12/26/2011

[macsupport] Digest Number 8644

Messages In This Digest (18 Messages)

1a.
Re: Apple & Hydrogen Fuel Cell Battery Patent From: Keith Whaley
1b.
Re: Apple & Hydrogen Fuel Cell Battery Patent From: Denver Dan
2a.
Re: iPhone Use While Out of the U.S. From: N.A. Nada
2b.
Re: iPhone Use While Out of the U.S. From: James Robertson
2c.
Re: iPhone Use While Out of the U.S. From: N.A. Nada
2d.
Re: iPhone Use While Out of the U.S. From: Michael P. Stupinski
2e.
Re: iPhone Use While Out of the U.S. From: N.A. Nada
2f.
Re: iPhone Use While Out of the U.S. From: Josephine Bacon
3a.
OT - What if... From: Noname
3b.
Re: OT - What if... From: DaveC
3c.
Re: OT - What if... From: N.A. Nada
3d.
Re: OT - What if... From: Michel Munger
3e.
Re: OT - What if... From: Denver Dan
3f.
Re: OT - What if... From: Harry Flaxman
4a.
Re: DVD Player scam/sham From: Oneal Neumann
4b.
Re: DVD Player scam/sham From: Arjun Singhal
5a.
Re: Mac and iPad/iPhone/Touch Guides From: Barbara B
6a.
Re: tape handycam to digital From: Arjun Singhal

Messages

1a.

Re: Apple & Hydrogen Fuel Cell Battery Patent

Posted by: "Keith Whaley" keith_w@dslextreme.com   keith9600

Sun Dec 25, 2011 12:03 pm (PST)



Denver Dan wrote:
> Howdy and Happy Holidays.
>
> Before going upstairs for guests and chicken gumbo, shrimp roumalade,
>

That's IT?! A teaser? Leave us sitting here drooling and shlurping?

I wish I had Smell-o-Vision!

No I don't. <g>

keith

Actually, my dinner today is going to be choice prime rib and fixins.

I'll be digesting it all at 4 in the morning!

1b.

Re: Apple & Hydrogen Fuel Cell Battery Patent

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Sun Dec 25, 2011 5:41 pm (PST)



WHOOPS!

Double WHOOPS! I resent this message, complete, and sent it to
myself. Ye Gods! I hadn't even had any champaign yet.

Accidentally hit the Send button too soon.

Howdy and Happy Holidays.

Before going upstairs for guests and chicken gumbo, shrimp remoulade,
pecan pie, Jezebel, and Jack Rose cocktails, here's an interesting
article from Huffington Post.

<http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/25/apple-hydrogen-battery-phone-computer-plan_n_1169336.html>

Apple have filed a patent on some kind of hydrogen fuel cell
technology.

Power sources for portable iOS devices and laptops???

Denver Dan

p.s. Top o the Season to all

On Sun, 25 Dec 2011 13:29:16 -0500, Denver Dan wrote:
> Howdy and Happy Holidays.

Before going upstairs for guests and chicken gumbo, shrimp roumalade,

On Sun, 25 Dec 2011 13:29:16 -0500, Denver Dan wrote:
> Howdy and Happy Holidays.
>
> Before going upstairs for guests and chicken gumbo, shrimp roumalade,
>
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2a.

Re: iPhone Use While Out of the U.S.

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Sun Dec 25, 2011 12:22 pm (PST)




On Dec 25, 2011, at 9:41 AM, Jim Saklad wrote:

> > I'm confused by what I should and should not do with my iPhone 4s settings when I go to Europe. I'm on the Verizon network, but don't plan to get their SD card for this trip, at least, since I don't anticipate making any calls while there.
> >
> > I've heard horror tales regarding exorbitant fees that could occur while there and want to avoid that problem. For example, if I leave Airplane Mode set to 'Off' would I be able to use iMessage via WiFi a hot spot without incurring charges?
>
> 1. Firstly, what you would want to do would be turn Airplane Mode ON (shutting off all radio receivers), then separately turn Wifi back ON. Keep in mind that this would leave the GPS radio OFF.
>
> 2. Unlike a Verizon iPhone 4, the Verizon 4S has a SIM card. Theoretically, you could get a SIM card from the carrier in Europe that would let you use the phone functions, but this would probably require some unlocking from Verizon.
>
> 3. You can turn cellular roaming and data roaming OFF under Settings - General - Network.

He said he was not getting the extra card from VZ, I assume it is their GSM SIM card for international travel. So he won't be able to connect by cellular to any network for voice or data. He will only be able to connect by WiFi. Turn off the roaming would just be redundant protection.

Most GPS software uses data from the network to put the map under the pins in the application, so he will probably not have maps. Unless he has a GPS app that loads the maps to the iPhone.

Basically, without turning on Airplane mode, he will have access to WiFi, GPS probably without maps, and games, music, books and movies that he has on the iPhone. Nothing that needs voice or data.

Michael, you can turn on Airplane mode and then turn WiFi on separately. That would double your protection from using voice or data by cell service, but would also turn off the GPS.

Enjoy your travel.

Brent
2b.

Re: iPhone Use While Out of the U.S.

Posted by: "James Robertson" jamesrob@sonic.net   jamesrob328i

Sun Dec 25, 2011 2:12 pm (PST)




On Dec 25, 2011, at 9:41 AM, Jim Saklad wrote:

> Unlike a Verizon iPhone 4, the Verizon 4S has a SIM card. Theoretically, you could get a SIM card from the carrier in Europe that would let you use the phone functions, but this would probably require some unlocking from Verizon.
>

Here's the (presumably) definitive answer, thanks to Google and Macworld:

> But the iPhone 4S supports both GSM and CDMA networks, and has a micro-SIM card slot no matter which carrier you subscribe to. So if you buy a phone from a CDMA carrier that doesn't use SIM cards, what's in that slot? The answer is something that's called a "roaming SIM." If you're subscribed to a CDMA carrier in the states, when you travel internationally, your device can now switch to an international GSM network using a micro-SIM card. In other words, when outside the U.S., you can still get phone calls to your regular number and connect to the Internet, thanks to a micro-SIM that connects to Sprint and Verizon's partner wireless networks in those countries—all at much higher rates than in the U.S., of course.
>
> That's essentially the experience AT&T iPhone customers have known all along. And because AT&T iPhones are locked to the micro-SIM card in the slot, when you travel overseas, you're forced to pay AT&T's roaming charges.
>
> But there's a new wrinkle that potentially makes the international-roaming experience better on Sprint and Verizon iPhones than it is on AT&T. Sprint plans to sell the iPhone 4S with its micro-SIM slot unlocked; Verizon's will be initially locked, but if you've been a customer in good standing for 60 days, you can call Verizon and ask for an "international unlock." (A Verizon spokesperson told me that this is Verizon's standard policy for all world phones—it's just the first time it's manifested itself on an iPhone.)
>
> So if you're a Sprint or Verizon iPhone 4S customer traveling internationally, you can buy a pre-paid micro-SIM card with dramatically cheaper rates for data and voice calling, rather than pay for international roaming offered by U.S. carriers to their existing customers. (The only downside is that when you're using some other carrier's micro-SIM card, you'll be using a local phone number rather than your phone's U.S. phone number–so you won't be able to receive calls unless you tell people to call the international phone number associated with your card, or use some third-party calling service like Google Voice.)
>
> Advantage: Sprint and Verizon.
>
>

So, I gave REALLY bad advice in my first reply. Apparently Vz sells the phone with a micro-sim installed that enables international roaming at VERY high prices, but when traveling in Europe, the phone's owner can get one from a local carrier as long as he's been a good Vz customer for a while.

--
Jim Robertson

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

2c.

Re: iPhone Use While Out of the U.S.

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Sun Dec 25, 2011 2:23 pm (PST)




On Dec 25, 2011, at 2:12 PM, James Robertson wrote:

> So, I gave REALLY bad advice in my first reply. Apparently Vz sells the phone with a micro-sim installed that enables international roaming at VERY high prices, but when traveling in Europe, the phone's owner can get one from a local carrier as long as he's been a good Vz customer for a while.

If that is the case, then the suggestions to turn on Airplane mode and to turn off roaming was good. You then have a PDA without GPS or maps.

Brent
2d.

Re: iPhone Use While Out of the U.S.

Posted by: "Michael P. Stupinski" mpstupinski@snet.net   mstupinski

Sun Dec 25, 2011 6:58 pm (PST)



Thanks for everyone's advice on this. Let me attempt to summarize my
understanding of what to do, and please correct me if I'm wrong.

1. Turn Airplane mode to 'On.'
2. Under Network, turn Cellular Data to 'Off, turn Voice Roaming to
'Off,' and leave Data Roaming set to 'Off' (that's how it's set now).
3. I will then not have GPS connectivity but will be safe from
unwanted cellular charges, and will still have WiFi connectivity.

Now, with the WiFi connectivity active will I be able to use iMessage
via hot spots with no charge, as I can here in the U.S.?

Thanks,
................Mike

On Dec 25, 2011, at 5:23 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:

>
> On Dec 25, 2011, at 2:12 PM, James Robertson wrote:
>
>> So, I gave REALLY bad advice in my first reply. Apparently Vz sells
>> the phone with a micro-sim installed that enables international
>> roaming at VERY high prices, but when traveling in Europe, the
>> phone's owner can get one from a local carrier as long as he's been
>> a good Vz customer for a while.
>
> If that is the case, then the suggestions to turn on Airplane mode
> and to turn off roaming was good. You then have a PDA without GPS or
> maps.
>
> Brent

2e.

Re: iPhone Use While Out of the U.S.

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Sun Dec 25, 2011 9:40 pm (PST)



Step 1.5 Turn on WiFi

On Dec 25, 2011, at 6:58 PM, Michael P. Stupinski wrote:

> Thanks for everyone's advice on this. Let me attempt to summarize my
> understanding of what to do, and please correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> 1. Turn Airplane mode to 'On.'
> 2. Under Network, turn Cellular Data to 'Off, turn Voice Roaming to
> 'Off,' and leave Data Roaming set to 'Off' (that's how it's set now).
> 3. I will then not have GPS connectivity but will be safe from
> unwanted cellular charges, and will still have WiFi connectivity.
>
> Now, with the WiFi connectivity active will I be able to use iMessage
> via hot spots with no charge, as I can here in the U.S.?

2f.

Re: iPhone Use While Out of the U.S.

Posted by: "Josephine Bacon" bacon@langservice.com   baconandeggs_2001

Mon Dec 26, 2011 12:24 am (PST)



Yes, and the most intelligent thing is to buy a new SIM card in Europe
for one of the European companies. Ever since Verizon cleverly blocked
any incoming email from someone not on your list of "friends" I have
been their sworn enemy. I wonder how many professional translators
lost valuable work thanks to Verizon thinking out of their rear ends.
Josephine Bacon
Tamr Translations
197 Kings Cross Road
London WC1X 9DB
Tel: 020 7 278 9490

3a.

OT - What if...

Posted by: "Noname" kquen2008@yahoo.com   kquen2008

Sun Dec 25, 2011 12:31 pm (PST)



This may be off topic, but it is, nonetheless, a legitimate concern.

With the cost of living on the increase and making it difficult for many to afford an Internet connection. And, with the possibility of an all-out cyber attack that would knock out huge sections, if not all of the Internet at once. What would happen (aside from the obvious economic disaster) to computer users minds and emotions should they for either reason, not have Internet access? Kathleen

3b.

Re: OT - What if...

Posted by: "DaveC" davec2468@yahoo.com   davec2468

Sun Dec 25, 2011 1:15 pm (PST)



>This may be off topic, but it is, nonetheless, a legitimate concern.
>
>With the cost of living on the increase and making it difficult for
>many to afford an Internet connection. And, with the possibility of
>an all-out cyber attack that would knock out huge sections, if not
>all of the Internet at once. What would happen (aside from the
>obvious economic disaster) to computer users minds and emotions
>should they for either reason, not have Internet access? Kathleen

We might actually have interact with our families? Talk to each other? OMG!

Happy Holidays,
Dave

3c.

Re: OT - What if...

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Sun Dec 25, 2011 2:17 pm (PST)




On Dec 25, 2011, at 1:14 PM, DaveC wrote:

> >This may be off topic, but it is, nonetheless, a legitimate concern.
> >
> >With the cost of living on the increase and making it difficult for
> >many to afford an Internet connection. And, with the possibility of
> >an all-out cyber attack that would knock out huge sections, if not
> >all of the Internet at once. What would happen (aside from the
> >obvious economic disaster) to computer users minds and emotions
> >should they for either reason, not have Internet access? Kathleen
>
> We might actually have interact with our families? Talk to each other? OMG!

It would save the US Post Office. Since telecommunications are controlled by computer and the internet. We'd have to buy stamps to pay bills, and communicate for business and personal reasons. They'd have to hand sort the mail though.

We would become immensely more productive at work.
3d.

Re: OT - What if...

Posted by: "Michel Munger" michel@macsupportcentral.com   mmungermtl

Sun Dec 25, 2011 2:28 pm (PST)



Sorry to interrupt, but please do not post off-topic messages to Mac
Support Central.

Michel (Group owner)

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Noname said:
> This may be off topic, but it is, nonetheless, a legitimate concern.
>
> With the cost of living on the increase and making it difficult for many to afford an Internet connection. And, with the possibility of an all-out cyber attack that would knock out huge sections, if not all of the Internet at once. What would happen (aside from the obvious economic disaster) to computer users minds and emotions should they for either reason, not have Internet access? Kathleen

3e.

Re: OT - What if...

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Sun Dec 25, 2011 5:48 pm (PST)



Howdy.

Here are two Wikipedia articles to read about the origins of the
Internet.

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARPA>

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet>

Much of the foundational work was centered around creating a network
that computers could use to communicate but a network designed to allow
the communication to continue even if some parts, computers,
communications paths, were destroyed in war.

DARPA was the original name of a small US agency, the Defense Advanced
Research Projects Agency.

Denver Dan

On Sun, 25 Dec 2011 20:31:27 +0000, Noname wrote:
> This may be off topic, but it is, nonetheless, a legitimate concern.
>
> With the cost of living on the increase and making it difficult for
> many to afford an Internet connection. And, with the possibility of
> an all-out cyber attack that would knock out huge sections, if not
> all of the Internet at once. What would happen (aside from the
> obvious economic disaster) to computer users minds and emotions
> should they for either reason, not have Internet access? Kathleen
>

3f.

Re: OT - What if...

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Sun Dec 25, 2011 5:51 pm (PST)



On 12/25/2011 8:48 PM, Denver Dan wrote:
> Much of the foundational work was centered around creating a network
> that computers could use to communicate but a network designed to allow
> the communication to continue even if some parts, computers,
> communications paths, were destroyed in war.

Ah, but there's the most dreaded EMP to worry about still.

Harry

4a.

Re: DVD Player scam/sham

Posted by: "Oneal Neumann" wardell.h.s@gmail.com   newalander

Sun Dec 25, 2011 4:15 pm (PST)




What up wit dis? I tried to play a Eurodisc (One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest) and was informed that I had to coordinate regions.

Region 1 was in the driver's seat. No biggie, I thought, I'll just select region 2. No could do, so I went into the question-mark zone and learned that region resetting maxes at 5.

Say what? First of all, I don't remember hitting that number. I believe that I only reset once when I was in Hungary and once when I returned to the land of hockey.

I think that the DVD restriction (for whatever reason) to FIVE resets is a rip.

Is there a workaround? Thanx. Oneal

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

4b.

Re: DVD Player scam/sham

Posted by: "Arjun Singhal" arjunsinghal@yahoo.com   arjunsinghal

Sun Dec 25, 2011 8:36 pm (PST)



Don't use the DVD Player that comes with the Mac

Under System Preferences > CDs and DVDs, select the option to ignore when you insert a Video DVD.

Use VLC to play your DVDs. That way you shouldn't need to change the region code each time, and play your DVD as universal. DVD region code gets locked at the hardware level, and cannot be removed even with a system re-install.

Hope this helps.

On 26-Dec-2011, at 4:06 AM, Oneal Neumann wrote:

>
> What up wit dis? I tried to play a Eurodisc (One Flew Over The Cuckoo‚s Nest) and was informed that I had to coordinate regions.
>
> Region 1 was in the driver‚s seat. No biggie, I thought, I‚ll just select region 2. No could do, so I went into the question-mark zone and learned that region resetting maxes at 5.
>
> Say what? First of all, I don‚t remember hitting that number. I believe that I only reset once when I was in Hungary and once when I returned to the land of hockey.
>
> I think that the DVD restriction (for whatever reason) to FIVE resets is a rip.
>
> Is there a workaround? Thanx. Oneal
>
>
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5a.

Re: Mac and iPad/iPhone/Touch Guides

Posted by: "Barbara B" bpurdy13@gmail.com   sakura1313ca

Sun Dec 25, 2011 5:42 pm (PST)



Thanks Bob and Merry Christmas to you and yours also.
Barbara from Montreal

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" <cookrd1@...> wrote:
>
> Here are some nifty guides from Lifehacker for those that got a new iDevice. Or for those like me that have owned one for a while too.
>
> New Mac guide:
> http://lifehacker.com/5717450/set-up-and-get-to-know-your-new-mac?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
>
> New iPhone/iPad/Touch guide:
> http://lifehacker.com/5717449/set-up-and-get-to-know-your-new-iphone-ipad-or-ipod-touch?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
>
> Wishing you a Merry Christmas,
> Bob
>

6a.

Re: tape handycam to digital

Posted by: "Arjun Singhal" arjunsinghal@yahoo.com   arjunsinghal

Sun Dec 25, 2011 8:41 pm (PST)



Thanks Patrick

Your effort in putting down the points is greatly appreciated. I am located in India, so I do not have many of these options available to me.

Based on the inputs I have received, I guess I have to get a new digital handycam itself and not bank upon the older outdated version

On 26-Dec-2011, at 12:58 AM, Curt Hudson wrote:

> What format is the Handycam shooting? I don't know Sonys, but if it's miniDV, all you need is a firewire connection to download direct into imovie and go from there.
>
> There are other methods for conversion and transferring to digital, but let us know how the tape records the signal first.
>
> Curt
>
>
> On Dec 25, 2011, at 1:28 PM, Arjun Singhal wrote:
>
>> Hi friends
>>
>> I am giving a little background to the problem at hand.
>>
>> I happen to be volunteering with a socio-spiritual non-profit, and I have the duty to do some photography to cover the youth-based events in the vicinity. For example, this Sunday morning, they organized a health camp in an underserved area in one of the suburbs where poor people could get a free medical checkup and medicines for basic ailments, and counseling for full treatment at subsidised costs.
>>
>> The whole mission works on the system where people contribute with their service, and we don't have funding from any financial institution. And thus, we count on resources of the volunteers, which happen to be coming from that section of society that are concerned about serving with their blood and hands.
>>
>> I use a Nikon D90 to take photographs, which are in digital format. I have a few small Sony Cybershots which are relatively recent and have full HD video recording, which one or two of the volunteers readily take up to shoot videos at the events along with photographs. Sometimes, we organize skits and street shows to create a cultural awakening in society about the issues at hand against alcohol and drug abuse.
>>
>> I must say that the D90 is good enough to take amateur photo shots of the events. But yesterday, one of our sisters suggested that we need to take on the responsibility to make videos look more appealing. I suggested we need a few more cameras at every event, to have a continuous shot at all times from different angles.
>>
>> There's one volunteer who already contributes with a digital handycam that has a hard disk in it, and records 160gigs in a straight shot. We have plenty of smaller cybershots around from a lot of people, but they suffer in quality because it is not possible to get a grasp of the device.
>>
>> I have an old Sony Handycam which I feel would up the quality of videos, but it records over tape. But we need the videos to be digital. Where I am looking for help from the group is how do you think it would be possible to convert the videos with optimal quality to digital format from the Handycam. Would it advisable to do this, or invest in a digital handycam altogether? I am holding back from buying a digital handycam, since I am saving up for a semi-pro video camera itself. The D90 for example has excellent video capture, but if I use the camera for that purpose, the stills would be lost. There is no second still camera available in our locality right now.
>>
>> Does anyone want to suggest alternatives. Please do feel welcome to write to me in person if you like. I am not very savvy with the groups on these topics, so if someone wants to suggest me a group, I'd be happy to float this over there
>>
>> Regards,
>> Arjun
>>
>>
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