1/16/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 8686

Mac Support Central

Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)

1.1.
Re: Apple OS X Lion Re-install From: Harry Flaxman
1.2.
Re: Apple OS X Lion Re-install From: Arjun Singhal
1.3.
Re: Apple OS X Lion Re-install From: Harry Flaxman
1.4.
Re: Apple OS X Lion Re-install From: Larson
1.5.
Re: Apple OS X Lion Re-install From: Harry Flaxman
1.6.
Re: Apple OS X Lion Re-install From: Arjun Singhal
1.7.
Re: Apple OS X Lion Re-install From: Harry Flaxman
1.8.
Re: Apple OS X Lion Re-install From: Arjun Singhal
2a.
New file uploaded to macsupportcentral From: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com
3a.
OT: Chrome Home Page Issue From: Donna Ells
3b.
Re: OT: Chrome Home Page Issue From: Tim O'Donoghue
3c.
Re: OT: Chrome Home Page Issue From: Donna Ells
3d.
Re: OT: Chrome Home Page Issue From: Tim O'Donoghue
4a.
Re: DiskWarrior any good ??? From: Forrest Leedy
5a.
Re: Start Up Item Question From: pat412255
5b.
Re: Start Up Item Question From: Harry Flaxman
6a.
Re: Missing folder in application support From: Jeannie
6b.
Re: Missing folder in application support From: Harry Flaxman
6c.
Re: Missing folder in application support From: Jeannie
6d.
Re: Missing folder in application support From: Jim Saklad
6e.
Re: Missing folder in application support From: Harry Flaxman
7a.
Re: iCloud address book: one "me card" per device From: James Robertson
8.1.
ADMIN (was Re: [macsupport] Apple OS X Lion Re-install From: Michel Munger
9.
Second Request/Real Player Issues From: Rick
10a.
Re: iCloud- how to use From: Jim Saklad

Messages

1.1.

Re: Apple OS X Lion Re-install

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:37 am (PST)



On Jan 16, 2012, at 7:27 AM, Arjun Singhal wrote:

> Really appreciate your checking with me and the extra help everyone keeps extending. I really wish things were perfect the way they were meant to be, and we all got a consistent client experience (much touted by management gurus in the consulting world)
>
>
> On 16-Jan-2012, at 5:34 PM, Harry Flaxman wrote:
>
>> On Jan 16, 2012, at 1:14 AM, Arjun Singhal wrote:
>>
>>> Randy, Harry and everyone else reading this...
>>
>> Arjun,
>>
>> At one point, you mentioned being able to recover the Install OS X Lion file from the recovery partition?!
>>
>> Did you try the utility I mentioned to create a bootable recovery SD card/thumb drive/dvd?
>>
>> Or am I mistaken about being able to get the file?
>>
>> Even so, the file itself will allow installation of Lion without re-downloading it.
>>
>> Harry
>>
>> Harry Flaxman
>> harry.flaxman@comcast.net
>>
>>
>
>
>

Sure, no problem Arjun.

Try that utility I mention to create the bootable disk. It works like a charm……at least for me it did! I've write protected an SD card after I created it. I've used it several times with success.

Harry

Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@comcast.net

1.2.

Re: Apple OS X Lion Re-install

Posted by: "Arjun Singhal" arjunsinghal@yahoo.com   arjunsinghal

Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:49 am (PST)



Do you have any idea if a 4 Gigabyte SD Card would be sufficient. I have a spare one that shipped with my DSLR, and I don't use it since its just 4 Gigabytes and Class 4 speed. For photography I prefer using 16 Gigs or 32 Gigs at Class 10 speeds.

On 16-Jan-2012, at 6:07 PM, Harry Flaxman wrote:

> On Jan 16, 2012, at 7:27 AM, Arjun Singhal wrote:
>
>> Really appreciate your checking with me and the extra help everyone keeps extending. I really wish things were perfect the way they were meant to be, and we all got a consistent client experience (much touted by management gurus in the consulting world)
>>
>>
>> On 16-Jan-2012, at 5:34 PM, Harry Flaxman wrote:
>>
>>> On Jan 16, 2012, at 1:14 AM, Arjun Singhal wrote:
>>>
>>>> Randy, Harry and everyone else reading this...
>>>
>>> Arjun,
>>>
>>> At one point, you mentioned being able to recover the Install OS X Lion file from the recovery partition?!
>>>
>>> Did you try the utility I mentioned to create a bootable recovery SD card/thumb drive/dvd?
>>>
>>> Or am I mistaken about being able to get the file?
>>>
>>> Even so, the file itself will allow installation of Lion without re-downloading it.
>>>
>>> Harry
>>>
>>> Harry Flaxman
>>> harry.flaxman@comcast.net
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Sure, no problem Arjun.
>
> Try that utility I mention to create the bootable disk. It works like a charm……at least for me it did! I've write protected an SD card after I created it. I've used it several times with success.
>
> Harry
>
>
> Harry Flaxman
> harry.flaxman@comcast.net
>
>
>
>
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1.3.

Re: Apple OS X Lion Re-install

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:51 am (PST)



On Jan 16, 2012, at 7:49 AM, Arjun Singhal wrote:

> Do you have any idea if a 4 Gigabyte SD Card would be sufficient. I have a spare one that shipped with my DSLR, and I don't use it since its just 4 Gigabytes and Class 4 speed. For photography I prefer using 16 Gigs or 32 Gigs at Class 10 speeds.

YES! I use a 4gb SD card without a problem. It leaves about 70mb free after the complete process. Wonderful stuff. I wound up picking up a 4gb SD card for around 12$ US. Cheap enough for me!

Harry

Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@comcast.net

1.4.

Re: Apple OS X Lion Re-install

Posted by: "Larson" pix@maksimo.de   yovard@ymail.com

Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:52 am (PST)




On 16.01.2012, at 07:14, Arjun Singhal wrote:

> Intellect is but a gift of God

Just curious, which of the gods do you mean?

Anna

1.5.

Re: Apple OS X Lion Re-install

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:52 am (PST)



On Jan 16, 2012, at 7:49 AM, Arjun Singhal wrote:

> Do you have any idea if a 4 Gigabyte SD Card would be sufficient. I have a spare one that shipped with my DSLR, and I don't use it since its just 4 Gigabytes and Class 4 speed. For photography I prefer using 16 Gigs or 32 Gigs at Class 10 speeds.

Not only do you get an install card, you get utilities as well, Disk Utility, etc. You can boot from it and try repairs first, before selecting to re-install the OS. You can use Disk Utility to erase the target disk first, to do a clean install. '

Quite nice!

Harry

Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@comcast.net

1.6.

Re: Apple OS X Lion Re-install

Posted by: "Arjun Singhal" arjunsinghal@yahoo.com   arjunsinghal

Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:57 am (PST)



That's what the thumb drive also does. I used a 4.3 Gigabyte partition on the Thumb Drive.
Another question, what about the iLife applications - will they redownload from the App Store (the ones that shipped with the Mac) or will they go to the Card as well? I recollect a recent post about Garageband and I am looking forward to using Garageband very soon, would like to have it included in the bundle (hopefully without downloading it - hehe)

On 16-Jan-2012, at 6:22 PM, Larson wrote:

>
> On 16.01.2012, at 07:14, Arjun Singhal wrote:
>
> > Intellect is but a gift of God
>
> Just curious, which of the gods do you mean?
>
> Anna
>
>

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1.7.

Re: Apple OS X Lion Re-install

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:04 am (PST)



On Jan 16, 2012, at 7:57 AM, Arjun Singhal wrote:

> That's what the thumb drive also does. I used a 4.3 Gigabyte partition on the Thumb Drive.
> Another question, what about the iLife applications - will they redownload from the App Store (the ones that shipped with the Mac) or will they go to the Card as well? I recollect a recent post about Garageband and I am looking forward to using Garageband very soon, would like to have it included in the bundle (hopefully without downloading it - hehe)

It depends upon how you acquired iLife to start with. I had the DVD as it came with my newest iMac. Anything you purchased from the Mac app store will be redownloaded. You may have to initiate these downloads, but they will automatically be available.

You can only get so much in 4gb. To get the utilities and the operating system seems pretty adequate to me.

Not to say one couldn't use a larger SD card, run the boot disk maker utility, then copy the iLife installers over to the SD card afterward.

Harry

Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@comcast.net

1.8.

Re: Apple OS X Lion Re-install

Posted by: "Arjun Singhal" arjunsinghal@yahoo.com   arjunsinghal

Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:12 am (PST)



iLife was pre-installed on the Mac when I received it. There were no DVDs that shipped with these Macs

On 16-Jan-2012, at 6:34 PM, Harry Flaxman wrote:

> On Jan 16, 2012, at 7:57 AM, Arjun Singhal wrote:
>
> > That's what the thumb drive also does. I used a 4.3 Gigabyte partition on the Thumb Drive.
> > Another question, what about the iLife applications - will they redownload from the App Store (the ones that shipped with the Mac) or will they go to the Card as well? I recollect a recent post about Garageband and I am looking forward to using Garageband very soon, would like to have it included in the bundle (hopefully without downloading it - hehe)
>
> It depends upon how you acquired iLife to start with. I had the DVD as it came with my newest iMac. Anything you purchased from the Mac app store will be redownloaded. You may have to initiate these downloads, but they will automatically be available.
>
> You can only get so much in 4gb. To get the utilities and the operating system seems pretty adequate to me.
>
> Not to say one couldn't use a larger SD card, run the boot disk maker utility, then copy the iLife installers over to the SD card afterward.
>
> Harry
>
> Harry Flaxman
> harry.flaxman@comcast.net
>
>

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2a.

New file uploaded to macsupportcentral

Posted by: "macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com" macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com

Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:01 am (PST)




Hello,

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File : /Donna's Chrome Issue 2012-01-16 at 7.58.33 AM.png
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Description : this is what keeps opening every time Chrome is used, instead of my preferred and selected "home page".

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3a.

OT: Chrome Home Page Issue

Posted by: "Donna Ells" dellis70@tampabay.rr.com   dellis551

Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:08 am (PST)



Hi, this is not actually regarding an Apple product, but I am hopeful for
your assistance.

I would prefer using Chrome, but for some reason, a frustrating page keeps
popping up every time Chrome is opened on this iMac. The other iMac in our
home (6 months newer than this one) brings up our selected home page. The
same options are selected in the PREFS, yet this page is what keeps popping
up on the 27" iMac (10.6.8). Both iMacs are running the same OS and same
version of Chrome (16.0.912.75).

Surely I am just stupidly selecting something which is causing this specific
page to open.
I've taken a photo of the page and placed it in the files here:
Donna's Chrome Issue 2012-01-16 at 7.58.33 AM.png 1,366¡ß1,211 pixels
<http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/UB8UT-UN8esPJP1-yPAd_95pN2IQVYLyef2sXOLoKzE3lp
IFQSJGrEEGkNBN0wkl-lYdsWEjqa3SB8iQ_PFi1VmaG0JncnM/Donna%27s%20Chrome%20Issue
%202012-01-16%20at%207.58.33%20AM.png>

(or macsupportcentral : Files
<http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/macsupportcentral/files/> and click on
Donna's Chrome Issue)

Thanks for your help.
Donna

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3b.

Re: OT: Chrome Home Page Issue

Posted by: "Tim O'Donoghue" tjod@drizzle.net   timodonoghue

Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:19 am (PST)



Donna;

The page you are seeing in Chrome appears instead of the designated home page when Chrome has not been fully closed. I see the same behavior when I close the last tab in the browser (which makes the Chrome UI disappear), but the app itself is still running in the background. Reopening it shows either "Most Visited" or "Apps" depending the selection at the bottom of the screen.

If you close Chrome completely with Command-Q or by selecting Chrome > Quit Google Chrome from the menu, then reopen it, your homepage should open. You can also look in the Dock to determine if Chrome is still running by the presence of a small dot or "light" underneath the Chrome icon.

On Jan 16, 2012, at 5:08 AM, Donna Ells wrote:

> Hi, this is not actually regarding an Apple product, but I am hopeful for
> your assistance.
>
> I would prefer using Chrome, but for some reason, a frustrating page keeps
> popping up every time Chrome is opened on this iMac. The other iMac in our
> home (6 months newer than this one) brings up our selected home page. The
> same options are selected in the PREFS, yet this page is what keeps popping
> up on the 27" iMac (10.6.8). Both iMacs are running the same OS and same
> version of Chrome (16.0.912.75).
>
> Surely I am just stupidly selecting something which is causing this specific
> page to open.
> I've taken a photo of the page and placed it in the files here:
> Donna's Chrome Issue 2012-01-16 at 7.58.33 AM.png 1,366¡ß1,211 pixels
> <http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/UB8UT-UN8esPJP1-yPAd_95pN2IQVYLyef2sXOLoKzE3lp
> IFQSJGrEEGkNBN0wkl-lYdsWEjqa3SB8iQ_PFi1VmaG0JncnM/Donna%27s%20Chrome%20Issue
> %202012-01-16%20at%207.58.33%20AM.png>
>
> (or macsupportcentral : Files
> <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/macsupportcentral/files/> and click on
> Donna's Chrome Issue)
>
> Thanks for your help.
> Donna
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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3c.

Re: OT: Chrome Home Page Issue

Posted by: "Donna Ells" dellis70@tampabay.rr.com   dellis551

Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:47 am (PST)



Thanks, Tim. I did notice if the app is QUIT, then it starts up with the
desired page. What I don't understand is why isn't this same frustrating
page appearing on the other iMac? I don't want this page as it is limiting,
and I have to manually choose the home page.

Probably I'm missing the boat somewhere else, too, because I cannot find the
LOG OUT/ SIGN OUT option on Chrome unless I physically QUIT the app and
bring up the home page, or manually choose HOME.

Is there a way of having Chrome open to the desired page (my Home Page)
every time without having to quit it after each use?

I really do appreciate your assistance. It seems so stupid that I can't fix
this on the 27" iMac, and yet, the 21" iMac operates Chrome exactly has
desired.
Donna

From: Tim O'Donoghue <tjod@drizzle.net>
Reply-To: Mac Support Central <macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 07:19:36 -0800
To: Mac Support Central <macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [macsupport] OT: Chrome Home Page Issue

>
>
>
>
>
> Donna;
>
> The page you are seeing in Chrome appears instead of the designated home page
> when Chrome has not been fully closed. I see the same behavior when I close
> the last tab in the browser (which makes the Chrome UI disappear), but the app
> itself is still running in the background. Reopening it shows either "Most
> Visited" or "Apps" depending the selection at the bottom of the screen.
>
> If you close Chrome completely with Command-Q or by selecting Chrome > Quit
> Google Chrome from the menu, then reopen it, your homepage should open. You
> can also look in the Dock to determine if Chrome is still running by the
> presence of a small dot or "light" underneath the Chrome icon.
>
> On Jan 16, 2012, at 5:08 AM, Donna Ells wrote:
>
>> > Hi, this is not actually regarding an Apple product, but I am hopeful for
>> > your assistance.
>> >
>> > I would prefer using Chrome, but for some reason, a frustrating page keeps
>> > popping up every time Chrome is opened on this iMac. The other iMac in our
>> > home (6 months newer than this one) brings up our selected home page. The
>> > same options are selected in the PREFS, yet this page is what keeps popping
>> > up on the 27" iMac (10.6.8). Both iMacs are running the same OS and same
>> > version of Chrome (16.0.912.75).
>> >
>> > Surely I am just stupidly selecting something which is causing this
>> specific
>> > page to open.
>> > I've taken a photo of the page and placed it in the files here:
>> > Donna's Chrome Issue 2012-01-16 at 7.58.33 AM.png 1,366¡ß1,211 pixels
>> >
>> <http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/UB8UT-UN8esPJP1-yPAd_95pN2IQVYLyef2sXOLoKzE3lp
>> >
>> IFQSJGrEEGkNBN0wkl-lYdsWEjqa3SB8iQ_PFi1VmaG0JncnM/Donna%27s%20Chrome%20Issue
>> > %202012-01-16%20at%207.58.33%20AM.png>
>> >
>> > (or macsupportcentral : Files
>> > <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/macsupportcentral/files/> and click on
>> > Donna's Chrome Issue)
>

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3d.

Re: OT: Chrome Home Page Issue

Posted by: "Tim O'Donoghue" tjod@drizzle.net   timodonoghue

Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:08 am (PST)



I'm not sure why there is different behavior on the two different machines. When I started using Chrome recently, I thought it was odd behavior too, so I searched for a fix. There is no "fix" as this behavior is by design.

As for logging out of Chrome / Google:

Click the Wrench icon on the far top right of the browser window. In the preferences section on the left select "Personal Stuff" the in the Sign In section click the "Disconnect Your Google Account" button.

This can probably be better addressed on a Chrome Support page - maybe in Google Groups.

On Jan 16, 2012, at 7:46 AM, Donna Ells wrote:

> Thanks, Tim. I did notice if the app is QUIT, then it starts up with the
> desired page. What I don't understand is why isn't this same frustrating
> page appearing on the other iMac? I don't want this page as it is limiting,
> and I have to manually choose the home page.
>
> Probably I'm missing the boat somewhere else, too, because I cannot find the
> LOG OUT/ SIGN OUT option on Chrome unless I physically QUIT the app and
> bring up the home page, or manually choose HOME.
>
> Is there a way of having Chrome open to the desired page (my Home Page)
> every time without having to quit it after each use?
>
> I really do appreciate your assistance. It seems so stupid that I can't fix
> this on the 27" iMac, and yet, the 21" iMac operates Chrome exactly has
> desired.
> Donna
>
>
>
> From: Tim O'Donoghue <tjod@drizzle.net>
> Reply-To: Mac Support Central <macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 07:19:36 -0800
> To: Mac Support Central <macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [macsupport] OT: Chrome Home Page Issue
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Donna;
>>
>> The page you are seeing in Chrome appears instead of the designated home page
>> when Chrome has not been fully closed. I see the same behavior when I close
>> the last tab in the browser (which makes the Chrome UI disappear), but the app
>> itself is still running in the background. Reopening it shows either "Most
>> Visited" or "Apps" depending the selection at the bottom of the screen.
>>
>> If you close Chrome completely with Command-Q or by selecting Chrome > Quit
>> Google Chrome from the menu, then reopen it, your homepage should open. You
>> can also look in the Dock to determine if Chrome is still running by the
>> presence of a small dot or "light" underneath the Chrome icon.
>>
>> On Jan 16, 2012, at 5:08 AM, Donna Ells wrote:
>>
>>>> Hi, this is not actually regarding an Apple product, but I am hopeful for
>>>> your assistance.
>>>>
>>>> I would prefer using Chrome, but for some reason, a frustrating page keeps
>>>> popping up every time Chrome is opened on this iMac. The other iMac in our
>>>> home (6 months newer than this one) brings up our selected home page. The
>>>> same options are selected in the PREFS, yet this page is what keeps popping
>>>> up on the 27" iMac (10.6.8). Both iMacs are running the same OS and same
>>>> version of Chrome (16.0.912.75).
>>>>
>>>> Surely I am just stupidly selecting something which is causing this
>>> specific
>>>> page to open.
>>>> I've taken a photo of the page and placed it in the files here:
>>>> Donna's Chrome Issue 2012-01-16 at 7.58.33 AM.png 1,366¡ß1,211 pixels
>>>>
>>> <http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/UB8UT-UN8esPJP1-yPAd_95pN2IQVYLyef2sXOLoKzE3lp
>>>>
>>> IFQSJGrEEGkNBN0wkl-lYdsWEjqa3SB8iQ_PFi1VmaG0JncnM/Donna%27s%20Chrome%20Issue
>>>> %202012-01-16%20at%207.58.33%20AM.png>
>>>>
>>>> (or macsupportcentral : Files
>>>> <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/macsupportcentral/files/> and click on
>>>> Donna's Chrome Issue)
>>
>
>
>
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4a.

Re: DiskWarrior any good ???

Posted by: "Forrest Leedy" f.leedy@comcast.net   forrkazu

Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:51 am (PST)



Randy, I don't care if you or anybody else does not want to use Disk Warrior, that is the choice that you and others made. I am just pointing out that Disk Warrior at times does find problems and corrects them and that Disk Utility does not and yes it does improve the performance of my iMac. I will also admit that some of the problems it found in a few cases was minor stuff that really did not matter one way or another. Frankly, if you and others do not find any value in using this program, so be it!

Forrest

On Jan 15, 2012, at 7:17 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote:

> On Jan 15, 2012, at 8:01 AM, Forrest Leedy wrote:
>
>> I don't totally agree that Disk Utility/Repair Disk always works as
>> I have run disk repair at times from Disk Utility and it has
>> indicated no problems. I then turn around and run Disk Warrior and
>> on occasions it finds errors where Disk Utility did not find and it
>> corrects them.
>
> And how do you know that these "errors" were anything significant?
>
> Were you actually experiencing problems that Disk Utility couldn't
> fix, or was it just that DW didn't agree with how DU arranged things?

5a.

Re: Start Up Item Question

Posted by: "pat412255" pat412@mac.com   pat412255

Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:57 am (PST)




Thanks, Harry. I'm installing the app today.

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Harry Flaxman <harry.flaxman@...> wrote:
>
> On Jan 15, 2012, at 11:10 PM, pat412255 wrote:
>
> > When I open & unlock the user group in System Preferences to add a couple of start up items & remove one already listed, the pane looks fine. I then click the lock & close the preference pane. All is well until I restart the MacBook Air. The recently added start up items disappear from the preference pane & the removed one reappears. Any suggestions for a fix?
> > Thanks,
> > Pat
>
> I had this happen back when I used 10.6. I had a sporadic 'emptying' of my startup items, for no apparent reason. I never did figure it out. I did create a new user account for myself and move everything there, which stopped it temporarily.
>
> You might try using the app 'Startupizer', available on the Mac app store. They have a lite version which is free. Pretty neat app that speeds up and simplifies startup items. I use it now and wouldn't be without it.
>
> Harry
>
>
> Harry Flaxman
> harry.flaxman@...
>

5b.

Re: Start Up Item Question

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:01 am (PST)



On Jan 16, 2012, at 9:57 AM, pat412255 wrote:

> Thanks, Harry. I'm installing the app today.
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Harry Flaxman <harry.flaxman@...> wrote:
>>
>> On Jan 15, 2012, at 11:10 PM, pat412255 wrote:
>>
>>> When I open & unlock the user group in System Preferences to add a couple of start up items & remove one already listed, the pane looks fine. I then click the lock & close the preference pane. All is well until I restart the MacBook Air. The recently added start up items disappear from the preference pane & the removed one reappears. Any suggestions for a fix?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Pat
>>
>> I had this happen back when I used 10.6. I had a sporadic 'emptying' of my startup items, for no apparent reason. I never did figure it out. I did create a new user account for myself and move everything there, which stopped it temporarily.
>>
>> You might try using the app 'Startupizer', available on the Mac app store. They have a lite version which is free. Pretty neat app that speeds up and simplifies startup items. I use it now and wouldn't be without it.
>>
>> Harry
>>
>>
>> Harry Flaxman
>> harry.flaxman@...
>>
>
>
>
>

You're welcome! Let us know how you make out.

Harry

Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@comcast.net

6a.

Re: Missing folder in application support

Posted by: "Jeannie" nikonjeannie@gmail.com   chloe898

Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:13 am (PST)



I do have library visable, but in the section called application help,
There is no Topaz folder, yet when I look at the short cut for it in the
Photoshop folder under applications, I can click on original and view it,
and in finder , it tells me that it is in library, application help, yet I
can not see it there.
Jeannie

On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@me.com> wrote:

> > I was having trouble with a topaz filter. It couldn't save my presets.
> The tech person told me to delete it and reinstall it. Her directions were
> to go to the library, to application support, and delete it there..But it
> wasn't there. I started looking around ,and in applications, Photoshop CS5,
> I saw the topaz folders, but all with shortcut signs. When I clicked on get
> info, and on show original, it tell me that the originals are in the
> library, application support..but they are not visable. In my old windows
> computers there was a place to show Hidden folders. How can I make these
> folders show in Application support? They are there, or so I have been
> told, yet, I can not see them. I have a Mac Pro running Lion.
>
>
> 1. While in Finder, click on the Go menu.
> 2. If you also press <Option>, you will see Library as a choice in that
> menu.
> 3. Select Library there.
> 4. When a Finder window opens to ~.Library, click and hold on the titlebar
> icon for "Users/<Username>/Library" and drag it to the left pane, and drop
> it in the Favorites section.
>
> You should now have "Library" available to click on in the left pane of
> any Finder window.
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6b.

Re: Missing folder in application support

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:18 am (PST)



On Jan 16, 2012, at 10:13 AM, Jeannie wrote:

> I do have library visable, but in the section called application help,
> There is no Topaz folder, yet when I look at the short cut for it in the
> Photoshop folder under applications, I can click on original and view it,
> and in finder , it tells me that it is in library, application help, yet I
> can not see it there.
> Jeannie

Can you not follow the alias that you see. Right click on the icon you are seeing and select 'show original'. You should be able to follow in that manner until you come to the original folder.

Harry

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6c.

Re: Missing folder in application support

Posted by: "Jeannie" nikonjeannie@gmail.com   chloe898

Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:36 am (PST)



Harry, I did that and then I can see the original that way, But how would I
delete it from there..and why doesn't it show in application support, even
though that is where it says it is.

Jeannie

On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Harry Flaxman <harry.flaxman@comcast.net>wrote:

> On Jan 16, 2012, at 10:13 AM, Jeannie wrote:
>
> > I do have library visable, but in the section called application help,
> > There is no Topaz folder, yet when I look at the short cut for it in the
> > Photoshop folder under applications, I can click on original and view
> it,
> > and in finder , it tells me that it is in library, application help,
> yet I
> > can not see it there.
> > Jeannie
>
> Can you not follow the alias that you see. Right click on the icon you
> are seeing and select 'show original'. You should be able to follow in
> that manner until you come to the original folder.
>
> Harry
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6d.

Re: Missing folder in application support

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:01 am (PST)



> I do have library visable, but in the section called application help, There is no Topaz folder, yet when I look at the short cut for it in the Photoshop folder under applications, I can click on original and view it, and in finder , it tells me that it is in library, application help, yet I can not see it there.
> Jeannie

There are AT LEAST 3 library folders on your Mac:

./Library
./System/Library
./Users/<username>/Library

No 3rd-party software should be screwing around with anything in ./System/Library but Adobe may be putting stuff in the top-level ./Library

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6e.

Re: Missing folder in application support

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:01 am (PST)



On Jan 16, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Jeannie wrote:

> Harry, I did that and then I can see the original that way, But how would I
> delete it from there..and why doesn't it show in application support, even
> though that is where it says it is.

What you are seeing are aliases. They can be noted by a curved arrow at the bottom of the icon. These can be followed until you get to the original. What you may be seeing in Application Support, if anything, is another alias. If it is not there, this might be the root of the problem.

Not knowing the program, I can't say.

Perhaps another user watching can help us out on this?

Harry

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7a.

Re: iCloud address book: one "me card" per device

Posted by: "James Robertson" jamesrob@sonic.net   jamesrob328i

Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:29 am (PST)




On Jan 15, 2012, at 8:05 PM, James Robertson wrote:

> Any way to merge these entries?

And later in the day yesterday I was able to delete 3 of the 4 from my iPad, leaving behind one card on all devices and only one entry on the Birthdays calendar. I have no idea why I couldn't do it earlier, but I'm a happy camper in the cloud now.

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8.1.

ADMIN (was Re: [macsupport] Apple OS X Lion Re-install

Posted by: "Michel Munger" michel@macsupportcentral.com   mmungermtl

Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:59 am (PST)



Guys,

Enough of this. Let's keep our discussions about the Mac. Brent made a clumsy move but he also apologized quickly for it and we shall move on.

Michel (Group owner)

Sent from my iPhone

On 2012-01-16, at 1:14, Arjun Singhal <arjunsinghal@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Randy, Harry and everyone else reading this...
>
> Much appreciate for being so accommodating. Although, Brent does make it sound as though I am about to bite out.
>
> For the part of knowing the file size that is downloading - I am unable to determine that since the download is happening in the background in the install screens of OS X Lion. Thus, I am not sure about the download size. I called the ISP, and they said about 6 Gigabytes has been transfered in all (and since they sometimes double up the transfer to also including packet receipt messages, I am assuming about 3 Gigabytes must have been transfered).
>
> Unfortunately, when I left last night, the download was showing 44 hours remaining, but this morning, it says, the download has failed. There can be multiple reasons for this I believe, and I would probably like to blame a spike in the ISP bandwidth, but that means after two days of paying for the high bandwidth, I am back to square one.
>
> To bring forward Brent's idea on what I am starting out, then blowtrumpet.com is not a social networking site. We are working on solutions that aim at making the internet more useful for generations to come. We work as media consultants, on the idea that the printing press revolutionized media allowing one-to-many communication with high latency, the telephone brought one-to-one real time communication and the gramaphone, tape recorders brought latency to voice, audio and later video. But the internet was the first medium that became a motive carriage for many-to-many communication, where the audience has become participative and collaborates to generate meaningful content. This group is just a small example of such collaboration.
>
> I understand that Brent is more fortunate, not only in terms of money, but also opportunity to have used Apple computers since he was a child. Although, I used computers since an early age, they were hard to come by, and get support for. In earlier days, we would round up groups of friends in schools, neighborhoods etc. and troubleshoot our problems. Needless to mention, the strive continues even today, and I beg apologies again, if I have offended anyone in any manner. Most people have taken great pains in order to help sort out the problem. Among the last few posts, I have been told to take the laptop to a genius bar, but I am afraid, there are no "Apple Stores" in India, and the "Apple Authorised Service Centers" do not indulge in making copies of OS X Lion and passing them out. The only option they say they have available is that one should download it from the App Store. I'll add here, that most service centers do not have very high-bandwidth connections either, because bandwidth in India comes at a phenomenal cost, as compared to how people get it in the west. For home use, I pay in India Rs. 1700 (USD 35) and get 20 Gigabytes of "data transfer" per month at 1 mbps. For commercial usage, the price plans are about ten times as much. The highest speed available here through DSL connectivity is 16mbps and the cost factor scales upto Rs. 350,000 per month, if you want it for commercial use. Such speeds are available only in very specific areas of large metro cities of the country, and probably nothing out of the ordinary if you live in the United States. Add to it, the price of the dollar for us is much more, because we earn in Indian rupees, and you can get a bottle of coke out here for Rs. 10, which is about the fraction of what it costs in America. At that difference in purchasing power parity, the cost of our internet connections is much higher as compared to what people in the west pay for theirs.
>
> If younger people are not welcome on the group, to share their grievances or check if solutions are possible, then I would recommend this group be marked "Oldies only" because this is not the first time that Brent has attacked me in person. I am sure there will soon be days when the fortunate ones would like to blame China for a lot of their economic hassles, but then I must say, it is us who went helter-skelter in search for cost advantages when traditionally the motive of trade was to exchange goods in abundance, not economic cost advantage.
>
> I do not want to collect laurels and accolades and put them up for display. As a schoolboy, I was blessed to receive a national award in robotics and design, my programs were featured on television a few times - but those were days of VHS, not of youtube. I have spent the last ten years, developing solutions in different areas of engineering compliances, financial systems and consulting companies on executive pay. I know this is getting a little out of purview of the group, but there are people in the US who pay more for club memberships every year, than even fortunate people in other parts of the world earn in their entire lifetime. I often wondered that even after the companies published executive pay in so much detail, how could shareholders approve of such extravagant expenditure and not raise their voice in annual meetings. I guess, it was because of people who are greedy and fortunate and who believe that there should be no end to accumulation of wealth, and probably somewhere they believe technologically will be developed when they can take it all up with them when they eventually die.
>
> That said, I am not a Microsoft fan. In fact quite the opposite. Although, in our office, we are still using a few microsoft computers, but I surely hope as business grows, we would be able to sideline them out, and move to Macs completely. Or better yet, maybe consider open source alternatives - because I firmly believe that the best knowledge comes free. We can ask to be paid for our labour, not intellect. Intellect is but a gift of God, and we must use it to serve others.
>
> I don't have as much experience as many of you helpful people, I am sure. But I've seen scores of people use anti-ageing complexes, but never seen anyone get younger. I don't think it's worth to hide away from the fact that youth are owners of tomorrow, and we better get our act together now.
>
> Regards,
> Arjun
>
>
> On 16-Jan-2012, at 1:41 AM, N.A. Nada wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jan 14, 2012, at 11:08 PM, Harry Flaxman wrote:
>>
>>> If you use the directions I sent, in Terminal, you can extract the file from that recovery partition. Pretty easy task to accomplish.
>>>
>>> Once doing so, create a bootable device using the utility I posted the link for previously.
>>
>> OFF-LIST
>>
>> Harry,
>>
>> Please keep this off-list.
>>
>> Arjun is just a troll and a whiner. No matter what you or anyone tells him, you are wrong and he is right. I pretty much just gave up on him. He has accused me os racism and personal attacks on him. I'm just waiting for Randy to go off on him.
>>
>> He is the source of much of his own issues. A little forethought would keep him from having these problems. He is younger than most of the regulars here, by 20 or more years, and he still thinks Windows when working on a Mac. He has started a social networking site and thinks that makes him the only one whose opinion or thinking is correct.
>>
>> If I were king of the world for a day, I would take away his Macs and iPhone and give him Windows boxes and an Android phone, let him customize them to his hearts content, and watch him howl.
>>
>> I'm not a Terminal user, but a quick read though that web page confused the hell out of me. I'm sure if I had to I could do it, but I would have to ask a few questions to do it. And it would still confuse me.
>>
>> Brent
>>
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9.

Second Request/Real Player Issues

Posted by: "Rick" ballyrick@yahoo.com   ballyrick

Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:20 am (PST)




It seems "Real Player Downloader" pops up from time to time while I am about to view e-mail, as if it has a mind of its own.

I opened the "Real Player" Folder and found about 4,500 items, some of which are the photos I have in iPhoto or the music I store in iTunes.

But the majority of items/icons, are things I do not recognize and as such, I wonder if I should be deleting some or if in the entirety they are consuming too many GB`s, although it does not seem to be the case.

At the same time many of these may be valuable to the computer`s on going functions.
Examples are as follows:
"Portable Net," "Graphics," Quick Draw," "Word 2003 Format and Template,"
"HTML Document," "Tiff Image," "Apple Loop" and more.

Since I am not the original owner, could the above examples be things that were never purged before I took possession?

Would the group kindly advise me, if my examples are recognizable, if they are essential or if they have no value and if so, how do I delete them? I presume I can drag a few to trash every day for the rest of my life. ;o)

I have an older PowerBookG4 running 10.5.8 and for my limited use I am elated with this MAC.

10a.

Re: iCloud- how to use

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:50 am (PST)



>> Is there any instructional sites for the iCloud. I would like to know how to use this.
>> Titnaw
>
> I did a search for 'iCloud' at apple.com/support and came up with this:
>
> <http://support.apple.com/kb/index?page=search&src=support_site.home.search&locale=en_US&q=icloud>
>
> Pretty informative stuff!
> Harry

Also <http://www.apple.com/icloud/>

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