Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)
- 1a.
- Re: Update Re: [macsupport] My desktop scrambles all files on start From: Larson
- 2a.
- Used iMac From: Elaine Pollard
- 2b.
- Re: Used iMac From: Josephine Bacon
- 2c.
- Re: Used iMac From: John Ross
- 2d.
- Re: Used iMac From: OBrien
- 2e.
- Re: Used iMac From: Larson
- 2f.
- Re: Used iMac From: OBrien
- 2g.
- Re: Used iMac From: OBrien
- 2h.
- Re: Used iMac From: Elaine Pollard
- 2i.
- Re: Used iMac From: Elaine Pollard
- 2j.
- Re: Used iMac From: Jeannie
- 2k.
- Re: Used iMac From: OBrien
- 2l.
- Re: Used iMac From: Barry Austern
- 2m.
- Re: Used iMac From: N.A. Nada
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- Learn about reading your Firewall log From: Denver Dan
- 4a.
- Easter Egg - Knock Knock From: Denver Dan
- 4b.
- Re: Easter Egg - Knock Knock From: Harry Flaxman
- 4c.
- Re: Easter Egg - Knock Knock From: Denver Dan
- 4d.
- Re: Easter Egg - Knock Knock From: Harry Flaxman
- 5a.
- Re: iMessage - turning off? From: N.A. Nada
- 5b.
- Re: iMessage - turning off? From: Arjun Singhal
- 5c.
- Re: iMessage - turning off? From: N.A. Nada
- 5d.
- Re: iMessage - turning off? From: Harry Flaxman
- 5e.
- Re: iMessage - turning off? From: Arjun Singhal
- 5f.
- Re: iMessage - turning off? From: N.A. Nada
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Re: Update Re: [macsupport] My desktop scrambles all files on start
Posted by: "Larson" pix@maksimo.de yovard@ymail.com
Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:28 am (PST)
On 25.12.2011, at 15:41, Tim O'Donoghue wrote:
> Actually, I did read the comments. While it seems it did not work for some people, it worked for others.
Well, the overwhelming majority agreed and said quite unmistakably that it does not work. Only 2 comments were affirmative whereas 9 were absolutely negative, and the rest can not be classified.
> It's too bad I didn't have a complete list of things you had tried to compare it with before I tried to assist.
Originally I provided this link, it comprises 3 full pages and describes the problem accurately:
<https://discussions.apple.com/ >message/15779186 #15779186
My question on the macsupportcentral list was actually aimed at the *Terminal code* given on the above mentioned page. The guy who provided it originally mucked up the command and then corrected it later. So, in other words, my question was: Is the correction correct? I'm not familiar with the Terminal commands and that seems to apply to all the other list members here too because I got no reply. But that's not relevant anymore because I now just use "Find Any File" (<http://apps.tempel.org/ >) to quickly delete the hidden ..DS_Store file in the Desktop folder. That fixes the problem for a few days … albeit not permanently.FindAnyFile/
Thanks for your contribution and Happy New Year to everyone on the list!
Anna
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> On Dec 25, 2011, at 12:11 AM, Larson wrote:
>
>>
>> On 24.12.2011, at 20:16, Tim O'Donoghue wrote:
>>
>>> Interesting.
>>>
>>> Apparently, 10.6.8 does not have the "None" option under the View menu directly. You need to go one more level in the View menu to "Show View Options" and select "None" from the list there.
>>
>> Again, read the comments on the page. This is no permanent solution to the problem.
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Used iMac
Posted by: "Elaine Pollard" elainepollard@gmail.com lainey_68
Wed Dec 28, 2011 7:44 am (PST)
Hello everyone:
I believe someone asked a similar question awhile back, but I'm not sure.
At any rate, I am considering purchasing a used iMac. It would be used so
that my daughter can do homework and surf the Internet. Although I used to
be pretty Mac proficient, I haven't used one in about 15 or more years.
However, I have had so many PC problems that I am fed up. These are the
specs of the machine I'm looking at:
Model Name: iMac
Model Identifier: iMac4,1
Processor Name: Intel Core Duo
Processor Speed: 1.83 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 2 MB
Memory: 1 GB
Bus Speed: 667 MHz
I think the guy is selling it for about $100--is this a good deal? Is it
worth it? I just cannot afford to shell out a few thousand for a new
machine. Thanks for any input!
Elaine
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Re: Used iMac
Posted by: "Josephine Bacon" bacon@langservice.com baconandeggs_2001
Wed Dec 28, 2011 7:54 am (PST)
If it is working it sounds like a good deal to me.
Josephine Bacon
Tamr Translations
197 Kings Cross Road
London WC1X 9DB
Tel: 020 7 278 9490
On 28 Dec 2011, at 15:44, Elaine Pollard wrote:
> Hello everyone:
>
> I believe someone asked a similar question awhile back, but I'm not
> sure.
> At any rate, I am considering purchasing a used iMac. It would be
> used so
> that my daughter can do homework and surf the Internet. Although I
> used to
> be pretty Mac proficient, I haven't used one in about 15 or more
> years.
> However, I have had so many PC problems that I am fed up. These are
> the
> specs of the machine I'm looking at:
>
> Model Name: iMac
> Model Identifier: iMac4,1
> Processor Name: Intel Core Duo
> Processor Speed: 1.83 GHz
> Number Of Processors: 1
> Total Number Of Cores: 2
> L2 Cache: 2 MB
> Memory: 1 GB
> Bus Speed: 667 MHz
>
> I think the guy is selling it for about $100--is this a good deal?
> Is it
> worth it? I just cannot afford to shell out a few thousand for a new
> machine. Thanks for any input!
>
> Elaine
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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Re: Used iMac
Posted by: "John Ross" johnaross@mac.com john_a_ross
Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:03 am (PST)
Elaine,
The price sounds good, but be aware that it won't run Lion (SL at best), ie. it is not future proof against operating system support for security updates, etc.
John.
On 28 Dec 2011, at 15:44, Elaine Pollard wrote:
> Hello everyone:
>
> I believe someone asked a similar question awhile back, but I'm not sure.
> At any rate, I am considering purchasing a used iMac. It would be used so
> that my daughter can do homework and surf the Internet. Although I used to
> be pretty Mac proficient, I haven't used one in about 15 or more years.
> However, I have had so many PC problems that I am fed up. These are the
> specs of the machine I'm looking at:
>
> Model Name: iMac
> Model Identifier: iMac4,1
> Processor Name: Intel Core Duo
> Processor Speed: 1.83 GHz
> Number Of Processors: 1
> Total Number Of Cores: 2
> L2 Cache: 2 MB
> Memory: 1 GB
> Bus Speed: 667 MHz
>
> I think the guy is selling it for about $100--is this a good deal? Is it
> worth it? I just cannot afford to shell out a few thousand for a new
> machine. Thanks for any input!
>
> Elaine
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsupportcentral. >com/policies/
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: Used iMac
Posted by: "OBrien" bco@hiwaay.net conorboru
Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:25 am (PST)
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 10:44:03 -0500, Elaine Pollard wrote:
> I think the guy is selling it for about $100--is this a good deal? Is it
> worth it?
It sounds like a great deal, if it's in good condition...it should include the system discs. It could stand to have another MB of RAM.
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Re: Used iMac
Posted by: "Larson" pix@maksimo.de yovard@ymail.com
Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:54 am (PST)
On 28.12.2011, at 17:03, John Ross wrote:
> Elaine,
>
> The price sounds good, but be aware that it won‚t run Lion (SL at best)
She does probably not need Lion or Snow Leopard to do just her homework and surf the Internet.
>> It would be used so
>> that my daughter can do homework and surf the Internet.
Elaine, you did not say how old your daughter is and what kind of software she will be using. That may be an equally important question.
Regarding the price try this site ...
http://www.mac2sell.net/
You forgot to mention the display and the hard disk size, both very important for the price calculation.
What OS version does the computer have?
>> Although I used to
>> be pretty Mac proficient, I haven't used one in about 15 or more years.
Then you will not recognize the OS anymore, OS X is a completely new, very complex operating system and you have to learn most things again from scratch.
>> However, I have had so many PC problems that I am fed up.
What problems have you had?
Anna
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>> These are the
>> specs of the machine I'm looking at:
>>
>> Model Name: iMac
>> Model Identifier: iMac4,1
>> Processor Name: Intel Core Duo
>> Processor Speed: 1.83 GHz
>> Number Of Processors: 1
>> Total Number Of Cores: 2
>> L2 Cache: 2 MB
>> Memory: 1 GB
>> Bus Speed: 667 MHz
>>
>> I think the guy is selling it for about $100
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Re: Used iMac
Posted by: "OBrien" bco@hiwaay.net conorboru
Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:15 am (PST)
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 17:54:41 +0100, Larson wrote:
> Then you will not recognize the OS anymore, OS X is a completely
> new, very complex operating system and you have to learn most
> things again from scratch.
Well...OSX +is+ very (but not completely) different from Sys9, but I wouldn't say that it's all that difficult to learn to use. Much of it is quite like Sys9, such as directories, folders, keyboard commands, etc. It's very intuitive, just like Macs have always been. When I switched from 9 to X, I had no problem at all...easy.
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O'Brien ¡V¡V¡V ¡V... .-. .. . -. - 2g.
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Re: Used iMac
Posted by: "OBrien" bco@hiwaay.net conorboru
Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:16 am (PST)
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 11:15:27 -0600, OBrien wrote:
> ...It's very intuitive, just like Macs have always been. When I
> switched from 9 to X, I had no problem at all...easy.
And, it's just so much nicer in every way.
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O'Brien ¡V¡V¡V ¡V... .-. .. . -. - 2h.
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Re: Used iMac
Posted by: "Elaine Pollard" elainepollard@gmail.com lainey_68
Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:20 am (PST)
My daughter is a college student, but really is not very tech savvy, so she
will just be using Office. The display is 20" and the hd is 160 gb. The OS
is Mac OSX 10.5.8, I believe.
I will check out the link--thanks so much!
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Larson <pix@maksimo.de > wrote:
>
> On 28.12.2011, at 17:03, John Ross wrote:
>
> > Elaine,
> >
> > The price sounds good, but be aware that it won‚t run Lion (SL at best)
>
> She does probably not need Lion or Snow Leopard to do just her homework
> and surf the Internet.
>
> >> It would be used so
> >> that my daughter can do homework and surf the Internet.
>
> Elaine, you did not say how old your daughter is and what kind of software
> she will be using. That may be an equally important question.
>
> Regarding the price try this site ...
>
> http://www.mac2sell.net/
>
>
> You forgot to mention the display and the hard disk size, both very
> important for the price calculation.
>
> What OS version does the computer have?
>
>
> >> Although I used to
> >> be pretty Mac proficient, I haven't used one in about 15 or more years.
>
> Then you will not recognize the OS anymore, OS X is a completely new, very
> complex operating system and you have to learn most things again from
> scratch.
>
> >> However, I have had so many PC problems that I am fed up.
>
> What problems have you had?
>
>
> Anna
>
>
>
> --------------------- ------
> >> These are the
> >> specs of the machine I'm looking at:
> >>
> >> Model Name: iMac
> >> Model Identifier: iMac4,1
> >> Processor Name: Intel Core Duo
> >> Processor Speed: 1.83 GHz
> >> Number Of Processors: 1
> >> Total Number Of Cores: 2
> >> L2 Cache: 2 MB
> >> Memory: 1 GB
> >> Bus Speed: 667 MHz
> >>
> >> I think the guy is selling it for about $100
>
>
>
> --------------------- --------- ------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsupportcentral. >com/policies/
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
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>
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Re: Used iMac
Posted by: "Elaine Pollard" elainepollard@gmail.com lainey_68
Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:26 am (PST)
Well, there are so many viruses, etc that none of my laptops are working. I
cannot open any web browsers and there's all types of spyware. Not only
that, but somehow my Office software is in Chinese (or some Asian
characters) which means I cannot save any documents.
These are just some issues. I had a top of the line HP laptop that had
processor issues that HP denied was a problem--although there were many
people who had the exact same issues that I had, and even more telling, all
reported the same issues within a few weeks of each other.
I should have bought a Mac from the beginning when I had the opportunity,
but my boss had given me CS3 (this was a few years ago when it was brand
new) and I didn't want to spend additional money to get the Mac version.
Hindsight...
>
> What problems have you had?
>
>
> Anna
>
>
>
> --------------------- ------
> >> These are the
> >> specs of the machine I'm looking at:
> >>
> >> Model Name: iMac
> >> Model Identifier: iMac4,1
> >> Processor Name: Intel Core Duo
> >> Processor Speed: 1.83 GHz
> >> Number Of Processors: 1
> >> Total Number Of Cores: 2
> >> L2 Cache: 2 MB
> >> Memory: 1 GB
> >> Bus Speed: 667 MHz
> >>
> >> I think the guy is selling it for about $100
>
>
>
> --------------------- --------- ------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsupportcentral. >com/policies/
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
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Re: Used iMac
Posted by: "Jeannie" nikonjeannie@gmail.com chloe898
Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:30 am (PST)
That's a shame Elaine. When I bought my mac last January, Adobe gave me the
full Mac Photoshop CS5 for only the cost of shipping. It was about 6
dollars and change.Of course, I was on record as the owner of the Pc
version of CS5
Jeannie
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Elaine Pollard <elainepollard@gmail.com >wrote:
> Well, there are so many viruses, etc that none of my laptops are working. I
> cannot open any web browsers and there's all types of spyware. Not only
> that, but somehow my Office software is in Chinese (or some Asian
> characters) which means I cannot save any documents.
>
> These are just some issues. I had a top of the line HP laptop that had
> processor issues that HP denied was a problem--although there were many
> people who had the exact same issues that I had, and even more telling, all
> reported the same issues within a few weeks of each other.
>
> I should have bought a Mac from the beginning when I had the opportunity,
> but my boss had given me CS3 (this was a few years ago when it was brand
> new) and I didn't want to spend additional money to get the Mac version.
> Hindsight...
>
> >
> > What problems have you had?
> >
> >
> > Anna
> >
> >
> >
> > --------------------- ------
> > >> These are the
> > >> specs of the machine I'm looking at:
> > >>
> > >> Model Name: iMac
> > >> Model Identifier: iMac4,1
> > >> Processor Name: Intel Core Duo
> > >> Processor Speed: 1.83 GHz
> > >> Number Of Processors: 1
> > >> Total Number Of Cores: 2
> > >> L2 Cache: 2 MB
> > >> Memory: 1 GB
> > >> Bus Speed: 667 MHz
> > >>
> > >> I think the guy is selling it for about $100
> >
> >
> >
> > --------------------- --------- ------
> >
> > Group FAQ:
> > <http://www.macsupportcentral. >com/policies/
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsupportcentral. >com/policies/
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
>
>
--
Jeannie
View my images :
http://www.pbase.com/nikonjeannie
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Re: Used iMac
Posted by: "OBrien" bco@hiwaay.net conorboru
Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:57 am (PST)
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 12:20:48 -0500, Elaine Pollard wrote:
> My daughter is a college student, but really is not very tech savvy, so she
> will just be using Office. The display is 20" and the hd is 160 gb. The OS
> is Mac OSX 10.5.8, I believe.
I would buy it, assuming it's in good working order. Be sure to get the system discs that it came with...is the 10.5.8 system included on disc?
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Re: Used iMac
Posted by: "Barry Austern" barryaus@fuse.net barryaus
Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:34 am (PST)
At 10:44 AM -0500 12/28/11, Elaine Pollard wrote:
>
>Model Name: iMac
>Model Identifier: iMac4,1
>Processor Name: Intel Core Duo
>Processor Speed: 1.83 GHz
>Number Of Processors: 1
>Total Number Of Cores: 2
>L2 Cache: 2 MB
>Memory: 1 GB
>Bus Speed: 667 MHz
>
>I think the guy is selling it for about $100--is this a good deal? Is it
>worth it? I just cannot afford to shell out a few thousand for a new
>machine. Thanks for any input!
>
>Elaine
Yes, this is a good price, assuming it works right and things you
need such as keyboard and mouse are included. Also, I hope it has the
original CDs or DVD that came with it.
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net
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Re: Used iMac
Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net
Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:30 pm (PST)
The original OS 1.4.4 and the last OS it can use is 10.6.8.
If it is in good working condition, it is a good price. If it includes a keyboard, mouse and an appropriate OS disc, then it is a great deal.
On Dec 28, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Barry Austern wrote:
> At 10:44 AM -0500 12/28/11, Elaine Pollard wrote:
>
> >
> >Model Name: iMac
> >Model Identifier: iMac4,1
> >Processor Name: Intel Core Duo
> >Processor Speed: 1.83 GHz
> >Number Of Processors: 1
> >Total Number Of Cores: 2
> >L2 Cache: 2 MB
> >Memory: 1 GB
> >Bus Speed: 667 MHz
> >
> >I think the guy is selling it for about $100--is this a good deal? Is it
> >worth it? I just cannot afford to shell out a few thousand for a new
> >machine. Thanks for any input!
> >
> >Elaine
>
> Yes, this is a good price, assuming it works right and things you
> need such as keyboard and mouse are included. Also, I hope it has the
> original CDs or DVD that came with it.
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Learn about reading your Firewall log
Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net denverdan22180
Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:13 am (PST)
Howdy.
Here's a brief article on how to read your Mac's Firewall log.
If you have turned on your Mac's Firewall (a software firewall) in
System Preferences > Security & Privacy >Firewall, your Mac will start
keeping a log of various access events.
You can read this log by using the Console application found in your
Utilities folder. This article has some brief and basic info about
doing this. It's a quick learning exercise to know more about
Macintosh security.
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Technolgist.com
How to Monitor Your Mac's Firewall Logs
<http://www.macinstruct.com/node/ >420
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Denver Dan
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Easter Egg - Knock Knock
Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net denverdan22180
Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:18 pm (PST)
Howdy.
A series of end-of-year Apple easter eggs.
Turn on Speakable Items in System Preferences.
System Preferences > Speech > Speakable Items (turn on). Then see the
mic symbol appear on Desktop.
Say "knock knock" into your mic.
It's knows knock knock jokes.
Denver Dan
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Re: Easter Egg - Knock Knock
Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net hflaxman001
Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:43 pm (PST)
On 12/28/2011 3:17 PM, Denver Dan wrote:
> A series of end-of-year Apple easter eggs.
>
> Turn on Speakable Items in System Preferences.
>
> System Preferences> Speech> Speakable Items (turn on). Then see the
> mic symbol appear on Desktop.
>
> Say "knock knock" into your mic.
>
> It's knows knock knock jokes.
>
> Denver Dan
Sure, lots of speakable items. Time, date, certain commands. The jokes
are funny as heck though.
Harry
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Re: Easter Egg - Knock Knock
Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net denverdan22180
Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:34 pm (PST)
WHOOPS!
I haven't done this in years so I got it topsy-turvy.
Press the Esc key to turn on mic for speakable items.
Then say (with Esc pressed: "Tell me a joke."
Press Esc again when you respond.
Happy New Year. ````````````````````` ```````
Denver Dan
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 15:17:51 -0500, Denver Dan wrote:
> A series of end-of-year Apple easter eggs.
>
> Turn on Speakable Items in System Preferences.
>
> System Preferences > Speech > Speakable Items (turn on). Then see the
> mic symbol appear on Desktop.
>
> Say "knock knock" into your mic.
>
> It's knows knock knock jokes.
>
> Denver Dan
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Re: Easter Egg - Knock Knock
Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net hflaxman001
Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:54 pm (PST)
"Press the Esc key to turn on mic for speakable items. "
Note that this key can be changed to any other that you like, or just no key
at all, speak and the computer 'listens'.
Haven't had much luck with this feature over the years, but there is mention
that Siri may be coming to OS X in the near future! That should clear
things up! :)
Harry
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Re: iMessage - turning off?
Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net
Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:01 pm (PST)
On Dec 27, 2011, at 10:43 PM, Arjun Singhal wrote:
> It should be showing the "E" icon if you don't have access to 3G or the '3G' icon next to where you get the network. Also, if you're on wi-fi, these icons might not show until wi-fi is turned off. But if you're logged on with wi-fi, and having internet connectivity, it should work.
>
> You can try to open a site in safari to confirm this. When i first registered for iMessage, it did ask me to register my phone number and email address where I could receive my iMessages. Registering an email address is necessary for iMessage to work.
>
> On 28-Dec-2011, at 12:08 PM, Michael Moloney wrote:
>
>> Hi there
>>
>> Yes, iCloud is registered. How do I check if the data services is on - just
>> to confirm?
You don't need 3G to use iMessages. It works on on the iPod Touch which has no 3G or other cell voice or data service, only WiFi. iMessages will work on regular cellular data service, no need for 3G.
And iMessages has nothing to do with the iCloud services. It is an app that works on devices with iOS 5.
Michael, what do you mean "it turns off"? Does the the toggle in Settings/ iMessages change, or when you text someone does it change from SMS texting to iMessages when you text someone else?
iMessage only works when the receiving device uses iOS 5, otherwise it just ordinary texting.
If it is actually toggling the setting, then I would try a Back up and Restore. If that does not do it, then I would take it into an Apple Store.
Brent
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Re: iMessage - turning off?
Posted by: "Arjun Singhal" arjunsinghal@yahoo.com arjunsinghal
Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:15 pm (PST)
I tried using iMessage without network coverage on my iPad and my iPhone. It does need some network coverage - either of E, 3G or Wi-Fi. I couldn't imagine that Apple invented a service that would communicate between devices without a means of connectivity.
I am surprised you mention that you're able to communicate without any form of network coverage using your iPod.
On 29-Dec-2011, at 11:31 AM, N.A. Nada wrote:
>
> On Dec 27, 2011, at 10:43 PM, Arjun Singhal wrote:
>
> > It should be showing the "E" icon if you don't have access to 3G or the '3G' icon next to where you get the network. Also, if you're on wi-fi, these icons might not show until wi-fi is turned off. But if you're logged on with wi-fi, and having internet connectivity, it should work.
> >
> > You can try to open a site in safari to confirm this. When i first registered for iMessage, it did ask me to register my phone number and email address where I could receive my iMessages. Registering an email address is necessary for iMessage to work.
> >
> > On 28-Dec-2011, at 12:08 PM, Michael Moloney wrote:
> >
> >> Hi there
> >>
> >> Yes, iCloud is registered. How do I check if the data services is on - just
> >> to confirm?
>
> You don't need 3G to use iMessages. It works on on the iPod Touch which has no 3G or other cell voice or data service, only WiFi. iMessages will work on regular cellular data service, no need for 3G.
>
> And iMessages has nothing to do with the iCloud services. It is an app that works on devices with iOS 5.
>
> Michael, what do you mean "it turns off"? Does the the toggle in Settings/ iMessages change, or when you text someone does it change from SMS texting to iMessages when you text someone else?
>
> iMessage only works when the receiving device uses iOS 5, otherwise it just ordinary texting.
>
> If it is actually toggling the setting, then I would try a Back up and Restore. If that does not do it, then I would take it into an Apple Store.
>
> Brent
>
>
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Re: iMessage - turning off?
Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net
Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:44 pm (PST)
On Dec 28, 2011, at 10:15 PM, Arjun Singhal wrote:
> I tried using iMessage without network coverage on my iPad and my iPhone. It does need some network coverage - either of E, 3G or Wi-Fi. I couldn't imagine that Apple invented a service that would communicate between devices without a means of connectivity.
>
> I am surprised you mention that you're able to communicate without any form of network coverage using your iPod.
>
> On 29-Dec-2011, at 11:31 AM, N.A. Nada wrote:
>
>>
>> On Dec 27, 2011, at 10:43 PM, Arjun Singhal wrote:
>>
>>> It should be showing the "E" icon if you don't have access to 3G or the '3G' icon next to where you get the network. Also, if you're on wi-fi, these icons might not show until wi-fi is turned off. But if you're logged on with wi-fi, and having internet connectivity, it should work.
>>>
>>> You can try to open a site in safari to confirm this. When i first registered for iMessage, it did ask me to register my phone number and email address where I could receive my iMessages. Registering an email address is necessary for iMessage to work.
I don't have a iPod touch, but check out this page:
http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/ built-in- apps/messages. html
Or this one, scroll down to the table:
http://support.apple.com/ kb/TS2755
Michael, check out the prior page or the next for clues to your issue.
http://support.apple.com/ kb/HT3529
Arjun, why were you bring up iCloud services to resolve this issue? I don't follow your train of thought?
Brent
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Re: iMessage - turning off?
Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net hflaxman001
Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:48 pm (PST)
On 12/29/2011 1:44 AM, N.A. Nada wrote:
> On Dec 28, 2011, at 10:15 PM, Arjun Singhal wrote:
>
>> > I tried using iMessage without network coverage on my iPad and my iPhone. It does need some network coverage - either of E, 3G or Wi-Fi. I couldn't imagine that Apple invented a service that would communicate between devices without a means of connectivity.
>> >
>> > I am surprised you mention that you're able to communicate without any form of network coverage using your iPod.
>> >
From the Apple page mentioned:
"Now you can send text messages from iPod touch to any other iOS 5
device over Wi-Fi. Text a little. Text a lot. Text as much as your
thumbs can handle. It's unlimited. And it's free."
Over Wi-Fi.
Harry
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Re: iMessage - turning off?
Posted by: "Arjun Singhal" arjunsinghal@yahoo.com arjunsinghal
Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:10 pm (PST)
And that's exactly what I was hinting - you need some sort of connectivity. I'll rephrase it. If you do not have access to wi-fi, then you must have 2G or 3G Data activated for the message button to go "blue" which means you're using "the net" and not "the network" to send the iMessage.
iMessage won't go through if you do not have access to the internet on your device. I didn't say its an iCloud based service. All I said is that your number and email address should be registered under iMessage and connected through an internet connection for it to work.
I found this link that should prove useful for the set up. I am sorry if there was a confusion some where.
http://www.maclife.com/article/ howtos/how_ set_and_use_ imessage
Regards
On 29-Dec-2011, at 12:14 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
>
> On Dec 28, 2011, at 10:15 PM, Arjun Singhal wrote:
>
> > I tried using iMessage without network coverage on my iPad and my iPhone. It does need some network coverage - either of E, 3G or Wi-Fi. I couldn't imagine that Apple invented a service that would communicate between devices without a means of connectivity.
> >
> > I am surprised you mention that you're able to communicate without any form of network coverage using your iPod.
> >
> > On 29-Dec-2011, at 11:31 AM, N.A. Nada wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On Dec 27, 2011, at 10:43 PM, Arjun Singhal wrote:
> >>
> >>> It should be showing the "E" icon if you don't have access to 3G or the '3G' icon next to where you get the network. Also, if you're on wi-fi, these icons might not show until wi-fi is turned off. But if you're logged on with wi-fi, and having internet connectivity, it should work.
> >>>
> >>> You can try to open a site in safari to confirm this. When i first registered for iMessage, it did ask me to register my phone number and email address where I could receive my iMessages. Registering an email address is necessary for iMessage to work.
>
> I don't have a iPod touch, but check out this page:
>
> http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/ built-in- apps/messages. html
>
> Or this one, scroll down to the table:
>
> http://support.apple.com/ kb/TS2755
>
> Michael, check out the prior page or the next for clues to your issue.
>
> http://support.apple.com/ kb/HT3529
>
> Arjun, why were you bring up iCloud services to resolve this issue? I don't follow your train of thought?
>
> Brent
>
>
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Re: iMessage - turning off?
Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net
Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:46 pm (PST)
On Dec 28, 2011, at 11:10 PM, Arjun Singhal wrote:
> And that's exactly what I was hinting - you need some sort of connectivity. I'll rephrase it. If you do not have access to wi-fi, then you must have 2G or 3G Data activated for the message button to go "blue" which means you're using "the net" and not "the network" to send the iMessage.
>
> iMessage won't go through if you do not have access to the internet on your device. I didn't say its an iCloud based service. All I said is that your number and email address should be registered under iMessage and connected through an internet connection for it to work.
>
> I found this link that should prove useful for the set up. I am sorry if there was a confusion some where.
>
> http://www.maclife.com/article/ howtos/how_ set_and_use_ imessage
OK, now I understand where you are going.
The setup requires an Apple ID, but not a iCloud account.
There are multiple reasons to get an Apple ID, like to use the iTunes Store, App Store, Mac App Store, Apple Developers Connection and possibly more, besides setting up an iCloud account. I have a couple of Apple IDs, but I don't use the one used with my iCloud account for iMessage setup.
It has been a long time since I setup my iPhone, I don't currently see that portion on my phone, anymore.
The blue or green button don't mean your connected to "the net" or "the network". You need some connection to the internet to send and receive MMS, SMS, or iMessage, either cellular or WiFi.
According to http://support.apple.com/ kb/HT3529,
"Messages sent using iMessage will appear in a light blue bubble, while messages sent using SMS or MMS will appear in a green bubble." The color of the button is an indicator of whether or not you are using iMessages, which does not go against your data plan, or regular texting which can be going against your data usage with your cellular carrier.
Good night,
Brent
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