12/29/2011

[macsupport] Digest Number 8648

Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)

1a.
Re: Used iMac From: Tod Hopkins
1b.
Re: Used iMac From: OBrien
1c.
Cleaning up iPhoto files From: N2hotmusic
1d.
Re: Used iMac From: Keith Whaley
1e.
Re: Cleaning up iPhoto files From: Dane Robison
1f.
Re: Used iMac From: Tim O'Donoghue
1g.
Re: Used iMac From: Keith Whaley
1h.
Re: Used iMac From: Harry Flaxman
2a.
Moving images from events to individual folders From: janfloodstudios
2b.
Re: Moving images from events to individual folders From: Forrest Leedy
2c.
Re: Moving images from events to individual folders From: Jan Flood
2d.
Re: Moving images from events to individual folders From: Jan Flood
2e.
Re: Moving images from events to individual folders From: Forrest Leedy
2f.
Re: Moving images from events to individual folders From: Jan Flood
3a.
Re: Learn about reading your Firewall log From: hester
4a.
Where did my files go? From: Dane Robison
4b.
Re: Where did my files go? From: Jan Flood
4c.
Re: Where did my files go? From: Michael P. Stupinski
4d.
Re: Where did my files go? From: Dane Robison
4e.
Re: Where did my files go? From: John Engberg
4f.
Re: Where did my files go? From: Michael P. Stupinski
5.
Corrupted App? From: Donna Ells
6a.
Re: Testing websites for IE on Mac From: Otto Nikolaus
7a.
Hate Meeces to Pieces! From: Ian Gillis
7b.
Re: Hate Meeces to Pieces! From: Harry Flaxman

Messages

1a.

Re: Used iMac

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:04 am (PST)



Great price for a functioning Intel-based mac. Grab it.

Cheers,
tod

On Dec 28, 2011, at 12:20 PM, Elaine Pollard wrote:

> My daughter is a college student, but really is not very tech savvy, so she
> will just be using Office. The display is 20" and the hd is 160 gb. The OS
> is Mac OSX 10.5.8, I believe.
>
> I will check out the link--thanks so much!
>
> On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Larson <pix@maksimo.de> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 28.12.2011, at 17:03, John Ross wrote:
>>
>>> Elaine,
>>>
>>> The price sounds good, but be aware that it won≠t run Lion (SL at best)
>>
>> She does probably not need Lion or Snow Leopard to do just her homework
>> and surf the Internet.
>>
>>>> It would be used so
>>>> that my daughter can do homework and surf the Internet.
>>
>> Elaine, you did not say how old your daughter is and what kind of software
>> she will be using. That may be an equally important question.
>>
>> Regarding the price try this site ...
>>
>> http://www.mac2sell.net/
>>
>>
>> You forgot to mention the display and the hard disk size, both very
>> important for the price calculation.
>>
>> What OS version does the computer have?
>>
>>
>>>> Although I used to
>>>> be pretty Mac proficient, I haven't used one in about 15 or more years.
>>
>> Then you will not recognize the OS anymore, OS X is a completely new, very
>> complex operating system and you have to learn most things again from
>> scratch.
>>
>>>> However, I have had so many PC problems that I am fed up.
>>
>> What problems have you had?
>>
>>
>> Anna
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------
>>>> These are the
>>>> specs of the machine I'm looking at:
>>>>
>>>> Model Name: iMac
>>>> Model Identifier: iMac4,1
>>>> Processor Name: Intel Core Duo
>>>> Processor Speed: 1.83 GHz
>>>> Number Of Processors: 1
>>>> Total Number Of Cores: 2
>>>> L2 Cache: 2 MB
>>>> Memory: 1 GB
>>>> Bus Speed: 667 MHz
>>>>
>>>> I think the guy is selling it for about $100
>>
>>
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1b.

Re: Used iMac

Posted by: "OBrien" bco@hiwaay.net   conorboru

Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:01 am (PST)



On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 17:30:42 -0800, N.A. Nada wrote:
> If it includes a keyboard, mouse and an appropriate OS disc, then
> it is a great deal.

Yes.


. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

O'Brien ––– –... .-. .. . -.
1c.

Cleaning up iPhoto files

Posted by: "N2hotmusic" n2hotmusic@earthlink.net   vemeyermn

Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:54 am (PST)



Sometime ago I tried to back up my extensive iPhoto library. I now have copies of photos in different places on my system...Mac G5 hard drive and external LaCie drive. I'm using iPhoto 9.

Is there a way to identify and remove the duplicates? I'd like to work on them in iPhoto but I can't enlarge the dupes. I know the links to the photos are broken, but I don't know how to fix them or if it's even possible.

Thanks.

Vonii

Sent from my iPhone 4
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1d.

Re: Used iMac

Posted by: "Keith Whaley" keith_w@dslextreme.com   keith9600

Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:11 am (PST)



N.A. Nada wrote:
> The original OS 1.4.4 and the last OS it can use is 10.6.8.

Two questions:

Did you mis-type the 'original OS' version numbers?

Two, what is it about this iMac that limits it to a maximum OS version
of 10.6.8?
He would have dual core on an Intel chip. I thought that was sufficient
for Lion. Something I'm missing here.

> If it is in good working condition, it is a good price. If it includes a
> keyboard, mouse and an appropriate OS disc, then it is a great deal.

keith

1e.

Re: Cleaning up iPhoto files

Posted by: "Dane Robison" macdane@mac.com   macdane1

Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:15 am (PST)



Why oh why does Apple insist on iPhoto managing files in such an
obtuse way? It seems to cause trouble for everyone who uses the app at
one time or another, and just doesn't need to be this way! Sheesh.

On Dec 29, 2011, at 11:54 AM, N2hotmusic <n2hotmusic@earthlink.net>
wrote:

> Is there a way to identify and remove the duplicates? I'd like to
> work on them in iPhoto but I can't enlarge the dupes. I know the
> links to the photos are broken, but I don't know how to fix them or
> if it's even possible.

1f.

Re: Used iMac

Posted by: "Tim O'Donoghue" tjod@drizzle.net   timodonoghue

Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:47 am (PST)



Lion requires Core *2* Duo - the listed machines is Core Duo.

MacTracker [ http://mactracker.ca/ ]is a good way to check on info abut specific Mac models.

On Dec 29, 2011, at 9:11 AM, Keith Whaley wrote:

> N.A. Nada wrote:
>> The original OS 1.4.4 and the last OS it can use is 10.6.8.
>
> Two questions:
>
> Did you mis-type the 'original OS' version numbers?
>
> Two, what is it about this iMac that limits it to a maximum OS version
> of 10.6.8?
> He would have dual core on an Intel chip. I thought that was sufficient
> for Lion. Something I'm missing here.
>
>> If it is in good working condition, it is a good price. If it includes a
>> keyboard, mouse and an appropriate OS disc, then it is a great deal.
>
>
> keith
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1g.

Re: Used iMac

Posted by: "Keith Whaley" keith_w@dslextreme.com   keith9600

Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:21 am (PST)



Tim O'Donoghue wrote:
> Lion requires Core *2* Duo - the listed machines is Core Duo.
>

Thanks, Tim.

keith

1h.

Re: Used iMac

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:38 pm (PST)



On 12/29/2011 12:11 PM, Keith Whaley wrote:
> Two, what is it about this iMac that limits it to a maximum OS version
> of 10.6.8?
> He would have dual core on an Intel chip. I thought that was sufficient
> for Lion. Something I'm missing here.

Core Duo processors are not compatible with Lion. They are 32 bit
processors.

Harry

2a.

Moving images from events to individual folders

Posted by: "janfloodstudios" jan.flood2@att.net   janfloodstudios

Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:25 am (PST)



Hi new member, fairly new mac user. Have 3000 photos stored randomly in events and places. Would like to sort them into individual files. With WIN I can drag and drop to a new folder and it moves the image. In iphoto, I can drag and drop but it leaves a copy in the event file too so I've not accomplished anything towards cleaning it up. Is there some way to do this without having to -move to trash - every image one at a time?

Thanks, Jan

2b.

Re: Moving images from events to individual folders

Posted by: "Forrest Leedy" f.leedy@comcast.net   forrkazu

Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:37 am (PST)



Hold the �command� button down as you drag the picture, folder, etc. to the new location then let it go. By doing this it will relocate the file and not duplicate it.

Forrest

On Dec 29, 2011, at 8:25 AM, janfloodstudios wrote:

> Hi new member, fairly new mac user. Have 3000 photos stored randomly in events and places. Would like to sort them into individual files. With WIN I can drag and drop to a new folder and it moves the image. In iphoto, I can drag and drop but it leaves a copy in the event file too so I've not accomplished anything towards cleaning it up. Is there some way to do this without having to -move to trash - every image one at a time?
>
> Thanks, Jan
>

2c.

Re: Moving images from events to individual folders

Posted by: "Jan Flood" jan.flood2@att.net   janfloodstudios

Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:51 am (PST)



Thank you forrest but I'm still not getting it right. The photo moves to the new folder but stays in my events folder too unless I manually move it to the trash. I can't figure this out. I must be doing something in the wrong order?

On Dec 29, 2011, at 7:37 AM, Forrest Leedy wrote:

Hold the �command� button down as you drag the picture, folder, etc. to the new location then let it go. By doing this it will relocate the file and not duplicate it.

Forrest

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2d.

Re: Moving images from events to individual folders

Posted by: "Jan Flood" jan.flood2@att.net   janfloodstudios

Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:01 am (PST)



I'm working on a one year old macbook pro, OS X if that makes a difference.

On Dec 29, 2011, at 7:51 AM, Jan Flood wrote:

Thank you forrest but I'm still not getting it right. The photo moves to the new folder but stays in my events folder too unless I manually move it to the trash. I can't figure this out. I must be doing something in the wrong order?

On Dec 29, 2011, at 7:37 AM, Forrest Leedy wrote:

Hold the �command� button down as you drag the picture, folder, etc. to the new location then let it go. By doing this it will relocate the file and not duplicate it.

Forrest

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2e.

Re: Moving images from events to individual folders

Posted by: "Forrest Leedy" f.leedy@comcast.net   forrkazu

Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:14 am (PST)




On Dec 29, 2011, at 9:01 AM, Jan Flood wrote:

> I'm working on a one year old macbook pro, OS X if that makes a difference.
>
> On Dec 29, 2011, at 7:51 AM, Jan Flood wrote:
>
> Thank you forrest but I'm still not getting it right. The photo moves to the new folder but stays in my events folder too unless I manually move it to the trash. I can't figure this out. I must be doing something in the wrong order?
>
> On Dec 29, 2011, at 7:37 AM, Forrest Leedy wrote:
>
> Hold the ≥command≈ button down as you drag the picture, folder, etc. to the new location then let it go. By doing this it will relocate the file and not duplicate it.
>
> Forrest

Maybe I am not understanding exactly what you are doing. Usually if you move something within the HD you are using it will actually move that object to where you want it. However, if you are moving the same object from one HD to another outside HD, what I told you will work. I just thought of something, are you doing this within a program and if so, what program?

Forrest

2f.

Re: Moving images from events to individual folders

Posted by: "Jan Flood" jan.flood2@att.net   janfloodstudios

Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:19 pm (PST)



No, I'm just using the iphoto. I want to clean up the events and places by moving most of the images into individual folders/albums. I can move a copy of the image with no problem but a copy always stays in the mail file. I've tried so many times now I've got several copies of images in several places, LOL. Kept thinking maybe if I made a new folder and started over......

ie, in iphoto, I have many images taken on a trip to Graceland this summer, and many more from a trip to New Orleans. All in the events file. I love them but don't want to have to scroll through them every time I want an image. I've made albums called Graceland and NO and tried to move the image from the events to the folder -- but as I say, it only puts a copy in the album and leaves the original in events. I know I'm repeating myself but not sure how to say it otherwise.

If I add a new event, in the event file, I can Merge images but that isn't quite what I wanted to do.

On Dec 29, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Forrest Leedy wrote:

I just thought of something, are you doing this within a program and if so, what program?

Jan Flood

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3a.

Re: Learn about reading your Firewall log

Posted by: "hester" dhreik@gmail.com   drhester_06107

Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:16 am (PST)



Really helpful information. THanks, Dan.

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Denver Dan <denver.dan@...> wrote:
>
> Howdy.
>
> Here's a brief article on how to read your Mac's Firewall log.
>
> If you have turned on your Mac's Firewall (a software firewall) in
> System Preferences > Security & Privacy >Firewall, your Mac will start
> keeping a log of various access events.
>
> You can read this log by using the Console application found in your
> Utilities folder. This article has some brief and basic info about
> doing this. It's a quick learning exercise to know more about
> Macintosh security.
>
> - - - - -
> Technolgist.com
>
> How to Monitor Your Mac's Firewall Logs
>
> <http://www.macinstruct.com/node/420>
> - - - - -
>
> Denver Dan
>

4a.

Where did my files go?

Posted by: "Dane Robison" macdane@mac.com   macdane1

Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:08 am (PST)



This is a weird problem...I'm not even sure how to construct a short
but meaningful subject line. 10.5.8 and here's the scenario:

1. Copied almost 5000 photos from a compact flash camera card to my
laptop, using Finder.
2. Did a bunch of other, unrelated work over the next several hours.
3. Hit command-z to undo something; whatever it was appears not to be
undoable, because I got a little progress window showing "Undoing Copy
of Almost 5000 Photos from Compact Flash Card"

I canceled the operation immediately, but am left with only 89 of the
nearly 5000 photos. The CF card is no longer in my possession and
there's nothing in the trash. Where did those files go?

Thanks,
Dane

4b.

Re: Where did my files go?

Posted by: "Jan Flood" jan.flood2@att.net   janfloodstudios

Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:45 pm (PST)



Maybe to the same place all the images on my iphone went when I tried to download them?

On Dec 29, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Dane Robison wrote:

Where did those files go?

Jan Flood

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4c.

Re: Where did my files go?

Posted by: "Michael P. Stupinski" mpstupinski@snet.net   mstupinski

Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:54 pm (PST)



Dane,

I'm going to guess here, and maybe a better answer will be provided by
someone. I don't know what process you kicked off to provide that
progress window, but I suspect that you simply did a bulk deletion of
the pictures from your HD. The files didn't go anywhere. They should
still be on your HD, just as with any deletion of files, until you
write over (with new files) the space where the files resided. Use a
file recovery program as soon as possible to get back as many files as
possible. Do little else (ideally nothing else) before doing this, to
prevent more pictures from being overwritten. Look back in the list
archives for a fairly recent discussion of file recovery programs.

.............Mike

On Dec 29, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Dane Robison wrote:

> This is a weird problem...I'm not even sure how to construct a short
> but meaningful subject line. 10.5.8 and here's the scenario:
>
> 1. Copied almost 5000 photos from a compact flash camera card to my
> laptop, using Finder.
> 2. Did a bunch of other, unrelated work over the next several hours.
> 3. Hit command-z to undo something; whatever it was appears not to be
> undoable, because I got a little progress window showing "Undoing Copy
> of Almost 5000 Photos from Compact Flash Card"
>
> I canceled the operation immediately, but am left with only 89 of the
> nearly 5000 photos. The CF card is no longer in my possession and
> there's nothing in the trash. Where did those files go?
>
> Thanks,
> Dane
>
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4d.

Re: Where did my files go?

Posted by: "Dane Robison" macdane@mac.com   macdane1

Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:14 pm (PST)



Hi Mike,

I should've been more clear that this is more of a curiosity than
emergency. I can get the CF card back and copy the files again
tonight. What I did to provide the progress window was command-z
(undo). Apparently, the last "undoable" event in the Finder was the
copying of those files, so it "undid" the copy. It seems reasonable
that undoing a copy operation is equivalent to deleting, but when I
delete files they at least end up in the trash where I can access them
before emptying.

Off the top of my head, I can't think of a time when I've deleted
files from my startup drive and had them simply vanish, without a
layover in the trash. Can you?

Thanks,
Dane

On Dec 29, 2011, at 4:54 PM, Michael P. Stupinski wrote:

> Dane,
>
> I'm going to guess here, and maybe a better answer will be provided by
> someone. I don't know what process you kicked off to provide that
> progress window, but I suspect that you simply did a bulk deletion of
> the pictures from your HD. The files didn't go anywhere. They should
> still be on your HD, just as with any deletion of files, until you
> write over (with new files) the space where the files resided. Use a
> file recovery program as soon as possible to get back as many files as
> possible. Do little else (ideally nothing else) before doing this, to
> prevent more pictures from being overwritten. Look back in the list
> archives for a fairly recent discussion of file recovery programs.
>
> .............Mike
>
> On Dec 29, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Dane Robison wrote:
>
>> This is a weird problem...I'm not even sure how to construct a short
>> but meaningful subject line. 10.5.8 and here's the scenario:
>>
>> 1. Copied almost 5000 photos from a compact flash camera card to my
>> laptop, using Finder.
>> 2. Did a bunch of other, unrelated work over the next several hours.
>> 3. Hit command-z to undo something; whatever it was appears not to be
>> undoable, because I got a little progress window showing "Undoing
>> Copy
>> of Almost 5000 Photos from Compact Flash Card"
>>
>> I canceled the operation immediately, but am left with only 89 of the
>> nearly 5000 photos. The CF card is no longer in my possession and
>> there's nothing in the trash. Where did those files go?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dane

4e.

Re: Where did my files go?

Posted by: "John Engberg" mrbyte@earthlink.net   mrbyte

Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:16 pm (PST)



If you're very lucky, you might get them back with Data Rescue, but don't bet on it.

John Engberg

On Dec 29, 2011, at 4:54 PM, Michael P. Stupinski wrote:

> Dane,
>
> I'm going to guess here, and maybe a better answer will be provided by
> someone. I don't know what process you kicked off to provide that
> progress window, but I suspect that you simply did a bulk deletion of
> the pictures from your HD. The files didn't go anywhere. They should
> still be on your HD, just as with any deletion of files, until you
> write over (with new files) the space where the files resided. Use a
> file recovery program as soon as possible to get back as many files as
> possible. Do little else (ideally nothing else) before doing this, to
> prevent more pictures from being overwritten. Look back in the list
> archives for a fairly recent discussion of file recovery programs.
>
> .............Mike
>
> On Dec 29, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Dane Robison wrote:
>
>> This is a weird problem...I'm not even sure how to construct a short
>> but meaningful subject line. 10.5.8 and here's the scenario:
>>
>> 1. Copied almost 5000 photos from a compact flash camera card to my
>> laptop, using Finder.
>> 2. Did a bunch of other, unrelated work over the next several hours.
>> 3. Hit command-z to undo something; whatever it was appears not to be
>> undoable, because I got a little progress window showing "Undoing Copy
>> of Almost 5000 Photos from Compact Flash Card"
>>
>> I canceled the operation immediately, but am left with only 89 of the
>> nearly 5000 photos. The CF card is no longer in my possession and
>> there's nothing in the trash. Where did those files go?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dane
>>
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4f.

Re: Where did my files go?

Posted by: "Michael P. Stupinski" mpstupinski@snet.net   mstupinski

Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:44 pm (PST)



I've never used command-z that I can remember, but you're right, most
of the time stuff I delete ends up in the trash folder. I just
duplicated a folder on my desktop and then, while the duplicate was
still highlighted, I hit command-z and the file disappeared, but it
did not appear in the trash.

.....Mike

On Dec 29, 2011, at 5:14 PM, Dane Robison wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> I should've been more clear that this is more of a curiosity than
> emergency. I can get the CF card back and copy the files again
> tonight. What I did to provide the progress window was command-z
> (undo). Apparently, the last "undoable" event in the Finder was the
> copying of those files, so it "undid" the copy. It seems reasonable
> that undoing a copy operation is equivalent to deleting, but when I
> delete files they at least end up in the trash where I can access them
> before emptying.
>
> Off the top of my head, I can't think of a time when I've deleted
> files from my startup drive and had them simply vanish, without a
> layover in the trash. Can you?
>
> Thanks,
> Dane
>
> On Dec 29, 2011, at 4:54 PM, Michael P. Stupinski wrote:
>
>> Dane,
>>
>> I'm going to guess here, and maybe a better answer will be provided
>> by
>> someone. I don't know what process you kicked off to provide that
>> progress window, but I suspect that you simply did a bulk deletion of
>> the pictures from your HD. The files didn't go anywhere. They should
>> still be on your HD, just as with any deletion of files, until you
>> write over (with new files) the space where the files resided. Use a
>> file recovery program as soon as possible to get back as many files
>> as
>> possible. Do little else (ideally nothing else) before doing this,
>> to
>> prevent more pictures from being overwritten. Look back in the list
>> archives for a fairly recent discussion of file recovery programs.
>>
>> .............Mike
>>
>> On Dec 29, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Dane Robison wrote:
>>
>>> This is a weird problem...I'm not even sure how to construct a short
>>> but meaningful subject line. 10.5.8 and here's the scenario:
>>>
>>> 1. Copied almost 5000 photos from a compact flash camera card to my
>>> laptop, using Finder.
>>> 2. Did a bunch of other, unrelated work over the next several hours.
>>> 3. Hit command-z to undo something; whatever it was appears not to
>>> be
>>> undoable, because I got a little progress window showing "Undoing
>>> Copy
>>> of Almost 5000 Photos from Compact Flash Card"
>>>
>>> I canceled the operation immediately, but am left with only 89 of
>>> the
>>> nearly 5000 photos. The CF card is no longer in my possession and
>>> there's nothing in the trash. Where did those files go?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dane
>
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5.

Corrupted App?

Posted by: "Donna Ells" dellis70@tampabay.rr.com   dellis551

Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:32 am (PST)



I have 27" i5 iMac, 10.6.8, quad core. Yesterday Dec 28, we experienced a
power outage (not uncommon in this rural area). The iMacs are each on a
battery back up surge protector. I was running Eudora on my iMac (I know, I
knowŠ). We have road runner internet service. The cable was also out during
that time. Turns out an accident had taken place a few miles away, and all
the lines were severed.

Anyway, after powering back up yesterday afternoon, I clicked on the Eudora
icon in the normal fashion. It popped up as a brand new app on the 27" iMac
and required all the server info be put back in. All the prefs had to be
reestablished. The new iMac in the den (also 10.6.8, quad, i5) did not lose
its Eudora info. It powered up as normal.

I lost everything in Eudora on the 27" iMac. All the years of followups,
e-mail addresses, notes, filters, folders, etc ‹ everything was gone, as tho
the app was brand new and had never been used on this machine.

After briefly panicking, I remembered that I have my OWC Mercury Elite ­ AL
PRO external drive, which is a clone. Cloning is accomplished manually
whenever I want to do it. It had been cloned 3 days ago Christmas Night.
Since cloning, everything has been working as usual, and without incident
until the power failure. Aha! I can go into the clone and move the Eudora
info over to the home hard drive. But on the clone, the Eudora App came up
in the same fashion as it did on my iMac ­ brand new, and no info, filters,
folders, address book etc.

The AL PRO is Partitioned ­ 1tb for cloning and 1tb fore Time Machine
backups. TM is automatic every hour. When browsing the history in Time
Machine, the Eudora folder housed in DOCUMENTS disappeared on December 22,
2011, at 7:26AM. That is the last time it is present in TM. So Time Machine
has not been recognizing the Eudora folder since that date.

Can anyone guess what has happened? Do I need to be worried that my hard
drive is corrupted, or is it that Eudora somehow was no longer recognized by
TM because Eudora was corrupted? Since everything is gone (except what I can
find on Dec 22), I've decided to use a diff app which is not dependent on
Rosetta. But I'm more concerned about my hard drive. Any suggestions before
I run Permissions, etc?

Thanks for your help,
Donna

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6a.

Re: Testing websites for IE on Mac

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:38 am (PST)



Yes, IE has had a huge, bad influence on the WWW. MS tend to put
non-standard features in it, and it also deals with errors in its' own
ways. This means that it's difficult, or perhaps impossible, for most
websites to work perfectly with both IE and standards-compliant browsers.

For more kicks,
<http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/default.aspx> 181 errors, 139 warnings
<http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/internet-explorer/products/ie/home> 59
errors, 1 warning
;)
Otto

On 25 December 2011 14:36, Arjun Singhal <arjunsinghal@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Thanks Tod for your inputs there.
>
> Just for kicks, I ran a test on the favorite website of this group with
> the w3c validator.
>
> www.apple.com returns 3 errors and 1 warning
> www.apple.com/startpage returns 9 errors and 1 warning
>
> i also tried opening the startpage on internet explorer, with the latest
> version of Java installed, and the page loads with errors on IE 8 and IE 9.
>
> there are numerous ways of detecting what browser a user is accessing the
> site from, and you can possibly redirect the user to another site, but that
> would be an extreme step, because one would have to replicate every element
> and functionality, and it would also mean that your analytics will need to
> be captured in different places, and if your implementation isn't perfect,
> your users would be viewing different content, especially for
> make-on-the-fly pages.
>
> before i stepped into this industry, i had only read about developer's
> nightmares of making things compatible with IE, but now i know that IE is
> not pain in the neck for creativity, it is a twisted stranglehold that can
> kill the offspring of any web product.
>
> I remember my days using windows mobile, when we didn't have androids and
> iphones, and they were "ugly" as smart phones. Not that I have much regard
> for androids because they are confusing to buy, and in my opinion a cheap
> imitation as most users of the fanciest androids will say, "just like
> iPhone", i still include them in my expression here.
>
> its like defining confidence intervals and errors for statistical
> reasoning. and how much i hate those number games. hope i got my point
> across.
>
> appreciating again all other contributions to the thread. its made my
> experience of the group so lively.
>

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7a.

Hate Meeces to Pieces!

Posted by: "Ian Gillis" tessel.bas@gmail.com   ianjgillis

Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:01 pm (PST)



For once a nice, simple, mechanical problem - which I can't solve!

My Mighty Mouse's scroll ball keeps sticking - I've read the
instructions as below:

"http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3226?viewlocale=en_US

If the scroll ball on your Mighty Mouse has become discolored or
dirty, use a clean, lint-free cloth lightly moistened with water to
clean it. Wipe the ball and the surrounding area, making sure to
rotate the ball itself to ensure complete coverage. If the scrolling
feels rough or if the scroll ball isn't scrolling up, down, or
side-to-side, hold the Mighty Mouse upside down and roll the ball
vigorously while cleaning it to help dislodge any particles that may
have collected on the internal hardware. "

I've followed the instructions using optical wipes and drying off with
rolling the mouse upside-down on clean paper.

This procedure works - for a couple of days before it starts sticking
again. I feel sure that the problem is probably fine cat hair wrapped
around a spindle or similar - this has occurred here with "ordinary"
common (or "garden") Microsoft mice.

So how does one dismantle a Mighty Mouse - it's clearly a press fit,
but how to you un-press it to get the top off?

Please don't suggest disposing of the pussycats - it's cold outside
and they like their comfort. Should I junk the wired Mighty Mouse and
get a Magic Mouse?

regards,
Ian

7b.

Re: Hate Meeces to Pieces!

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:45 pm (PST)



On 12/29/2011 5:01 PM, Ian Gillis wrote:
> For once a nice, simple, mechanical problem - which I can't solve!
>
> My Mighty Mouse's scroll ball keeps sticking - I've read the
> instructions as below:

Yup, that was a well known issue with those. What I used to do, after
seeing an Apple genius do it, was to wet a cloth with window cleaner,
turn the mouse scroll ball side down and with the cloth on a flat
surface, roll the mouse around on the ball for however long it takes
I've had to sit there for close to 3 or 4 minutes doing this until it
worked again.

Oh yes, make sure you roll it around on a dry cloth before connecting it
again.

Harry

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