12/31/2011

[apple-iphone] Digest Number 2845

Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)

1a.
Re: Droid-like iPhone keyboard? From: Archie C Grapa
1b.
Re: Droid-like iPhone keyboard? From: Devitt
1c.
Re: Droid-like iPhone keyboard? From: Jim Saklad
1d.
Re: Droid-like iPhone keyboard? From: Alice Saunders
2a.
Fwd: [apple-iphone] Anyone using OverDrive with iOS5? From: Misha Schutt
2b.
Re: Anyone using OverDrive with iOS5? From: Alice Saunders
3.1.
iOS 5 From: Morgan Mandel
3.2.
Re: iOS 5 From: David Morganstein
3.3.
Re: iOS 5 From: Golden One 7
3.4.
Re: iOS 5 From: Paul Deyo
3.5.
Re: iOS 5 From: Vincent Uriah, Jr.
3.6.
Re: iOS 5 From: Alice Saunders
4a.
Re: Anyone using OverDrive with iOS5? From: Carol Corley
4b.
Re: Anyone using OverDrive with iOS5? From: Alice Saunders
4c.
Re: Anyone using OverDrive with iOS5? From: Woody
4d.
Re: Anyone using OverDrive with iOS5? From: Alice Saunders
4e.
Re: Anyone using OverDrive with iOS5? From: Misha Schutt
5a.
Cleaning switches. From: salmo97219
5b.
Re: Cleaning switches. From: Clarke Jesse
5c.
Re: Cleaning switches. From: Moe Rubenzahl
6.
My emalis are not going through in this group From: Rodrigo
7a.
Re: Answering calls From: Alice Saunders
8a.
Re: Actual slide out keyboard/case for iPhone From: Alice Saunders
9a.
Android Blanket Statement From: Alice Saunders
9b.
Re: Android Blanket Statement From: Jim Saklad

Messages

1a.

Re: Droid-like iPhone keyboard?

Posted by: "Archie C Grapa" archiegrapa@yahoo.com   archiegrapa

Sat Dec 31, 2011 4:08 am (PST)



You mean the Swype?
Personally, I'm not happy with it but I think there used to be such app.

 Archie 

On Dec 31, 2011, at 1:00, Devitt <devittad@comcast.net> wrote:

> A friend's son-in-law just got an iPhone 4S after having a Droid. He is unhappy with having to tap the iPhone onscreen keyboard rather than swirling(?) his finger like he did on the Droid. Sorry if I'm unclear, but this is the explanation I got. I'm hoping someone out there who made the transition from Droid to iPhone can comment.
>
> Is there an app which could make the iPhone keyboard mimic the touch like a Droid? Any other comments, recommendations would be very welcome. It's a shame that this one (large) problem makes him dislike his neat new phone.
>
> Cathy
>
> Sent from my iPad
>

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1b.

Re: Droid-like iPhone keyboard?

Posted by: "Devitt" devittad@comcast.net   devittad

Sat Dec 31, 2011 4:34 am (PST)



Thanks, Alice and Brent. I guess this is one of those things he'll have to get used to or go back to his old phone. Swype doesn't sound like an improvement over the iPhone keyboard if it makes more misspellings. It took me awhile to get the hang of tapping the onscreen keyboard back when I got my first iPhone (3GS.) Now it seems normal. But I must admit, when I'm writing more than a sentence or so I use the Apple bluetooth keyboard with my iPad. (Like now.)

Cathy

Sent from my iPad

>I have a friend with an Android and tried the swype thing. Didn't like it. Quite a bit of the time when I get messages from my friend, I have to figure out what he's trying to say because swype misspells a lot. I know the iPhone has spelling problems too but it doesn't seem as many misspellings as with Android. The guy has been using Android for quite sometime now, so I'd think he has the swype thing down.
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On Dec 30, 2011, at 10:04 AM, Brent wrote:

>> Not sure why I send 3 replys. The android app is called Swype. On the
> iPhone it requires replacing the keyboard and that is what Apple will not
> allow.
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1c.

Re: Droid-like iPhone keyboard?

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:01 am (PST)



>> I have a friend with an Android and tried the swype thing. Didn't like it. Quite a bit of the time when I get messages from my friend, I have to figure out what he's trying to say because swype misspells a lot. I know the iPhone has spelling problems too but it doesn't seem as many misspellings as with Android. The guy has been using Android for quite sometime now, so I'd think he has the swype thing down.
>
> I guess this is one of those things he'll have to get used to or go back to his old phone. Swype doesn't sound like an improvement over the iPhone keyboard if it makes more misspellings. It took me awhile to get the hang of tapping the onscreen keyboard back when I got my first iPhone (3GS.) Now it seems normal. But I must admit, when I'm writing more than a sentence or so I use the Apple bluetooth keyboard with my iPad. (Like now.)

Anyone can type quickly, if they don't care what their output looks like.

If one is actually trying to communicate, then intelligibility, coherence, and correct spelling are relevant.

If either the person's thought processes or their typing method or their hardware interfere with those factors, that is a BAD thing. If they support those factors, it is a good thing.

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1d.

Re: Droid-like iPhone keyboard?

Posted by: "Alice Saunders" whiterabbit32@gmail.com   lwr0032

Sat Dec 31, 2011 12:40 pm (PST)



I use a an aluminum blue tooth keyboard made for the iPad 2 (http://www.amazon.com/Apple-Aluminum-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Exterior/dp/B005ISNC86/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1325363678&sr=8-5) I really wanted the ZaggMate keyboard but not for $99. The link goes to one that looks like the ZaggMate but generic. It works quite well for long emails and such. The iPad is a great piece of computer to have. I use it quite a bit. It's the perfect size for most things. I find it too big for texting unless I'm using a keyboard. I find I have my iPhone with me all the time and text from it mostly. I use my index finger and tape each letter. I've gotten pretty fast at texting that way. My brother still thumb texts on his iPhone. I tried that and the muscles in my thumbs started hurting pretty quickly. I'm sure that's because I'm not use to thumb typing.

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On Dec 31, 2011, at 4:30 AM, Devitt wrote:

> Thanks, Alice and Brent. I guess this is one of those things he'll have to get used to or go back to his old phone. Swype doesn't sound like an improvement over the iPhone keyboard if it makes more misspellings. It took me awhile to get the hang of tapping the onscreen keyboard back when I got my first iPhone (3GS.) Now it seems normal. But I must admit, when I'm writing more than a sentence or so I use the Apple bluetooth keyboard with my iPad. (Like now.)
>
> Cathy
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> >I have a friend with an Android and tried the swype thing. Didn't like it. Quite a bit of the time when I get messages from my friend, I have to figure out what he's trying to say because swype misspells a lot. I know the iPhone has spelling problems too but it doesn't seem as many misspellings as with Android. The guy has been using Android for quite sometime now, so I'd think he has the swype thing down.
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> On Dec 30, 2011, at 10:04 AM, Brent wrote:
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> >> Not sure why I send 3 replys. The android app is called Swype. On the
> > iPhone it requires replacing the keyboard and that is what Apple will not
> > allow.
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2a.

Fwd: [apple-iphone] Anyone using OverDrive with iOS5?

Posted by: "Misha Schutt" mishajouy@me.com   mishajouy

Sat Dec 31, 2011 4:08 am (PST)



Someone asked another question about library eBooks.

> I'll keep all this in mind. Every vendor has its own issues, and libraries usually go with the easiest, or the cheapest (which may be quite different!)
>
> I'm a libearian (spelling intentional--see * below). In January-February I'll be taking an online course (my first online class, yay) on "The Wild and Woolly World of eBooks in Libraries." The first session deals with file formats. I hope to report at least some of what I learn to this list. As a two-year, not entirely satisfied, user of the iPhone Kindle app, l plan to pay close attention.

So, more to come. Hey, look up and watch the moon meet Jupiter the next couple of nights. Venus conjunction to come in March. Celestial clockwork--see Starwalk app for details.

*Libearian: a librarian who also happens to be a bear (gay man, generally chubby, with lots of body hair). The Web~Google is not yet alert to this term. Nevertheless, we're good. Stay tuned, as they (used to?) say.
>
> Misha

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2b.

Re: Anyone using OverDrive with iOS5?

Posted by: "Alice Saunders" whiterabbit32@gmail.com   lwr0032

Sat Dec 31, 2011 12:45 pm (PST)



Have you tried iBook? I like it. I have the Kindle app also since some of the books I have aren't yet in iBook.

One thing about eBooks I don't like, is all the file formats. Everyone has reasons for why they've chosen the format they use and why other formats are not as good. Choice is a big deal to a lot of us. I'm just wondering why there can't be a universal format for eBooks that can be read by all or most of the eBook readers out there.

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On Dec 31, 2011, at 12:28 AM, Misha Schutt wrote:

> Someone asked another question about library eBooks.
>
> > I'll keep all this in mind. Every vendor has its own issues, and libraries usually go with the easiest, or the cheapest (which may be quite different!)
> >
> > I'm a libearian (spelling intentional--see * below). In January-February I'll be taking an online course (my first online class, yay) on "The Wild and Woolly World of eBooks in Libraries." The first session deals with file formats. I hope to report at least some of what I learn to this list. As a two-year, not entirely satisfied, user of the iPhone Kindle app, l plan to pay close attention.
>
> So, more to come. Hey, look up and watch the moon meet Jupiter the next couple of nights. Venus conjunction to come in March. Celestial clockwork--see Starwalk app for details.
>
> *Libearian: a librarian who also happens to be a bear (gay man, generally chubby, with lots of body hair). The Web~Google is not yet alert to this term. Nevertheless, we're good. Stay tuned, as they (used to?) say.
> >
> > Misha
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3.1.

iOS 5

Posted by: "Morgan Mandel" morgan@morganmandel.com   morganmandel

Sat Dec 31, 2011 4:49 am (PST)



I'm still afraid to upgrade my iPhone 4 to iOS 5.
Are the problems over with it? I don't want to lose anything. All I heard were bad reports before.

3.2.

Re: iOS 5

Posted by: "David Morganstein" drm0223@mac.com   drm0223

Sat Dec 31, 2011 6:34 am (PST)



No problems here, Morgan. I upgraded 2 iphone4s and an iPad. Everyone I know upgraded w/o a hitch.

> I'm still afraid to upgrade my iPhone 4 to iOS 5.
> Are the problems over with it? I don't want to lose anything. All I heard were bad reports before.

3.3.

Re: iOS 5

Posted by: "Golden One 7" gryone77@yahoo.com   gryone77

Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:00 am (PST)



Just back up and ensure you have selected everything that you want. It is pretty simple and seamless. I was fearful of upgrading to.

On Dec 31, 2011, at 9:33 AM, David Morganstein <drm0223@mac.com> wrote:

> No problems here, Morgan. I upgraded 2 iphone4s and an iPad. Everyone I know upgraded w/o a hitch.
>
> > I'm still afraid to upgrade my iPhone 4 to iOS 5.
> > Are the problems over with it? I don't want to lose anything. All I heard were bad reports before.
>

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3.4.

Re: iOS 5

Posted by: "Paul Deyo" paul.deyo@gmail.com   crewcheef

Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:08 am (PST)



I also upgraded an iphone 4 and an iPad 2 with no problems. Some of the moaning and groaning were those that jumped on the upgrade 30 seconds after it became available and overloaded Apples servers or network.

--
Paul

On Saturday, December 31, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Golden One 7 wrote:

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> Just back up and ensure you have selected everything that you want. It is pretty simple and seamless. I was fearful of upgrading to.
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> On Dec 31, 2011, at 9:33 AM, David Morganstein <drm0223@mac.com (mailto:drm0223%40mac.com)> wrote:
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> > No problems here, Morgan. I upgraded 2 iphone4s and an iPad. Everyone I know upgraded w/o a hitch.
> >
> > > I'm still afraid to upgrade my iPhone 4 to iOS 5.
> > > Are the problems over with it? I don't want to lose anything. All I heard were bad reports before.
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3.5.

Re: iOS 5

Posted by: "Vincent Uriah, Jr." clearvu@yahoo.com   clearvu

Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:31 am (PST)



My wife has an iPhone 4 and running iOS5 beautifully.

Sent from Vincent's iPhone 4s

On Dec 31, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Paul Deyo <paul.deyo@gmail.com> wrote:

> I also upgraded an iphone 4 and an iPad 2 with no problems. Some of the moaning and groaning were those that jumped on the upgrade 30 seconds after it became available and overloaded Apples servers or network.
>
> --
> Paul
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> On Saturday, December 31, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Golden One 7 wrote:
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> > Just back up and ensure you have selected everything that you want. It is pretty simple and seamless. I was fearful of upgrading to.
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> > On Dec 31, 2011, at 9:33 AM, David Morganstein <drm0223@mac.com (mailto:drm0223%40mac.com)> wrote:
> >
> > > No problems here, Morgan. I upgraded 2 iphone4s and an iPad. Everyone I know upgraded w/o a hitch.
> > >
> > > > I'm still afraid to upgrade my iPhone 4 to iOS 5.
> > > > Are the problems over with it? I don't want to lose anything. All I heard were bad reports before.

3.6.

Re: iOS 5

Posted by: "Alice Saunders" whiterabbit32@gmail.com   lwr0032

Sat Dec 31, 2011 12:22 pm (PST)



I haven't had any problems upgrading to iOS 5 on my iPhone 4. I was a beta tester for it, so couldn't wait to upgrade to the full version. As everyone already said, backup before you upgrade just in case you have problems. I doubt you'l have trouble upgrading. In fact, I think you'll like it better than what you're using now. The notifications are unobtrusive now. That's one of the best things about upgrading. No more having your apps stop when a message comes in.

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On Dec 31, 2011, at 9:30 AM, Vincent Uriah, Jr. wrote:

> My wife has an iPhone 4 and running iOS5 beautifully.
>
> Sent from Vincent's iPhone 4s
>
> On Dec 31, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Paul Deyo <paul.deyo@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > I also upgraded an iphone 4 and an iPad 2 with no problems. Some of the moaning and groaning were those that jumped on the upgrade 30 seconds after it became available and overloaded Apples servers or network.
> >
> > --
> > Paul
> >
> > On Saturday, December 31, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Golden One 7 wrote:
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> > > Just back up and ensure you have selected everything that you want. It is pretty simple and seamless. I was fearful of upgrading to.
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> > > On Dec 31, 2011, at 9:33 AM, David Morganstein <drm0223@mac.com (mailto:drm0223%40mac.com)> wrote:
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> > > > No problems here, Morgan. I upgraded 2 iphone4s and an iPad. Everyone I know upgraded w/o a hitch.
> > > >
> > > > > I'm still afraid to upgrade my iPhone 4 to iOS 5.
> > > > > Are the problems over with it? I don't want to lose anything. All I heard were bad reports before.
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4a.

Re: Anyone using OverDrive with iOS5?

Posted by: "Carol Corley" floridabouvs@gmail.com   floridabouvs

Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:14 am (PST)



I have used it a lot. I download to my kindle app on my iPad.
Carol

Sent from my iPad

4b.

Re: Anyone using OverDrive with iOS5?

Posted by: "Alice Saunders" whiterabbit32@gmail.com   lwr0032

Sat Dec 31, 2011 12:32 pm (PST)



So it lets you check what books are available in libraries? or does it tell you what places, like Kindle or iBook the books are available from?

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On Dec 31, 2011, at 8:35 AM, Carol Corley wrote:

> I have used it a lot. I download to my kindle app on my iPad.
> Carol
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> Sent from my iPad
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4c.

Re: Anyone using OverDrive with iOS5?

Posted by: "Woody" waterk9@gmail.com   rainiedaze139

Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:46 pm (PST)



It is a program/app that allows you to download audiobooks, music,
ebooks, that you checkout from your library. You have to have a library
card, you use your library's online site to find the books and request
them. At My library the most popular books (audio or ebook) have a
waiting list just like for the popular paper version. When it's your
turn they send an email saying it's available for you to download.
Usually have a day or 3 to get it. You login to the library site, go
through the checkout process and then OverDrive is the way it gets
downloaded.

I use OverDrive on the PC and download to it. Then I can transfer, again
using OverDrive, the audio/ebook to a Zune, iPod, Phone or iPad. Can
also listen or read on the PC. When your checkout time is up from the
library, OverDrive on my PC will no longer play or transfer the file.

Lots of info on how to use OverDrive on your library site.

On 12/31/2011 12:32 PM, Alice wrote:
> So it lets you check what books are available in libraries? or does it tell you what places, like Kindle or iBook the books are available from?

4d.

Re: Anyone using OverDrive with iOS5?

Posted by: "Alice Saunders" whiterabbit32@gmail.com   lwr0032

Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:53 pm (PST)



Sounds like a great program for those who want to borrow books instead of buy them. Problem for me is that there are times when I have lots of time to read and other times when I don't have much or any time to read. Therefore, I buy ebooks. I like owning my music. For me, it's better than paying a subscription fee to rent music. I know kids today listen to what their friends are listening to and when they get tired of it, they like getting rid of it. I'm one of the old people that doesn't tire of listening to tunes over again. I have a large iTunes library and sometimes I'll just go through the list and say "WOW! I forgot I had that. What a great piece."
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On Dec 31, 2011, at 1:43 PM, Woody wrote:

> It is a program/app that allows you to download audiobooks, music,
> ebooks, that you checkout from your library. You have to have a library
> card, you use your library's online site to find the books and request
> them. At My library the most popular books (audio or ebook) have a
> waiting list just like for the popular paper version. When it's your
> turn they send an email saying it's available for you to download.
> Usually have a day or 3 to get it. You login to the library site, go
> through the checkout process and then OverDrive is the way it gets
> downloaded.
>
> I use OverDrive on the PC and download to it. Then I can transfer, again
> using OverDrive, the audio/ebook to a Zune, iPod, Phone or iPad. Can
> also listen or read on the PC. When your checkout time is up from the
> library, OverDrive on my PC will no longer play or transfer the file.
>
> Lots of info on how to use OverDrive on your library site.
>
> On 12/31/2011 12:32 PM, Alice wrote:
> > So it lets you check what books are available in libraries? or does it tell you what places, like Kindle or iBook the books are available from?
>

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4e.

Re: Anyone using OverDrive with iOS5?

Posted by: "Misha Schutt" mishajouy@me.com   mishajouy

Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:59 pm (PST)



It may be difficult to find out what ebooks are available at which libraries, short of going to each library's online catalog.

There is a central site, WorldCat.org, where you can search books, DVDs and other physical media to see where they're available. But WorldCat depends on each library to update and delete its holdings--this is pretty much automatic as part of the cataloging process for most libraries, but many (like us) don't carefully delete holdings from WorldCat as we discard titles--so you really always have to check the online catalogs of individual libraries.

Ebooks are more complicated, since they're acquired in big batches so they come and go at a moment's notice. I suspect most libraries won't be updating WorldCat for ebook holdings (especially now that budgets are being slashed).

And of course, library ebooks are only as available as physical copies would be--once a copy is "checked out", i.e. downloaded to a patron's device, it's not available to others until that patron finishes and relinquishes it or his time (2-3 weeks) runs out. We at Burbank normally buy 3-5 copies of hot titles (serving a city of 100,000). Books like Harry Potter or the Twilight series are exceptional, and even there we rely on gift copies to keep up our supply as worn-out copies are discarded. I doubt anybody will (or even could) give us their old unused ebooks. I have a couple dozen Kindle books on my iPhone that I'll never look at again.

A few publishers even treat an ebook as "worn out" after 25 uses and withdraw it, making the library buy another "copy". Yet some of our books have circulated 40 times or more and are still usable, while others may have to be retired after a dozen circs.

It's a whole new world. I'll pass on more info as I learn it in the online course on ebooks in libraries that I'm taking in January.

Misha
Lead Cataloger
Burbank (Calif.) Public Library
www.burbanklibrary.com
Posting here as a private citizen, not a representative of BPL!

On Dec 31, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Alice Saunders <whiterabbit32@gmail.com> wrote:

> So it lets you check what books are available in libraries? or does it tell you what places, like Kindle or iBook the books are available from?
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5a.

Cleaning switches.

Posted by: "salmo97219" salmo@teleport.com   salmo97219

Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:37 am (PST)



The switches (power,volume, home,mute) on my well used 3g have become less responsive and intermittent. Has anybody made an attempt to clean them? The "genius" at the Apple store could only suggest a soft brush. Has anybody tried spray on contact cleaner or similar?

Jeff

5b.

Re: Cleaning switches.

Posted by: "Clarke Jesse" lvjesse@yahoo.com   lvjesse

Sat Dec 31, 2011 10:15 am (PST)



Using a cleaning spray could prove to be disastrous. Try canned air.

Jesse

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5c.

Re: Cleaning switches.

Posted by: "Moe Rubenzahl" moe6g@rubenzahl.com   MRubenzahl

Sat Dec 31, 2011 11:12 am (PST)



Safest route is to take it apart and clean up the insides, working
carefully with brushes, swabs, and clean cloths using a freon-based
contact cleaner, mild screen cleaner or just small amounts of water.
Alcohol used to be the go-to cleaner but some modern materials are
affected by it.

Take apart tools and kits are easily available on-line from the likes
of dealextreme, ebay, monoprice.

If you're willing to risk the device, you can spray contact cleaner
from the outside, work the cont6rols, and swab it all away as it runs
out. I am pretty sure that will not damage anything.
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Subject: [apple-iphone] Cleaning switches.
Author: salmo97219
Date: 12/31/11 5:35 PM +0000

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>The switches (power,volume, home,mute) on my well used 3g have
>become less responsive and intermittent. Has anybody made an attempt
>to clean them? The "genius" at the Apple store could only suggest a
>soft brush. Has anybody tried spray on contact cleaner or similar?
>
>Jeff
>
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6.

My emalis are not going through in this group

Posted by: "Rodrigo" yid_grps@yahoo.com.br   yid_grps

Sat Dec 31, 2011 12:56 pm (PST)



Hello

Has anyone else experienced that?

Rod

7a.

Re: Answering calls

Posted by: "Alice Saunders" whiterabbit32@gmail.com   lwr0032

Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:13 pm (PST)



I didn't know tapping the power button would do anything to a phone call when the iPhone is sleeping. What a neat feature. Thanks.
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On Dec 30, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Brent wrote:

> If the iPhone is awake, it will say answer or decline. If it is asleep, it
> will say slide to answer. If you do not wish to answer, tap the power
> button once to stop the ringing and a second time to send the call directly
> to voice mail.
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> On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 7:06 PM, David Andreozzi <gabrielfan72@yahoo.com>wrote:
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>> Usually my iPhone 4 gives me the option of accepting or declining an
>> incoming call, but sometimes the only thing I see is a slider on the bottom
>> that says slide to answer or something to that effect. Why would it do this
>> occasionally and is there a way to prevent it from doing it ?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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8a.

Re: Actual slide out keyboard/case for iPhone

Posted by: "Alice Saunders" whiterabbit32@gmail.com   lwr0032

Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:22 pm (PST)



Very nice.
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On Dec 30, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Clarke Jesse wrote:

> The genius at Apple store showed me this accessory for iPhone as I don't like the extremely sensitive touch keypad on the iPhone 4s. Love the phone though.
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> http://www.boxwave.com/iphone-4-cases-and-covers/keyboard-buddy-iphone-4-case/bwpdd/pkz-twvc/
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> Jesse,
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9a.

Android Blanket Statement

Posted by: "Alice Saunders" whiterabbit32@gmail.com   lwr0032

Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:45 pm (PST)



Leo Laporte, who says he's had every Android phone that's ever come out, said today on The Tech Guy, that if you bought your Android last year you may never be able to get the current version of the operating system. Is that true? Of course we all know that the Nexus Androids are able to be upgraded much more than the rest but can one make the blanket statement Leo did?

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Re: Android Blanket Statement

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:16 pm (PST)



> Leo Laporte, who says he's had every Android phone that's ever come out, said today on The Tech Guy, that if you bought your Android last year you may never be able to get the current version of the operating system. Is that true? Of course we all know that the Nexus Androids are able to be upgraded much more than the rest but can one make the blanket statement Leo did?

One inherent problem with an open operating system is that each hardware maker can (and usually does) tweak it to work in some "improved" fashion on *their* hardware.

It is then incumbent on the hardware maker to incorporate Google's Android upgrades into their version of the OS so as to propagate the system upgrade to their machines.

Do they?
Often not, and more often not so well.

Apple and iOS is a "closed ecology". Newest iOS upgrades may not be applicable to the oldest hardware, but, to take an example, iOS 5.0.1 works seamlessly well on the 4S, the 4, AND on the 3GS.

Of course, older hardware may not be able to take advantage of ALL the improvements in the iOS upgrade, but the ones that apply to the old hardware work, as noted, seamlessly.

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