Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)
- 1a.
- Re: Simple database From: Donald Canty
- 1b.
- Re: Simple database From: sew sews
- 1c.
- Re: Simple database From: Daly Jessup
- 1d.
- Re: Simple database From: Daly Jessup
- 1e.
- Re: Simple database From: Randy B. Singer
- 1f.
- Re: Simple database From: sew sews
- 2a.
- Re: search From: Jurgen Richter
- 2b.
- Re: search From: Harry Flaxman
- 2c.
- Re: search From: Denver Dan
- 2d.
- Re: search From: sew sews
- 2e.
- Re: search From: Harry Flaxman
- 2f.
- Re: search From: sew sews
- 2g.
- Re: search From: Harry Flaxman
- 3.1.
- Re: Mac Virus From: Jim Saklad
- 3.2.
- Re: Mac Virus From: Harry Flaxman
- 3.3.
- Re: Mac Virus From: Keith Whaley
- 3.4.
- Re: Mac Virus From: Harry Flaxman
- 3.5.
- Re: Mac Virus From: Tim O'Donoghue
- 3.6.
- Re: Mac Virus From: OBrien
- 3.7.
- Re: Mac Virus From: Daly Jessup
- 3.8.
- Re: Mac Virus From: Barry Austern
- 4.
- Upgrading to Snow Leopard from OS 10.4 (is that Tiger?) From: Joan B Sax Ph.D.
- 5a.
- Re: Problem updating Safari using Software Update From: Jim Showalter
- 6.
- Troubleshooting the boot process for Intel Macs From: Bill B.
- 7.
- Re: safe for the Lion ??? From: Oneal Neumann
Messages
- 1a.
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Re: Simple database
Posted by: "Donald Canty" doncant@verizon.net doncant2003
Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:46 am (PST)
A much simpler database is iData. http://www.idata3.com/
It's quite uncomplicated and versatile. Not cheap though - $70.
Don
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- 1b.
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Re: Simple database
Posted by: "sew sews" sews315@gmail.com sews315
Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:42 pm (PST)
Did you miss my post from yesterday listing a bunch of user friendly
database programs?
I'll send you the list via private e-mail.
_____________________ _________ _________ ____
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts. html
_____________________ _________ _________ _
Randy would you let me know what the message number is so I can also read
this post
thank you
sews315
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- 1c.
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Re: Simple database
Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com
Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:39 pm (PST)
On Dec 20, 2011, at 10:46 AM, Donald Canty wrote:
> A much simpler database is iData. http://www.idata3.com/
>
> It's quite uncomplicated and versatile. Not cheap though - $70.
I'm glad you brought that up. I love it. I bought it years ago, but have since forgotten about it. But it is the most user-friendly small data base I've ever seen. I don't know that it would serve semi-complicated business uses, though. Do you think it would? I've used it only for very small purposes.
Daly
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Re: Simple database
Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com
Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:58 pm (PST)
On Dec 20, 2011, at 4:39 PM, Daly Jessup wrote:
> On Dec 20, 2011, at 10:46 AM, Donald Canty wrote:
>
>> A much simpler database is iData. http://www.idata3.com/
>>
>> It's quite uncomplicated and versatile. Not cheap though - $70.
>
> I'm glad you brought that up. I love it. I bought it years ago, but have since forgotten about it. But it is the most user-friendly small data base I've ever seen. I don't know that it would serve semi-complicated business uses, though. Do you think it would? I've used it only for very small purposes.
Adding to my own post: I just downloaded iData 3 in Lion and installed it. Then I moved over an old AppleWorks database. I had first (in Snow Leopard) exported the data base as a .txt file then opened it in Excel and saved it as Tab-delmited (which could also be done with any Excel look-alike) and moved that tab-delimited file to Lion (in my VMWare Fusion installation of Lion).
Anyway, iData performed perfectly in Lion and imported the tab-delimited file. So this is now a proven path for moving from AppleWorks to Lion for data base files.
At least to me.
Daly
- 1e.
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Re: Simple database
Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com randybrucesinger
Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:03 pm (PST)
On Dec 20, 2011, at 2:42 PM, sew sews wrote:
> Randy would you let me know what the message number is so I can
> also read
> this post
I guess that folks missed it on the list, since some people are still
saying that there "aren't any simple databases for the Mac". Here
you go:
NeoOffice (free)
http://www.neooffice.org/neojava/ en/index. php
LibreOffice (free)
http://www.libreoffice.org
(Office suites with included databases.)
Bento $49
http://www.filemaker.com/products/ bento/overview. html?nav= products- bento
EagleData (free)
http://www.eaglesoft.de/eagle/ eagledata. html
FrontBase (free if you forego support)
http://www.frontbase.com/cgi- bin/WebObjects/ FBWebSite. woa
Panorama Sheets ($40)
http://provue.com/panoramashee ts/index. html
iList Data ($70)
http://www.lakewoodstudios.com/ ilistdata/
iDatabase ($20)
http://www.apimac.com/idatabase/
iData ($70)
http://www.idata3.com/
Valentina ($50)
http://www.paradigmasoft.com/
http://www.valentina-db.com/
Papyrus $99 (an office suite that includes a database)
http://www.rom-logicware. com/
SuperCard $179
http://www.supercard.us/
Structured databases:
ScrapIt Pro $25
http://www.johnvholder.com/sipxdesc .html
(What I use personally)
InTouch With $50
http://www.intouchwith.com/pages/ intouchwith. html
_____________________ _________ _________ ____
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts. html
_____________________ _________ _________ ____
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Re: Simple database
Posted by: "sew sews" sews315@gmail.com sews315
Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:50 pm (PST)
thanks Randy.
a great list
thanks Sews315
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Randy B. Singer <randy@macattorney.com >wrote:
> **
>
>
>
> On Dec 20, 2011, at 2:42 PM, sew sews wrote:
>
> > Randy would you let me know what the message number is so I can
> > also read
> > this post
>
> I guess that folks missed it on the list, since some people are still
> saying that there "aren't any simple databases for the Mac". Here
> you go:
>
>
> NeoOffice (free)
> http://www.neooffice.org/neojava/ en/index. php
> LibreOffice (free)
> http://www.libreoffice.org
> (Office suites with included databases.)
>
> Bento $49
> http://www.filemaker.com/products/ bento/overview. html?nav= products- bento
>
> EagleData (free)
> http://www.eaglesoft.de/eagle/ eagledata. html
>
> FrontBase (free if you forego support)
> http://www.frontbase.com/cgi- bin/WebObjects/ FBWebSite. woa
>
> Panorama Sheets ($40)
> http://provue.com/panoramashee ts/index. html
>
> iList Data ($70)
> http://www.lakewoodstudios.com/ ilistdata/
>
> iDatabase ($20)
> http://www.apimac.com/idatabase/
>
> iData ($70)
> http://www.idata3.com/
>
> Valentina ($50)
> http://www.paradigmasoft.com/
> http://www.valentina-db.com/
>
> Papyrus $99 (an office suite that includes a database)
> http://www.rom-logicware. com/
>
> SuperCard $179
> http://www.supercard.us/
>
> Structured databases:
>
> ScrapIt Pro $25
> http://www.johnvholder.com/sipxdesc .html
> (What I use personally)
>
> InTouch With $50
> http://www.intouchwith.com/pages/ intouchwith. html
>
> _____________________ _________ _________ ____
> Randy B. Singer
> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
>
> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
> http://www.macattorney.com/ts. html
> _____________________ _________ _________ ____
>
>
>
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Re: search
Posted by: "Jurgen Richter" yahoo-1@sympatico.ca epsongroups
Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:08 am (PST)
Once you have located the file with Finder using the filename, go to
View > Show Path Bar
Then at the bottom of the window frame it will show you where it is
specifically located.
You can click on any of those folders to take you there directly.
At least that is how it works for Snow Leopard
===
I searched for a document I did in Pages and found it but how do I see
what folder it was saved in. is there a way to view this in in the
search field or by opening the document?
Thank you
Sews315
- 2b.
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Re: search
Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net hflaxman001
Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:15 am (PST)
On Dec 20, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Jurgen Richter wrote:
> Once you have located the file with Finder using the filename, go to
> View > Show Path Bar
> Then at the bottom of the window frame it will show you where it is
> specifically located.
> You can click on any of those folders to take you there directly.
> At least that is how it works for Snow Leopard
Same in Lion, however, you must enable that view from the Finder/View menu.
Harry
Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@comcast.net
- 2c.
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Re: search
Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net denverdan22180
Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:08 pm (PST)
Howdy.
In addition to Harry's response (turn on the Path bar), you can at any
time, in any Finder window, see the path by doing a right click (or
control left click) on the name of the Finder window.
The name of the Finder window is always in top center of Toolbar. A
drop down menu will show the path and you can use your mouse arrow to
pick any of the sub folders in the path and go directly to it.
BTW. The little blue folder icon to left of the Finder window name has
a trick. You can drag this little blue folder icon to a printer icon
and Finder will print a list of the files in the folder for you.
Denver Dan
On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 17:36:06 +0000, sews315 wrote:
> I searched for a document I did in Pages and found it but how do I
> see what folder it was saved in. is there a way to view this in in
> the search field or by opening the document?
> Thank you
> Sews315
- 2d.
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Re: search
Posted by: "sew sews" sews315@gmail.com sews315
Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:34 pm (PST)
Thank you all.
I have Lion so I am using both Harry and Denver Dan's idea.
It is great to see the path cause I frequently forget where I store
documents
Sews315
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net > wrote:
> **
>
>
> Howdy.
>
> In addition to Harry's response (turn on the Path bar), you can at any
> time, in any Finder window, see the path by doing a right click (or
> control left click) on the name of the Finder window.
>
> The name of the Finder window is always in top center of Toolbar. A
> drop down menu will show the path and you can use your mouse arrow to
> pick any of the sub folders in the path and go directly to it.
>
> BTW. The little blue folder icon to left of the Finder window name has
> a trick. You can drag this little blue folder icon to a printer icon
> and Finder will print a list of the files in the folder for you.
>
> Denver Dan
>
> On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 17:36:06 +0000, sews315 wrote:
> > I searched for a document I did in Pages and found it but how do I
> > see what folder it was saved in. is there a way to view this in in
> > the search field or by opening the document?
> > Thank you
> > Sews315
>
>
>
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- 2e.
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Re: search
Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net hflaxman001
Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:48 pm (PST)
On Dec 20, 2011, at 5:34 PM, sew sews wrote:
> Thank you all.
> I have Lion so I am using both Harry and Denver Dan's idea.
> It is great to see the path cause I frequently forget where I store
> documents
> Sews315
Don't forget Spotlight too! Upper right menubar, magnifying glass icon.
Harry
Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@comcast.net
- 2f.
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Re: search
Posted by: "sew sews" sews315@gmail.com sews315
Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:54 pm (PST)
Thanks Harry.
I never knew of the spotlight menu till just know
This group is so helpful
Thanks again
Sews315
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- 2g.
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Re: search
Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net hflaxman001
Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:58 pm (PST)
On Dec 20, 2011, at 5:54 PM, sew sews wrote:
> Thanks Harry.
> I never knew of the spotlight menu till just know
> This group is so helpful
> Thanks again
Sure enough! Lot's of little things that make this operating system neat!
Harry
Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@comcast.net
- 3.1.
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Re: Mac Virus
Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com jimdoc01
Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:25 am (PST)
>> OMG. I was two year old at 1986!!!!!!!
>> Imran
>
> Wow! I was 30 in 1986~~ :) :)
> Harry
41
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Re: Mac Virus
Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net hflaxman001
Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:02 pm (PST)
On Dec 20, 2011, at 2:25 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:
>>> OMG. I was two year old at 1986!!!!!!!
>>> Imran
>>
>> Wow! I was 30 in 1986~~ :) :)
>> Harry
>
>
> 41
I feel like a 'wee one' compared to you guys! And I thought I was up there ! :)
Harry
Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@comcast.net
- 3.3.
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Re: Mac Virus
Posted by: "Keith Whaley" keith_w@dslextreme.com keith9600
Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:44 pm (PST)
Jim Saklad wrote:
> >> OMG. I was two year old at 1986!!!!!!!
> >> Imran
> >
> > Wow! I was 30 in 1986~~ :) :)
> > Harry
>
> 41
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~
> Jim Saklad
56.
keith whaley
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Re: Mac Virus
Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net hflaxman001
Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:48 pm (PST)
On Dec 20, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Keith Whaley wrote:
> im Saklad wrote:
>>>> OMG. I was two year old at 1986!!!!!!!
>>>> Imran
>>>
>>> Wow! I was 30 in 1986~~ :) :)
>>> Harry
>>
>> 41
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~
>> Jim Saklad
>
> 56.
Wow!! I thought ROCKS didn't live that long!! :) :)
Harry
Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@comcast.net
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Re: Mac Virus
Posted by: "Tim O'Donoghue" tjod@drizzle.net timodonoghue
Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:15 pm (PST)
Almost as old as helium.
On Dec 20, 2011, at 2:48 PM, Harry Flaxman wrote:
> On Dec 20, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Keith Whaley wrote:
>
>> im Saklad wrote:
>>>>> OMG. I was two year old at 1986!!!!!!!
>>>>> Imran
>>>>
>>>> Wow! I was 30 in 1986~~ :) :)
>>>> Harry
>>>
>>> 41
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~
>>> Jim Saklad
>>
>> 56.
>
> Wow!! I thought ROCKS didn't live that long!! :) :)
>
> Harry
>
>
> Harry Flaxman
> harry.flaxman@comcast.net
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- 3.6.
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Re: Mac Virus
Posted by: "OBrien" bco@hiwaay.net conorboru
Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:57 pm (PST)
On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 11:51:53 -0500, Tod Hopkins wrote:
> When you are older, you will not say such things when there are old
> people around.
Who around here's old?
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
O'Brien ––– –... .-. .. . -. - 3.7.
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Re: Mac Virus
Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com
Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:40 pm (PST)
On Dec 20, 2011, at 6:55 AM, Imran wrote:
> OMG. I was two year old at 1986!!!!!!!
Okay, if we're going to play this game, I was 40 years old in 1986!
Daly
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Re: Mac Virus
Posted by: "Barry Austern" barryaus@fuse.net barryaus
Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:01 pm (PST)
At 5:40 PM -0800 12/20/11, Daly Jessup wrote:
>
>
>On Dec 20, 2011, at 6:55 AM, Imran wrote:
>
>> OMG. I was two year old at 1986!!!!!!!
>
>Okay, if we're going to play this game, I was 40 years old in 1986!
>
>Daly
Still almost in diapers. I was born in 1942. Since OS-X has a built
in calculator (bringing this back on topic) you can do the arithmetic
easily enough.
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net
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Upgrading to Snow Leopard from OS 10.4 (is that Tiger?)
Posted by: "Joan B Sax Ph.D." jsax@me.com joan05061
Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:27 pm (PST)
My husband has a Mac Mini (about 4-5 years old) that is running OS 10.4. I now have Lion on my computer and I am wondering if I can put Snow Leopard on his computer without going through the interim OS 10.5 (don't remember what cat that is, Leopard, I guess). Can I just install Snow Leopard, or do I have to go through Tiger and the Leopard, which of course means I have to find the disk for Leopard?
Joan in Vermont where it is a balmy 22 degrees - no skiing but then no shoveling either - can't complain (and it wouldn't do any good if I did)
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Re: Problem updating Safari using Software Update
Posted by: "Jim Showalter" jshowalt@mindspring.com jshowalt94127
Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:37 pm (PST)
On Dec 20, 2011, at 10:09 AM, Harry Flaxman wrote:
> On Dec 20, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Jim Showalter wrote:
>
>> On Dec 20, 2011, at 8:05 AM, Harry Flaxman wrote:
>>
>>> On Dec 20, 2011, at 10:24 AM, davidpriceuk wrote:
>>>
>>>> That must be the answer - when installing from the Apple site, I was instructed to close Safari before installing. We have five accounts on this computer, so it's not always obvious.
>>>
>>> I'm very surprised that Software Update didn't want to restart the machine prior to installing. I thought that was pretty much SOP with most system stuff. Really never paid attention all that much but when I did, that's how SU handled it. In that case, Safari would have been closed.
>>>
>>> Harry
>>>
>>
>> In my case, Harry, using system update, it did restart the system, but I still had the problem until I closed Safari before starting the update the final time.
>>
>
> Strange behavior. I've never had that happen before. Usually after a restart, and before the install, everything is closed. I would assume that the restart process, the beginning of it, should terminate all user processes.
>
> Harry
>
That's what I thought, also. However... I did have to close Safari before the update would proceed past "running install scripts".
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Troubleshooting the boot process for Intel Macs
Posted by: "Bill B." bill501@mindspring.com kernos501
Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:37 pm (PST)
Good article from CNET detailing and troubleshooting the boot process.
<http://reviews.cnet.com/ >8301-13727_ 7-57345273- 263/troubleshoot ing-the-boot- process-for- intel-macs
Bill B
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Re: safe for the Lion ???
Posted by: "Oneal Neumann" wardell.h.s@gmail.com newalander
Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:35 pm (PST)
On this OS, unlike for Snow Leopard, I hung back on upgrading to Lion because of its perceived-by-me shortcomings. Is there any reason to hang back any longer? What 10.7 iteration is Lion at now?
Interestingly, Snow Leopard has now become glitchy on me, especially Mail, which has become quite wonky. At this point, Denver Dan would say that I need to do a clean install. How does that work? How do I effect that?
(Activity Monitor doesn� work any more and has not for a year now. My free-space fragmentation rate is 54%. I� running 10.6.8.)
Thanx. Oneal
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