Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)
- 1.1.
- Re: Where is iCloud data kept From: OBrien
- 1.2.
- Re: Where is iCloud data kept From: OBrien
- 1.3.
- Re: Where is iCloud data kept From: Barbara Adamski
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- Re: Where is iCloud data kept From: N.A. Nada
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- Re: Where is iCloud data kept From: N.A. Nada
- 1.6.
- Re: Where is iCloud data kept From: OBrien
- 1.7.
- Re: Where is iCloud data kept From: N.A. Nada
- 1.8.
- Re: Where is iCloud data kept From: Daly Jessup
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- Re: Where is iCloud data kept From: Rob Frankel
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- Re: Where is iCloud data kept From: N.A. Nada
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- Re: Where is iCloud data kept From: Daly Jessup
- 1.12.
- Re: Where is iCloud data kept From: N.A. Nada
- 1.13.
- Re: Where is iCloud data kept From: Ardell Faul
- 1.14.
- Re: Where is iCloud data kept From: Barbara Adamski
- 1.15.
- Re: Where is iCloud data kept From: Daly Jessup
- 1.16.
- Re: Where is iCloud data kept From: Dane Reugger
- 2a.
- Re: Scanner Resolution question From: OBrien
- 3a.
- Re: Which WiFi? From: N.A. Nada
- 3b.
- Re: Which WiFi? From: N.A. Nada
- 4a.
- Re: How to add umlauts and emphasis marks in Word 2008? From: Barry Austern
- 4b.
- Re: How to add umlauts and emphasis marks in Word 2008? From: halboye18
- 4c.
- Re: How to add umlauts and emphasis marks in Word 2008? From: halboye18
- 5a.
- Re: Missing plug-in in Mail From: fdski@verizon.net
- 6a.
- Re: sent box in perpetual state of "sending" From: N.A. Nada
- 6b.
- Re: sent box in perpetual state of "sending" From: Barbara Adamski
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- 1.1.
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Re: Where is iCloud data kept
Posted by: "OBrien" bco@hiwaay.net conorboru
Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:30 am (PST)
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 11:23:50 -0800, Daly Jessup wrote:
> Thanks. Yes, that sure is a huge building. But my question really
> is, will I have the ability to make local backups of the calendar
> and address book data, or will it live ONLY in North Carolina?
I assume that it would also reside on your Mac.
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Re: Where is iCloud data kept
Posted by: "OBrien" bco@hiwaay.net conorboru
Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:35 am (PST)
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 11:26:41 -0800, Daly Jessup wrote:
> How would you save it to your Mac?
>
> I know I sound stupid, but there's something about all this that
> makes me uncomfortable.
>
> So, say I'm viewing my Calendar but its content is coming from
> North Carolina. I can just do something like "File/Save" and put
> the calendar data somewhere and now it's on my computer? Would I
> think be able to access that backup, in case North Carolina had a
> hurricane?
I exhausted my knowledge of iCloud. I assume saving to your Mac, and uploading to iCloud would be one operation.
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Re: Where is iCloud data kept
Posted by: "Barbara Adamski" adamski@telus.net bkadamski
Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:56 am (PST)
Also, wouldn't it get backed up to your external drive via Time Machine?
b
On 2012-02-12, at 11:35 AM, OBrien wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 11:26:41 -0800, Daly Jessup wrote:
> > How would you save it to your Mac?
> >
> > I know I sound stupid, but there's something about all this that
> > makes me uncomfortable.
> >
> > So, say I'm viewing my Calendar but its content is coming from
> > North Carolina. I can just do something like "File/Save" and put
> > the calendar data somewhere and now it's on my computer? Would I
> > think be able to access that backup, in case North Carolina had a
> > hurricane?
>
> I exhausted my knowledge of iCloud. I assume saving to your Mac, and uploading to iCloud would be one operation.
>
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Re: Where is iCloud data kept
Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net
Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:01 pm (PST)
On Feb 12, 2012, at 10:15 AM, Rob Frankel wrote:
>
> Well, now you're getting to one of my main peeves, which is that
> entrusting your data to any third party exposes you to their
> vulnerabilities. Although clouds (read: remotely accessible server
> farms via internet) are supposedly secure, it's like anything else:
> when the plug gets kicked out of the wall, or their security is
> breached, you'd better have your own local data backup.
>
> (Great link for you who are concerned:
> http://features.techworld. com/personal- tech/3333293/ worst-internet- privacy-scandals -of-all-time/
> )
Which is more likely to cause my info to be taken, having my personal computer or some server where thousands of people's info is stored? I'd say the server is the better target since it has the bigger reward for the cracker.
Great article, since it includes several companies that are generally good, but made mistakes.
I may be mildly paranoid, but by being aware, I avoid the obvious pitfalls. They are after me individually, but I don't need to be rounded up with the other helpless sheep.
OT: IBM is not a good company. If you doubt me, read "IBM and the Holocaust: The Strategic Alliance Between Nazi Germany and America's Most Powerful Corporation" by Edwin Black.
Brent
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Re: Where is iCloud data kept
Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net
Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:05 pm (PST)
On Feb 12, 2012, at 10:22 AM, OBrien wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:14:48 -0500, Michael P. Stupinski wrote:
> > But does that mean that it will also be in NC, or that it will exist
> > only in NC? I thought iCloud was basically an intermediary site to
> > which all your devices would synchronize. I'm not close to using it
> > yet, but would like to understand it better, too.
>
> AFAIK, everything is stored in North Carolina.
Could Daly have meant on her Mac or iDevices as apposed to some server?
Just another thought.
And I have yet to see any confirmation as to the speculation that North Carolina is where the iCloud servers are, even though that is the most logical location. But then again, Apple is a very secret company.
Brent
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Re: Where is iCloud data kept
Posted by: "OBrien" bco@hiwaay.net conorboru
Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:12 pm (PST)
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:05:35 -0800, N.A. Nada wrote:
> And I have yet to see any confirmation as to the speculation that
> North Carolina is where the iCloud servers are...
<http://www.datacenterknowledge. >com/archives/ 2011/06/06/ steve-jobs- provides- a-look-inside- the-idatacenter/
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Re: Where is iCloud data kept
Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net
Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:29 pm (PST)
On Feb 12, 2012, at 10:53 AM, Michael P. Stupinski wrote:
> That sounds worse than MobileMe rather than an improvement.
> Currently, I always have calendar data on the computer, but it may be
> out of date. Once I synch, however, it gets updated. Then I can
> leave the web and the latest data is on the computer. No need to save
> it ... it automatically gets saved when I synch. It sounds like if I
> do the same with iCloud I need to take an extra step to save the data,
> or I'll need to go to the cloud again to get it. The advantage of
> iCloud is then ... ??
>
> I must be missing something here.
The advantage is most of the time, it should "instantaneously" sync the data.
The disadvantage is that in that rare case that the server goes down, depending how your end is set up, you could be without data, temporarily or permanently. Or your data could be exposed to those who you don't want having it.
Are you feeling lucky?
I sync my important and private stuff by cable or local password protected WiFi. I sync my who cares stuff, like my grocery list in Notes, by the Cloud, but it's home is my devices and not someone else's server. If the Cloud loses or shares my grocery list, who cares?
Mild paranoia is good, it keeps you safe and on your toes.
Brent
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Re: Where is iCloud data kept
Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com
Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:42 pm (PST)
Dear Barbara,
Sure it would be backed up IF it existed on your machine. That's whatt I'm trying to figure out. Will Calendars and Addresses just be displays of what is on the "mothership" or will they actually exist on my machine (somewhere)? If they don't exist physically on my hard drive, I don't see how Tme Machine could back them up.
Daly
On Feb 12, 2012, at 11:56 AM, Barbara Adamski wrote:
> Also, wouldn't it get backed up to your external drive via Time Machine?
>
> b
>
> On 2012-02-12, at 11:35 AM, OBrien wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 11:26:41 -0800, Daly Jessup wrote:
>>> How would you save it to your Mac?
>>>
>>> I know I sound stupid, but there's something about all this that
>>> makes me uncomfortable.
>>>
>>> So, say I'm viewing my Calendar but its content is coming from
>>> North Carolina. I can just do something like "File/Save" and put
>>> the calendar data somewhere and now it's on my computer? Would I
>>> think be able to access that backup, in case North Carolina had a
>>> hurricane?
>>
>> I exhausted my knowledge of iCloud. I assume saving to your Mac, and uploading to iCloud would be one operation.
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Re: Where is iCloud data kept
Posted by: "Rob Frankel" rob@robfrankel.com robfrankeldotcom
Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:43 pm (PST)
Dirty little secret is that you can have all the advantages of the
cloud, without ever using the cloud. There are all kinds of apps
that allow you to remotely access your home Mac from just about any
other device, such as your iPod Touch, iPhone, or iPad.
As long as you keep your home Mac powered up and online, you can have
your own little cloud, with nobody managing, snooping -- or charging
you for the privilege.
One app that I use with my iPod Touch is called Presence. I love it.
Best $40 I spent. No subscriptions, no fees, no nothing. Just
reliable access via any wifi.
http://flyingmac.com/presence/
--
Rob Frankel, Branding Expert
Twitter: @brandingexpert http://www.RobFrankel.com
http://www.PeerMailing.com http://www.i-legions.com
http://www.FrankelAnderson.com
Yes, there's an RSS feed blog, if you can handle it:
http://www.robfrankelblog.com
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Re: Where is iCloud data kept
Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net
Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:43 pm (PST)
On Feb 12, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Daly Jessup wrote:
> I know I sound stupid, but there's something about all this that makes me uncomfortable.
No, you don't. You have been burned before, and you are just trying to be __informed__ to make good choices, and __prepared__ in case something were to happen.
I call myself mildly paranoid, because those are exactly the questions I ask. It is easier for others to understand me that way. I'm really not paranoid, just weighing my choices and being prepared for "things".
I have always amazed people at work when things go wrong, that I have already thought it through, and have a plan in place ready to go. You're just doing the same and not being a sheep or lemming. Very adult of you.
Brent
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Re: Where is iCloud data kept
Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com
Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:44 pm (PST)
On Feb 12, 2012, at 12:29 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
>
> I sync my important and private stuff by cable or local password protected WiFi. I sync my who cares stuff, like my grocery list in Notes, by the Cloud, but it's home is my devices and not someone else's server. If the Cloud loses or shares my grocery list, who cares?
Now, that is interesting. If you are using iCloud, how do you set your data to save to local devices? That's what's worrying me.
Daly
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Re: Where is iCloud data kept
Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net
Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:45 pm (PST)
On Feb 12, 2012, at 12:12 PM, OBrien wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:05:35 -0800, N.A. Nada wrote:
> > And I have yet to see any confirmation as to the speculation that
> > North Carolina is where the iCloud servers are...
>
> <http://www.datacenterknowledge. >com/archives/ 2011/06/06/ steve-jobs- provides- a-look-inside- the-idatacenter/
>
Thank you.
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Re: Where is iCloud data kept
Posted by: "Ardell Faul" ardell@icehouse.net computer_monitor_service_company
Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:45 pm (PST)
Sooner or later, but certainly, one of the "cloud" servers and the
backups is going to fail, and everybody who has put there data (and
trust) there is going to have a new understanding of loss. Then the
debate will cease.
Ardell Faul
Computer Monitor Service Inc.
Ardell's Laptop and PC Repair
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On 2/12/2012 11:56 AM, Barbara Adamski wrote:
> Also, wouldn't it get backed up to your external drive via Time Machine?
>
> b
>
> On 2012-02-12, at 11:35 AM, OBrien wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 11:26:41 -0800, Daly Jessup wrote:
>>> How would you save it to your Mac?
>>>
>>> I know I sound stupid, but there's something about all this that
>>> makes me uncomfortable.
>>>
>>> So, say I'm viewing my Calendar but its content is coming from
>>> North Carolina. I can just do something like "File/Save" and put
>>> the calendar data somewhere and now it's on my computer? Would I
>>> think be able to access that backup, in case North Carolina had a
>>> hurricane?
>> I exhausted my knowledge of iCloud. I assume saving to your Mac, and uploading to iCloud would be one operation.
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Re: Where is iCloud data kept
Posted by: "Barbara Adamski" adamski@telus.net bkadamski
Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:47 pm (PST)
Hmm I have no idea. But this is something I'll want to know about before I upgrade to Lion.
b
On 2012-02-12, at 12:42 PM, Daly Jessup wrote:
> Dear Barbara,
>
> Sure it would be backed up IF it existed on your machine. That's whatt I'm trying to figure out. Will Calendars and Addresses just be displays of what is on the "mothership" or will they actually exist on my machine (somewhere)? If they don't exist physically on my hard drive, I don't see how Tme Machine could back them up.
>
> Daly
>
>
> On Feb 12, 2012, at 11:56 AM, Barbara Adamski wrote:
>
>> Also, wouldn't it get backed up to your external drive via Time Machine?
>>
>> b
>>
>> On 2012-02-12, at 11:35 AM, OBrien wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 11:26:41 -0800, Daly Jessup wrote:
>>>> How would you save it to your Mac?
>>>>
>>>> I know I sound stupid, but there's something about all this that
>>>> makes me uncomfortable.
>>>>
>>>> So, say I'm viewing my Calendar but its content is coming from
>>>> North Carolina. I can just do something like "File/Save" and put
>>>> the cale
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Re: Where is iCloud data kept
Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com
Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:02 pm (PST)
On Feb 12, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Ardell Faul wrote:
> Sooner or later, but certainly, one of the "cloud" servers and the
> backups is going to fail, and everybody who has put there data (and
> trust) there is going to have a new understanding of loss. Then the
> debate will cease.
BUT if you can also back up the data on your own Mac, it would not be catastropic. That's exactly what I'm asking. Does the data stored on iCloud also get written to your Mac so you can back it up?
Yes, or no. (or is there no yes or no available yet?)
Daly
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Re: Where is iCloud data kept
Posted by: "Dane Reugger" dane@downtownpc.com dar2112
Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:36 pm (PST)
Your data is synced to the cloud from your computer and the data remains on
your computer unless you remove it. You can test this - disconnect from the
Internet and access your data without the cloud being available.
-Dane
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Daly Jessup <jessup@san.rr.com > wrote:
> On Feb 12, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Ardell Faul wrote:
>
> > Sooner or later, but certainly, one of the "cloud" servers and the
> > backups is going to fail, and everybody who has put there data (and
> > trust) there is going to have a new understanding of loss. Then the
> > debate will cease.
>
> BUT if you can also back up the data on your own Mac, it would not be
> catastropic. That's exactly what I'm asking. Does the data stored on iCloud
> also get written to your Mac so you can back it up?
>
> Yes, or no. (or is there no yes or no available yet?)
>
> Daly
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Re: Scanner Resolution question
Posted by: "OBrien" bco@hiwaay.net conorboru
Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:32 am (PST)
On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:49:37 -0500, Denver Dan wrote:
> I'll add one more thing about scanning software.
>
> A great feature to have is called "Descreen."
It's useful, but not magic...just a blur operation, so the image might no longer be screened, but it will not be sharp, either.
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Re: Which WiFi?
Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net
Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:35 am (PST)
I agree with most of what Kunga is saying, with the following exceptions.
Keeping a desk cable free is an acceptable reason to use WiFi at 2 feet, but he is right about the speed.
In the apartment complex I live in, there are 2 Netgear networks. One of them changed the default name to Netgear59, which makes it easier for the owner to figure which is their own and not the other. I changed mine so I don't announce what type of WiFi router I am using, making others work to figure that out.
In Sys Prefs> Network> select Wi-Fi and check the "Ask to join new networks" box and then Apply. Once you establish your network on Jim's iMac, it will them ask to join another if it can not find yours. You may have to change channels to avoid interference with your neighbor's network if it is traveling that far. Which by the way it normally would not. I once lived in a 400-unit apartment complex, and only saw about 12 networks. But with little to physically block the WiFi it is possible, but unusual.
Your cable provider should be able to help you set a password on the router, but you may have to go into Airport Utility for your iMacs to set it up it from that end. It is located at Airport Utility> Airport icon tab> Wireless tab.
You appear to be running an earlier Mac OS X, I am running 10.7.3, since you called the Menu Bar pull down Airport and not WiFi.
Brent
On Feb 12, 2012, at 9:53 AM, Kunga wrote:
> On Feb 12, 2012, at 9:35 AM, Donna Ells wrote:
>
> > We have WiFi thru the local cable company using Netgear modem.
> > There are 2 iMacs in our home and one wireless printer.
> > My iMac is about 2 feet from the modem, connected wirelessly.
>
> That is not the correct way to be connected to the internet 2 feet from the router. Whenever you can connect a computer to a router via an Ethernet cable it is advantageous to do so. Your wireless connection is radically slower than if you simply connect your iMac with a short Ethernet cable to the router 2 feet away - never connect wirelessly from 2 feet away. You will notice radically faster performance as soon as you hook it up that way and TURN OFF your Wi-Fi. Go into network settings to make sure your internet connection is resumed after you TURN OFF your Wi-Fi. You need to TURN OFF your Wi-Fi to force the computer to use the faster Ethernet cable connection. Your computer will still have access to the wireless printer even with your Wi-Fi turned OFF. Leave Wi-Fi OFF all the time. Your still on the same network as the printer even though your are hard wired to the router.
>
> > Jack's iMac is about 50 feet away in another room connected wirelessly. The
> > wireless printer is in that room also.
> > The wireless printer works without a problem. So did Jack's iMac until
> > recently.
> >
> > We live in a neighborhood where everyone has 5 acres �all around us.
> > Jack's iMac has begun peculiar behavior in the past month.
> > He is dropped from the internet unexpectedly. I notice each time that there
> > are multiple modem options on his computer when accessing the modem pull
> > down menu to determine is Airport connectivity.
> >
> > Our netgear is password protected. Apparently, others are not.
> > Sometimes, Jack's computer is logging into a neighbor's netgear, and after a
> > few minutes, he is dropped. If I go into the Airport pull down menu and wait
> > for it to search options, it will provide 2 to 6 other options for logging
> > in. So we have to keep choosing Netgear options until ours is finally found.
> > We finally figured out Jack's computer is attempting to log into our
> > neighbors' modems, because one neighbor recently purchased a Buffalo
> > AirStation WiFi modem and now that option is popping up.
> >
> > How can we make it so his computer only searches for our modem?
>
> In your Wi-Fi settings you can set it to FORGET networks other than your own. Then it won't try to connect to them.
>
> > How can we make sure our neighbors are not accessing our WiFi?
>
> Add a password to your router's settings. Call your cable company for technical assistance as to how.
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Re: Which WiFi?
Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net
Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:21 pm (PST)
On Feb 12, 2012, at 10:50 AM, Tod Hopkins wrote:
> I have this problem sometimes.
>
> You should first call your cable provider to assist you in renaming your wireless connection so you can identify it. I don't much care about passwords myself but you might want to add one so your neighbor does not have a similar problem. In fact, if you can, ask your neighbor to do the same. You will both have less trouble.
>
> The likely reason for the switch is that something is causing your connection to drop momentarily and the iMac quickly looks for the only available option and connects to the neighbor since there is no password. It's just trying to help. ;)
>
> Open your Network Preferences, highlight the Airport connection at the left, click Advanced button (lower right).
>
> You should see a list of "Preferred Networks" in the center. This should include everything you've ever connected to. Drag these into the correct order, top to bottom, and use the "-" button to delete any you don't want to connect to. This might be a bit tricky until you can distinguish your connection from your neighbors.
>
> I do not know if you can disallow a particular connection. Probably. Someone else may have a suggestion. But you can mitigate the problem by making interference less of a problem. When you call your cable company, ask them to help you change your channel to the other end of the range. Other common sources of interference are wireless phones (not cell, but wireless) and microwaves and pretty much any other radio device. Keep all such devices away from both the router and your iMac.
Tod,
thanks, I couldn't find the Preferred Networks list. I cleared out a bunch of old networks, from when I lived in another state and traveled for work. And a few that I did not recognize. I don't need the Flat Iron Apple Store or Holiday Inn any more.
Donna,
when Tod says interference, he omitted things like refrigerators, plumbing in the walls, cast iron tubs, the studs in the walls themselves, masonry, the wire mesh behind stucco, etcetera. If enough of them are in the "line of sight" between Jim's iMac and the WiFi router, they will make the signal weak at Jim's end, and a change of a foot or two, or even a couple of inches, can make a huge difference in the signal strength and speed. That is why you may be able to use the printer, but he has problems reaching the router.
Brent
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Re: How to add umlauts and emphasis marks in Word 2008?
Posted by: "Barry Austern" barryaus@fuse.net barryaus
Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:25 pm (PST)
At 5:13 PM +0000 2/12/12, halboye18 wrote:
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>
>I used to know how to bring up a table of
>various permutations of these marks where you
>would double click on the one you wanted and it
>appeared in the document .... but cannot find
>it. Can anyone please help?
The option key is your friend. First of all,
option-C gives the cedilla (� in both upper and
lower case, depending on whether or not the shift
is pressed. Then there are keys that do nothing
until you hit the next key. Option-e gives an
acute accent, such as � option-` gives a grave
accent (�, option-i a circumflex (�, option-u
an umlaut or dieresis (� and option-n gives a
tilde, as in the Spanish �or the Portuguese �
I'm still on Snow Leopard, but I understand that
Lion gives you another way too, as iOS does. Hold
down the key and instead of getting a repeating
key you get a menu of accented choices. After
all, how many times do you really want to type
iiiiiii?
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net
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Re: How to add umlauts and emphasis marks in Word 2008?
Posted by: "halboye18" hal.horwitz@comcast.net halboye18
Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:42 pm (PST)
Thanks, Barry ... that works just fine.
Thanks so much,
hal
hal.horwitz@comcast.net
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups. , Barry Austern <barryaus@..com .> wrote:
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> At 5:13 PM +0000 2/12/12, halboye18 wrote:
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> >
> >
> >I used to know how to bring up a table of
> >various permutations of these marks where you
> >would double click on the one you wanted and it
> >appeared in the document .... but cannot find
> >it. Can anyone please help?
>
> The option key is your friend. First of all,
> option-C gives the cedilla (� in both upper and
> lower case, depending on whether or not the shift
> is pressed. Then there are keys that do nothing
> until you hit the next key. Option-e gives an
> acute accent, such as � option-` gives a grave
> accent (�, option-i a circumflex (�, option-u
> an umlaut or dieresis (� and option-n gives a
> tilde, as in the Spanish �or the Portuguese �
> I'm still on Snow Leopard, but I understand that
> Lion gives you another way too, as iOS does. Hold
> down the key and instead of getting a repeating
> key you get a menu of accented choices. After
> all, how many times do you really want to type
> iiiiiii?
>
> --
> Barry Austern
> barryaus@...
>
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Re: How to add umlauts and emphasis marks in Word 2008?
Posted by: "halboye18" hal.horwitz@comcast.net halboye18
Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:46 pm (PST)
I got the option + method to work, but was unable to find Character Viewer ... I am working in Lion ... can you help me get to the Viewer?
I cannot find it in the formatting palette.
thanks, hal
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups. , Daly Jessup <jessup@...> wrote:com
>
> On Feb 12, 2012, at 9:13 AM, halboye18 wrote:
>
> > I used to know how to bring up a table of various permutations of these marks where you would double click on the one you wanted and it appeared in the document .... but cannot find it. Can anyone please help?
>
>
> Well, you can do that with PopChar, or you can do it using keyboard shortcuts (e.g., type option-u then u alone to get a u with an umlaut). But you mention double clicking.
>
> You are probably talking about Character Viewer.
> Language and Text, then the Input Sources tab. There, put a checkmark next to Keyboard & Character Viewer, at the top of the list. That will make an icon appear in your menu bar near the right side, where you can choose Character Viewer, and find all the characters you could possibly want (IF you can find them there!).
>
> Daly
>
>
>
>
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> 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7, 8 GB RAM, 27" screen, OS X 10.6.8,
> AMD Radeon HD 6970M video, wired Apple mouse and keyboard. Partition: GUID Partition Table.
>
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Re: Missing plug-in in Mail
Posted by: "fdski@verizon.net" fdski@mac.com fdski@verizon.net
Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:26 pm (PST)
Sounds fishy to me. What format is the photo attachment?
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups. , "wvdjyknits" <shrinkingknitter@com ...> wrote:
>
> It appears this issue has popped up in the past, here and in general. I haven't seen it associated with 10.7 OS, though. (I could be wrong.)
>
> I received an e-mail which notes a "Missing Plug-In" instead of a photo. Other e-mails are displaying images properly, it appears (so far) that just this one doesn't.
>
> The usual "fix" is to reset Java preferences and restart Apple Mail, which I've done and which hasn't solved the problem for this e-mail.
>
> I'm not sure if it's worth worrying about ... but I'd rather not have this happen with future e-mails if there's something I can do now. Thanks, as always, for your advice and help.
>
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Re: sent box in perpetual state of "sending"
Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net
Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:33 pm (PST)
On Feb 12, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Barbara Adamski wrote:
> Hi there.
>
> The moving gear icon near my sent box is continuously moving. There is nothing in my outbox (I deleting the message I thought was causing the problem). I've rebuilt my mailboxes, restarted Mail, etc. I am currently repairing permissions. Any other suggestions apart from restarting, which I'll do next?
Are you using 10.7?
Mail was changed if you upgraded to Lion. I have noticed mostly receiving as hanging in continuous receiving and occasionally continuous send.
I use WiFi to connect to the net, and turning off the connection usually does it for me. Quitting and restarting Mail.app does it, too.
Brent
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Re: sent box in perpetual state of "sending"
Posted by: "Barbara Adamski" adamski@telus.net bkadamski
Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:47 pm (PST)
Thanks. I am using 10.6.8.
The problem seems to have resolved itself. I did both your suggestions (and a few more). Nothing worked immediately after trying, but eventually it just started working on its own.
Barb
On 2012-02-12, at 12:33 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
>
> On Feb 12, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Barbara Adamski wrote:
>
> > Hi there.
> >
> > The moving gear icon near my sent box is continuously moving. There is nothing in my outbox (I deleting the message I thought was causing the problem). I've rebuilt my mailboxes, restarted Mail, etc. I am currently repairing permissions. Any other suggestions apart from restarting, which I'll do next?
>
> Are you using 10.7?
>
> Mail was changed if you upgraded to Lion. I have noticed mostly receiving as hanging in continuous receiving and occasionally continuous send.
>
> I use WiFi to connect to the net, and turning off the connection usually does it for me. Quitting and restarting Mail.app does it, too.
>
> Brent
>
>
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