7/03/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 8973

Mac Support Central
25 New Messages
Digest #8973
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Re: pdfs not opening in Safari by "Brimac" cuatro.calla
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Re: pdfs not opening in Safari by "Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger
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Re: pdfs not opening in Safari by "Susan Lerner" smlphoto1
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Re: Back to my Mac without iCloud by "Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
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Re: Back to my Mac without iCloud by "Daly Jessup" dalyjessup
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Re: Back to my Mac without iCloud by "Daly Jessup" dalyjessup
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Re: Back to my Mac without iCloud by "Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
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Re: Back to my Mac without iCloud by "Daly Jessup" dalyjessup
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Re: Back to my Mac without iCloud by "Daly Jessup" dalyjessup
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Re: Mail email folders by "Oneal Neumann" newalander
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Re: Emergency iPhone Charging Tips by "bobbystar" bobbystar
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Re: Finder-sidebar-font size by "Oneal Neumann" newalander
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Re: Finder-sidebar-font size by "Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
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Re: Finder-sidebar-font size by "Oneal Neumann" newalander
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non-wireless router by "dellis70@tampabay.rr.com" dellis551
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Re: Finder-sidebar-font size by "Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
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Re: non-wireless router by "Denver Dan" denverdan22180
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Re: non-wireless router by "Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
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Re: Finder-sidebar-font size by "Oneal Neumann" newalander
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Startup chime by "Daly Jessup" dalyjessup

Mon Jul 2, 2012 10:17 am (PDT) . Posted by: "N.A. Nada"
It is the Adobe Reader browser plug-in that cause the problem, not the Adobe Reader that causes the problem.

With Preview installed you don't need the app or browser plug-in operating or installed.

Brent

On Jul 2, 2012, at 8:39 AM, Dave Sherlock wrote:

That should be Adobe Reader not Flash.

Regards, Dave
Sent from my  iPad

On Jul 2, 2012, at 8:32 AM, Forrest Leedy <f.leedy@comcast.net> wrote:

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> On Jul 2, 2012, at 10:01 AM, smlphoto1 wrote:
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> > Since I upgraded? to Lion, none of the PDFs in Safari are opening... can't seem to find any help... does anyone have any ideas?
> > Thanks!
> > Susan
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> Do you have Adobe Flash installed?
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> Forrest
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Mon Jul 2, 2012 1:09 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "Brimac" cuatro.calla


They get saved to your Downloads folder by default, or whichever folder you specified in Safari>Preferences>General.

Alternatively you can type command, option L to open the Safari Download window and then click the magnifying glass beside the file you want to view, and the file will be shown in a Finder window…

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "smlphoto1" <smlphoto@...> wrote:
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> Since I upgraded? to Lion, none of the PDFs in Safari are opening... can't seem to find any help... does anyone have any ideas?
> Thanks!
> Susan
>

Mon Jul 2, 2012 1:18 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger

On Jul 2, 2012, at 7:01 AM, smlphoto1 wrote:

> Since I upgraded? to Lion, none of the PDFs in Safari are
> opening... can't seem to find any help... does anyone have any ideas?

Adobe has a knowledgebase article on this.

http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/905/cpsid_90508.html
Acrobat family

Adobe Reader plug-in and Acrobat plug-in are not compatible with the
Safari 5.1 browser, which will ship with Mac OS X 10.7 and for 10.6
in July 2011. Adobe Reader and Acrobat will continue to work as
standalone applications on Mac OS X 10.7 and 10.6, and will render
PDF documents outside of the browser. In addition, Safari 5.1 renders
PDF documents natively. However, the Adobe Reader and Acrobat plug-
ins will not function as expected in LiveCycle and Acrobat workflows
that require either plug-in to render PDF documents in Safari 5.1.

Recommendation to Customers/Users:
For Acrobat customers who utilize functionality like forms, digital
signatures, portfolios, guides, 3D, extended PDFs and rights
management, and who require the Acrobat plug-in to render PDF
documents in the Safari browser, Adobe recommends that you continue
to use Safari 5.0.x and Mac OS X 10.6. We will provide updates as we
continue to investigate this issue.

A work-around to get PDF's to open in Safari is to use this plug-in:

http://www.schubert-it.com/pluginpdf/

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
___________________________________________

Mon Jul 2, 2012 2:00 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "Susan Lerner" smlphoto1
BINGO!... when I dumped all my old adobe files, upgrading my Photoshop, I must have trashed that too! Thanks!
Mon Jul 2, 2012 11:26 am (PDT) . Posted by: "N.A. Nada"
I may be traveling for work, again, and I want to be able to connect to my Drobo at home.

I realize I may need to leave a Mac on to do this. The Drobo is not a model that directly allows this. The only thing that I have found was Back to my Mac, but with MobileMe gone, and my G4 Quicksilver not capable of running higher than 10.5.8, I don't see how.

I will be traveling with my MBP currently running 10.7.4. The current information from Apple is to use iCloud, but the G4 with 10.5.8 does not have a Sys Pref for iCloud to set it up.

I would prefer to use Apple software to accomplish this. As a last resort I will consider third party software, but right now I am on a tight budget.

Suggestions, please.

Brent
Mon Jul 2, 2012 12:18 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
> I may be traveling for work, again, and I want to be able to connect to my Drobo at home.
>
> I realize I may need to leave a Mac on to do this. The Drobo is not a model that directly allows this. The only thing that I have found was Back to my Mac, but with MobileMe gone, and my G4 Quicksilver not capable of running higher than 10.5.8, I don't see how.

I don't know if this has an answer for you, but I encountered this just after seeing your message:

<http://www.macworld.com/article/1167464/set_up_your_mac_for_remote_file_access.html>

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Mon Jul 2, 2012 12:59 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "N.A. Nada"
Thanks Jim. That article came up since I did a web search a few days ago. I will have to read it later, I need to take my iPhone 3GS in for a Genius Bar appointment.

On Jul 2, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:

> I may be traveling for work, again, and I want to be able to connect to my Drobo at home.
>
> I realize I may need to leave a Mac on to do this. The Drobo is not a model that directly allows this. The only thing that I have found was Back to my Mac, but with MobileMe gone, and my G4 Quicksilver not capable of running higher than 10.5.8, I don't see how.

I don't know if this has an answer for you, but I encountered this just after seeing your message:

<http://www.macworld.com/article/1167464/set_up_your_mac_for_remote_file_access.html>

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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

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Mon Jul 2, 2012 5:18 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "Daly Jessup" dalyjessup

On Jul 2, 2012, at 11:26 AM, N.A. Nada wrote:

> I may be traveling for work, again, and I want to be able to connect to my Drobo at home.
>
> I realize I may need to leave a Mac on to do this. The Drobo is not a model that directly allows this. The only thing that I have found was Back to my Mac, but with MobileMe gone, and my G4 Quicksilver not capable of running higher than 10.5.8, I don't see how.
>
> I will be traveling with my MBP currently running 10.7.4. The current information from Apple is to use iCloud, but the G4 with 10.5.8 does not have a Sys Pref for iCloud to set it up.
>
> I would prefer to use Apple software to accomplish this. As a last resort I will consider third party software, but right now I am on a tight budget.

Some years ago, I used to reach my home computer using VPN. I had some shareware VPN server and client that worked perfectly for me. I also used to FTP to my home computer (sadly, I haven't been able to get that working at present). At any rate, if you can figure out how to do it, VPN could be a viable option for you.

Otherwise, if you don't need access to the entire Drobo but just to certain key files, you could consider Dropbox, which is free.

Daly
Mon Jul 2, 2012 5:40 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "N.A. Nada"
Yeah, if I can't do Back to my Mac, I was thinking something along the lines of Timbuktu or VPN, but I want to try it will Apple free software first.

The Drobo is 2TB of stuff. I will be traveling for long stretches at a time and this is for back up to what I am bringing with me.

I don't trust in the cloud, so that is not an option.

Brent

On Jul 2, 2012, at 5:18 PM, Daly Jessup wrote:

On Jul 2, 2012, at 11:26 AM, N.A. Nada wrote:

> I may be traveling for work, again, and I want to be able to connect to my Drobo at home.
>
> I realize I may need to leave a Mac on to do this. The Drobo is not a model that directly allows this. The only thing that I have found was Back to my Mac, but with MobileMe gone, and my G4 Quicksilver not capable of running higher than 10.5.8, I don't see how.
>
> I will be traveling with my MBP currently running 10.7.4. The current information from Apple is to use iCloud, but the G4 with 10.5.8 does not have a Sys Pref for iCloud to set it up.
>
> I would prefer to use Apple software to accomplish this. As a last resort I will consider third party software, but right now I am on a tight budget.

Some years ago, I used to reach my home computer using VPN. I had some shareware VPN server and client that worked perfectly for me. I also used to FTP to my home computer (sadly, I haven't been able to get that working at present). At any rate, if you can figure out how to do it, VPN could be a viable option for you.

Otherwise, if you don't need access to the entire Drobo but just to certain key files, you could consider Dropbox, which is free.

Daly

Mon Jul 2, 2012 7:18 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "Daly Jessup" dalyjessup
I did find an application called VPN Activator that says it activates VPN capabilities that are already built into Mac OS X. It does NOT give you access to Bonjour-connected devices, however. Also, the ports you need to configure conflict with iCloud. If you are not using iCloud, then this free (donation-ware) application might provide the access you want. MIGHT.

<http://netputing.com/vpn-activator/>

Daly

On Jul 2, 2012, at 5:40 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:

> Yeah, if I can't do Back to my Mac, I was thinking something along the lines of Timbuktu or VPN, but I want to try it will Apple free software first.
>
> The Drobo is 2TB of stuff. I will be traveling for long stretches at a time and this is for back up to what I am bringing with me.
>
> I don't trust in the cloud, so that is not an option.
>
> Brent
>
>
> On Jul 2, 2012, at 5:18 PM, Daly Jessup wrote:
>
>
> On Jul 2, 2012, at 11:26 AM, N.A. Nada wrote:
>
>> I may be traveling for work, again, and I want to be able to connect to my Drobo at home.
>>
>> I realize I may need to leave a Mac on to do this. The Drobo is not a model that directly allows this. The only thing that I have found was Back to my Mac, but with MobileMe gone, and my G4 Quicksilver not capable of running higher than 10.5.8, I don't see how.
>>
>> I will be traveling with my MBP currently running 10.7.4. The current information from Apple is to use iCloud, but the G4 with 10.5.8 does not have a Sys Pref for iCloud to set it up.
>>
>> I would prefer to use Apple software to accomplish this. As a last resort I will consider third party software, but right now I am on a tight budget.
>
> Some years ago, I used to reach my home computer using VPN. I had some shareware VPN server and client that worked perfectly for me. I also used to FTP to my home computer (sadly, I haven't been able to get that working at present). At any rate, if you can figure out how to do it, VPN could be a viable option for you.
>
> Otherwise, if you don't need access to the entire Drobo but just to certain key files, you could consider Dropbox, which is free.
>
> Daly
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Mon Jul 2, 2012 10:54 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "N.A. Nada"
Thanks Daly.

I'll check it out, but as I stated the stay at home Mac is a G4 that can not do iCloud and the current Back to my Mac.

On Jul 2, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Daly Jessup wrote:

I did find an application called VPN Activator that says it activates VPN capabilities that are already built into Mac OS X. It does NOT give you access to Bonjour-connected devices, however. Also, the ports you need to configure conflict with iCloud. If you are not using iCloud, then this free (donation-ware) application might provide the access you want. MIGHT.

<http://netputing.com/vpn-activator/>

Daly

On Jul 2, 2012, at 5:40 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:

> Yeah, if I can't do Back to my Mac, I was thinking something along the lines of Timbuktu or VPN, but I want to try it will Apple free software first.
>
> The Drobo is 2TB of stuff. I will be traveling for long stretches at a time and this is for back up to what I am bringing with me.
>
> I don't trust in the cloud, so that is not an option.
>
> Brent
>
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> On Jul 2, 2012, at 5:18 PM, Daly Jessup wrote:
>
>
> On Jul 2, 2012, at 11:26 AM, N.A. Nada wrote:
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>> I may be traveling for work, again, and I want to be able to connect to my Drobo at home.
>>
>> I realize I may need to leave a Mac on to do this. The Drobo is not a model that directly allows this. The only thing that I have found was Back to my Mac, but with MobileMe gone, and my G4 Quicksilver not capable of running higher than 10.5.8, I don't see how.
>>
>> I will be traveling with my MBP currently running 10.7.4. The current information from Apple is to use iCloud, but the G4 with 10.5.8 does not have a Sys Pref for iCloud to set it up.
>>
>> I would prefer to use Apple software to accomplish this. As a last resort I will consider third party software, but right now I am on a tight budget.
>
> Some years ago, I used to reach my home computer using VPN. I had some shareware VPN server and client that worked perfectly for me. I also used to FTP to my home computer (sadly, I haven't been able to get that working at present). At any rate, if you can figure out how to do it, VPN could be a viable option for you.
>
> Otherwise, if you don't need access to the entire Drobo but just to certain key files, you could consider Dropbox, which is free.
>
> Daly
>
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Tue Jul 3, 2012 3:27 am (PDT) . Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
Isn't VPN built-in to System Preferences > Network?

Otto

On 3 July 2012 03:18, Daly Jessup <jessup@san.rr.com> wrote:

> I did find an application called VPN Activator that says it activates VPN
> capabilities that are already built into Mac OS X. It does NOT give you
> access to Bonjour-connected devices, however. Also, the ports you need to
> configure conflict with iCloud. If you are not using iCloud, then this free
> (donation-ware) application might provide the access you want. MIGHT.
>
> <http://netputing.com/vpn-activator/>
>

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Tue Jul 3, 2012 5:31 am (PDT) . Posted by: "Daly Jessup" dalyjessup
Then that's good, because iCloud is the problem. If you don't have iCloud then the ports it uses are free, and you should be able to set up the VPN Activator.

Daly

On Jul 2, 2012, at 10:54 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:

> Thanks Daly.
>
> I'll check it out, but as I stated the stay at home Mac is a G4 that can not do iCloud and the current Back to my Mac.
>
>
> On Jul 2, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Daly Jessup wrote:
>
> I did find an application called VPN Activator that says it activates VPN capabilities that are already built into Mac OS X. It does NOT give you access to Bonjour-connected devices, however. Also, the ports you need to configure conflict with iCloud. If you are not using iCloud, then this free (donation-ware) application might provide the access you want. MIGHT.
>
> <http://netputing.com/vpn-activator/>

Tue Jul 3, 2012 5:32 am (PDT) . Posted by: "Daly Jessup" dalyjessup

On Jul 3, 2012, at 3:27 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:

> Isn't VPN built-in to System Preferences > Network?
>
> Otto

If it is, I sure don't see it.

Daly

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3.4 GHz Intel Core i7, 8 GB RAM, 27" screen, OS X 10.7.3,
AMD Radeon HD 6970M video, wired Apple mouse and keyboard. Partition: GUID Partition Table on 2 TB internal.

Mon Jul 2, 2012 12:17 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "Oneal Neumann" newalander

On 2012 June 20 (at 19:23) Mr X wrote:

> I am using MBP, about 3 years old, with Lion 10.7.4.
>
> ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
>
> My question is, do I have double copies of everything? Can I safely delete most of the items under this last set of headings and still keep my mail that I have under the first two categories (Mailboxes and On My Mac).
>
> Azim Teddybear
>

You only have double copies if you actively copied certain emails. Mail does not copy unless instructed to do so. [Mail > Message > Copy To] Emails placed in folders remain single.

Go to Home Folder > Library > Mail > Mailboxes. There you will find two types of folders: a blue one looking like every other folder you have; the other an icon resembling a 'inbox'.

Your emails will be contained in the latter folders. Check your Messages folders, which will contain sundry .emlx files that are stored numerically (eg: 13645.emlx, 13710.emlx, etc). The higher the numeral, the more recent the email in that folder.

I only recently noticed this post and I did not see any responses to it. Not sure if you already have your answer. Hope this helps, Azim.

Oneal
(formerly from Ontario,
now habiting Budapest)

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Mon Jul 2, 2012 12:45 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "bobbystar" bobbystar

Just by coincidence last Friday I bought an iPhone car charger that also claims to do iPads and iPods. It is rated a 10 watts the brand is Superior Communications. I bought it locally at a cell phone accessory store called Xessory in Delaware County, PA.

then i stopped at my VW dealer and traded my Jetta for a 2012 model. This Jetta has a iPhone cord in the glove box that will charge the phone besides connecting to the radio. (It also has blue tooth connectivity for the iPhone.

So buy a car charger for about $18 or buy a VW.

Bobby

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Denver Dan <denver.dan@...> wrote:
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> During emergency here I recharged my iPhone with a UPS battery box. It also worked to recharge the iPad. This is another good reason to have a UPS in your house and perhaps a reminder to get one with a bigger battery than you think you need just for the computer.
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> Also recharged iPhone in my car.
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> Was not able to recharge iPad in car with same charger as for iPhone so I need to look into that possibility.
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> Any suggestions for a car charger device for iPad for a car?
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Mon Jul 2, 2012 12:52 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "Oneal Neumann" newalander

On 2012 June 13 (at 08:52) Randy B Singer wrote:

> Restore color sidebar icons in Finder using:
>
> SideEffects (free)
> http://macmatrix.blogspot.com/p/sideeffects.html
>
> Randy B Singer
>

I checked the link, Randy, and I noticed (on the SideEffects webpage) that the Finder-folder representations have icons/text twice the size of what I�ve got.

I checked Finder Help, however there is nothing that tells how to vary font/icon sizes. I�ve tried to resolve this before, however nothing was suggested.

Thanx. Oneal

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Mon Jul 2, 2012 12:56 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
>> Restore color sidebar icons in Finder using:
>> SideEffects (free)
>
> I checked the link, Randy, and I noticed (on the SideEffects webpage) that the Finder-folder representations have icons/text twice the size of what I�ve got.
>
> I checked Finder Help, however there is nothing that tells how to vary font/icon sizes. I�ve tried to resolve this before, however nothing was suggested.

System Preferences -- General -- "Sidebar Icon Size"

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Mon Jul 2, 2012 1:11 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "Oneal Neumann" newalander

On 2012 July 2 , at 21:56, Jim Saklad wrote:

>>> Restore color sidebar icons in Finder using:
>>> SideEffects (free)
>>
>> I checked the link, Randy, and I noticed (on the SideEffects webpage) that the Finder-folder representations have icons/text twice the size of what I have.
>>
>> I checked Finder Help, however there is nothing that tells how to vary icon/font sizes. I have tried to resolve this before, however nothing was suggested.
>
>
> System Preferences -- General -- "Sidebar Icon Size"
>
> Jim Saklad

Thanx for the quick getback, Jim.

I run 10.6.8 and there is no General section in Systems Preferences.

There is an Appearance section, however nothing about changing sizes.

Neither does Finder > Preferences > Sidebar have anything I can use.

Oneal

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Mon Jul 2, 2012 1:27 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "dellis70@tampabay.rr.com" dellis551
Our wireless router died, so my husband rewired the house to accommodate wired service. Both computers are now internet capable using ethernet cables. But we need a WIRED router so that both computers can be on-line simultaneously. If possible, we prefer not spending high dollars on this. This is a temporary fix, and we only want the router in case our wireless router bites the dust again. Which router do you recommend? We're trying for the latest technology, so that it will be able to run multiple wired devices if we found ourselves wireless again.

(We borrowed a linksys 10/100 NH1005 but it does not have the capability of keeping both iMacs on-line at the same time). After searching on-line forums, we discovered this technology is not sufficient.

We are running 2 intel iMacs (one is 12 months old, the other is 20 months old) with X.6.8. They are about 60' apart. Thanks for your help in advance.
Donna

Mon Jul 2, 2012 2:24 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
>>>> Restore color sidebar icons in Finder using:
>>>> SideEffects (free)
>>>
>>> I checked the link, Randy, and I noticed (on the SideEffects webpage) that the Finder-folder representations have icons/text twice the size of what I have.
>>>
>>> I checked Finder Help, however there is nothing that tells how to vary icon/font sizes. I have tried to resolve this before, however nothing was suggested.
>>
>> System Preferences -- General -- "Sidebar Icon Size"
>
> Thanx for the quick getback, Jim.
> I run 10.6.8 and there is no General section in Systems Preferences.

Silly me.
I assumed since you were replying to something (restoring sidebar icon color) that is a Lion issue, that you were running Lion....

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Mon Jul 2, 2012 2:48 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.

I think, Donna, you have got some confused or mixed terms going on.

The Linksys 10/100 NH1005 Hub is not the problem plus it is not a
router. The Linksys 10/100 NH1005 Hub can have up to 5 computers
connected to each other and to a router. The router would provide the
connection to the Internet and let all devices connected to the Hub use
the Internet.

You have to connect the Linksys 10/100 NH1005 to a router device and
that router device is then connected to the internet.

The problem with the Linksys 10/100 NH1005 Hub is that it is an
Ethernet "Hub" and isn't an Ethernet "Switch," (and it's not a router
at all). Plus it has the two Ethernet speeds of 10 and 100 BaseT (slow
and medium speed) but you should get an Ethernet Switch with 10 / 100 /
and 1000 speed Ethernet since both of your Macs of the ability to move
data at 10 / 100 / and 1000 speeds.

There is a difference in how an Ethernet Switch and an Ethernet Hub
work and the Switch is the better device.

You should look for a type of router that is a combination of devices.
The problem is that there are hundreds and hundreds of these on the
market so you have to do a little investigating to figure out what to
get.

You need to determine also how the router will connect to your internet
service. Is it via a cable TV company coaxial cable (the round black
cable), is it via a DSL link over a standard telephone line? is it
something else?

Here is an example of a combination router. It's like a 3-in-1 package
sort or thing.

At Amazon.com, look at the

Cisco-Linksys WRT310N Wireless-N Gigabit Router

New price is $38.99 USD and they have a lower refurbished price model
also.

This router has:

1. A Coaxial / Cable plug for cable Internet connection and a port for
DSL Internet connection (via a DSL phone line). Note that cable would
be significantly faster.

2. WiFi (antenna and wireless network).

3. Four Ethernet Gigabit ports (Gigabit means the 1000 speed Ethernet,
but also does 100 and 10 speed).

I'm just using this item as an example and many other companies make
similar routers.

With this or a similar 3-in-1 type of router, you would not need the
Linksys 10/100 NH1005 Hub.

With this or a similar device, you could use the wired Ethernet ports
and you could also use the WiFi wireless. For example, if you got an
iPhone or iPad or other WiFi device, it could use the WiFi while your
computers still used the wired Ethernet.

Hope that makes some sense. This router stuff is complex sounding when
you first tackle it but oddly it is pretty simple to set up and use.
Don't be dismayed!!

Good luck.

Denver Dan

On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 16:27:54 -0400, dellis70@tampabay.rr.com wrote:
> Our wireless router died, so my husband rewired the house to
> accommodate wired service. Both computers are now internet capable
> using ethernet cables. But we need a WIRED router so that both
> computers can be on-line simultaneously. If possible, we prefer not
> spending high dollars on this. This is a temporary fix, and we only
> want the router in case our wireless router bites the dust again.
> Which router do you recommend? We're trying for the latest
> technology, so that it will be able to run multiple wired devices if
> we found ourselves wireless again.
>
> (We borrowed a linksys 10/100 NH1005 but it does not have the
> capability of keeping both iMacs on-line at the same time). After
> searching on-line forums, we discovered this technology is not
> sufficient.
>
> We are running 2 intel iMacs (one is 12 months old, the other is 20
> months old) with X.6.8. They are about 60' apart. Thanks for your
> help in advance.
> Donna

Mon Jul 2, 2012 4:34 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
To add to Dan's reply, what sort of wireless router was it? One without a
built-in ethernet switch? This would be very unusual. Did the router die or
just the wireless function?

Otto

On 2 July 2012 21:27, <dellis70@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

> Our wireless router died, so my husband rewired the house to accommodate
> wired service. Both computers are now internet capable using ethernet
> cables. But we need a WIRED router so that both computers can be on-line
> simultaneously. If possible, we prefer not spending high dollars on this.
> This is a temporary fix, and we only want the router in case our wireless
> router bites the dust again. Which router do you recommend? We're trying
> for the latest technology, so that it will be able to run multiple wired
> devices if we found ourselves wireless again.
>
> (We borrowed a linksys 10/100 NH1005 but it does not have the capability
> of keeping both iMacs on-line at the same time). After searching on-line
> forums, we discovered this technology is not sufficient.
>
> We are running 2 intel iMacs (one is 12 months old, the other is 20 months
> old) with X.6.8. They are about 60' apart. Thanks for your help in advance.
> Donna
>

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Mon Jul 2, 2012 10:33 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "Oneal Neumann" newalander

On 2012 July 2 (at 23:24) Jim Saklad wrote:

>>> System Preferences -- General -- "Sidebar Icon Size"
>>>
>>
>> I run 10.6.8 and there is no General section in Systems Preferences.
>
> Silly me.
> I assumed since you were replying to something (restoring sidebar
> icon color) that is a Lion issue, that you were running Lion ...
>
> Jim Saklad
>

Silly me, Jim, for presuming that the Finder-sidebar-font/icon size could be adjusted anywhere other than Lion. Thanx again for the quick getback and for the update.

Oneal

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Tue Jul 3, 2012 5:16 am (PDT) . Posted by: "Daly Jessup" dalyjessup
Hi, until Lion (or some update of Lion) I was using a little app called "Startup Sound Pref Pane" to mute the startup chime on my computer.

This is important to me because I get up very early in the morning and other people are sleeping.

It has stopped working. I can't find an update for it or an alternative. I see that there is another called Startup Chime Stopper, but it doesn't work for me, either.

Does anyone know an app or a Terminal command that would mute the Startup chime in Lion?

Daly

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