12/22/2011

[macsupport] Digest Number 8638

Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)

1.1.
Re: search From: Michael P. Stupinski
1.2.
Re: search From: Harry Flaxman
1.3.
Re: search From: Otto Nikolaus
1.4.
Re: search From: Keith Whaley
1.5.
Re: search From: Otto Nikolaus
1.6.
Re: search From: Michael P. Stupinski
1.7.
Re: search From: Keith Whaley
1.8.
Re: search From: Keith Whaley
1.9.
Re: search From: Harry Flaxman
1.10.
Re: search From: Otto Nikolaus
1.11.
Re: search From: Harry Flaxman
1.12.
Re: search From: Keith Whaley
1.13.
Re: search From: Lyle Syverson
2.
Printer issues w updates From: hester reik
3.1.
Re: iPhone From: pat412255
4.
Getting my e-mail on my iPad From: Deborah L
5a.
Firefox 9 Is Out From: Denver dan
5b.
Re: Firefox 9 Is Out From: Denver Dan
5c.
Re: Firefox 9 Is Out From: Arjun Singhal
6a.
Mac app store updates keep repeating From: J Masters
6b.
Re: Mac app store updates keep repeating From: Harry Flaxman
6c.
Re: Mac app store updates keep repeating From: Harry Flaxman
6d.
Re: Mac app store updates keep repeating From: J Masters
6e.
Re: Mac app store updates keep repeating From: Harry Flaxman
6f.
Re: Mac app store updates keep repeating From: J Masters

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1.1.

Re: search

Posted by: "Michael P. Stupinski" mpstupinski@snet.net   mstupinski

Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:17 am (PST)



I guess we're talking different OS versions here. I'm still using
10.5.8. The Calculator I'm talking about, that comes up in a 10.5.8
Spotlight search (unsurprisingly) is an application which Apple put
right there in the Applications folder.

........Mike

On Dec 22, 2011, at 3:09 AM, Keith Whaley wrote:

> Michael P. Stupinski wrote:
>> I believe that one is "Rad" for radians, Keith. Move to the right
>> three buttons.
>>
>> ......Mike
>>
>> On Dec 21, 2011, at 7:12 PM, Keith Whaley wrote:
>>
>>> Mike Stupinski wrote:
>>>> That's what I get when I search for "Calculator" in Spotlight.
>>>> What I
>>>> couldn't find, though, was the random number generator.
>>>>
>>>> .........Mike
>
>
> Nossir. Not on the Spotlight calculator version I have.
> Three buttons up above the "Rand" button is "Rad". That's the radians
> button.
> Pressing the "Rand" button does indeed give you a random number.
>
> keith
>
>>> It's a button, lower left, labeled "Rand."
>>>
>>>
>>> keith
>
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Re: search

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:48 am (PST)



On Dec 22, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Michael P. Stupinski wrote:

> I guess we're talking different OS versions here. I'm still using
> 10.5.8. The Calculator I'm talking about, that comes up in a 10.5.8
> Spotlight search (unsurprisingly) is an application which Apple put
> right there in the Applications folder.
>
> ........Mike
>
>
> On Dec 22, 2011, at 3:09 AM, Keith Whaley wrote:
>
>> Michael P. Stupinski wrote:
>>> I believe that one is "Rad" for radians, Keith. Move to the right
>>> three buttons.
>>>
>>> ......Mike
>>>
>>> On Dec 21, 2011, at 7:12 PM, Keith Whaley wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mike Stupinski wrote:
>>>>> That's what I get when I search for "Calculator" in Spotlight.
>>>>> What I
>>>>> couldn't find, though, was the random number generator.
>>>>>
>>>>> .........Mike
>>
>>
>> Nossir. Not on the Spotlight calculator version I have.
>> Three buttons up above the "Rand" button is "Rad". That's the radians
>> button.
>> Pressing the "Rand" button does indeed give you a random number.
>>
>> keith
>>
>>>> It's a button, lower left, labeled "Rand."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> keith
>>
>>
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That's all I get in 10.7.2 as well! There seems to be no special Calculator app here. None listed in Spotlight either. Just the one.

Harry

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Re: search

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:09 am (PST)



On 22 December 2011 13:48, Harry Flaxman <harry.flaxman@comcast.net> wrote:

>
> That's all I get in 10.7.2 as well! There seems to be no special
> Calculator app here. None listed in Spotlight either. Just the one.
>

10.5.8 here.

So what's Keith using? I did wonder if the Calculator app has changed since
10.5 but it seems not (unless 10.6 is different, despite 10.5 and 10.7
being the same, which seems unlikely).

Otto

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Re: search

Posted by: "Keith Whaley" keith_w@dslextreme.com   keith9600

Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:30 am (PST)



Otto Nikolaus wrote:
> On 22 December 2011 08:02, Keith Whaley <keith_w@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > "The usual"? I'd say no. I've never seen a calculator app like this one.
> > I would have remembered.
> > In fact, I'd much rather have the Spotlight calc app as one of my
> > Widgets, in place of the one the Widget folks offer...

> > Not the same as the one in Applications, which I use routinely?
>
> Otto

Yes, Otto, it IS the same as the one inside Applications. At least on OS
10.6.8. I have so many calculators around, I've never even looked at
that one, but...I find I really like it.

I think I'll put a copy in my Dock...

keith

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1.5.

Re: search

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:49 am (PST)



On 22 December 2011 19:30, Keith Whaley <keith_w@dslextreme.com> wrote:

>
> Yes, Otto, it IS the same as the one inside Applications. At least on OS
> 10.6.8. I have so many calculators around, I've never even looked at
> that one, but...I find I really like it.
>
> I think I'll put a copy in my Dock...
>

Strange ... you have many, but have never tried the built-in one before?

Don't forget to try out the different views and the convert function. ;)

Otto

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Re: search

Posted by: "Michael P. Stupinski" mpstupinski@snet.net   mstupinski

Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:45 pm (PST)



Well, my MBP is running 10.6.8 and I just checked the Calculator on
that system it is still the app in the Applications folder, but it IS
a different one than on my G5 PowerPC running 10.5.8. It sounds as if
Otto's calculator is the same as I have on the G5, though. Is it
possible that Apple moved back and forth on what they installed?

For the record, the calculator in 10.5.8 is Universal application and
is v4.2.

The calculator in 10.6.8 is an Intel application, v4.5.3

.......Mike

On Dec 22, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Keith Whaley wrote:

> Otto Nikolaus wrote:
>> On 22 December 2011 08:02, Keith Whaley <keith_w@dslextreme.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "The usual"? I'd say no. I've never seen a calculator app like
>>> this one.
>>> I would have remembered.
>>> In fact, I'd much rather have the Spotlight calc app as one of my
>>> Widgets, in place of the one the Widget folks offer...
>
>
>>> Not the same as the one in Applications, which I use routinely?
>>
>> Otto
>
> Yes, Otto, it IS the same as the one inside Applications. At least
> on OS
> 10.6.8. I have so many calculators around, I've never even looked at
> that one, but...I find I really like it.
>
> I think I'll put a copy in my Dock...
>
> keith
>
>
>
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1.7.

Re: search

Posted by: "Keith Whaley" keith_w@dslextreme.com   keith9600

Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:00 pm (PST)



Otto Nikolaus wrote:
> On 22 December 2011 19:30, Keith Whaley <keith_w@dslextreme.com
> <mailto:keith_w%40dslextreme.com>> wrote:
>
> >
> > Yes, Otto, it IS the same as the one inside Applications. At least on OS
> > 10.6.8. I have so many calculators around, I've never even looked at
> > that one, but...I find I really like it.
> >
> > I think I'll put a copy in my Dock...

> Strange ... you have many, but have never tried the built-in one before?

Well, that's me. All the ones of which I speak are hand-held. Plenty of
them around. Most with a number of more functions than the Applications
version, but...back then I was finishing my engineering career, and
needed a LOT more than I do now.

> Don't forget to try out the different views and the convert function. ;)
>
> Otto

Whoa! I just looked at the top of the screen menu bar. Wow.
I just moved the app over to the Dock. I'll be using that in preference
to my handheld, no doubt. I appreciate the words.

keith

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1.8.

Re: search

Posted by: "Keith Whaley" keith_w@dslextreme.com   keith9600

Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:04 pm (PST)



Michael P. Stupinski wrote:
> Well, my MBP is running 10.6.8 and I just checked the Calculator on
> that system it is still the app in the Applications folder, but it IS
> a different one than on my G5 PowerPC running 10.5.8. It sounds as if
> Otto's calculator is the same as I have on the G5, though. Is it
> possible that Apple moved back and forth on what they installed?
>
> For the record, the calculator in 10.5.8 is Universal application and
> is v4.2.
>
> The calculator in 10.6.8 is an Intel application, v4.5.3
>
> .......Mike

Yup. 4.5.3 is the one I ;have on my computer.
Thanks for clearing that up.

keith

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1.9.

Re: search

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:13 pm (PST)



On Dec 22, 2011, at 4:04 PM, Keith Whaley wrote:

> Michael P. Stupinski wrote:
>> Well, my MBP is running 10.6.8 and I just checked the Calculator on
>> that system it is still the app in the Applications folder, but it IS
>> a different one than on my G5 PowerPC running 10.5.8. It sounds as if
>> Otto's calculator is the same as I have on the G5, though. Is it
>> possible that Apple moved back and forth on what they installed?
>>
>> For the record, the calculator in 10.5.8 is Universal application and
>> is v4.2.
>>
>> The calculator in 10.6.8 is an Intel application, v4.5.3
>>
>> .......Mike
>
> Yup. 4.5.3 is the one I ;have on my computer.
> Thanks for clearing that up.
>

The one I have under 10.7.2 just says 10.7 (116).

Things must have been rewritten.

Harry

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1.10.

Re: search

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:27 pm (PST)



On 22 December 2011 13:48, Harry Flaxman <harry.flaxman@comcast.net> wrote:

>
> That's all I get in 10.7.2 as well! There seems to be no special
> Calculator app here. None listed in Spotlight either. Just the one.
>

Where is the RN/random button in your version?

Otto

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Re: search

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:32 pm (PST)



On Dec 22, 2011, at 4:26 PM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:

> On 22 December 2011 13:48, Harry Flaxman <harry.flaxman@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> That's all I get in 10.7.2 as well! There seems to be no special
>> Calculator app here. None listed in Spotlight either. Just the one.
>>
>
> Where is the RN/random button in your version?
>
> Otto

3rd column from the left, bottom button, labeled 'Rand'.

Harry

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1.12.

Re: search

Posted by: "Keith Whaley" keith_w@dslextreme.com   keith9600

Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:03 pm (PST)



Otto Nikolaus wrote:
> On 22 December 2011 13:48, Harry Flaxman <harry.flaxman@comcast.net
> <mailto:harry.flaxman%40comcast.net>> wrote:
>

> > That's all I get in 10.7.2 as well! There seems to be no special
> > Calculator app here. None listed in Spotlight either. Just the one.
> >

> Where is the RN/random button in your version?
>
> Otto

Bottom row, third button from the left, marked "Rand."

Keith

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Re: search

Posted by: "Lyle Syverson" lutefisk4me2@sbcglobal.net   lyle837

Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:06 pm (PST)



>>
>> That's all I get in 10.7.2 as well! There seems to be no special
>> Calculator app here. None listed in Spotlight either. Just the one.
>>
>
> 10.5.8 here.
>
> So what's Keith using? I did wonder if the Calculator app has changed since
> 10.5 but it seems not (unless 10.6 is different, despite 10.5 and 10.7
> being the same, which seems unlikely).
>
> Otto
>

10.6.8 here:

I get the regular calculator.

Type the name of any one of your applications in the spotlight search box, click, the application is launched.

If he has another calculator installed it could be the one launched rather than the standard one.

Lyle Syverson

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Printer issues w updates

Posted by: "hester reik" dhreik@gmail.com   drhester_06107

Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:30 am (PST)



Gurus,
Just a point of information. The failure of duplex printing on my brother
b/w occurred again after the most recent download. This is getting to be a
pita.
It's solved again, but irritating.
hester

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3.1.

Re: iPhone

Posted by: "pat412255" pat412@mac.com   pat412255

Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:31 am (PST)



I use the steps outlined in this blog to create ringtones from songs in my iTunes library:
<http://www.simonblog.com/2010/09/06/how-to-create-ringtone-for-iphone-on-itunes-10/>

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Denver Dan <denver.dan@...> wrote:
>
> Howdy.
>
> I think I forgot an important point!
>
> You may have to start with an MP3 music file in iTunes.
>
> If you have a music file in a different format, it may not want to
> import into GarageBand.
>
> Perhaps a more experienced ring tone maker here can, as it were, chime
> in on this topic.
>
> Denver Dan
>
>
> On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 09:31:29 -0500, Denver Dan wrote:
> > To make a ring tone from a song in iTunes you need to also have
> > GarageBand installed. Garage Band is a free application from Apple
> > installed when the OS is installed.
> >
> > In GarageBand, there is a section named iPhone Ringtone.
> >
> > You'll need to search online for the exact steps to to this. Also, if
> > you haven't used GarageBand before, when you first launch it take the
> > tutorial lesson that is part of it.
>

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Getting my e-mail on my iPad

Posted by: "Deborah L" hairydeb@yahoo.com   hairydeb

Thu Dec 22, 2011 7:01 am (PST)



I have a question I hope you guys can help with. I'm not able to get my email on my iPad any more. I can get it on my iPhone. I get it from yahoo and google. Thanks for help!

Debbi

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5a.

Firefox 9 Is Out

Posted by: "Denver dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:38 am (PST)



Howdy.

Firefox 9, just released, says it supports two finger swooping gestures on MacBook track pads and Magic Mouse.

Anybody tried it? Opinion?

!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i
iFrom Denver Dan's iPhone

— my magical animal is a butterfly
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Re: Firefox 9 Is Out

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:01 am (PST)



WHOOPS!

Swooping? Well, that would be interesting indeed.

How about Swiping gestures?

Denver Dan

On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 12:38:50 -0500, Denver dan wrote:
>
> Firefox 9, just released, says it supports two finger swooping
> gestures on MacBook track pads and Magic Mouse.
>
> Anybody tried it? Opinion?

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Re: Firefox 9 Is Out

Posted by: "Arjun Singhal" arjunsinghal@yahoo.com   arjunsinghal

Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:33 am (PST)



The two finger gesture is for the trackpad, while on the magic mouse, its a one finger gesture. It nowhere looks as cool as safari, but it is there. I realized it only after I got stuck trying to make the butter fly from my magiglassical mouse

On 22-Dec-2011, at 11:08 PM, Denver dan wrote:

> Howdy.
>
> Firefox 9, just released, says it supports two finger swooping gestures on MacBook track pads and Magic Mouse.
>
> Anybody tried it? Opinion?
>
> !i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i
> iFrom Denver Dan's iPhone
>
> � my magical animal is a butterfly
>
>

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Mac app store updates keep repeating

Posted by: "J Masters" johnmasters@me.com   joemastersk

Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:36 am (PST)



I have several apps from the Mac app store and have just noticed that when I update from the store the app does not get marked as updated. When I next select updates the same apps are there even though the update has been applied. Today I had 31 apps to update going back over 3 months. 28 of these had already been updated.

Any ideas?

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Re: Mac app store updates keep repeating

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:07 pm (PST)



On Dec 22, 2011, at 1:36 PM, J Masters wrote:

> I have several apps from the Mac app store and have just noticed that when I update from the store the app does not get marked as updated. When I next select updates the same apps are there even though the update has been applied. Today I had 31 apps to update going back over 3 months. 28 of these had already been updated.

Yah, I had this issue at one point. There is a .plist file to trash, but I can't recall which one. It should be obvious that it's attached to the app store though.

I'll look and get back to you.

Harry

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Re: Mac app store updates keep repeating

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:10 pm (PST)



On Dec 22, 2011, at 3:07 PM, Harry Flaxman wrote:

> On Dec 22, 2011, at 1:36 PM, J Masters wrote:
>
>> I have several apps from the Mac app store and have just noticed that when I update from the store the app does not get marked as updated. When I next select updates the same apps are there even though the update has been applied. Today I had 31 apps to update going back over 3 months. 28 of these had already been updated.
>
> Yah, I had this issue at one point. There is a .plist file to trash, but I can't recall which one. It should be obvious that it's attached to the app store though.
>
> I'll look and get back to you.

Here they are They're in ~/username/Library/Preferences/

com.apple.storeagent.plist
com.apple.storeagent.plist.lockfile

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Re: Mac app store updates keep repeating

Posted by: "J Masters" johnmasters@me.com   joemastersk

Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:13 pm (PST)




On 22 Dec 2011, at 20:09, Harry Flaxman wrote:

> On Dec 22, 2011, at 3:07 PM, Harry Flaxman wrote:
>
> > On Dec 22, 2011, at 1:36 PM, J Masters wrote:
> >
> >> I have several apps from the Mac app store and have just noticed that when I update from the store the app does not get marked as updated. When I next select updates the same apps are there even though the update has been applied. Today I had 31 apps to update going back over 3 months. 28 of these had already been updated.
> >
> > Yah, I had this issue at one point. There is a .plist file to trash, but I can't recall which one. It should be obvious that it's attached to the app store though.
> >
> > I'll look and get back to you.
>
> Here they are They're in ~/username/Library/Preferences/
>
> com.apple.storeagent.plist
> com.apple.storeagent.plist.lockfile
>

Thanks Harry,

That got rid of some. Still saying 17 updates left. I'll do update again then trash the .plist files and see what gives.

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Re: Mac app store updates keep repeating

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:41 pm (PST)



On Dec 22, 2011, at 3:13 PM, J Masters wrote:

> On 22 Dec 2011, at 20:09, Harry Flaxman wrote:
>
>> On Dec 22, 2011, at 3:07 PM, Harry Flaxman wrote:
>>
>>> On Dec 22, 2011, at 1:36 PM, J Masters wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have several apps from the Mac app store and have just noticed that when I update from the store the app does not get marked as updated. When I next select updates the same apps are there even though the update has been applied. Today I had 31 apps to update going back over 3 months. 28 of these had already been updated.
>>>
>>> Yah, I had this issue at one point. There is a .plist file to trash, but I can't recall which one. It should be obvious that it's attached to the app store though.
>>>
>>> I'll look and get back to you.
>>
>> Here they are They're in ~/username/Library/Preferences/
>>
>> com.apple.storeagent.plist
>> com.apple.storeagent.plist.lockfile
>>
>
> Thanks Harry,
>
> That got rid of some. Still saying 17 updates left. I'll do update again then trash the .plist files and see what gives.

Should do it. I had 2 that were pending that really were not. Had just not gotten around to trashing the preference file. Just did, restarted the store, and they were gone.

Harry

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Re: Mac app store updates keep repeating

Posted by: "J Masters" johnmasters@me.com   joemastersk

Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:02 pm (PST)




On 22 Dec 2011, at 20:41, Harry Flaxman wrote:

> On Dec 22, 2011, at 3:13 PM, J Masters wrote:
>
> > On 22 Dec 2011, at 20:09, Harry Flaxman wrote:
> >
> >> On Dec 22, 2011, at 3:07 PM, Harry Flaxman wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Dec 22, 2011, at 1:36 PM, J Masters wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I have several apps from the Mac app store and have just noticed that when I update from the store the app does not get marked as updated. When I next select updates the same apps are there even though the update has been applied. Today I had 31 apps to update going back over 3 months. 28 of these had already been updated.
> >>>
> >>> Yah, I had this issue at one point. There is a .plist file to trash, but I can't recall which one. It should be obvious that it's attached to the app store though.
> >>>
> >>> I'll look and get back to you.
> >>
> >> Here they are They're in ~/username/Library/Preferences/
> >>
> >> com.apple.storeagent.plist
> >> com.apple.storeagent.plist.lockfile
> >>
> >
> > Thanks Harry,
> >
> > That got rid of some. Still saying 17 updates left. I'll do update again then trash the .plist files and see what gives.
>
> Should do it. I had 2 that were pending that really were not. Had just not gotten around to trashing the preference file. Just did, restarted the store, and they were gone.
>
> Harry
>

Took 4 goes but I finally got zero updates. Many thanks. I shall write this in my Circus Ponies Notebook

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