12/25/2011

[macsupport] Digest Number 8643

Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)

1a.
Re: Intel Core i7 From: rmccamargo
1b.
Re: Intel Core i7 From: pat412255
2a.
Re: Testing websites for IE on Mac From: Tod Hopkins
2b.
Re: Testing websites for IE on Mac From: Arjun Singhal
2c.
Re: Testing websites for IE on Mac From: James Robertson
3a.
iPhone Use While Out of the U.S. From: mpstupinski@snet.net
3b.
Re: iPhone Use While Out of the U.S. From: Arjun Singhal
3c.
Re: iPhone Use While Out of the U.S. From: James Robertson
3d.
Re: iPhone Use While Out of the U.S. From: Michael P. Stupinski
3e.
Re: iPhone Use While Out of the U.S. From: Michael P. Stupinski
3f.
Re: iPhone Use While Out of the U.S. From: Jim Saklad
4a.
Re: Update Re: [macsupport] My desktop scrambles all files on start From: Tim O'Donoghue
5a.
URGENT: Full restore from TM to a different Startup drive in 10.6.8 From: Bill B.
5b.
Re: URGENT: Full restore from TM to a different Startup drive in  10 From: Barry Austern
5c.
Re: URGENT: Full restore from TM to a different Startup drive in  10 From: Bill B.
6.
Mac and iPad/iPhone/Touch Guides From: Robert
7a.
Using "Grab" in Lion Full Screen Apps? From: James Robertson
7b.
Re: Using "Grab" in Lion Full Screen Apps? From: John Ross
7c.
Re: Using "Grab" in Lion Full Screen Apps? From: Harry Flaxman
7d.
Re: Using "Grab" in Lion Full Screen Apps? From: James Robertson
7e.
Re: Using "Grab" in Lion Full Screen Apps? From: Harry Flaxman
7f.
Re: Using "Grab" in Lion Full Screen Apps? From: Barry Austern
8a.
tape handycam to digital From: Arjun Singhal
8b.
Re: tape handycam to digital From: Curt Hudson
9.
Apple & Hydrogen Fuel Cell Battery Patent From: Denver Dan

Messages

1a.

Re: Intel Core i7

Posted by: "rmccamargo" mccamargo.regina@gmail.com   rmccamargo

Sun Dec 25, 2011 5:30 am (PST)



Hi,
And what about for the iMac 20"?

Thank you all for the precious information and tips I get here on the list. You're the best.

---
Regina Camargo
São Paulo, Brasil

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Harry Flaxman <harry.flaxman@...> wrote:
>
> On 12/24/2011 8:56 PM, Michael Moloney wrote:
> > Just wondering if the Core i7 is available for the iMac 21" ???
> Absolutely, as Jim points out.
>
> And worth EVERY penny of it!
>
> Harry
>

1b.

Re: Intel Core i7

Posted by: "pat412255" pat412@mac.com   pat412255

Sun Dec 25, 2011 6:01 am (PST)




I second Harry's opinion.

Pat
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Harry Flaxman <harry.flaxman@...> wrote:
>
> On 12/24/2011 8:56 PM, Michael Moloney wrote:
> > Just wondering if the Core i7 is available for the iMac 21" ???
> Absolutely, as Jim points out.
>
> And worth EVERY penny of it!
>
> Harry
>

2a.

Re: Testing websites for IE on Mac

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Sun Dec 25, 2011 6:14 am (PST)



I can't see that any test not properly booted into Windows is a real test. Even cross platform apps like Firefox are not 100% compatible on the two platforms.

tod

On Dec 23, 2011, at 11:54 AM, Arjun Singhal wrote:

> Hi All
>
> I was working to re-design our website during the last few days and I was using a micro sized windows laptop along with my new Macbook Pro, while writing code, to ensure it was looking okay in Internet Explorer. (We just did a re-design after a serious spam attack, and the new design bombed out on IE).
>
> Is there a good solution to testing the site for IE on a Mac? I do not want to run VM Ware all the time, because Windows is resource heavy - and it literally drains the battery if you're not plugged in.
>
> Regards,
> Arjun
>
>

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com

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2b.

Re: Testing websites for IE on Mac

Posted by: "Arjun Singhal" arjunsinghal@yahoo.com   arjunsinghal

Sun Dec 25, 2011 6:36 am (PST)



Thanks Tod for your inputs there.

Just for kicks, I ran a test on the favorite website of this group with the w3c validator.

www.apple.com returns 3 errors and 1 warning
www.apple.com/startpage returns 9 errors and 1 warning

i also tried opening the startpage on internet explorer, with the latest version of Java installed, and the page loads with errors on IE 8 and IE 9.

there are numerous ways of detecting what browser a user is accessing the site from, and you can possibly redirect the user to another site, but that would be an extreme step, because one would have to replicate every element and functionality, and it would also mean that your analytics will need to be captured in different places, and if your implementation isn't perfect, your users would be viewing different content, especially for make-on-the-fly pages.

before i stepped into this industry, i had only read about developer's nightmares of making things compatible with IE, but now i know that IE is not pain in the neck for creativity, it is a twisted stranglehold that can kill the offspring of any web product.

I remember my days using windows mobile, when we didn't have androids and iphones, and they were "ugly" as smart phones. Not that I have much regard for androids because they are confusing to buy, and in my opinion a cheap imitation as most users of the fanciest androids will say, "just like iPhone", i still include them in my expression here.

its like defining confidence intervals and errors for statistical reasoning. and how much i hate those number games. hope i got my point across.

appreciating again all other contributions to the thread. its made my experience of the group so lively.

regards,
arjun
blowtrumpet.com

On 25-Dec-2011, at 7:44 PM, Tod Hopkins wrote:

> I can't see that any test not properly booted into Windows is a real test. Even cross platform apps like Firefox are not 100% compatible on the two platforms.
>
> tod
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>
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> On Dec 23, 2011, at 11:54 AM, Arjun Singhal wrote:
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>> Hi All
>>
>> I was working to re-design our website during the last few days and I was using a micro sized windows laptop along with my new Macbook Pro, while writing code, to ensure it was looking okay in Internet Explorer. (We just did a re-design after a serious spam attack, and the new design bombed out on IE).
>>
>> Is there a good solution to testing the site for IE on a Mac? I do not want to run VM Ware all the time, because Windows is resource heavy - and it literally drains the battery if you're not plugged in.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Arjun
>>
>>
>
> Tod Hopkins
> Hillmann & Carr Inc.
> todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com
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2c.

Re: Testing websites for IE on Mac

Posted by: "James Robertson" jamesrob@sonic.net   jamesrob328i

Sun Dec 25, 2011 7:26 am (PST)




On Dec 25, 2011, at 6:36 AM, Arjun Singhal wrote:

> there are numerous ways of detecting what browser a user is accessing the site from, and you can possibly redirect the user to another site, but that would be an extreme step, because one would have to replicate every element and functionality, and it would also mean that your analytics will need to be captured in different places, and if your implementation isn't perfect, your users would be viewing different content, especially for make-on-the-fly pages.

High-end web development packages used to contain (and maybe still do ) encapsulated "environments" so that one could "see" what one's html looked like in different browsers. I don't know how faithfully they mimic the foibles of every browser, but I'd predict there would be lots of holes in their implementations, if for no other reason than that all the browser developers are continuously "refining" or mucking up their products.

And this isn't limited to browsers. html mail created in Apple's mail.app often looks horrible in Outlook for Windows, and the Microsoft developers can't get their own products to behave consistently. For example, I have an Exchange 2007 Server. If I send some fancy mail from Apple's mail.app (prettied up using one of Jumsoft's amazing email templates) through my Exchange Server to people who use Windows Outlook as their email client, what they see is often quite different from what I sent. Yet, if they use "Outlook Web Access" (in Internet Explorer or in Safari) to read their mail, it's MUCH closer to what I intended to send.

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Jim Robertson

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3a.

iPhone Use While Out of the U.S.

Posted by: "mpstupinski@snet.net" mpstupinski@snet.net   mstupinski

Sun Dec 25, 2011 6:31 am (PST)



I'm confused by what I should and should not do with my iPhone 4s settings when I go to Europe. I'm on the Verizon network, but don't plan to get their SD card for this trip, at least, since I don't anticipate making any calls while there.

I've heard horror tales regarding exorbitant fees that could occur while there and want to avoid that problem. For example, if I leave Airplane Mode set to 'Off' would I be able to use iMessage via WiFi a hot spot without incurring charges?

Advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
...............Mike

And Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays to all!

3b.

Re: iPhone Use While Out of the U.S.

Posted by: "Arjun Singhal" arjunsinghal@yahoo.com   arjunsinghal

Sun Dec 25, 2011 7:26 am (PST)



if you just want to use wi-fi for iMessage, i'd suggest put the airplane mode to "On", then go into wi-fi settings and turn off wi-fi explicitly. that would prevent your phone from using the cellular carrier network on roaming and only hook onto wi-fi hot spots. you should be able to use iMessage and other internet based services, if your account servers don't require you to be logged on using 3G

Regards,
Arjun
blowtrumpet.com

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On 25-Dec-2011, at 8:01 PM, mpstupinski@snet.net wrote:

> I'm confused by what I should and should not do with my iPhone 4s settings when I go to Europe. I'm on the Verizon network, but don't plan to get their SD card for this trip, at least, since I don't anticipate making any calls while there.
>
> I've heard horror tales regarding exorbitant fees that could occur while there and want to avoid that problem. For example, if I leave Airplane Mode set to 'Off' would I be able to use iMessage via WiFi a hot spot without incurring charges?
>
> Advice would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> ...............Mike
>
> And Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays to all!
>
>

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3c.

Re: iPhone Use While Out of the U.S.

Posted by: "James Robertson" jamesrob@sonic.net   jamesrob328i

Sun Dec 25, 2011 7:32 am (PST)




On Dec 25, 2011, at 6:31 AM, mpstupinski@snet.net wrote:

> I'm confused by what I should and should not do with my iPhone 4s settings when I go to Europe. I'm on the Verizon network, but don't plan to get their SD card for this trip, at least, since I don't anticipate making any calls while there.

Isn't all of Europe GSM? Aren't Verzson iPhone 4s units locked to its CDMA network and incapable of roaming on GSM netwworks unless one inserts a SIM card?

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Jim Robertson

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3d.

Re: iPhone Use While Out of the U.S.

Posted by: "Michael P. Stupinski" mpstupinski@snet.net   mstupinski

Sun Dec 25, 2011 7:38 am (PST)



You are right, Arjun, and I meant to say "...leave Airplane Mode set
to "On...". I'm still confused about the WiFi setting, though. If I
turn WiFi off I don't see how I could connect to a hot spot. Are you
saying that Airplane Mode allows that?

Thanks,
...................Mike

On Dec 25, 2011, at 10:26 AM, Arjun Singhal wrote:

> if you just want to use wi-fi for iMessage, i'd suggest put the
> airplane mode to "On", then go into wi-fi settings and turn off wi-
> fi explicitly. that would prevent your phone from using the cellular
> carrier network on roaming and only hook onto wi-fi hot spots. you
> should be able to use iMessage and other internet based services, if
> your account servers don't require you to be logged on using 3G
>
> Regards,
> Arjun
> blowtrumpet.com
>
> Join us on facebook.com/blowtrumpet and follows @blowtrumpet on
> twitter
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> On 25-Dec-2011, at 8:01 PM, mpstupinski@snet.net wrote:
>
>> I'm confused by what I should and should not do with my iPhone 4s
>> settings when I go to Europe. I'm on the Verizon network, but don't
>> plan to get their SD card for this trip, at least, since I don't
>> anticipate making any calls while there.
>>
>> I've heard horror tales regarding exorbitant fees that could occur
>> while there and want to avoid that problem. For example, if I leave
>> Airplane Mode set to 'Off' would I be able to use iMessage via WiFi
>> a hot spot without incurring charges?
>>
>> Advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> ...............Mike
>>
>> And Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays to all!
>>
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Re: iPhone Use While Out of the U.S.

Posted by: "Michael P. Stupinski" mpstupinski@snet.net   mstupinski

Sun Dec 25, 2011 7:42 am (PST)



I vaguely suspected that without a SIM card I wouldn't have a problem
with roaming on GSM, Jim, but I'm don't know enough about the subject
to be sure. I also didn't want to chance it, because I'm not sure
there aren't any other networks there that would allow my Verizon
phone to connect.

Thanks,
.................Mike

On Dec 25, 2011, at 10:32 AM, James Robertson wrote:

>
> On Dec 25, 2011, at 6:31 AM, mpstupinski@snet.net wrote:
>
>> I'm confused by what I should and should not do with my iPhone 4s
>> settings when I go to Europe. I'm on the Verizon network, but don't
>> plan to get their SD card for this trip, at least, since I don't
>> anticipate making any calls while there.
>
> Isn't all of Europe GSM? Aren't Verzson iPhone 4s units locked to
> its CDMA network and incapable of roaming on GSM netwworks unless
> one inserts a SIM card?
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Re: iPhone Use While Out of the U.S.

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sun Dec 25, 2011 9:42 am (PST)



> I'm confused by what I should and should not do with my iPhone 4s settings when I go to Europe. I'm on the Verizon network, but don't plan to get their SD card for this trip, at least, since I don't anticipate making any calls while there.
>
> I've heard horror tales regarding exorbitant fees that could occur while there and want to avoid that problem. For example, if I leave Airplane Mode set to 'Off' would I be able to use iMessage via WiFi a hot spot without incurring charges?

1. Firstly, what you would want to do would be turn Airplane Mode ON (shutting off all radio receivers), then separately turn Wifi back ON. Keep in mind that this would leave the GPS radio OFF.

2. Unlike a Verizon iPhone 4, the Verizon 4S has a SIM card. Theoretically, you could get a SIM card from the carrier in Europe that would let you use the phone functions, but this would probably require some unlocking from Verizon.

3. You can turn cellular roaming and data roaming OFF under Settings - General - Network.

4a.

Re: Update Re: [macsupport] My desktop scrambles all files on start

Posted by: "Tim O'Donoghue" tjod@drizzle.net   timodonoghue

Sun Dec 25, 2011 6:41 am (PST)



Actually, I did read the comments. While it seems it did not work for some people, it worked for others. It's too bad I didn't have a complete list of things you had tried to compare it with before I tried to assist. Sorry to have wasted your time.

On Dec 25, 2011, at 12:11 AM, Larson wrote:

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> On 24.12.2011, at 20:16, Tim O'Donoghue wrote:
>
>> Interesting.
>>
>> Apparently, 10.6.8 does not have the "None" option under the View menu directly. You need to go one more level in the View menu to "Show View Options" and select "None" from the list there.
>
> Again, read the comments on the page. This is no permanent solution to the problem.
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>
>>
>> See the screen grab on the group Files area here:
>>
>> http://goo.gl/njMuv
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> This does not seem to be a valid link, it says:
>
> "Document Not Found
> The document you requested could not be found."
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>
>>
>> I confirmed that this works on my 10.6.8 Snow Leopard server version. Hopefully it carries over to the standard 10.6.8 as well
>
> All versions I have used (from Tiger to Lion) are affected. Wait approximately 3 weeks and tell us then if it really works. It happens irregularly, by me usually at least once a week, especially after I have downloaded a large number of files simultaneously from the Internet. I cannot reproduce it.
>
>
> Anna
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>> On Dec 24, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Tim O'Donoghue wrote:
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>>> This article appears to describe your situation, and at least one way to repair it:
>>>
>>> http://goo.gl/6HEpl
>>>
>>> Tim
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5a.

URGENT: Full restore from TM to a different Startup drive in 10.6.8

Posted by: "Bill B." bill501@mindspring.com   kernos501

Sun Dec 25, 2011 7:36 am (PST)



Great Xmas present this AM. My new MBPro HD just had a hard head crash on the internal HDD. How can I do a full restore or even just a User folder restore to my old MBPro from the Time Machine back up of the new? Do I need a 3rd party utility?

I'm using 10.6.8. The drive IS dead.

TIA,

Bill

5b.

Re: URGENT: Full restore from TM to a different Startup drive in  10

Posted by: "Barry Austern" barryaus@fuse.net   barryaus

Sun Dec 25, 2011 10:00 am (PST)



At 9:36 AM -0600 12/25/11, Bill B. wrote:

>
>Great Xmas present this AM. My new MBPro HD just had a hard head
>crash on the internal HDD. How can I do a full restore or even just
>a User folder restore to my old MBPro from the Time Machine back up
>of the new? Do I need a 3rd party utility?
>
>I'm using 10.6.8. The drive IS dead.

The easiest way would be to boot from the clone that you had made
from SuperDuper or Carbon Copy Cloner (hint, hint) :-) Seriously,
the exact thing happened to me about August or September. My iMac's
hard drive died and Apple replaced it under Apple Care warranty. I
got it back as if it were a new machine, going into the "Welcome"
video when I first turned it on (as they said I would get it.) A
Migration Assistant restore from Time Machine got it running again
with probably about 95% of what it was. A few things had to be
redone, such as printer drivers and serial numbers. The worst one was
Micro$oft Orifice 2011, as it told me I had already used up my valid
number of licenses. Took a few calls to Micro$oft and the sacrifice
of a few chickens to Bill Gates (well, not that last part, really)
for them to relent and give me a number that would work.
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net

5c.

Re: URGENT: Full restore from TM to a different Startup drive in  10

Posted by: "Bill B." bill501@mindspring.com   kernos501

Sun Dec 25, 2011 10:35 am (PST)



At 9:36 AM -0600 12/25/11, Bill B. wrote:
>Great Xmas present this AM. My new MBPro HD just had a hard head crash on the internal HDD. How can I do a full restore or even just a User folder restore to my old MBPro from the Time Machine back up of the new? Do I need a 3rd party utility?
>
>I'm using 10.6.8. The drive IS dead.

Never mind, I figured it out: Start up from the SL DVD.

Bill

6.

Mac and iPad/iPhone/Touch Guides

Posted by: "Robert" cookrd1@discoveryowners.com   cookrd1

Sun Dec 25, 2011 7:39 am (PST)



Here are some nifty guides from Lifehacker for those that got a new iDevice. Or for those like me that have owned one for a while too.

New Mac guide:
http://lifehacker.com/5717450/set-up-and-get-to-know-your-new-mac?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews

New iPhone/iPad/Touch guide:
http://lifehacker.com/5717449/set-up-and-get-to-know-your-new-iphone-ipad-or-ipod-touch?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews

Wishing you a Merry Christmas,
Bob

7a.

Using "Grab" in Lion Full Screen Apps?

Posted by: "James Robertson" jamesrob@sonic.net   jamesrob328i

Sun Dec 25, 2011 7:52 am (PST)



I just tried to use Grab to copy a portion of a Safari Window (it's actually a popup "windowlet" that Grab doesn't seem to think of as an independent Window, because if I click on it, Grab captures the entire Safari Window, including what's behind the popup).

In order to display the entire popup on my 15" MacBook Pro, I need to go full screen in Safari (which of course also hides the dock). Grab can't "live" on the same Lion desktop as a full screen app, so I can't figure out a way to capture JUST the entire popup image.

Any ideas?

If you need to replicate my effort, it's a New Yorker cartoon, and you can surf to

<http://www.condenaststore.com/-sp/You-haven-t-enjoyed-the-Yule-log-till-you-ve-enjoyed-it-in-high-def-New-Yorker-Cartoon-Prints_i8481320_.htm?utm_medium=email&utm_content=4290368&utm_campaign=201112-HappyHolidays-TNYS&utm_source=TNYS-Customers>

to try it.

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Jim Robertson

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7b.

Re: Using "Grab" in Lion Full Screen Apps?

Posted by: "John Ross" johnaross@mac.com   john_a_ross

Sun Dec 25, 2011 7:57 am (PST)



You need "Screenshot Plus" a free widget.

On 25 Dec 2011, at 15:52, James Robertson wrote:

> I just tried to use Grab to copy a portion of a Safari Window (it's actually a popup "windowlet" that Grab doesn't seem to think of as an independent Window, because if I click on it, Grab captures the entire Safari Window, including what's behind the popup).
>
> In order to display the entire popup on my 15" MacBook Pro, I need to go full screen in Safari (which of course also hides the dock). Grab can't "live" on the same Lion desktop as a full screen app, so I can't figure out a way to capture JUST the entire popup image.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> If you need to replicate my effort, it's a New Yorker cartoon, and you can surf to
>
> <http://www.condenaststore.com/-sp/You-haven-t-enjoyed-the-Yule-log-till-you-ve-enjoyed-it-in-high-def-New-Yorker-Cartoon-Prints_i8481320_.htm?utm_medium=email&utm_content=4290368&utm_campaign=201112-HappyHolidays-TNYS&utm_source=TNYS-Customers>
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> to try it.
>
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7c.

Re: Using "Grab" in Lion Full Screen Apps?

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Sun Dec 25, 2011 8:25 am (PST)



On 12/25/2011 10:52 AM, James Robertson wrote:
> I just tried to use Grab to copy a portion of a Safari Window (it's actually a popup "windowlet" that Grab doesn't seem to think of as an independent Window, because if I click on it, Grab captures the entire Safari Window, including what's behind the popup).
>
> In order to display the entire popup on my 15" MacBook Pro, I need to go full screen in Safari (which of course also hides the dock). Grab can't "live" on the same Lion desktop as a full screen app, so I can't figure out a way to capture JUST the entire popup image.
Have you tried the native screen grab commands? shift-cmd-4 for a
select area or shift-cmd-3 for full screen?

Harry

7d.

Re: Using "Grab" in Lion Full Screen Apps?

Posted by: "James Robertson" jamesrob@sonic.net   jamesrob328i

Sun Dec 25, 2011 8:58 am (PST)




On Dec 25, 2011, at 8:25 AM, Harry Flaxman wrote:

> Have you tried the native screen grab commands? shift-cmd-4 for a
> select area or shift-cmd-3 for full screen?
>
> Harry
>
>
>
>
That worked, but for some reason hadn't when I tried it earlier. Still, grab offers some configurability, and it looks as though Apple didn't think this little wrinkle through as well as they might have when fine-tuning the Lion UI.

--
Jim Robertson

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Re: Using "Grab" in Lion Full Screen Apps?

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Sun Dec 25, 2011 9:21 am (PST)



On 12/25/2011 11:58 AM, James Robertson wrote:
> On Dec 25, 2011, at 8:25 AM, Harry Flaxman wrote:
>
>> > Have you tried the native screen grab commands? shift-cmd-4 for a
>> > select area or shift-cmd-3 for full screen?
>> >
>> > Harry
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
> That worked, but for some reason hadn't when I tried it earlier. Still, grab offers some configurability, and it looks as though Apple didn't think this little wrinkle through as well as they might have when fine-tuning the Lion UI.

I always use those commands and haven't ever used Grab. Just prefer to
use native commands without having to open an application.

Glad it worked!

Harry

7f.

Re: Using "Grab" in Lion Full Screen Apps?

Posted by: "Barry Austern" barryaus@fuse.net   barryaus

Sun Dec 25, 2011 10:00 am (PST)



At 7:52 AM -0800 12/25/11, James Robertson wrote:

>
>
>I just tried to use Grab to copy a portion of a Safari Window (it's
>actually a popup "windowlet" that Grab doesn't seem to think of as
>an independent Window, because if I click on it, Grab captures the
>entire Safari Window, including what's behind the popup).
>
>In order to display the entire popup on my 15" MacBook Pro, I need
>to go full screen in Safari (which of course also hides the dock).
>Grab can't "live" on the same Lion desktop as a full screen app, so
>I can't figure out a way to capture JUST the entire popup image.
>
>Any ideas?

Being an old timer, I've never used Grab, as I consider it
superfluous. What does it do that command-shift-4 does not do? Have
you tried that to do a screen capture?
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net

8a.

tape handycam to digital

Posted by: "Arjun Singhal" arjunsinghal@yahoo.com   arjunsinghal

Sun Dec 25, 2011 10:28 am (PST)



Hi friends

I am giving a little background to the problem at hand.

I happen to be volunteering with a socio-spiritual non-profit, and I have the duty to do some photography to cover the youth-based events in the vicinity. For example, this Sunday morning, they organized a health camp in an underserved area in one of the suburbs where poor people could get a free medical checkup and medicines for basic ailments, and counseling for full treatment at subsidised costs.

The whole mission works on the system where people contribute with their service, and we don't have funding from any financial institution. And thus, we count on resources of the volunteers, which happen to be coming from that section of society that are concerned about serving with their blood and hands.

I use a Nikon D90 to take photographs, which are in digital format. I have a few small Sony Cybershots which are relatively recent and have full HD video recording, which one or two of the volunteers readily take up to shoot videos at the events along with photographs. Sometimes, we organize skits and street shows to create a cultural awakening in society about the issues at hand against alcohol and drug abuse.

I must say that the D90 is good enough to take amateur photo shots of the events. But yesterday, one of our sisters suggested that we need to take on the responsibility to make videos look more appealing. I suggested we need a few more cameras at every event, to have a continuous shot at all times from different angles.

There's one volunteer who already contributes with a digital handycam that has a hard disk in it, and records 160gigs in a straight shot. We have plenty of smaller cybershots around from a lot of people, but they suffer in quality because it is not possible to get a grasp of the device.

I have an old Sony Handycam which I feel would up the quality of videos, but it records over tape. But we need the videos to be digital. Where I am looking for help from the group is how do you think it would be possible to convert the videos with optimal quality to digital format from the Handycam. Would it advisable to do this, or invest in a digital handycam altogether? I am holding back from buying a digital handycam, since I am saving up for a semi-pro video camera itself. The D90 for example has excellent video capture, but if I use the camera for that purpose, the stills would be lost. There is no second still camera available in our locality right now.

Does anyone want to suggest alternatives. Please do feel welcome to write to me in person if you like. I am not very savvy with the groups on these topics, so if someone wants to suggest me a group, I'd be happy to float this over there

Regards,
Arjun

8b.

Re: tape handycam to digital

Posted by: "Curt Hudson" curt183@snip.net   orion183

Sun Dec 25, 2011 11:28 am (PST)



What format is the Handycam shooting? I don't know Sonys, but if it's miniDV, all you need is a firewire connection to download direct into imovie and go from there.

There are other methods for conversion and transferring to digital, but let us know how the tape records the signal first.

Curt

On Dec 25, 2011, at 1:28 PM, Arjun Singhal wrote:

> Hi friends
>
> I am giving a little background to the problem at hand.
>
> I happen to be volunteering with a socio-spiritual non-profit, and I have the duty to do some photography to cover the youth-based events in the vicinity. For example, this Sunday morning, they organized a health camp in an underserved area in one of the suburbs where poor people could get a free medical checkup and medicines for basic ailments, and counseling for full treatment at subsidised costs.
>
> The whole mission works on the system where people contribute with their service, and we don't have funding from any financial institution. And thus, we count on resources of the volunteers, which happen to be coming from that section of society that are concerned about serving with their blood and hands.
>
> I use a Nikon D90 to take photographs, which are in digital format. I have a few small Sony Cybershots which are relatively recent and have full HD video recording, which one or two of the volunteers readily take up to shoot videos at the events along with photographs. Sometimes, we organize skits and street shows to create a cultural awakening in society about the issues at hand against alcohol and drug abuse.
>
> I must say that the D90 is good enough to take amateur photo shots of the events. But yesterday, one of our sisters suggested that we need to take on the responsibility to make videos look more appealing. I suggested we need a few more cameras at every event, to have a continuous shot at all times from different angles.
>
> There's one volunteer who already contributes with a digital handycam that has a hard disk in it, and records 160gigs in a straight shot. We have plenty of smaller cybershots around from a lot of people, but they suffer in quality because it is not possible to get a grasp of the device.
>
> I have an old Sony Handycam which I feel would up the quality of videos, but it records over tape. But we need the videos to be digital. Where I am looking for help from the group is how do you think it would be possible to convert the videos with optimal quality to digital format from the Handycam. Would it advisable to do this, or invest in a digital handycam altogether? I am holding back from buying a digital handycam, since I am saving up for a semi-pro video camera itself. The D90 for example has excellent video capture, but if I use the camera for that purpose, the stills would be lost. There is no second still camera available in our locality right now.
>
> Does anyone want to suggest alternatives. Please do feel welcome to write to me in person if you like. I am not very savvy with the groups on these topics, so if someone wants to suggest me a group, I'd be happy to float this over there
>
> Regards,
> Arjun
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

9.

Apple & Hydrogen Fuel Cell Battery Patent

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Sun Dec 25, 2011 10:29 am (PST)



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