> I specifically asked my contact in the hard drive recovery industry
> about this. At first, he says, that it was true that Hitachi drives
> were still Hitachi drives and they were of good quality. He says
> that is no longer the case.
>
> _____________________ _________ _________ ____
> Randy B. Singer
> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
>
> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
> http://www.macattorney.com/ts. html
> _____________________ _________ _________ ____
>
>
Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
- 2f.
-
Re: harddrive thoughts
Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com todhop
Wed Feb 8, 2012 8:34 am (PST)
Glancing at the recent news, the industry is not yet that consolidated. "Western Digital" fabs were all shut down by Thai floods. Hitachi desktop HDD is in China and the company structure appears to remain independent of WD. Owned maybe, but not yet "operated" by WD. They still have their own corp structure, R&D, and manufacturing, both components and finished HDD, not to mention a reputation to uphold. Seagate just purchased Samsung HDDs, which is a reminder that there are other players. Samsung was independent until this Jan. Toshiba is still independent, though it is a small player (10-14%).
Cheers,
tod
On Feb 8, 2012, at 11:23 AM, Tod Hopkins wrote:
> It will be interesting to see if the quality suffers. That will make a lot of IT managers very unhappy! Thanks for the Glyph recommendation. I have not used them.
>
> Cheers,
> tod
>
> On Feb 8, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Randy B. Singer wrote:
>
>>
>> On Feb 8, 2012, at 7:09 AM, Tod Hopkins wrote:
>>
>>> Western Digital may own Hitachi, but last I checked (and it is NOT
>>> my thing), Hitachi drive designs have not radically changed and
>>> they are still built in the same fabs. So while it may not
>>> continue to be true (especially after the Thai floods), a Hitachi
>>> drive is still a Hitachi drive. It's just sold by WD.
>>
>> I specifically asked my contact in the hard drive recovery industry
>> about this. At first, he says, that it was true that Hitachi drives
>> were still Hitachi drives and they were of good quality. He says
>> that is no longer the case.
>>
>> _____________________ _________ _________ ____
>> Randy B. Singer
>> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
>>
>> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
>> http://www.macattorney.com/ts. html
>> _____________________ _________ _________ ____
>>
>>
>
> Tod Hopkins
> Hillmann & Carr Inc.
> todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> --------------------- --------- ------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsupportcentral. >com/policies/
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com
- 3a.
-
Re: Cannot Delete Trash
Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net denverdan22180
Wed Feb 8, 2012 7:23 am (PST)
Howdy.
Empty Securely will always be slower to work.
As John E. mentioned, you can uncheck the Secure Empty item.
There is also a keyboard override command that ignores things liked
locked items in Trash.
To use the override press Option and choose Empty Trash from the Finder
menu. Before actually doing the Empty Trash command with Option
pressed, note the keyboard combo of 4 keys to do the override just with
keyboard command.
Denver Dan
On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:19:55 +0000, James Johnson wrote:
> I am having problems deleting or emptying the trashcan in OSX Lion
> 10.7.3. The trash is set to empty securely and for some reason seems
> to either be very slow or has stopped altogether.
>
> Is there another way of deleting, maybe even setting to normal
> (non-secure) emptying?
>
> Thanks.
- 3b.
-
Re: Cannot Delete Trash
Posted by: "Barry Austern" barryaus@fuse.net barryaus
Wed Feb 8, 2012 8:26 am (PST)
At 11:19 AM +0000 2/8/12, James Johnson wrote:
>
>
>Hi all,
>
>I am having problems deleting or emptying the trashcan in OSX Lion
>10.7.3. The trash is set to empty securely and for some reason seems
>to either be very slow or has stopped altogether.
>
>Is there another way of deleting, maybe even setting to normal
>(non-secure) emptying?
A few ideas here:
Restart the computer and see if it then will empty.
Maybe, as you suspect, it simply is emptying slowly. Quit the
emptying and open the trash folder and see how many items are in it.
Repeat and see if the number has gone down.
A great program is "Trash It." It will trash stuff when you otherwise can't.
Hold down the option key when selecting empty trash.
Maybe your trash is so darn full that it is choking. Drag a bunch of
stuff out of the trash to some other folder on the desktop. With only
a few items in the trash maybe it will empty.
If you have another computer set up a network. Deletions from a
network drive are immediate, and don't go to trash folder.
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net
- 3c.
-
Re: Cannot Delete Trash
Posted by: "neelie" neeliec2000@yahoo.com neeliec2000
Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:47 am (PST)
Hi,
Using the "secure" setting really s l o w s down the emptying process, especially if you have a lot of files to delete.
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups. , James Johnson <jamcam1@...com > wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am having problems deleting or emptying the trashcan in OSX Lion 10.7.3. The trash is set to empty securely and for some reason seems to either be very slow or has stopped altogether.
>
> Is there another way of deleting, maybe even setting to normal (non-secure) emptying?
>
> Thanks.
>
- 4a.
-
Kernel Panics - G5 Tower
Posted by: "Jay Abraham" jaygroups@abrahamgroup.net kerala01212001
Wed Feb 8, 2012 7:51 am (PST)
Hi all,
Any suggestions on how to troubleshoot this. I started getting the panics after I upgraded the Tower to Leopard about a year ago. They would come every couple of days. Would notice that the system fan would spin up to high and the screen would be dark and I couldn't get system to turn on. In most cases, I noticed it after leaving the room for a couple of hours. In some case, the Mac screen would say that the OS quit and I needed to restart.
Not sure of the exact timeline in that this happened after I updated to Leopard. At the same time I did that I added an additional internal drive. Haven't done anything else.
It is getting more frequent now - usually a couple of times a day so I'm forced to troubleshoot it. The system fan also seems to spin up to high a lot even when it doesn't appear anything is using resources. Not using as my primary computer anymore but rather as a media server, backup, etc. I haven't kept past copies of the system report but the usually said unresolved kernel trap and didn't point to one thing consistently. I have tried starting up in Safe mode to see if I still have kernel panics and I still do.
Should I try reinstalling Tiger and seeing if this fixes the problem. I no longer need Leopard - had to put it in to ensure I could still have my calendars sync with MobileMe.
Thanks,
Jay
- 4b.
-
Re: Kernel Panics - G5 Tower
Posted by: "Collin" Collinwhuber@aol.com collinwhuber
Wed Feb 8, 2012 8:29 am (PST)
If I were you, I'd re-install Leopard as a first attempt. If your install is bad, it could be causing those problems.
If that doesn't work, then the next thing is your RAM. I've had issues with frequent kernel panics with various Macs, and the problem has been that some of the RAM has gone bad or is not seated correctly. The worst of it was on my PowerMac G3 400MHz (now a network file server). It would kernel panic before it could even boot all of the way into OS X.
Do you have any expansion cards in the G5? Sometimes Macs can start acting strange if there's something wrong with an expansion card or if it's not pushed into the slot all of the way.
Hope this helps!
 Collin 
Mac Pro 1,1 8-cores @2.33 GHz, 4GB RAM, Radeon X1900XT with 512 MB VRAM, 90GB SSD, 500GB HDD, 320GB HDD, 160GB HDD
MacBook Pro 5,3 2.66 GHz Core 2 Duo, 8GB RAM, 60GB SSD, 320GB HDD
iPad 2 32GB AT&T
iPhone 4 16GB Verizon
And a long list of older Macs!
On Feb 8, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Jay Abraham wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Any suggestions on how to troubleshoot this. I started getting the panics after I upgraded the Tower to Leopard about a year ago. They would come every couple of days. Would notice that the system fan would spin up to high and the screen would be dark and I couldn't get system to turn on. In most cases, I noticed it after leaving the room for a couple of hours. In some case, the Mac screen would say that the OS quit and I needed to restart.
>
> Not sure of the exact timeline in that this happened after I updated to Leopard. At the same time I did that I added an additional internal drive. Haven't done anything else.
>
> It is getting more frequent now - usually a couple of times a day so I'm forced to troubleshoot it. The system fan also seems to spin up to high a lot even when it doesn't appear anything is using resources. Not using as my primary computer anymore but rather as a media server, backup, etc. I haven't kept past copies of the system report but the usually said unresolved kernel trap and didn't point to one thing consistently. I have tried starting up in Safe mode to see if I still have kernel panics and I still do.
>
> Should I try reinstalling Tiger and seeing if this fixes the problem. I no longer need Leopard - had to put it in to ensure I could still have my calendars sync with MobileMe.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jay
>
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
- 4c.
-
Re: Kernel Panics - G5 Tower
Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net denverdan22180
Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:07 am (PST)
Howdy.
Jay, a kernal panic is often a sign of hardware problems. Could be a
cable, a port, RAM, a video card, or other.
Is your video card in the G5 Tower the original one?
If it's a 2nd or extra video card it might have a cooling fan on it
which is what you are hearing (a maybe).
My ancient computer "nose" is twitching and telling me that you may
have a hardware issue with the video card. That's hard to troubleshoot
on your own unless you have a 2nd AND compatible video card you can
install yourself to see if the problem stops or doesn't stop.
If you have a G5 Tower, then you could also check inside the case for
dust accumulation. Dust can sometimes cause overheating which can
occasionally cause a shut down but it's fairly rare. The fastest G5
PowerPC Tower, before being replaced by Intel processors, had 9 cooling
fans plus a liquid radiator cooling system and all that can suck in a
lot of dust. In addition, the G5 Towers with the liquid cooling
radiator system did have occasional problems with leakage. Worth a
good check for all that and perhaps a good and very careful
cleaning/dusting inside.
If possible, also check to see if all the fans are functioning and none
have frozen. You can open the Tower while it's running but don't
remove the clear plastic air vent deflector device in the middle (it
has a switch that when removed puts the Tower to sleep).
There are free utilities like iStat and iStat Nano that will list a
variety of informatinal items like RPM of the various fans (my MacPro
Tower has 4 fans and is current showing 499 RPM to 599 RPM for them).
It also shows the temperatures of drive bays and the CPUs.
The first thing you could try is to remove all extra stuff including
added RAM, 2nd HD, all cables except keyboard/mouse and monitor, remove
any PCI cards except original video card.
Then do the usual 3 standard maintenance things of 1) Repair Disk
Permissions, 2) Safe Disk Boot, 3) delete caches and do resets with a
utility like OnyX. Be sure you get the correct version of OnyX for
Tiger.
Note also that, IIRC, a Safe Disk Boot in Tiger doesn't do as many
maintenance things as in Leopard, SL, and Lion.
After all that, if the problem persists, you could re-install Tiger and
do all the upgrades but I think I'd take it in to be checked at an
Apple Store or Apple dealer.
Good luck.
Denver Dan
On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 09:51:27 -0600, Jay Abraham wrote:
> Any suggestions on how to troubleshoot this. I started getting the
> panics after I upgraded the Tower to Leopard about a year ago. They
> would come every couple of days. Would notice that the system fan
> would spin up to high and the screen would be dark and I couldn't get
> system to turn on. In most cases, I noticed it after leaving the
> room for a couple of hours. In some case, the Mac screen would say
> that the OS quit and I needed to restart.
>
> Not sure of the exact timeline in that this happened after I updated
> to Leopard. At the same time I did that I added an additional
> internal drive. Haven't done anything else.
>
> It is getting more frequent now - usually a couple of times a day so
> I'm forced to troubleshoot it. The system fan also seems to spin up
> to high a lot even when it doesn't appear anything is using
> resources. Not using as my primary computer anymore but rather as a
> media server, backup, etc. I haven't kept past copies of the system
> report but the usually said unresolved kernel trap and didn't point
> to one thing consistently. I have tried starting up in Safe mode to
> see if I still have kernel panics and I still do.
>
> Should I try reinstalling Tiger and seeing if this fixes the
> problem. I no longer need Leopard - had to put it in to ensure I
> could still have my calendars sync with MobileMe.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jay
- 4d.
-
Re: Kernel Panics - G5 Tower
Posted by: "Jay Abraham" jaygroups@abrahamgroup.net kerala01212001
Wed Feb 8, 2012 12:53 pm (PST)
Hi Dan,
Thanks for the suggestions. Will try them. I haven't installed anything additional (memory, video cards, etc) or replaced anything other than an additional hard drive since I got the computer from Apple - I guess about 7-8 years ago. Current operating system is Leopard but I started having these problems (I think) only after I upgraded to Leopard - which is why I was thinking of downgrading.
Jay
On Feb 8, 2012, at 11:07 AM, Denver Dan wrote:
> Howdy.
>
> Jay, a kernal panic is often a sign of hardware problems. Could be a
> cable, a port, RAM, a video card, or other.
>
> Is your video card in the G5 Tower the original one?
>
> If it's a 2nd or extra video card it might have a cooling fan on it
> which is what you are hearing (a maybe).
>
> My ancient computer "nose" is twitching and telling me that you may
> have a hardware issue with the video card. That's hard to troubleshoot
> on your own unless you have a 2nd AND compatible video card you can
> install yourself to see if the problem stops or doesn't stop.
>
> If you have a G5 Tower, then you could also check inside the case for
> dust accumulation. Dust can sometimes cause overheating which can
> occasionally cause a shut down but it's fairly rare. The fastest G5
> PowerPC Tower, before being replaced by Intel processors, had 9 cooling
> fans plus a liquid radiator cooling system and all that can suck in a
> lot of dust. In addition, the G5 Towers with the liquid cooling
> radiator system did have occasional problems with leakage. Worth a
> good check for all that and perhaps a good and very careful
> cleaning/dusting inside.
>
> If possible, also check to see if all the fans are functioning and none
> have frozen. You can open the Tower while it's running but don't
> remove the clear plastic air vent deflector device in the middle (it
> has a switch that when removed puts the Tower to sleep).
>
> There are free utilities like iStat and iStat Nano that will list a
> variety of informatinal items like RPM of the various fans (my MacPro
> Tower has 4 fans and is current showing 499 RPM to 599 RPM for them).
> It also shows the temperatures of drive bays and the CPUs.
>
> The first thing you could try is to remove all extra stuff including
> added RAM, 2nd HD, all cables except keyboard/mouse and monitor, remove
> any PCI cards except original video card.
>
> Then do the usual 3 standard maintenance things of 1) Repair Disk
> Permissions, 2) Safe Disk Boot, 3) delete caches and do resets with a
> utility like OnyX. Be sure you get the correct version of OnyX for
> Tiger.
>
> Note also that, IIRC, a Safe Disk Boot in Tiger doesn't do as many
> maintenance things as in Leopard, SL, and Lion.
>
> After all that, if the problem persists, you could re-install Tiger and
> do all the upgrades but I think I'd take it in to be checked at an
> Apple Store or Apple dealer.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Denver Dan
>
> On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 09:51:27 -0600, Jay Abraham wrote:
> > Any suggestions on how to troubleshoot this. I started getting the
> > panics after I upgraded the Tower to Leopard about a year ago. They
> > would come every couple of days. Would notice that the system fan
> > would spin up to high and the screen would be dark and I couldn't get
> > system to turn on. In most cases, I noticed it after leaving the
> > room for a couple of hours. In some case, the Mac screen would say
> > that the OS quit and I needed to restart.
> >
> > Not sure of the exact timeline in that this happened after I updated
> > to Leopard. At the same time I did that I added an additional
> > internal drive. Haven't done anything else.
> >
> > It is getting more frequent now - usually a couple of times a day so
> > I'm forced to troubleshoot it. The system fan also seems to spin up
> > to high a lot even when it doesn't appear anything is using
> > resources. Not using as my primary computer anymore but rather as a
> > media server, backup, etc. I haven't kept past copies of the system
> > report but the usually said unresolved kernel trap and didn't point
> > to one thing consistently. I have tried starting up in Safe mode to
> > see if I still have kernel panics and I still do.
> >
> > Should I try reinstalling Tiger and seeing if this fixes the
> > problem. I no longer need Leopard - had to put it in to ensure I
> > could still have my calendars sync with MobileMe.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jay
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
- 4e.
-
Re: Kernel Panics - G5 Tower
Posted by: "Jay Abraham" jaygroups@abrahamgroup.net kerala01212001
Wed Feb 8, 2012 12:59 pm (PST)
Dan,
Installed iStat Nano but any idea of what the normal ranges for some of these things should be?
It appears there are 7 fans ranging from 1000 rpm for Drive bay to 1590 rpm for CPU A and CPU B pump. Also temperatures range from a low of 28º for Tunnel Heatsink to 50º for GPU. CPU A is around 30º and CPU B is around 44º.
Jay
On Feb 8, 2012, at 11:07 AM, Denver Dan wrote:
> There are free utilities like iStat and iStat Nano that will list a
> variety of informatinal items like RPM of the various fans (my MacPro
> Tower has 4 fans and is current showing 499 RPM to 599 RPM for them).
> It also shows the temperatures of drive bays and the CPUs.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
- 5a.
-
Re: How to print large number of PDFs automatically?
Posted by: "André Boey" caenaar@together.net purpleborzoi
Wed Feb 8, 2012 7:52 am (PST)
On Feb 8, 2012, at 8:40 AM, "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net wrote:
> You can make a printer icon that stays on the Desktop or Dock
> permanently even when the printer is not printing.
>
> To make a permanent printer icon:
>
> 1. Open the Print & Scan panel in System Preferences (Panel name is
> from Lion system version).
>
> 2. Drag the icon from the Printers list on left of panel to Desktop or
> to Dock.
>
> If you drag the icon to the Dock, it needs to be on the left of the
> Dock's divider line, in the application section of the Dock.
Dan,
Do you know if the procedure you described works in Lion only? In Snow Leopard, the Dock will not accept the dragged printer icon from System Preferences. To create a permanent Dock printer icon, I need to get the specific printer's .app file from ~/Library/Printers/.
Andre
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
- 5b.
-
Re: How to print large number of PDFs automatically?
Posted by: "Barry Austern" barryaus@fuse.net barryaus
Wed Feb 8, 2012 8:16 am (PST)
At 10:51 PM -0800 2/7/12, DaveC wrote:
>
>
>I have almost 70 single-page PDF files that I want to print with the
>least effort.
>
>How best to do this?
How much do you trust your printer not to jam? Frankly, with most
printers I have used I'd print them maybe no more than ten or so at a
time.
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net
- 5c.
-
Re: How to print large number of PDFs automatically?
Posted by: "Barry Austern" barryaus@fuse.net barryaus
Wed Feb 8, 2012 8:36 am (PST)
At 10:52 AM -0500 2/8/12, André Boey wrote:
>
>
>On Feb 8, 2012, at 8:40 AM, "Denver Dan"
><mailto:denver.dan%40verizon. net>denver.dan@verizon. net
>wrote:
>
>> You can make a printer icon that stays on the Desktop or Dock
>> permanently even when the printer is not printing.
>>
>> To make a permanent printer icon:
>>
>> 1. Open the Print & Scan panel in System Preferences (Panel name is
>> from Lion system version).
>>
>> 2. Drag the icon from the Printers list on left of panel to Desktop or
>> to Dock.
>>
>> If you drag the icon to the Dock, it needs to be on the left of the
>> Dock's divider line, in the application section of the Dock.
>
>Dan,
>
>Do you know if the procedure you described works
>in Lion only? In Snow Leopard, the Dock will not
>accept the dragged printer icon from System
>Preferences. To create a permanent Dock printer
>icon, I need to get the specific printer's .app
>file from ~/Library/Printers/.
I just tried it in Snow Leopard. Does not work.
However, you can put that alias on the desktop,
where I have had it probably since Jaguar days.
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
- 5d.
-
Re: How to print large number of PDFs automatically?
Posted by: "Denver dan" denver.dan@verizon.net denverdan22180
Wed Feb 8, 2012 8:49 am (PST)
I have created printer icons on the Desktop in all Mac OS X iterations going back to Tiger IIRC.
I haven't tried dragging one to the Dock, however, in Snow L.
While I've got Macs running OS 9, OS X Jaguar, Tiger, Leopard, and Lion â€" no Snow (except what is starting here at about 4:00 pm today. :â€"( .
Be sure to try dragging to application side of Dock and not the folder/file side.
!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i! i!i!i!i!i! i!i!i!i!i! i!i!i!i!i! i!i!i!i!i! i!i!i!i
iFrom Denver Dan's iPhone
â€" my magical animal is a butterfly
On Feb 8, 2012, at 10:52 AM, André Boey <caenaar@together.net > wrote:
> On Feb 8, 2012, at 8:40 AM, "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net wrote:
>
>> You can make a printer icon that stays on the Desktop or Dock
>> permanently even when the printer is not printing.
>>
>> To make a permanent printer icon:
>>
>> 1. Open the Print & Scan panel in System Preferences (Panel name is
>> from Lion system version).
>>
>> 2. Drag the icon from the Printers list on left of panel to Desktop or
>> to Dock.
>>
>> If you drag the icon to the Dock, it needs to be on the left of the
>> Dock's divider line, in the application section of the Dock.
>
> Dan,
>
> Do you know if the procedure you described works in Lion only? In Snow Leopard, the Dock will not accept the dragged printer icon from System Preferences. To create a permanent Dock printer icon, I need to get the specific printer's .app file from ~/Library/Printers/.
>
> Andre
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> --------------------- --------- ------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsupportcentral. >com/policies/
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
- 5e.
-
Re: How to print large number of PDFs automatically?
Posted by: "DaveC" davec2468@yahoo.com davec2468
Wed Feb 8, 2012 8:55 am (PST)
>Here is a way to do it that is simple, and which doesn't require you
>to install or purchase anything.
>
>Go to:
>[hard drive icon] --> Users folder --> [your user name] --> Library --
> > Printers
>and drag the icon for your printer into your Dock.
>
>Put all of the files (or copies of them) that you want to print into
>the same folder.
>
>Open the folder and hit Command-A to choose them all.
>
>Make sure that your printer is turned on.
>
>Drag them all on top of the icon for your printer in the Dock.
>
>They will all be printed automatically.
>Randy B. Singer
-=-=-=-
Thanks Randy. I'll try this.
FYI to others: putting the printer icon in the dock is simple: when
you print something, the icon appears temporarily in the dock. If you
right-click (or Control-click) on the icon you can choose "keep in
dock". This will -- as you probably can tell -- keep the icon
permanently in the dock.
Cheers,
Dave
- 6a.
-
Re: BLU RAY
Posted by: "halboye18" hal.horwitz@comcast.net halboye18
Wed Feb 8, 2012 8:25 am (PST)
Thanks to Tod and Denver Dan for your explanations. I guess I'll hold off on trying to do Blu-ray slide shows. Perhaps in the future.
hal
hal.horwitz@comcast.net
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups. , Tod Hopkins <hoplist@...com > wrote:
>
> No. First you should understand that Blu-ray data and Blu-ray video are two different things, just like DVDs with data and an a DVD-video movies.
>
> Blu-ray data discs, more commonly referred to simply as "BDr" can be made with Toast, but you do need a Blu-ray drive (burner). In fact, Blu-ray discs use the same data format as DVDs even though they use a different laser technology and stock. BD burners cost roughly $100-150 for internal and a bit more for external. Stock is about $8+ per disc. LaCie makes a "name brand" external, but it's pricey. Look for small label value added resellers (maybe OWC) or buy the external case and internal drive separately.
>
> Blu-ray video (movies) can be made with an upgraded version of Toast Pro (total cost about $125). The Blu-ray movie format is extremely complex. What Toast makes is a very basic variation of the format. It works though. Final Cut can also make simple Blu-ray video discs. Final Cuts look better in my experience, but that's a more expensive path.
>
> Anything more complicated than these basic discs is expensive (software starting at $600+) and very difficult to make.
>
> Blu-ray video format (file/folder format) can be burned to DVD discs. Most Blu-ray players can play such discs. Since a DVD can only hold a fraction of the data of a BRr disc, such movies are limited in length, but it is a way to create HD quality playback discs without a Blu-ray player. Many players can also play DVD discs with other HD format files (DIVX, h.264, Oog Vorbis, Mkv, AVCHD and others) if you can settle for a custom solution. Check your Blu-ray players manual.
>
> You cannot PLAY Blu-ray movies on Macs, even if you have the right drive and Toast. Apple simply does not support the format. Too complicated to get into here. There is one software package that claims to add Blu-ray playback to Macs, but the reviews of this software are extremely mixed and it's kinda sketchy. I have not tried it. So while you can make a Blu-ray movie disc with a Mac, you can't play it on the Mac to check it. Almost comic if you ask me.
>
> This is all Mac info. Blu-ray is easier on Windows because Microsoft supports the format, at least indirectly. You still need third party software, but there a lot more and playback is not that big a deal. I like the software in the TMPEG family (Pegasys) a lot, though I have not used their Blu-ray authoring app. There compression is excellent quality.
>
> Cheers,
> tod
>
>
> On Feb 7, 2012, at 3:45 PM, halboye18 wrote:
>
> > Can i make a blu ray disc using idvd? or do i need an external blu ray dvd burner?
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > hal
> > hal.horwitz@...
> >
> >
> >
>
> Tod Hopkins
> Hillmann & Carr Inc.
> todhopkins@...
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
- 6b.
-
Re: BLU RAY
Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com todhop
Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:17 am (PST)
Slide shows? Many BD players and TVs have image display capabilities and even built in "slide show" capabilities. These do not require Blu-ray discs. You can do this with DVD and often a thumb drive. Check your manual. Also check Toast documentation as Toast has a few "custom" disc types that might work.
And you might be able to create such slide shows as a playable HD file using iMovie. Again, many players will play ordinary HD files, not just Blu-ray video.
Cheers,
tod
On Feb 8, 2012, at 11:25 AM, halboye18 wrote:
> Thanks to Tod and Denver Dan for your explanations. I guess I'll hold off on trying to do Blu-ray slide shows. Perhaps in the future.
>
> hal
> hal.horwitz@comcast.net
>
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups. , Tod Hopkins <hoplist@...com > wrote:
> >
> > No. First you should understand that Blu-ray data and Blu-ray video are two different things, just like DVDs with data and an a DVD-video movies.
> >
> > Blu-ray data discs, more commonly referred to simply as "BDr" can be made with Toast, but you do need a Blu-ray drive (burner). In fact, Blu-ray discs use the same data format as DVDs even though they use a different laser technology and stock. BD burners cost roughly $100-150 for internal and a bit more for external. Stock is about $8+ per disc. LaCie makes a "name brand" external, but it's pricey. Look for small label value added resellers (maybe OWC) or buy the external case and internal drive separately.
> >
> > Blu-ray video (movies) can be made with an upgraded version of Toast Pro (total cost about $125). The Blu-ray movie format is extremely complex. What Toast makes is a very basic variation of the format. It works though. Final Cut can also make simple Blu-ray video discs. Final Cuts look better in my experience, but that's a more expensive path.
> >
> > Anything more complicated than these basic discs is expensive (software starting at $600+) and very difficult to make.
> >
> > Blu-ray video format (file/folder format) can be burned to DVD discs. Most Blu-ray players can play such discs. Since a DVD can only hold a fraction of the data of a BRr disc, such movies are limited in length, but it is a way to create HD quality playback discs without a Blu-ray player. Many players can also play DVD discs with other HD format files (DIVX, h.264, Oog Vorbis, Mkv, AVCHD and others) if you can settle for a custom solution. Check your Blu-ray players manual.
> >
> > You cannot PLAY Blu-ray movies on Macs, even if you have the right drive and Toast. Apple simply does not support the format. Too complicated to get into here. There is one software package that claims to add Blu-ray playback to Macs, but the reviews of this software are extremely mixed and it's kinda sketchy. I have not tried it. So while you can make a Blu-ray movie disc with a Mac, you can't play it on the Mac to check it. Almost comic if you ask me.
> >
> > This is all Mac info. Blu-ray is easier on Windows because Microsoft supports the format, at least indirectly. You still need third party software, but there a lot more and playback is not that big a deal. I like the software in the TMPEG family (Pegasys) a lot, though I have not used their Blu-ray authoring app. There compression is excellent quality.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > tod
> >
> >
> > On Feb 7, 2012, at 3:45 PM, halboye18 wrote:
> >
> > > Can i make a blu ray disc using idvd? or do i need an external blu ray dvd burner?
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > hal
> > > hal.horwitz@...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Tod Hopkins
> > Hillmann & Carr Inc.
> > todhopkins@...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
- 6c.
-
Re: BLU RAY
Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net denverdan22180
Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:26 am (PST)
Howdy.
Hal, I think you could do a BD slide show just fine. It's the BD movie
part that is the issue.
If you put a bunch of images in several folders, then burn these
folders to a BD disc, you should be able to do a great slide show.
I could do this with Toast, a BD disc, and then insert the BD disc in
my Sony PlayStation 3 (yes, I admit it, I've got one!) and then use the
PlayStation remote and do a great slide show on the big TV.
You can do the same on a Mac that has a BD burner/player and use any of
dozens of programs to do the slide show. For example, the great
shareware program GraphicConverter would do a great slide show.
Via the Sony PlayStation 3 I can also do a slide show on the big TV
directly from any Macintosh on my network. I have a freeware utility
named Playback on the MacPro. Playback lets me designate drives and
folders on the Mac that can be seen and used via the PlayStation 3 on
the big TV. This includes viewing movies and slide shows. The Sony PS
isn't the only device that does this kind of thing, of course.
I have an LG brand BD burner/player in the 2nd optical slot on my
MacPro Tower. The original DVD burner player still works, too. The LG
brand BD burner came from OWC and I've been very happy with it. It
does a great job via Toast burning BD data discs.
I first tried two Pioneer brand BD burners from OWC but both were
defective. OWC has excellent tech support for things like that and
they were also very good at shipping both defective Pioneer units back
at their own expense. The LG unit is slightly slower at burning than
the Pioneer but - it works!
You might have to experiment with the type and brand of BD blank discs
to find ones that work reliably. I've now tried a bunch of different
brands and types.
I've settled on Verbatim BD-R and Verbatim BD-RE discs because they
tend to work will on my machine. Some others worked OK also but a few
had problems.
I've even tried Pioneer brand BD-RE DL (the 50 GB rewritable BD discs)
and while Toast burned them OK at the end of the process my CDFinder
disc cataloger which Toast normally uses to automatically index all
discs that I burn didn't want to cooperate with Toast (I'm sure the
problem was with Toast) on this specific type and size of BD disc.
I've now found BD-R Verbatim blank discs online (try MeritLine) for
about $3.00 a disc. The BD-RE discs are coming down to about $5.00 to
$8.00 a disc.
The BD-RE DL 50 GB rewritable ones are still very expensive with the
cheapest at about $18.00 a disc but also gradually coming down in
price. Of course, one BD-RE DL can hold the equivalent of about 11
DVDs and more than ca 265 CD-R discs.
Good luck. Don't be discouraged by all of this. Just start with it
somewhere and learn as you go.
Denver Dan
On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:25:01 +0000, halboye18 wrote:
> Thanks to Tod and Denver Dan for your explanations. I guess I'll hold
> off on trying to do Blu-ray slide shows. Perhaps in the future.
>
>
> hal
> hal.horwitz@comcast.net
>
- 7a.
-
Re: iCloud and Leopard
Posted by: "ennisart" john@john-ennis.com ennisart
Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:54 am (PST)
Thanks, but I am still using Leopard, not Snow Leopard. That means two upgrades to Lion, which would lead to upgrading Aperture and PS3 and Portfolio, just to manage my photos on my iPhone. Yuk!
John
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups. , Jim Saklad <jimdoc@...> wrote:com
>
> > Is it accurate that I cannot access iCloud from my current OS, Leopard?
> > John
>
> <https://discussions.apple.com/ >thread/3275450? start=0&tstart= 0
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~
> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@...
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
- 8.
-
FaceTime and iChat connection problems
Posted by: "Ron West" ronwest@gmail.com ronwestb12
Wed Feb 8, 2012 10:03 am (PST)
A few days ago I asked for remote desktop advice and a suggestion to
use iChat was made. Here's the problem - I took delivery of a new iMac
for my Mom at my house. We set it up here and got FaceTime working on
my local network with her on the iMac and me on my iPT. We got
FaceTime working off site also with the iMac and a iPad 2. Since I'm
going to be tech support for Mom I'll need to control her desktop
remotely. She took the iMac home and we got her set up with a iChat
account. The problem is that IM works fine with iChat (we can type
back and forth fine) but my Mac Pro wont connect to her iMac (non-stop
spinning sprocket). Also, FaceTime will ring with no answer on my iPT
and the iPad 2. Everything worked fine at my house.
Any suggestions are appreciated.
Need to Reply?
Click one of the "Reply" links to respond to a specific message in the Daily Digest.
Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required)
Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Individual | Switch format to Traditional
Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe
