2/09/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 8729

Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)

1a.
Re: Kernel Panics - G5 Tower From: Jurgen Richter
2a.
Re: harddrive thoughts From: Tod Hopkins
2b.
Re: harddrive thoughts From: Tod Hopkins
2c.
Re: harddrive thoughts From: Denver dan
2d.
Re: harddrive thoughts From: Tod Hopkins
2e.
Re: harddrive thoughts From: Denver dan
2f.
Re: harddrive thoughts From: Tod Hopkins
3a.
Re: Default e-mail app From: Donna Ells
3b.
Re: Default e-mail app From: Donna Ells
4a.
iPhone 4S Caller ID From: Roger Harris
4b.
Re: iPhone 4S Caller ID From: paul smith
4c.
Re: iPhone 4S Caller ID From: Bill Boulware
5a.
Address Book and Contacts formatting From: Roger Harris
5b.
Re: Address Book and Contacts formatting From: Jay Abraham
6a.
Unsubscribe From: maximls35
6b.
Re: Unsubscribe From: Curt Hudson
7a.
Lion Address Book From: Doug Yelmen
7b.
Re: Lion Address Book From: Lester Schonbrun
7c.
Re: Lion Address Book From: Doug Yelmen
7d.
Re: Lion Address Book From: Otto Nikolaus
7e.
Re: Lion Address Book From: Jim Saklad
7f.
Re: Lion Address Book From: Jim Saklad
8a.
Apple Stock From: Harry Flaxman
8b.
Re: Apple Stock From: Rob Frankel
9a.
Re: FaceTime and iChat connection problems From: Denver Dan

Messages

1a.

Re: Kernel Panics - G5 Tower

Posted by: "Jurgen Richter" yahoo-1@sympatico.ca   epsongroups

Thu Feb 9, 2012 6:34 am (PST)



Hi all

Went through that last year myself - G5 Quad tower - getting panics
daily and randomly, so no open file or work was safe until saved every
few minutes.

I also ran istat menu to monitor temperatures too - most of them ran
between 45-55 C, sometimes the fans would cycle quite high (relatively) too.
My current Mac Pro runs at 33 C by comparison with fan speeds 600-1200
RPM. I can't actually hear the unit.

Back to the fix...
In a nutshell, clean out the dust as best as you can and reinstall
Leopard from your original disks, update to latest PPC version and reboot.

More details:
I took the box apart, vacuumed all the fans, all the circuit boards
(while being grounded with a ground strap) with a soft brush attachment,
reset the PMU. And yes, there was a bit of dust. That would account for
the higher than normal temps and RPMs on the fans, and it did fix those,
though I don't recall the exact numbers at this point. I also re-seated
the RAM chips and other removable daughter boards. I also checked for
coolant leaks, a G5-Quad widespread problem, which could have shorted
something out. I found no evidence of any leakage.

The kernel panics always seemed to hit CPU 3, based on the "report"
(Note that this is not number 3, as the first one was actually numbered
CPU 0).
I was still getting kernel panics after the mechanical cleanup, though
not as frequently.

Following that I cloned the hard drive to an external, de-activated
various software installs, such as Adobe Creative Suite, iTunes, etc.,
and erased the hard drive, and reinstalled Leopard, and did the combo
updates to the last one for PPC.
This was in preparation for selling the unit, so I wanted to have a
clean platform to start.

Well, I still have the unit, and it had been running fine without kernel
panics for weeks, until I got everything off the cloned drive onto my
new computer.
It's been shut down since last August... but will be fired up again to
replace the old G4 MDD.

2a.

Re: harddrive thoughts

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Thu Feb 9, 2012 6:39 am (PST)



You're assuming they don't realize when they are making inferior drives. ;)

In fairness to the drive manufacturers, whenever you redesign, you risk new problems, even when the technology is a "commodity." Consider battery recalls for instance. You can reduce that risk, but never eliminate it. We all make mistakes.

As to my description of external drives as a "commodity." External hard drives are built from three mature components: the drive, the controller card, the power supply. For this conversation, I think we can skip the case design even though this is not inconsequential.

For all the English majors our there, yes, I admit that am using "commodity" loosely (at best). Coal is a commodity. Electronics are not.

Cheers,
tod

On Feb 8, 2012, at 1:11 AM, Oneal Neumann wrote:

>
> On 2012 February 7 (at 09:54) Tod Hopkins wrote:
>
> I take this with a grain of salt. They all 'outsource'.
>
> ∑ ∑ ∑
>
> ∑ ∑ ∑
>
> Also consider that this is simply not rocket science anymore. Drives are a commodity. If you buy a cheap drive model, you will get cheap construction. For many uses, that's enough. If you want quality construction, you have to pay more.
>
> Cheers, tod
>
>
> I basically agree with your points, Tod, especially about manufacturers having bad years at different times. As you alluded, probably no one maker is consistently bad on all models.
>
> Randy‚s friend in the harddrive-recovery service may have noticed a lot of Western Digital drives because of the quantity sold, however that is no proof that WD is inherently bad. It may actually be the case that fewer WDs are returned for service as a percentage of sales.
>
> That said, didn‚t you undercut the gist of your post with your final paragraph? If making external harddrives ain‚t rocket science, then why are some manufacturers presumably running into problems with their harddrives?
>
> Thanx. Oneal
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2b.

Re: harddrive thoughts

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Thu Feb 9, 2012 6:44 am (PST)



For all my theoretical babble...

I am, in fact, NOT a fan of WD branded drives at the moment. Current WD external designs are cheap and clumsy and the 1st year failure rate of the internals I purchased when Seagate had design problems was too high. I have not purchased WD drives in months.

Cheers,
tod

On Feb 8, 2012, at 10:12 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote:

>
> On Feb 7, 2012, at 10:11 PM, Oneal Neumann wrote:
>
> > Randy�s friend in the harddrive-recovery service may have noticed a
> > lot of Western Digital drives because of the quantity sold, however
> > that is no proof that WD is inherently bad. It may actually be the
> > case that fewer WDs are returned for service as a percentage of sales.
>
> WD drives have always sold well.
>
> However, my friend didn't base his conclusion that WD drives have
> gone downhill on the number he has seen come in. He based it on
> opening them up and seeing the quality of the components. He runs a
> hard drive recovery service. When a drive comes in that is toast he
> literally opens it up in a clean room and repairs it to get the data
> off of it.
>
> ___________________________________________
> Randy B. Singer
> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
>
> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
> http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
> ___________________________________________
>
>

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com

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2c.

Re: harddrive thoughts

Posted by: "Denver dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Thu Feb 9, 2012 6:51 am (PST)



I agree. A WD MyBook is the only HD drive and case I ever used a 16 lb sledgehammer on to reduce it to dust.

Seagate and WD are on an intense drive to dominate big box retail sales at places like Costco, Sams Club,etc.

They compete on price by reducing quality and features of the cases, their bridge chips, venting.

!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i
iFrom Denver Dan's iPhone

— my magical animal is a butterfly

On Feb 9, 2012, at 9:44 AM, Tod Hopkins <hoplist@hillmanncarr.com> wrote:

> For all my theoretical babble...
>
> I am, in fact, NOT a fan of WD branded drives at the moment. Current WD external designs are cheap and clumsy and the 1st year failure rate of the internals I purchased when Seagate had design problems was too high. I have not purchased WD drives in months.
>
> Cheers,
> tod
>
>
> On Feb 8, 2012, at 10:12 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote:
>
>>
>> On Feb 7, 2012, at 10:11 PM, Oneal Neumann wrote:
>>
>>> Randy�s friend in the harddrive-recovery service may have noticed a
>>> lot of Western Digital drives because of the quantity sold, however
>>> that is no proof that WD is inherently bad. It may actually be the
>>> case that fewer WDs are returned for service as a percentage of sales.
>>
>> WD drives have always sold well.
>>
>> However, my friend didn't base his conclusion that WD drives have
>> gone downhill on the number he has seen come in. He based it on
>> opening them up and seeing the quality of the components. He runs a
>> hard drive recovery service. When a drive comes in that is toast he
>> literally opens it up in a clean room and repairs it to get the data
>> off of it.
>>
>> ___________________________________________
>> Randy B. Singer
>> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
>>
>> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
>> http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
>> ___________________________________________
>>
>>
>
> Tod Hopkins
> Hillmann & Carr Inc.
> todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com
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2d.

Re: harddrive thoughts

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Thu Feb 9, 2012 7:11 am (PST)



I'm not a fan of what either is doing in the retail space. Market competition makes manufacturers much up things that should be very simple. Both are incredibly guilty of this right now. My current favorite cheap drives are the Fantom drives, mostly because their designs are simple and direct. No BS.

By the way, all drives that are not bus powered should have toggle switches! You listening out there?

Cheers,
tod

On Feb 9, 2012, at 9:51 AM, Denver dan wrote:

> I agree. A WD MyBook is the only HD drive and case I ever used a 16 lb sledgehammer on to reduce it to dust.
>
> Seagate and WD are on an intense drive to dominate big box retail sales at places like Costco, Sams Club,etc.
>
> They compete on price by reducing quality and features of the cases, their bridge chips, venting.
>
> !i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i
> iFrom Denver Dan's iPhone
>
> — my magical animal is a butterfly
>
> On Feb 9, 2012, at 9:44 AM, Tod Hopkins <hoplist@hillmanncarr.com> wrote:
>
> > For all my theoretical babble...
> >
> > I am, in fact, NOT a fan of WD branded drives at the moment. Current WD external designs are cheap and clumsy and the 1st year failure rate of the internals I purchased when Seagate had design problems was too high. I have not purchased WD drives in months.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > tod
> >
> >
> > On Feb 8, 2012, at 10:12 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On Feb 7, 2012, at 10:11 PM, Oneal Neumann wrote:
> >>
> >>> Randy�s friend in the harddrive-recovery service may have noticed a
> >>> lot of Western Digital drives because of the quantity sold, however
> >>> that is no proof that WD is inherently bad. It may actually be the
> >>> case that fewer WDs are returned for service as a percentage of sales.
> >>
> >> WD drives have always sold well.
> >>
> >> However, my friend didn't base his conclusion that WD drives have
> >> gone downhill on the number he has seen come in. He based it on
> >> opening them up and seeing the quality of the components. He runs a
> >> hard drive recovery service. When a drive comes in that is toast he
> >> literally opens it up in a clean room and repairs it to get the data
> >> off of it.
> >>
> >> ___________________________________________
> >> Randy B. Singer
> >> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
> >>
> >> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
> >> http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
> >> ___________________________________________
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Tod Hopkins
> > Hillmann & Carr Inc.
> > todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com
> >
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> >
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Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com

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2e.

Re: harddrive thoughts

Posted by: "Denver dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Thu Feb 9, 2012 7:25 am (PST)



150% agreement on the toggle power switch.

The very badly designed and engineered touch sensitive type doesn't work half the time as well as falling into the hideous Japanese commercial product design insanity that a tiny black button on a black background somehow represents quality.

BTW, in my residential group of common-wall 7 town homes. Five of the seven houses are Mac users. Four bought Seagate FreeAgent drives. All 4 failed.

!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i
iFrom Denver Dan's iPhone

— my magical animal is a butterfly

On Feb 9, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Tod Hopkins <hoplist@hillmanncarr.com> wrote:

> I'm not a fan of what either is doing in the retail space. Market competition makes manufacturers much up things that should be very simple. Both are incredibly guilty of this right now. My current favorite cheap drives are the Fantom drives, mostly because their designs are simple and direct. No BS.
>
> By the way, all drives that are not bus powered should have toggle switches! You listening out there?
>
> Cheers,
> tod
>
> On Feb 9, 2012, at 9:51 AM, Denver dan wrote:
>
>> I agree. A WD MyBook is the only HD drive and case I ever used a 16 lb sledgehammer on to reduce it to dust.
>>
>> Seagate and WD are on an intense drive to dominate big box retail sales at places like Costco, Sams Club,etc.
>>
>> They compete on price by reducing quality and features of the cases, their bridge chips, venting.
>>
>> !i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i
>> iFrom Denver Dan's iPhone
>>
>> — my magical animal is a butterfly
>>
>> On Feb 9, 2012, at 9:44 AM, Tod Hopkins <hoplist@hillmanncarr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> For all my theoretical babble...
>>>
>>> I am, in fact, NOT a fan of WD branded drives at the moment. Current WD external designs are cheap and clumsy and the 1st year failure rate of the internals I purchased when Seagate had design problems was too high. I have not purchased WD drives in months.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> tod
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 8, 2012, at 10:12 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 7, 2012, at 10:11 PM, Oneal Neumann wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Randy�s friend in the harddrive-recovery service may have noticed a
>>>>> lot of Western Digital drives because of the quantity sold, however
>>>>> that is no proof that WD is inherently bad. It may actually be the
>>>>> case that fewer WDs are returned for service as a percentage of sales.
>>>>
>>>> WD drives have always sold well.
>>>>
>>>> However, my friend didn't base his conclusion that WD drives have
>>>> gone downhill on the number he has seen come in. He based it on
>>>> opening them up and seeing the quality of the components. He runs a
>>>> hard drive recovery service. When a drive comes in that is toast he
>>>> literally opens it up in a clean room and repairs it to get the data
>>>> off of it.
>>>>
>>>> ___________________________________________
>>>> Randy B. Singer
>>>> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
>>>>
>>>> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
>>>> http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
>>>> ___________________________________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Tod Hopkins
>>> Hillmann & Carr Inc.
>>> todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>
> Tod Hopkins
> Hillmann & Carr Inc.
> todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com
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2f.

Re: harddrive thoughts

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Thu Feb 9, 2012 11:10 am (PST)



One thing I can say with confidence about drive failures... They fail in batches! It's the irony of drive warranties. The drive that failed will be replaced by a drive that has just been proven more likely to fail.

Cheers,
tod

On Feb 9, 2012, at 10:24 AM, Denver dan wrote:

> 150% agreement on the toggle power switch.
>
> The very badly designed and engineered touch sensitive type doesn't work half the time as well as falling into the hideous Japanese commercial product design insanity that a tiny black button on a black background somehow represents quality.
>
> BTW, in my residential group of common-wall 7 town homes. Five of the seven houses are Mac users. Four bought Seagate FreeAgent drives. All 4 failed.
>
> !i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i
> iFrom Denver Dan's iPhone
>
> — my magical animal is a butterfly
>
> On Feb 9, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Tod Hopkins <hoplist@hillmanncarr.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm not a fan of what either is doing in the retail space. Market competition makes manufacturers much up things that should be very simple. Both are incredibly guilty of this right now. My current favorite cheap drives are the Fantom drives, mostly because their designs are simple and direct. No BS.
> >
> > By the way, all drives that are not bus powered should have toggle switches! You listening out there?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > tod
> >
> > On Feb 9, 2012, at 9:51 AM, Denver dan wrote:
> >
> >> I agree. A WD MyBook is the only HD drive and case I ever used a 16 lb sledgehammer on to reduce it to dust.
> >>
> >> Seagate and WD are on an intense drive to dominate big box retail sales at places like Costco, Sams Club,etc.
> >>
> >> They compete on price by reducing quality and features of the cases, their bridge chips, venting.
> >>
> >> !i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i
> >> iFrom Denver Dan's iPhone
> >>
> >> — my magical animal is a butterfly
> >>
> >> On Feb 9, 2012, at 9:44 AM, Tod Hopkins <hoplist@hillmanncarr.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> For all my theoretical babble...
> >>>
> >>> I am, in fact, NOT a fan of WD branded drives at the moment. Current WD external designs are cheap and clumsy and the 1st year failure rate of the internals I purchased when Seagate had design problems was too high. I have not purchased WD drives in months.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> tod
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Feb 8, 2012, at 10:12 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Feb 7, 2012, at 10:11 PM, Oneal Neumann wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Randy�s friend in the harddrive-recovery service may have noticed a
> >>>>> lot of Western Digital drives because of the quantity sold, however
> >>>>> that is no proof that WD is inherently bad. It may actually be the
> >>>>> case that fewer WDs are returned for service as a percentage of sales.
> >>>>
> >>>> WD drives have always sold well.
> >>>>
> >>>> However, my friend didn't base his conclusion that WD drives have
> >>>> gone downhill on the number he has seen come in. He based it on
> >>>> opening them up and seeing the quality of the components. He runs a
> >>>> hard drive recovery service. When a drive comes in that is toast he
> >>>> literally opens it up in a clean room and repairs it to get the data
> >>>> off of it.
> >>>>
> >>>> ___________________________________________
> >>>> Randy B. Singer
> >>>> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
> >>>>
> >>>> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
> >>>> http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
> >>>> ___________________________________________
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Tod Hopkins
> >>> Hillmann & Carr Inc.
> >>> todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com
> >>>
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Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com

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3a.

Re: Default e-mail app

Posted by: "Donna Ells" dellis70@tampabay.rr.com   dellis551

Thu Feb 9, 2012 7:25 am (PST)



What I find frustrating is that I've never tried Mail on this computer
because the app won't do what I need. My husband uses it on his iMac. I have
NEVER set up Mail, and Eudora has always worked flawlessly from the day it
was installed. Now I am trying to go through Mail to access PREFS, disable
Mail and select Outlook, however Mail is making me set up the entire app as
tho it will be utilized. Mail is NOT accepting the information I'm
inserting, though Eudora and Outlook both accepted the SMTP, user name, PW
and authentication. Mail keeps insisting that my user name and PW are
incorrect. I don't really care because it says if I click "continue", Mail
will manually set things up, but won't be able to retrieve mail. I just want
to get to a point that I can access Mail's Prefs, but the set up won't go
beyond this error message. If someone else advised me they were receiving
the error, I would, of course, think they are mistyping. I'm not happy with
Mail at all right now. VBS
Donna

From: Jim Saklad <jimdoc@me.com>
Reply-To: Mac Support Central <macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:12:03 -0500
To: Mac Support Central <macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [macsupport] Default e-mail app

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>
>
>

from Barry:
>> > Apple has a funny way. The preferences to set your default mail application
>> are in Mail and to set the default browser are in Safari.
>> >
>> > IN other words, you have to go to Apple's favorite one to switch away from
>> it.
>
> I mostly use Safari as a browser, but I have both Firefox and Chrome for
> "special occasions".
>
> Both Firefox and Chrome make use of the "hooks" in MacOS X to set the default
> browser -- that default can be set to Chrome from within Chrome, and to
> Firefox from within Firefox.

from Jim:
> COULD Apple have left setting the default as an item in System Preferences? Of
> course they could. But not making use of the "hooks" that exist in MacOS X to
> set the default is not Apple's fault, it's Eudora's, or Outlook's. It's bad
> programming in those mailers.
>
>

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3b.

Re: Default e-mail app

Posted by: "Donna Ells" dellis70@tampabay.rr.com   dellis551

Thu Feb 9, 2012 8:42 am (PST)



OK, after I had my temper tantrum, I went back to Mail's open window and
clicked CONTINUE one more time. No changes were made in the field entries.
Just clicked on the CONTINUE button, and it continued. SIGH. So thanks, Dan,
for explaining how to accomplish what needed to be done ­ sorry for the
outburst LOL
de
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4a.

iPhone 4S Caller ID

Posted by: "Roger Harris" skunktown@gmail.com   robo_booger

Thu Feb 9, 2012 7:54 am (PST)



Any idea why the display of the caller might simply read the phone number - as opposed to the name? This happens from time to time, but not always. And yes, the caller is in my contacts list with name.

for example I get a call from "old-what's-her-name" and it just displays her number.

TIA, Roger

4b.

Re: iPhone 4S Caller ID

Posted by: "paul smith" kullervo@nycap.rr.com   waldonny

Thu Feb 9, 2012 10:31 am (PST)



The most likely explanation is that the data shown is controlled by the caller, who chooses to display only the number.
--
PSmith
MacBook Pro, 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB DDR2 SDRAM, OS 10.7.3 iPhone 4S 64 GB, iOS 5.0.1

On Feb 9, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Roger Harris wrote:

Any idea why the display of the caller might simply read the phone number - as opposed to the name? This happens from time to time, but not always. And yes, the caller is in my contacts list with name.

for example I get a call from "old-what's-her-name" and it just displays her number.

4c.

Re: iPhone 4S Caller ID

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com   boulware0224

Thu Feb 9, 2012 10:34 am (PST)



All cell phones only receive number for incoming calls but it gets matched
to contacts to display name.

I would say that you likely have two or more contacts with the same number
and one doesn't have a name and it is the first one that gets matched.

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 13:31, paul smith <kullervo@nycap.rr.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> The most likely explanation is that the data shown is controlled by the
> caller, who chooses to display only the number.
> --
> PSmith
> MacBook Pro, 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB DDR2 SDRAM, OS 10.7.3 iPhone 4S
> 64 GB, iOS 5.0.1
>
>
> On Feb 9, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Roger Harris wrote:
>
> Any idea why the display of the caller might simply read the phone number
> - as opposed to the name? This happens from time to time, but not always.
> And yes, the caller is in my contacts list with name.
>
> for example I get a call from "old-what's-her-name" and it just displays
> her number.
>
>
>

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5a.

Address Book and Contacts formatting

Posted by: "Roger Harris" skunktown@gmail.com   robo_booger

Thu Feb 9, 2012 7:56 am (PST)



Is there a way to retroactively format the way a phone number is displayed in these two apps?

Reason I ask is that I have numerous contacts whose numbers read like this: xxxxxxxxxx, as opposed to this: (xxx) xxx-xxxx.

Can I get the app to fix that for me, or do I have to do it manually?

TIA, Roger

5b.

Re: Address Book and Contacts formatting

Posted by: "Jay Abraham" jaygroups@abrahamgroup.net   kerala01212001

Thu Feb 9, 2012 10:39 am (PST)



Hi Roger,

In Address Book, go to Preferences:Phone, then click on automatically format phone numbers. Select the format you want or define your own. Close the preference pane, select a different contact and it should change.

Jay

On Feb 9, 2012, at 9:56 AM, Roger Harris wrote:

> Is there a way to retroactively format the way a phone number is displayed in these two apps?
>
> Reason I ask is that I have numerous contacts whose numbers read like this: xxxxxxxxxx, as opposed to this: (xxx) xxx-xxxx.
>
> Can I get the app to fix that for me, or do I have to do it manually?
>
> TIA, Roger

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6a.

Unsubscribe

Posted by: "maximls35" schonbrun@gmail.com   maximls35

Thu Feb 9, 2012 8:10 am (PST)



Please unsubscribe me

6b.

Re: Unsubscribe

Posted by: "Curt Hudson" curt183@snip.net   orion183

Thu Feb 9, 2012 9:13 am (PST)



You do this yourself. Look at the lower right of the email, click on "unsubscribe" an it's done.

Curt

On Feb 9, 2012, at 11:10 AM, maximls35 wrote:

> Please unsubscribe me
>
>

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7a.

Lion Address Book

Posted by: "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen@earthlink.net   dougyelmen

Thu Feb 9, 2012 10:57 am (PST)



Is there a way to delete entries in Lion's address book?
could someone please tell me how?
thanks,
doug

Doug Yelmen
dougyelmen@earthlink.net

27" iMac, 2.93 GHz Intel Core i7, ATI Radeon HD 5750, 16 GB DDR3 OS 10.7.3

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7b.

Re: Lion Address Book

Posted by: "Lester Schonbrun" schonbrun@gmail.com   maximls35

Thu Feb 9, 2012 11:15 am (PST)



Can someone help me unsubscribe? Thank you.

On Feb 9, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Doug Yelmen <dougyelmen@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Is there a way to delete entries in Lion's address book?
> could someone please tell me how?
> thanks,
> doug
>
> Doug Yelmen
> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>
> 27" iMac, 2.93 GHz Intel Core i7, ATI Radeon HD 5750, 16 GB DDR3 OS 10.7.3
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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7c.

Re: Lion Address Book

Posted by: "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen@earthlink.net   dougyelmen

Thu Feb 9, 2012 11:26 am (PST)



was it something i said? or someone else?

to unsubscribe, go the the homepage and do it there, or merely look at the bottom
of any email from the list, it gives you all the information you could ask for.
but, here it is:
>
>

doug
On Feb 9, 2012, at 10:17 AM, Lester Schonbrun wrote:

> Can someone help me unsubscribe? Thank you.
>
>
>
> On Feb 9, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Doug Yelmen <dougyelmen@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Is there a way to delete entries in Lion's address book?
>> could someone please tell me how?
>> thanks,
>> doug
>>
>> Doug Yelmen
>> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>>
>> 27" iMac, 2.93 GHz Intel Core i7, ATI Radeon HD 5750, 16 GB DDR3 OS 10.7.3
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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7d.

Re: Lion Address Book

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Thu Feb 9, 2012 11:32 am (PST)



Just click on the 'Unsubscribe' link that appears in every message from the
group.

Otto

On 9 February 2012 18:17, Lester Schonbrun <schonbrun@gmail.com> wrote:

> Can someone help me unsubscribe? Thank you.
>

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7e.

Re: Lion Address Book

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Thu Feb 9, 2012 11:41 am (PST)



> Can someone help me unsubscribe? Thank you.

I am editing out all the stuff between your question at the top of the message you sent
and the answer, which was located at the bottom of the message you sent.

> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> macsupportcentral-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

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7f.

Re: Lion Address Book

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Thu Feb 9, 2012 11:43 am (PST)



> Is there a way to delete entries in Lion's address book?
> could someone please tell me how?

Well, what I do is:
1. Open AddressBook
2. Click on an entry in the left-hand pane
3. Press the delete key
4. Confirm delete

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8a.

Apple Stock

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com   hflaxman001

Thu Feb 9, 2012 2:06 pm (PST)



Anyone know what's up with Apple's stock?

It's skyrocketing.

Harry

8b.

Re: Apple Stock

Posted by: "Rob Frankel" rob@robfrankel.com   robfrankeldotcom

Thu Feb 9, 2012 2:15 pm (PST)



At 5:05 PM -0500 2/9/12, Harry Flaxman wrote thusly:
>Anyone know what's up with Apple's stock?
>
>It's skyrocketing.
>
>Harry
>

Smells like a run-up to a big announcement. In
Internet Bubble v.1, the same thing happened with
Qualcomm stock. Although it never hit it, the
rumors were targeting it at $1000 a share. the
stock skyrocketed and then nose-dived.

This behavior is typical for "wonder stocks" and
historically hasn't ended well. In this case, I
suspect that in addition to/lacking in an
announcement, there's a feeling that "Apple can
do it without Steve Jobs." A sigh of relief that
may be premature, since the first true
quarter-without-Steve won't occur until some time
next year.

"Buy on the rumor, sell on the news"

My 2¢

--
Rob Frankel, Branding Expert
Twitter: @brandingexpert http://www.RobFrankel.com
http://www.PeerMailing.com http://www.i-legions.com
http://www.FrankelAnderson.com
Yes, there's an RSS feed blog, if you can handle
it: http://www.robfrankelblog.com

9a.

Re: FaceTime and iChat connection problems

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Thu Feb 9, 2012 2:15 pm (PST)



Howdy.

Here's a how to article on how to set up iChat AV for
controlling/helping with someone else's Mac remotely.

It's a step by step set of instructions.

<http://www.ehow.com/how_5080620_use-ichat-control-remote-mac.html>

I think you might not have enabled video sharing (Video menu in iChat).

You didn't mention what type of chat account you used for iChat on your
Mom's Mac and on your Mac. Was it AOL IM? It might help if they are
the same on both and since AOL IM is free it isn't a money burden for
anybody.

Good luck.

Write back to the group and report any progress!

Denver Dan

On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 13:03:34 -0500, Ron West wrote:
> A few days ago I asked for remote desktop advice and a suggestion to
> use iChat was made. Here's the problem - I took delivery of a new iMac
> for my Mom at my house. We set it up here and got FaceTime working on
> my local network with her on the iMac and me on my iPT. We got
> FaceTime working off site also with the iMac and a iPad 2. Since I'm
> going to be tech support for Mom I'll need to control her desktop
> remotely. She took the iMac home and we got her set up with a iChat
> account. The problem is that IM works fine with iChat (we can type
> back and forth fine) but my Mac Pro wont connect to her iMac (non-stop
> spinning sprocket). Also, FaceTime will ring with no answer on my iPT
> and the iPad 2. Everything worked fine at my house.
>
> Any suggestions are appreciated.
>
>

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