Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)
- 1a.
- Re: Defragment Or Not To Defragment? From: Harry Flaxman
- 2a.
- Re: search From: Keith Whaley
- 2b.
- Re: search From: Michael P. Stupinski
- 2c.
- Re: search From: Keith Whaley
- 2d.
- Re: search From: Keith Whaley
- 2e.
- Re: search From: Otto Nikolaus
- 2f.
- Re: search From: Otto Nikolaus
- 3a.
- Re: can't delete PNG From: Oneal Neumann
- 3b.
- Re: can't delete PNG From: Doug Yelmen
- 4a.
- Re: no input-audio output From: Oneal Neumann
- 5a.
- Airport and satellite iinternet From: us2forever
- 5b.
- Re: Airport and satellite iinternet From: Harry Flaxman
- 5c.
- Re: Airport and satellite iinternet From: Bob Cook
- 6a.
- Re: safe for the Lion ??? From: Oneal Neumann
- 6b.
- Re: safe for the Lion ??? From: Denver Dan
- 6c.
- Re: safe for the Lion ??? From: Oneal Neumann
- 6d.
- Re: safe for the Lion ??? From: Denver Dan
- 6e.
- Re: safe for the Lion ??? From: Harry Flaxman
- 6f.
- Re: safe for the Lion ??? From: Harry Flaxman
- 6g.
- Re: safe for the Lion ??? From: Denver Dan
- 6h.
- Re: safe for the Lion ??? From: Harry Flaxman
- 7.1.
- Re: iPhone From: Daly Jessup
- 8a.
- Message from another member From: joan05061
- 8b.
- Re: Message from another member From: Doug Yelmen
- 9.1.
- Re: Mac Virus From: imran khan
Messages
- 1a.
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Re: Defragment Or Not To Defragment?
Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net hflaxman001
Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:11 pm (PST)
On Dec 21, 2011, at 6:58 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:
>>> I stopped listening when it became clear, at about 1 minute, that he was talking only about a small subset of what drive defragmentation is about.
>>>
>>> For one thing, wasn't it you, Harry, who just recently showed us the hazard of free-space fragmentation, when you couldn't copy a 40 GB virtual drive onto a drive with 60 GB of free space?
>>>
>>> Because that space was fragmented?
>>>
>>> And what about "hotfile" optimization?
>>
>> That was not I, unless it was awhile back, so much so that I can't recall the situation at the time.
>
> Correct. I checked.
> Jim Robertson, Wed Nov 16, 2011, message #137203
>
>> I have been fiddling with the iDefrag demo and fragmentation. The demo allows you to 'measure' current fragmentation. I could find a negligible amount.
>
> I used iDefrag on my drive in November. Not surprisingly, file fragmentation is essentially 0; however, *free space* is in 21,781 fragments.
The one thing I DID notice was that the largest number reported for fragmentation was, indeed, free space. It was still a negligible amount, however, I can see it increasing over time, especially with the heavy load my work usually places on hard drives.
I do intend to purchase iDefrag as I do feel it's a necessary addition to my 'toolbox' of utilities. I may not have to use it often, but it will be necessary, IMO.
My intent on sharing the video was for the new user, who may not necessarily need to defragment for a long, long time. I never found it necessary, until recently.
Thanks Jim.
Harry
Harry Flaxman
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Re: search
Posted by: "Keith Whaley" keith_w@dslextreme.com keith9600
Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:12 pm (PST)
Mike Stupinski wrote:
> That's what I get when I search for "Calculator" in Spotlight. What I
> couldn't find, though, was the random number generator.
>
> .........Mike
It's a button, lower left, labeled "Rand."
keith
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Re: search
Posted by: "Michael P. Stupinski" mpstupinski@snet.net mstupinski
Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:55 pm (PST)
I believe that one is "Rad" for radians, Keith. Move to the right
three buttons.
......Mike
On Dec 21, 2011, at 7:12 PM, Keith Whaley wrote:
> Mike Stupinski wrote:
>> That's what I get when I search for "Calculator" in Spotlight. What I
>> couldn't find, though, was the random number generator.
>>
>> .........Mike
>
> It's a button, lower left, labeled "Rand."
>
>
> keith
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Re: search
Posted by: "Keith Whaley" keith_w@dslextreme.com keith9600
Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:02 am (PST)
Otto Nikolaus wrote:
> On 21 December 2011 20:18, Keith Whaley <keith_w@dslextreme.com
> <mailto:keith_w%40dslextreme. com>> wrote:
>
> >
> > I never knew that!
> >
> > After fooling with it for a while, I discovered if you open a Spotlight
> > window and type in "Calculator" it comes up with a very decent, very
> > capable calculator app. Nice indeed....
> >
> > I'm pleased with the random number generator! I'll never use it,
> > probably, but I like the idea of a single button function to generate
> > one.
> >
> > Thanks for turning me on to that.
> Isn't that the usual calculator app?
>
> Otto
"The usual"? I'd say no. I've never seen a calculator app like this one.
I would have remembered.
In fact, I'd much rather have the Spotlight calc app as one of my
Widgets, in place of the one the Widget folks offer...
keith
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Re: search
Posted by: "Keith Whaley" keith_w@dslextreme.com keith9600
Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:09 am (PST)
Michael P. Stupinski wrote:
> I believe that one is "Rad" for radians, Keith. Move to the right
> three buttons.
>
> ......Mike
>
> On Dec 21, 2011, at 7:12 PM, Keith Whaley wrote:
>
> > Mike Stupinski wrote:
> >> That's what I get when I search for "Calculator" in Spotlight. What I
> >> couldn't find, though, was the random number generator.
> >>
> >> .........Mike
Nossir. Not on the Spotlight calculator version I have.
Three buttons up above the "Rand" button is "Rad". That's the radians
button.
Pressing the "Rand" button does indeed give you a random number.
keith
> > It's a button, lower left, labeled "Rand."
> >
> >
> > keith
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Re: search
Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com nikyzf
Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:46 am (PST)
There is also an RPN mode!
Otto
On 21 December 2011 22:25, Michael P. Stupinski <mpstupinski@snet.net >wrote:
> Got it. Thanks. I also have mine in Scientific mode, but I guess my
> mind saw "RPN" when I looked at the "RN" button. :-|
>
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Re: search
Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com nikyzf
Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:48 am (PST)
On 22 December 2011 08:02, Keith Whaley <keith_w@dslextreme.com > wrote:
>
> "The usual"? I'd say no. I've never seen a calculator app like this one.
> I would have remembered.
> In fact, I'd much rather have the Spotlight calc app as one of my
> Widgets, in place of the one the Widget folks offer...
>
> Not the same as the one in Applications, which I use routinely?
Otto
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Re: can't delete PNG
Posted by: "Oneal Neumann" wardell.h.s@gmail.com newalander
Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:21 pm (PST)
On 2011 December 19 (at 21:37) Don wrote:
Just deleted 35 in-use files to an empty Trash. Tried Option key with empty Trash, didn't help. Sorry Doug. 'Secure Empty Trash' removed 54 files. Thanks Bill. Don at 21.9N 159.6W
Following a Safe Boot, I again tried the regular Empty button on the Trash folder and my previously unriddable file disappeared this time.
I had earlier tried the Doug-suggested method of holding down the Option key while clearing Trash, however that too did not then work for me.
Thanx. Oneal
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Re: can't delete PNG
Posted by: "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen@earthlink.net dougyelmen
Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:54 pm (PST)
no sweat, Oneal. i also recommended software like Trash It for such situations. also, i have often tried to delete something in the trash, and it wouldn't' delete,
but after restarting, it vanished.
several ways to accomplish the same thing.
glad Bill was able to help.
doug
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"Truthful words are not beautiful; beautiful words are not truthful. Good words are not persuasive; persuasive words are not good." ~ Lao Tzu
On Dec 21, 2011, at 10:15 AM, Oneal Neumann wrote:
>
> On 2011 December 19 (at 21:37) Don wrote:
>
> Just deleted 35 in-use files to an empty Trash. Tried Option key with empty Trash, didn't help. Sorry Doug. 'Secure Empty Trash‚ removed 54 files. Thanks Bill. Don at 21.9N 159.6W
>
>
>
> Following a Safe Boot, I again tried the regular Empty button on the Trash folder and my previously unriddable file disappeared this time.
>
> I had earlier tried the Doug-suggested method of holding down the Option key while clearing Trash, however that too did not then work for me.
>
> Thanx. Oneal
>
>
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Re: no input-audio output
Posted by: "Oneal Neumann" wardell.h.s@gmail.com newalander
Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:21 pm (PST)
On 2011 December 15 (at 16:00) John Engberg wrote:
> The only equipment you need, you probably have --a cassette player with an audio out or line out or headphone jack; plus an appropriate cable-- a mini RCA, for example. The software you need is something like Audio Hijack Pro. I use that and it works like a champ for me. There probably are numerous other software packages out there that will do the same job, but I quit looking when I found Audio Hijack Pro. John Engberg
Further to an earlier [cassette audio to USB ???] thread, I again tried inputting audio to my ProBook laptop's audio-in port. It still does not work.
Selecting System Preferences > Sound, then choosing Line In, the input-level bar moves regularly to the max position, indicating that audio has indeed entered my laptop.
I can not get the sound to my internal speakers, which have been activated to the max. Is there some other setting that I have somehow selected that has nullified my sound? I have no problems with Skype or internet audio or any other form of audio.
How do I get input audio to output on my laptop's speakers? Thanx. Oneal
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Airport and satellite iinternet
Posted by: "us2forever" us2forever@frontiernet.net rksangelkayann
Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:56 pm (PST)
I gave my iMac g4 to a friend.
iMac g4
Mac OS X 10.4.11
1.25 GHz PowerPC G
2 GB DDR SDRAM
I used airport with it. Will the airport still work even though he gets his internet by satellite?
Kay
MacBook Air
Mac OS X 10.7
1.8 GHz Intel Core i7
4GB 1333 Mhz DDR3
MacBook
Mac OS X 10.6.7
2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
3 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
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Re: Airport and satellite iinternet
Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net hflaxman001
Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:03 pm (PST)
On Dec 21, 2011, at 8:56 PM, us2forever wrote:
> I gave my iMac g4 to a friend.
>
> iMac g4
> Mac OS X 10.4.11
> 1.25 GHz PowerPC G
> 2 GB DDR SDRAM
>
> I used airport with it. Will the airport still work even though he gets his internet by satellite?
Airport Card?? If there is a wireless connection involved, then yes, it will work. Generally connect via a wireless router, such as the Airport Extreme.
Harry
Harry Flaxman
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Re: Airport and satellite iinternet
Posted by: "Bob Cook" cookrd1@discoveryowners.com cookrd1
Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:03 pm (PST)
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 7:56 PM, us2forever <us2forever@frontiernet.net >wrote:
> **
>
>
> I gave my iMac g4 to a friend.
>
> iMac g4
> Mac OS X 10.4.11
> 1.25 GHz PowerPC G
> 2 GB DDR SDRAM
>
> I used airport with it. Will the airport still work even though he gets
> his internet by satellite?
>
> Airport will work, but he made need to change his DNS settings to the IP
address of the router. Check with your specific satellite provider
(Hughes, Wildblue, etc) for details. The key here is that you must use
THEIR DNS, which gets assigned to the router from the satellite modem.
Bob
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Re: safe for the Lion ???
Posted by: "Oneal Neumann" wardell.h.s@gmail.com newalander
Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:26 pm (PST)
On 2011 December 20 (at 21:45) Denver Dan wrote:
> Howdy.
>
> I'm on Mac OS X 10.7.2 Lion (most recent version).
>
> It's faster than Snow Leopard.
>
> Have you done any maintenance in Apple's Mail program? Like Rebuild
> mailboxes command?
>
> I suspect you are misreading the free space fragmentation percent
> number. A figure of 4 percent would be considered pretty high. 54
> percent is terrible, bad, very bad, worse, the worst I've ever heard of
> in decades of computer use.
>
> Denver Dan
>
> On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 20:35:42 -0500, Oneal Neumann wrote:
> > Interestingly, Snow Leopard has now become glitchy on me, especially
> > Mail, which has become quite wonky. At this point, Denver Dan would
> > say that I need to do a clean install. How does that work? How do I
> > effect that?
> >
> > (Activity Monitor doesn't work any more and has not for a year now. My
> > free-space fragmentation rate is 54%. I'm running 10.6.8.)
> >
> > Thanx. Oneal
>
Tough to mistake two digits before a decimal point, Dan.
I recall that (more than a year ago) I had a lot of problems with startup-harddrive bloat, which was detected by my then-working Activity Monitor.
I bought iDefrag for (presumed) problems of fragmentation bloat and also because Randy Singer had recommended the utility.
I started keeping (as of May 2011) a laptop log (as a TextEdit file) of the goingson with respect to my ProBook and things that I did with/to it.
As of June 30th, I had a fragmentation rate of 63%, which I reduced to 2% using iDefrag. Today's frag rate is 54%.
I sent you a screensnap that attests to that fact, Dan.
I download a lot of pictures from my Sony to my laptop. Perhaps that kind of activity is causing the fragmentation-rate bloat.
I haven't done anything to Mail. I was thinking of leaving everything until I upgrade to Lion. My thinking was that that would cure these sundry (Mail, Activity Monitor, etcetera) ills. Going to wait until TwentyTwelve to go to the Lion OS.
Thanx. Oneal
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Re: safe for the Lion ???
Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net denverdan22180
Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:47 pm (PST)
Howdy.
Thanks for sending me directly your iDefrag Statistics screen capture
I think that what you are reading as 54% fragmentation is actually the
estimated amount of fragmentation within a block of space in the Volume
Director area of your drive.
The amount of fragmentation listed in the same screen capture for files
(data) on the volume is shown as 0.0%/0.0%.
It also shows 293 files out of 824,499 files as being fragmented. In
other words, a very low percent.
Denver Dan
On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:26:19 -0500, Oneal Neumann wrote:
>
> On 2011 December 20 (at 21:45) Denver Dan wrote:
>
>> Howdy.
>>
>> I'm on Mac OS X 10.7.2 Lion (most recent version).
>>
>> It's faster than Snow Leopard.
>>
>> Have you done any maintenance in Apple's Mail program? Like Rebuild
>> mailboxes command?
>>
>> I suspect you are misreading the free space fragmentation percent
>> number. A figure of 4 percent would be considered pretty high. 54
>> percent is terrible, bad, very bad, worse, the worst I've ever heard of
>> in decades of computer use.
>>
>> Denver Dan
>>
>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 20:35:42 -0500, Oneal Neumann wrote:
>>> Interestingly, Snow Leopard has now become glitchy on me, especially
>>> Mail, which has become quite wonky. At this point, Denver Dan would
>>> say that I need to do a clean install. How does that work? How do I
>>> effect that?
>>>
>>> (Activity Monitor doesn't work any more and has not for a year now. My
>>> free-space fragmentation rate is 54%. I'm running 10.6.8.)
>>>
>>> Thanx. Oneal
>>
>
>
> Tough to mistake two digits before a decimal point, Dan.
>
> I recall that (more than a year ago) I had a lot of problems with
> startup-harddrive bloat, which was detected by my then-working
> Activity Monitor.
>
> I bought iDefrag for (presumed) problems of fragmentation bloat and
> also because Randy Singer had recommended the utility.
>
> I started keeping (as of May 2011) a laptop log (as a TextEdit file)
> of the goingson with respect to my ProBook and things that I did
> with/to it.
>
> As of June 30th, I had a fragmentation rate of 63%, which I reduced
> to 2% using iDefrag. Today's frag rate is 54%.
>
> I sent you a screensnap that attests to that fact, Dan.
>
> I download a lot of pictures from my Sony to my laptop. Perhaps that
> kind of activity is causing the fragmentation-rate bloat.
>
> I haven't done anything to Mail. I was thinking of leaving everything
> until I upgrade to Lion. My thinking was that that would cure these
> sundry (Mail, Activity Monitor, etcetera) ills. Going to wait until
> TwentyTwelve to go to the Lion OS.
>
> Thanx. Oneal
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Re: safe for the Lion ???
Posted by: "Oneal Neumann" wardell.h.s@gmail.com newalander
Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:34 pm (PST)
On 2011 December 21 (at 21:47) Denver Dan wrote:
> Howdy.
>
> Thanks for sending me directly your iDefrag Statistics screen capture
>
> I think that what you are reading as 54% fragmentation is actually the
> estimated amount of fragmentation within a block of space in the Volume
> Director area of your drive.
>
> The amount of fragmentation listed in the same screen capture for files
> (data) on the volume is shown as 0.0%/0.0%.
>
> It also shows 293 files out of 824,499 files as being fragmented. In
> other words, a very low percent. Denver Dan
>
And thanx for the private explication, Dan.
As I said in my reply, it had been my understanding that 'free-space' fragmentation was important, as it seemed that this group often talked in that context.
So, my question is this: When does the 54% 'free-space' fragmentation --shown in the lower-right corner-- become an important consideration, if ever?
Thanx. Oneal
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Re: safe for the Lion ???
Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net denverdan22180
Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:30 pm (PST)
Howdy.
Free space in the data (the visible) part of a hard drive partition is
one thing.
Free space in the invisible volume directory, which is a much much much
smaller partition, is less of a problem.
In addition, the fragmented percent of space reported for the volume
directory is for a block and this is a tiny amount of space.
I don't know if the default size of a block in the volume directory is
the same as the default size of a block of space in the Volume Contents
area.
However, the default size of a block in the Volume Contents area is 4
KB.
Check here for some basic info on this.
<http://support.apple.com/ > Apple article on volumes andkb/ht2422
volume size, etc.
So it says that a 160 MB hard drive, formatted using the default block
size of 4 KB, means the drive would have 40 million blocks. So if you
had 40 million files, each of which was smaller than 4 KB in size they
would fit on this 160 MB hard drive.
There are ways to format a hard drive with large block sizes but the
convenient ways may not also provide sufficient backwards compatibility
with current Mac OS X versions.
Third party drive formatting utilities can reformat drives with
different blocks sizes. I used to use these in Mac OS 8, 9, etc., but
haven't in Mac OS X.
Denver Dan
On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 22:34:41 -0500, Oneal Neumann wrote:
>
> So, my question is this: When does the 54% 'free-space' fragmentation
> --shown in the lower-right corner-- become an important
> consideration, if ever?
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Re: safe for the Lion ???
Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net hflaxman001
Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:41 pm (PST)
On Dec 21, 2011, at 11:30 PM, Denver Dan wrote:
>
> Check here for some basic info on this.
>
> <http://support.apple.com/ > Apple article on volumes andkb/ht2422
> volume size, etc.
Dan,
FYI, the document that this URL points to is coming up as 'no longer existing' here.
Are you sure you're getting the knowledgebase article?
Harry
Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@comcast.net
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Re: safe for the Lion ???
Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net hflaxman001
Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:43 pm (PST)
On Dec 21, 2011, at 11:41 PM, Harry Flaxman wrote:
>>
>>
>> Check here for some basic info on this.
>>
>> <http://support.apple.com/ > Apple article on volumes andkb/ht2422
>> volume size, etc.
>
> Dan,
>
> FYI, the document that this URL points to is coming up as 'no longer existing' here.
>
> Are you sure you're getting the knowledgebase article?
>
> Harry
Never mind Dan. I can see the document using Quick look, and then tell it to open in Safari, rather than clicking directly on it. It works.
Thanks!
Harry
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harry.flaxman@comcast.net
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Re: safe for the Lion ???
Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net denverdan22180
Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:41 pm (PST)
Howdy.
The link is working for me including the one is the message here in the
group.
Here's the title and number for it just in case.
Mac OS X: Mac OS Extended format (HFS Plus) volume and file limits
• Last Modified: December 02, 2011
• Article: HT2422
• Old Article: 25557
Summary
Learn the limits for files and volumes on disks that use the Mac OS
Extended format (HFS Plus) in Mac OS X, including journaled, encrypted,
and case-sensitive volumes.
Denver Dan
On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 23:41:20 -0500, Harry Flaxman wrote:
> On Dec 21, 2011, at 11:30 PM, Denver Dan wrote:
>
>>
>> Check here for some basic info on this.
>>
>> <http://support.apple.com/ > Apple article on volumes andkb/ht2422
>> volume size, etc.
>
> Dan,
>
> FYI, the document that this URL points to is coming up as 'no longer
> existing' here.
>
> Are you sure you're getting the knowledgebase article?
>
> Harry
>
> Harry Flaxman
> harry.flaxman@comcast.net
>
>
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Re: safe for the Lion ???
Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net hflaxman001
Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:51 pm (PST)
On Dec 22, 2011, at 12:41 AM, Denver Dan wrote:
> Howdy.
>
> The link is working for me including the one is the message here in the
> group.
>
> Here's the title and number for it just in case.
>
> Mac OS X: Mac OS Extended format (HFS Plus) volume and file limits
>
> • Last Modified: December 02, 2011
> • Article: HT2422
> • Old Article: 25557
> Summary
>
> Learn the limits for files and volumes on disks that use the Mac OS
> Extended format (HFS Plus) in Mac OS X, including journaled, encrypted,
> and case-sensitive volumes.
>
> Denver Dan
Yup, see my post right after that one. I used Quicklook from within Mail, brought the page up and then 'Opened in Safari'. Worked perfectly. Might have been the fact that the link was in the middle of a sentence, even though it was bracketed.
Who knows?
Thanks Dan.
Harry
Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@comcast.net
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Re: iPhone
Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com
Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:39 pm (PST)
Pat, exactly what did you do that DID work?
Daly
> Thank you everyone, I got it to work!
> Pat
> On Dec 21, 2011, at 9:40 AM, Bob Cook wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 7:42 AM, cartoontagger <pat.my3maltese@gmail.com >wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>>
>>>
>>> Just switched from Android to the iPhone.
>>> Is it possible for me to get a notification sound I liked on the Android
>>> phone onto the iPhone? If so, how?
>>>
>>
>> Yes, the iPhone has finally caught up to Android in some key areas. Here
>> is a link that will help:
>>
>> http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/ article/389279/ ios_5_finally_ gets_custom_ notification_ tones/
>>
>> Hopefully, Samsung or Google won't sue Apple over this.
>>
>> Bob
>>
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Message from another member
Posted by: "joan05061" jsax@me.com joan05061
Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:08 pm (PST)
Maybe I am being overly sensitive, but I find the message I just received from another member of our group (identified as Oneal Neumann) as unnecessarily offensive (I did thank him for pointing out the lack of a comma, but my "educational identifier" is what I use in my profession., and I asked him to "get over it").
From: Joan B Sax PhD <jsax@me.com>
Date: Tuesday, 2011 December 20, 16:27:01
To: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups. com
Please remove the educational
identifier from your idee line,
Joan. It's pretentious.
Besides, without the requisite
comma, the PhD looks like
it's a part of your name.
Reminds me of people who try
to be linguistically cute, then
say 'from whence', which is
grammatically incorrect.
(It's a tautology.)
Thanx. Oneal
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Re: Message from another member
Posted by: "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen@earthlink.net dougyelmen
Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:34 pm (PST)
No, Joan, I don't believe you were being overly sensitive.
This is not the place for this kind of exchange between members.
I said something similar recently.
Please show a little respect for each other and the list.
Doug,
On Dec 21, 2011, at 8:08 PM, joan05061 wrote:
> Maybe I am being overly sensitive, but I find the message I just received from another member of our group (identified as Oneal Neumann) as unnecessarily offensive (I did thank him for pointing out the lack of a comma, but my "educational identifier" is what I use in my profession., and I asked him to "get over it").
>
> From: Joan B Sax PhD <jsax@me.com>
> Date: Tuesday, 2011 December 20, 16:27:01
> To: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups. com
>
> Please remove the educational
> identifier from your idee line,
> Joan. It's pretentious.
>
> Besides, without the requisite
> comma, the PhD looks like
> it's a part of your name.
>
> Reminds me of people who try
> to be linguistically cute, then
> say 'from whence', which is
> grammatically incorrect.
>
> (It's a tautology.)
> Thanx. Oneal
>
>
>
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Re: Mac Virus
Posted by: "imran khan" sj.imran@gmail.com sj.imran
Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:23 pm (PST)
Its ok , i didn't take it serious.
sharing is caring. we gain more by sharing knowledge.
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Tod Hopkins <hoplist@hillmanncarr.com >wrote:
> **
>
>
> > On Dec 20, 2011, at 1:32 PM, imran khan wrote:
> > That's it i will just keep Quite and observe the mails no more discussion
> > from my side. [?]
>
> I was just teasing you. Please do NOT keep quiet. We value all opinions,
> young and old, experienced or inexperience. We learn from everyone.
>
> Cheers,
>
> tod
>
> Tod Hopkins
> Hillmann & Carr Inc.
> todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com
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